is it possible for a GPRS connection to achieve 15x faster than dial-up?

there is a cellphone repair shop here in our place installing instant internet - modem over bluetooth link - to laptop/pc.

from their flyer,
they are offering the following speed:
115 KBPS
230KBPS
420 KBPS
920 KBPS

as far as i know the speed written in their flyer
is the speed in "kbps" you select when you are
creating a dial-up networking connection.

the owner said that there is a bluetooth that gives
out 920KBPS and that 920KBPS they install is to
paid for by 8kPhp.

is there a tweak for the usb bluetooth dongel to give
higher speed? the owner is crazy telling me that it
gives as high as 920 KBPS thru GPRS and you can
use it for broadband?

GPRS signal burst can reach up to 107kbps and the
regular speed maximum is 40kbps.

Can you give me light to my question in the first line? Thanx.

are you selling or promoting or giving sudgestion or giving us a trick..

im not giving a trick or selling or anything, i am asking if the speed is possible.
- i want an answer not a question.

May I know kung saan ang ISP or kung saan nanggagaling ang internet connection nila? Kung GPRS kasi, magmumula lang sa mga cellsites yan. If we're also talking about speed, GPRS in theory gives out about 171 kbps max at hindi pa kasama dun yung latency so mas mabagal pa dun.

Hindi kaya 3G dapat yung minention nila dun? although hindi pa "officially" regulated ang 3g, kelangan munang dumaan yan sa NTC para makakuha ng lisensya dun.

Sana scan mo yung flyer nila at post mo dito nang matingnan natin. ;)

its impossible. only 3G technology can attain such speed.

im not giving a trick or selling or anything, i am asking if the speed is possible.
- i want an answer not a question.

hehehe oo nga no...tao lang
no you cant mabagal ang GPRS natin dito sa pinas brah..

Yes you can manually set the speed of your modem.. from 1.2 kbps - 921.6 kbps pero defaul speed is 115.2 kbps pero it doesnt mean pag inadjust mo yung speed ng modem mo ay bibilis narin browsing mo.. Speed is always depends on your network and your phone.

Kung mahahack or makokontrol nila yung provide speed ng network ng globe or smart via GPRS (mahirap to) and yung built-in modem ng phone ay mapapalitan nila (posible) dun maniniwala ako na maachieve mo yung 15x faster than dial-up kahit gprs lang gamit mo. Tungkol naman sa bluetooth baka nga meron ng speed na ganun ngaun pero di ako sure.

Base from what i experienced GPRS is like a dial-up the speed is falling from 20 - 65 kbps normal speed and to 115 kbps maximum speed. 3G is much faster and the speed is falling from 128 - 364 kbps normal speed and to 512 - 1mbps maximum speed.

Usually ang na aachieve kong speed is yung normal speed lang.

May I know kung saan ang ISP or kung saan nanggagaling ang internet connection nila? Kung GPRS kasi, magmumula lang sa mga cellsites yan. If we're also talking about speed, GPRS in theory gives out about 171 kbps max at hindi pa kasama dun yung latency so mas mabagal pa dun.

Hindi kaya 3G dapat yung minention nila dun? although hindi pa "officially" regulated ang 3g, kelangan munang dumaan yan sa NTC para makakuha ng lisensya dun.

Sana scan mo yung flyer nila at post mo dito nang matingnan natin. ;)


The only possible connection naman dito sa atin sa pinas ng GPRS ay mula Globe/Smart/Sun.
At mula dun sa speed na mentioned (see image) on my first post - those are impossible to achieve without hacking the ISP to overclock its server.

here is the flyer:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/rainemeg/INSTANTINTERNET.jpg

from the speed available block
those are the speed that you set up in
the creation of dial-up networking connection.

This is how to manually adjust your modem speed. Sabi ko nga kahit palitan mo yan sa 920 kbps walang epekto. Yung speed provided parin ng isp mo maachieve mo. Base sa binigay kong speed yun lang ang maachieve mo actual speed kapag nag bandwidth test ka.

