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makuri 26th Sep '07 Wed, 15:14 i'm trying to prove this theory on people specifically young ones joining different Greek/Latin-letter organizations.I'm not really sure if i'm on the right category but anyway, why (do they) join? what exactly is hazing? (dictionaries are too technical..i need something personal.:beat:)
i need enough information to get me through this..Thanks!
KONOG 26th Sep '07 Wed, 22:09 hazing para sa akin
hazing is a kind of violent act that is used in fraternity initiation
o sa madaling salita pagtorture o pagpapahirap sa isang balak sumali sa isang fraternity para daw mapatunayan na ang pagiging loyal niya sa fraternity na iyon
pero against ako sa hazing, hindi naman sa sakit lang mapapatunayan ang pagiging loyal ng isang tao
hehe parang sadist at masochist
kizzmark20 27th Sep '07 Thu, 02:48 walang magsasabi sayo sumali ka ng malaman mo :) kahit sino sa ka brod o sino naman kasapi ng samahan ay walang mag sasalita at mag bibigay impormasyon kung ano at paano !!!! hope u get it ;)
jet_23 27th Sep '07 Thu, 03:36 May Hazing para daw maging loyal mga members.... kalokohan!
nathan_christopher 27th Sep '07 Thu, 12:15 May Hazing para daw maging loyal mga members.... kalokohan!
:lol: not that simple kuya.....:lol:
jcl17 27th Sep '07 Thu, 20:08 ang frat ok , kasi marami kang makikilala at magiging kaibigan , kaso pag-away nila away mo rin , yun ang problema dyan sa frat , ok lng sana kung walang madadamay , at saka pwede bang sumali ka dyan sa frat ( i mean yung kilala ) ng walang hazing hindi nmn pwede , kya nmn yung iba ay namamatay sa hazing kasi , hinahaluaan nila ng inom , drug or what ever , kaya nagiging grabi ang resulta , ang mabuti pa wag ka na lng sumali dyan , at tandaan na lng natin d tyo pinapalo ng mga magulang natin ng ganun , at makisama ka na lng.....
billabong 27th Sep '07 Thu, 20:19 ang frat ok , kasi marami kang makikilala at magiging kaibigan , kaso pag-away nila away mo rin , yun ang problema dyan sa frat , ok lng sana kung walang madadamay , at saka pwede bang sumali ka dyan sa frat ( i mean yung kilala ) ng walang hazing hindi nmn pwede , kya nmn yung iba ay namamatay sa hazing kasi , hinahaluaan nila ng inom , drug or what ever , kaya nagiging grabi ang resulta , ang mabuti pa wag ka na lng sumali dyan , at tandaan na lng natin d tyo pinapalo ng mga magulang natin ng ganun , at makisama ka na lng.....
pare koy depende naman yan sa pinipili mong frat.. eh kung ikaw naman pipili ka ng organisasyon na sasalihan mo piliin mo ang org na sa tingin mo mga educado ang miyembro dahil hindi naman lahat ay pinipwersa para sumasali sa frat... Huwag ganun ang tingnan niyo... kung meron kayong nakikitang mga pagkakamali sa bawat org siguro hindi naman lahat parepareho... Maiintindihan mo yan kung me sinalihan kang org..
billabong 27th Sep '07 Thu, 20:21 May Hazing para daw maging loyal mga members.... kalokohan!
maiintindihan mo yan kung sasali ka sa isang org... for now wag po tayo makialam dahil kanya kanyang descarte to :)
Earl 27th Sep '07 Thu, 20:29 hai jus ko!!
ano ba yan! sana kung di na kaya ng tao yng initiation na yan...