Censya na diko nadala bluetooth ko kaya IR lang ginamit ko. Sana
makatulong sa iba.:dance:

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd77/masikan/1.jpg

The only possible connection naman dito sa atin sa pinas ng GPRS ay mula Globe/Smart/Sun.
At mula dun sa speed na mentioned (see image) on my first post - those are impossible to achieve without hacking the ISP to overclock its server.

here is the flyer:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/rainemeg/INSTANTINTERNET.jpg

from the speed available block
those are the speed that you set up in
the creation of dial-up networking connection.

san mo nakuha yang promo nila..sa shop ba nila i set up o meron silang instruction..to do that..

i smell something fishy here. they never mentioned anything about the source to where the "supposed internet connection" is coming from. baka siguro ibebenta lang nila yung unit na supposedly eh magbibigay ng mga ganung connection speed tapos tatakbuhan ka na pag nabili mo. Kung ang claim ng nag-o-offer ng deal na yan e gagamit ka ng bluetooth, d pwedeng lumagpas yung connection mo sa 100 meters (class 1) or 10 meters (class 2, more common) from the source. So kung may malaking transmitter sila ng bluetooth signal (very unlikely, wala pa akong nakikitang ganun :lol:), e di dapat maraming mga ganun na nakatayo siguro sa location nyo. It's too good to be true ikanga. San ka pa nakakita na may offer na lifetime internet connection na walang monthly fee? :lol:

@mcmms
actually, sila ang gagawa dun sa shop nila. at wala daw ibang nakakaalam mag-setup
dun kundi yung may-ari lang dahil confidential daw. wala naman confidential sa mga
taong mahilig magkalikot sa kanilang computer. well, cant blame them for the
confidentiality, its business anyway.
ang actual speed naman ng connection is depending on the WAN area side. may mga
servers na mabibilis at may mga mababagal. at depende rin sa traffic.

ito ang speedtest ko sa DSL ko.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/188354587.png

kahit ganyan lang sana ang mapalabas ko with GPRS connection
masaya na ako, sa speed ko na yan, pwede na magVOIP while playing
online MMORPG.

Hi all! Bago lang po ako.

Anyway, na-intrigue ako sa post na ito, kasi I'm using an ISP at home at medyo hindi ako masaya.

But I don't think this works as it promises to.
Baka ang mangyari lang ay iinstallan ka ng software na pwedeng magchoose ng MAXIMUM speed na gusto mo. Pero kung ang network na gagamitin mo ay hindi naman makaabot sa maximum, baka masayang lang po ang pera sa pagpapa-install.

Ang GPRS EDGE at 3G ay parang mga kalsada.

kung eskenita ang secondary road ang GPRS, main road naman ang edge, at hiway ang 3G. Hindi po pwedeng tumakbo ng kahit anung bilis ang mga kotse (data/information) sa kalsada, kasi nali-limit sila ng laki nung kalsada.

Yun ay sa pagkakaintindi ko lang po. :)

here's something i found today:

hindi maintained ang text formatting dito kaya
read nyo na lang sa original site about GPRS Classification

http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml

hope this will help understand the confusion about GPRS speed data transmission.

Pakitanong nga sa kanya kung anong network gagamitin nya (GLOBE,SMART,SUN) sa paginstall ng internet.

For sure Globe yan at may FBT trick lang yan na gusto nyang gawing business.. Ako din kasi may FBT pero hindi ko ginagawang business pinamimigay ko lang sa mga kaibigan ko.

8k php?! holy sh**! for 920kbps? bka nmn scam lng yan, ung akin kc ibng country, pero pg s laptop ko nlgay 115kbps lng, pg desktop 460.8kbps, plgay ko ngddpend dn s pc..

hir is my internet conex using my 6630.. no kidding at wlng halong panggago mga pare ko ha..mdyo mbba lng tlga uploading.. btw this is my ip. 151.82.3.126

http://www.speedtest.net/result/188410584.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

baka nalito yung may ari?
baka ibig sabihin niya, internet ng pc to cp using bluetooth na galing sa pc then rerecieve cp at may instant internet na siya?

luma na ito method na ito pero hindi ko pa rin makuha..

pero yung sinasabi sa poster, para sa akin hindi pa kaya mangyari iyan..

depende kung tadtad nga ng hack iyan ayun puwede pa..
pero kung hack iyan diba dapat kalat na?

baka scam yan!! di ako naniniwala sa gprs na makakaabot ng ganyang speed. pwede mong iset yan. kahit 920kbps ang nakalagay sa PC mo pero ung speed nya is parang dial up parin.. nasa hardware kasi yan ng fone mo. check nyo to from WIKIPEDIA - General_Packet_Radio_Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5048/gprsco9.jpg

Pag 3G siguro maniniwala ako..:thumbsup:

hir is my internet conex using my 6630.. no kidding at wlng halong panggago mga pare ko ha..mdyo mbba lng tlga uploading.. btw this is my ip. 151.82.3.126

http://www.speedtest.net/result/188410584.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

anong yan IUNet? kasi pag
SUN - digitel,
SMART - PLDT,
GLOBE- Globelines

anong sim yang IUNET? ito na ba yung GPRS
15x faster?? sure ka fone gamit mo?
although merong possibility kasi 6630 is a 3g fone.

@mcmms
actually, sila ang gagawa dun sa shop nila. at wala daw ibang nakakaalam mag-setup
dun kundi yung may-ari lang dahil confidential daw. wala naman confidential sa mga
taong mahilig magkalikot sa kanilang computer. well, cant blame them for the
confidentiality, its business anyway.
ang actual speed naman ng connection is depending on the WAN area side. may mga
servers na mabibilis at may mga mababagal. at depende rin sa traffic.

ito ang speedtest ko sa DSL ko.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/188354587.png

kahit ganyan lang sana ang mapalabas ko with GPRS connection
masaya na ako, sa speed ko na yan, pwede na magVOIP while playing
online MMORPG.

ganun ba secreto hmmm? ano kaya secret baka naman openDNS sila kaya ganun..

kahit anung network ako magconnect sa internet via "modem over bluetooth link"
parehas lang ang speed throughput ng smart/globe @ 24kbps.
by the way dito ako sa pangasinan.

@ shadow_kill
kung 'yan ang speed mo sa GPRS connection mo,
para ka na ring nakaDSL sa speed na yan.

sa Pilipinas ba yan connection mo?
anong carrier ang ginagamit mo at umabot ka sa ganyan kataas na speed? yung IP addr mo parang hindi sa pinas yan.

@reinemeg
alam mo kasi may thread dito about open DNS to speed up your connection nung ginamit ko mas nag improb sya kaysa sa dati...kaya lang sa shenzen ang server..

WIND ITALY ung sim card ko,d2 kc ako italy.. ;) bale ngbbyad ako ng extra 20euro/month, pero limited lng cya s cost ng 8000euro costs of browsing,d ko p din kc mdetermine kng per hour ang deduction nung load o by kBytes.. via usb cable dn ung skin kya tlgang mblis, mbgal kc pg via bluetooth at IR. kumbaga s USB cable direct connection s pc, by Btooth and IR prng indirect lng..

@shadow_kill
nasa italy ka pala, mabilis dyan compared naman dito sa pinas.
natry ko na rin GPRS connection via USB, nagtest kami ng friend ko
SE K800i Globe SIM talagang mabagal nasa 24kbps lang ang data transfer.

@mcmms
sinubukan ko rin ang sinasabi mong sa OpenDNS, mabilis lang siyang magresolve
ng URL pero mabagal pa rin sa data transfer.

mabilis man ang connection natin kung ang data ay nasasakal sa mga ISP,
wala tayong magagawa. yun lang siguro ang kayang ibigay na output ng
mga wireless ISP.

in fairness katakam takam ang offer nila hehe. kaso kulang ang infos na nakalagay how about the price and un nga san mangagaling un connection sa smart, globe or sun? ^_^

i guess:

SUN sa digitel na nila kinukuha yung connection
==> not tried yet and i have no idea about their price.

SMART malamang sa pldt sila nakaconnect
==> ito ang alam kung pinakamura ang internet via GPRS charge
P10/30min which is just fine. ideal for sending e-mail, chat.
not recommended for downloading.

GLOBE? i have no idea.
==> pinakamataas ang charge sa internet via GPRS,
per kilobytes ang charge ang Php100 mo mauubos within 3minutes surfing.