sana itigil na sana ang ritual... survive na dpat yn!! :ranting:
angie314 29th Sep '07 Sat, 10:24 if hindi na kaya nang tao ang initiation so quit nalang xa..hehe..pero sabi nang bf ko if you quit,patay kang bata ka..tsk3
black_sapphire 29th Sep '07 Sat, 11:08 for me di nman kelangan ng hazing na yan sa 1 org.. diba twagan nila brothers & sisters and sabi nila dey care for ich other e bat kelangan nila saktan db? against tlga ko dun kasi di nman tlga tama.. i asked dem bakit kelangan nun sabi nila tradition na kasi daw un na ewan din nila kung cnu ngpasimula.. super hirap tlaga mapasali sa 1 frat kasi sabi nga kaaway ng 1 kaaway ng lahat lalu na pag nakaaway nyo may frat din sobrang gulo.. kahit la ka ginagwang masama gugulpihin ka.. for those who wants to join a fraternity/sorority think a million tyms bka kasi magcc kau.. un lang.. hehe..
Earl 29th Sep '07 Sat, 11:17 for me di nman kelangan ng hazing na yan sa 1 org.. diba twagan nila brothers & sisters and sabi nila dey care for ich other e bat kelangan nila saktan db? against tlga ko dun kasi di nman tlga tama.. i asked dem bakit kelangan nun sabi nila tradition na kasi daw un na ewan din nila kung cnu ngpasimula.. super hirap tlaga mapasali sa 1 frat kasi sabi nga kaaway ng 1 kaaway ng lahat lalu na pag nakaaway nyo may frat din sobrang gulo.. kahit la ka ginagwang masama gugulpihin ka.. for those who wants to join a fraternity/sorority think a million tyms bka kasi magcc kau.. un lang.. hehe..
yah tama... besides, we can find friends w/o frat.... hnap ka nlng ng barkada... di kpa msasaktan.... la pang gulo.. :salute:
angie314 29th Sep '07 Sat, 11:24 tumpak!hehe..pero meron namang frat na walang hazing..grabe nga lang ang initiation...kawawa naman ang mga neophytes :(
jpkionic 29th Sep '07 Sat, 11:56 LAYMEN would understand the meaning of INITIATION only after they have experienced it themselves.
HAZING is another word. HAZING = purposeless, pointless, meaningless; whereas INITIATION connotes the opposite. Everything that is being done in the frat has its purpose, has its meaning and has its definite goal. You'll know once you become a FRATMAN...
jason12e 29th Sep '07 Sat, 12:39 Ang nakalulungkot isipin, pinapa-undergo nila ng hazing ang isang tao para ma-prove na ka-brod talaga siya.
Pero kapag namatay naman yung member dahil sa hazing, sasabihin nila, hindi nila kakilala or hindi sumali sa kanila yung taong yun.
Ganun ba ang tunay na pagmamahal sa mga magkakapatid/magkaka-brod?
Ayoko yata nang ganun. :(
Earl 29th Sep '07 Sat, 12:57 LAYMEN would understand the meaning of INITIATION only after they have experienced it themselves.
HAZING is another word. HAZING = purposeless, pointless, meaningless; whereas INITIATION connotes the opposite. Everything that is being done in the frat has its purpose, has its meaning and has its definite goal. You'll know once you become a FRATMAN...
bkt? ano pla ang initiation??
hitting the person with love??:noidea: and care??:noidea:
whoa! hmm.. i doubt it pare... :peace:
mysticross 29th Sep '07 Sat, 18:46 hmm for me since alam mo nman ang papasukin mo, kung sa tingin mo ndi mo nman kaya un initiation, wag mo na ituloy... kita mo un mga napuruhan, kawawa ang mga mgulang eh kun tutuusin nman ndi nman kasalanan ng frat un kc may mga sumasali eh... actually ksi, ang fraternity at sorrority eh may mga advantages at disadvantages din... kya dapat kung gusto mo sumali, think first ayt?
angie314 29th Sep '07 Sat, 20:51 if possible..think a thousand times :) pumili karin nang frat na walang history nang hazing..lol hehe
Earl 29th Sep '07 Sat, 20:54 if possible..think a thousand times :) pumili karin nang frat na walang history nang hazing..lol hehe
hmmm... i doubt it... i think lahat ng frat may hazing tlga...
and kung mron man.. hai.. ewan.. hehe :slap:
angie314 29th Sep '07 Sat, 21:02 my bf has a frat..he's active pa nga eh...sabi nya wala naman daw hazing sa kanila..i dont know if he's telling the truth..hehe :giggle:
Earl 29th Sep '07 Sat, 21:09 my bf has a frat..he's active pa nga eh...sabi nya wala naman daw hazing sa kanila..i dont know if he's telling the truth..hehe :giggle:
hmmm.. i think meron yn...
kc, khit gang nga may initiation eh, ang liit lng ng gang...
how much more kung frat...
angie314 29th Sep '07 Sat, 21:14 baka nga..hehe bet he was trying to protect the frat's name..brod pa naman sila nang pinsan ko..hehe buti nalang di ko siya pinapasama if merong initiation..hehe
Earl 29th Sep '07 Sat, 21:16 baka nga..hehe bet he was trying to protect the frat's name..brod pa naman sila nang pinsan ko..hehe buti nalang di ko siya pinapasama if merong initiation..hehe
ano pla frat ng bf mo angie?
angie314 29th Sep '07 Sat, 21:19 i forgot the name..something to do with sigma and upsilon!ahaha whatever!!!:giggle: familiar?
Earl 29th Sep '07 Sat, 21:21 i forgot the name..something to do with sigma and upsilon!ahaha whatever!!!:giggle: familiar?
hmmm... mrami kc sigma and upsilon eh..
ahihi... :lol:
angie314 29th Sep '07 Sat, 21:22 ganun bah?hehe i think dito sa cagayan de oro ang pinaka malaking chapter nila...hehe
KONOG 2nd Oct '07 Tue, 18:55 pag namatay ka pala sa hazing ibig sabihin hindi ka loyal sa fraternity...
bakit kailangan pa klasing magkasakitan
ngayon yung sigma rho hindi makasagot sa mga accusations sa kanila, nassan ang pride ng fraternity sa mga nangyari?
patay_ako 2nd Oct '07 Tue, 21:48 tulad nang sinabi noong iba hindi mo malalaman kung ano yung porpuse ng hazing/initiation kung hindi ka sasali or kasali and besides d ba before ka sasama ng isang frat eh me idea ka kung anong kelangan para makasali ka sa kanila? kung ayaw mo ng ganun eh doon ka sa iba diba?
and its not a matter of loyalty but rather it is a matter of determination kasi sa experience ko pag madaling makapasok sa isang frat or org eh ang org na yun d tumatagal
i think ang mekasalan doon sa namamatayan eh hindi yung org/frat kung hindi yung nag organize ng rites yung sa iba nga eh me bantay na medical help (walang check-up kung kaya nila physically) cgro kaya namatay yon d maganda ang pag kaka organize kung baga eh nag kanya kanya cla sa dami dami ng sumali eh bat sya lang?
sh|n|gam| 3rd Oct '07 Wed, 01:36 This is only my point of view.
Why do people especially the young ones join fraterneties?
The first and foremost reason is curiousity. They want to know what goes on inside that elite brotherhood. They want to know the secrets. They want to "belong".
Other reasons include "trip lang", kasali kuya/tatay/uncle ko kaya sumali na rin ako, mabibigyan daw ako ng proteksyon, etc. Thos kind of things.
What is hazing?
Hazing is a ritual done to pledgees (neophytes) for them to be able to ascend to a status of a "brother". Usually its physical but some fraternities includes "mental" hazing.
Bonds of friendship and camaraderie is usually forged by similar experiences and hardships. And maybe hazing is the only way that they can forge this bond in the shortest time possible. Pare-pareho nilang pinagdaanan e.
This is my experience.
I can still remember it clearly. It was one of my highschool days, someone approached me and then asked me if I would like to join this certain fraternity. I told him, I'll give you the answer in a few days. Hell, I dont need protection, coz I didnt piss anybody. I didnt need companionship, I have alot of friends. But after a few days, I said yes. And the only reason is that I was curious. I endured through weeks of being a neophyte. It was a humbling experience to be honest. Painting sidewalks gutters and public trashcans, tutoring someone, running errands...the works. Hazing came and Im telling you, it hurt like hell.
While I was going through all that, I was analyzing how this fraternity works, what are its goals and means. When I became a member, I bacame active in our activities. I never stopped being active until I became grand chancellor of our chapter. When that happened, we changed a few minor things. We focused more on the quality of the members, not quantity. We stopped accepting voluntary applicants. We became a recruit-based only. We checked family backgrounds and grades first. We need brains not muscles. We focused more on community based projects and services, like painting vandalized walls, outreach programs and such. We reached out to other frats out there to form some kind of a peace treaty and it worked well. Our chapter has at least 200 members and we are not afraid of rumbles and riots, but our neighborhood can do without one. Its already a chaotic world, why add to the mayhem? I planned to rewrite a whole new meaning to the word "fraternity". So that when someone hears the word, it would not be terrifying but it would instill a memory of a group of young men who tried to do good and make a difference in spite of opposing forces in or around them.
Well that was a few good years ago, when I was in 4th year higschool. Other sucessors have come and gone and they all did the same. At least we made a difference even if its only in our chapter.
An ounce of loyalty is worth a pound of cleverness.
Leadership. Friendship. Service.
19jave32 23rd Oct '07 Tue, 14:24 haha..husay kayo kay billabong, APO yan..hehe..(sa avatar)
panoodin nyo ung KEKA..movie un ni katya santos, tungkol sa frat ang tema.. mganda ang tema pero bulok ang pagkakadirek..:p
Mga Posibleng Dahilan Kung Bkit Sumasali ang Tao sa Frat:
1. curiousity..gaya ng nangyari kay chris mendez..matinong tao pero dahil gusto nya malaman ang nara2nasan ng nasali sa frat, ayun sumali sya..lambutin (sa pic ko lang nkita) kaya ayun di kinaya ang hazing..:pray:
2. walang magawa..minsan may mga taong walang mgawa, ang natripan e ang pagsali sa frat..
3. naghahanap ng sakit ng katawan..may mga tao nman gusto msaktan kaya nagpapabugbog sa members ng frat..:lmao:
4. naghahanap ng kakampi sa away..may mga tao nman na para mkganti sa kaaway e nasali sa frat para mgkaroon ng kakampi..
5. gusto ng adventure..hehe..pagsali sa frat adventure? :rofl:
FRAT NA WALANG KWENTA ANG GINAGAWA: ung mga members ng college f*ck fest! :chair: :hit:
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EDIT: shin nu ibig mo sabihin dun sa mental hazing? pinapagawa ng homework ang mga neo? nu nga pala frat mo? ok ah..:salute:
sh|n|gam| 23rd Oct '07 Tue, 16:46 FRAT NA WALANG KWENTA ANG GINAGAWA: ung mga members ng college f*ck fest! :chair: :hit:
Hindi a! Tingnan mo to... Ayus naman mga ginagawa nila e...
http://www.symbianize.com/showthread.php?t=15895
EDIT: shin nu ibig mo sabihin dun sa mental hazing? pinapagawa ng homework ang mga neo? nu nga pala frat mo? ok ah..:salute:
Yung mga hazing na kung ano2 ipapagawa sayo na nakakapraning. Pinaluluhod sa gitna ng pedestrian lane, pabibilhin ka ng kung ano2 pero piso lang ibibigay sayo, bibigyan ka ng buong sabon tapos kelangan mo maubos sa paghugas ng kamay....mga ganun. :D
19jave32 24th Oct '07 Wed, 16:24 ayos ba un nagawa ng sex video? :lol: sa bagay para may mpanood ang mga :naughty:..hehe..pero kung ihahambing sa ginagawa ng pinoy frats na mti2no, wlang kwenta ung sa knila..mga activities ng kilala ko npunta cla sa bahay ampunan tapos nag-do2nate ng goods, damit, bigas, etc.tapos meron naglinis ng brgy nila..nagpapaliga din sa bsketbol..:D
yapanitz 24th Oct '07 Wed, 16:53 kabayang jave,kaw b me frat??
frating gutom?? :rofl:
kurabo 4th Nov '07 Sun, 23:50 in my ipinion madaling magsalita n wlang kwenta ang frat at
puro sakitan lang.. mdalaing magsalita sa mga hndi naiintindhan
kung ano b talga meron ang frat.. apti ung sinasabi nyong
away well it dpends kung anong klaseng frat yan.. pero sa f
frat ko okei nman sya minsan nga kami nlng hinahabol pero
iwas gulo pa rin kami.. kasi wlaa ka namang mapapala pag
pinatulan mo eh.
jayadrian13 5th Nov '07 Mon, 05:43 hindi lahat ng frat e masama o puro away lng ang hanap. totoo n pag sinabi mo n frat away o gulo agad ang papasok sa mga kokote nio mali un. may ibang mga frat n talagang samahan lang.yun nga lang most frat na ganito e hindi masyado kilala. heheheheheehehe
migz 7th Nov '07 Wed, 19:29 Depende po talaga kung what Fraternity ka kasali, kung sa palaging napapawaay ka mapupunta, kahit ga'no ka kabait, idadamay at idadamayka parin ng mga nakalaban ng iyong grupo.. Parang ang ibang fraternty ngaun, gulo lang hinahanap, bakit walang peace talk???
Bakit hindi na lang daanin sa pagtulong sa mga nangangailangan ng tulong ang iyong responsibilidad sa pagpasok sa isang Organisasyon?
Pagkakapatiran, pagtutulungan ng bawat isa sa inyong grupo..
whodoes16 7th Nov '07 Wed, 20:58 ang fraternity o hazing sa kin ay isang kapatiran..
jayadrian13 9th Nov '07 Fri, 06:32 madami ako kakilala sa mga frat pero isa lng gst ko sa kanila hindi tlg away ang hanap nila tahimik at more on activities at academic sila makikipag away lng sila pag sila ang nakanti hehehehehe pero kahit n away sila 1 tym n away lng ung tipong tapos ang prob agad. d ko n mention frat kilala kc e hehehehe
wella1407 10th Nov '07 Sat, 13:21 i'm trying to prove this theory on people specifically young ones joining different Greek/Latin-letter organizations.I'm not really sure if i'm on the right category but anyway, why (do they) join? what exactly is hazing? (dictionaries are too technical..i need something personal.:beat:)
i need enough information to get me through this..Thanks!
the urge to join frats may arise from different reasons.. pwedeng naaya lng ng barkada, it could be due to someone's need to belong to a certain group. madami n din ngsasabi n it's some sort of self attainment. some go for connections. yong iba nmn they happen to get interested with the org's activities or projects. and some because of curiosity. ok saken yong mga frats pero d ako agree sa hazing.;)
arjay 10th Nov '07 Sat, 20:23 kalokohan lng yan :giggle:.. kc alm natin pag sumasli ka sa isang fraternity isang loyal instituition yun eh.. ang iba namn pag may mga problema tinutulngan.. because of threre responsiblities as a loyal member of the fraternity.. may iba kc na coz of died.. kc sa mag palo na natatangap nila.. why they did do that kind of obligation? dahil jan masususbok kung gaano ka trust sa sarili mo kung papasok ka sa gnyang organization.. :lol: :lol:
juanpablo 11th Nov '07 Sun, 10:42 initiation rites or rituals...!
lahat naman cguro ng mga organization may mga rites...!
kakaiba nga lang ang frat...!
HAZING...!
pero mas wokie ung hazing...!
para ma sort out ung mga hindi tlga bagay sa organization...!:)
yodod 19th Nov '07 Mon, 19:52 tama ka jan..
sharingan_nirvana999 19th Nov '07 Mon, 19:58 oo nga tama ka nga dun:gigle:
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