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azterisky
14th Nov 2007 Wed, 13:39
no offense to others, but i simply don't look at others religion.
i believe that religion is a way to simply create division within people.
have you ever think that because of religion, a lot of things happen from a small point of view or opinion.
in history, if you happen to watch Kingdom of Heaven, it was between the muslims and christians. this is just one example of how religion affect humans.
now a lot of sects has existed that even divide people and take away unity.

religion is not important, it is your relationship with whom you believe is in fact what is and what will be the most important thing.

have anyone of you ever asked yourself if i'm a Catholic (Roman Catholic), if i'm an Iglesia ni Cristo, if i'm a Muslim, if i'm Jehova's Witness, if i'm 4th Watcher, if i'm with Ang Dating Daan, if i'm a Baptist, if i'm a Born Again, what was the thing i have contributed to share the love of whom i believe in?
what did i do to tell others about my maker? about my saviour? about my redeemer?

have you ever asked yourself, what on earth am I here for?
did you discover your life's purpose by joining religious groups. if so.

can you share your experience?

God bless all of you:pray:

wella1407
15th Nov 2007 Thu, 05:22
not really.. may relegions or wala we can't question the existence of the Superior Being.. :pray:

aga_cruz
15th Nov 2007 Thu, 13:04
yap importante po kasi d2 tayo maliligtas:) kung tama ang religion na pag papasukan o aaniban mo:)

DP Member
30th Nov 2007 Fri, 23:05
Sorry to those who may be offended by this next post....




religion is not important, it is your relationship with whom you believe is in fact what is and what will be the most important thing.


your right about that. religion is not really that important, but our personal relationship with God is the most important...

yap importante po kasi d2 tayo maliligtas:) kung tama ang religion na pag papasukan o aaniban mo:)

Kung magbabasa po kayo ng bible, makikita nyo po na hindi binanggit ang kahit anong religion bilang magliligtas sa inyo.....
Si Hesus ang nagligtas sa atin...Kung iintindihin natin mabuti ang bibliya, si Hesus ay ang mismong nagbigay ng buhay niya para mabayaran ang ating mga kasalanan...



"For God so loved the world,that He gave his one and only Son, that whomsoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life"

This is the verse that tells everything about His sacrifice.. I'm not here to preach about the bible as a "book" like any other books, because it is not by any means ordinary...Some still argue with the correctness of the bible, but if we will actually really read and study the bible ourselves(rather than listen to others' comments), we will discover the real truth.

Religion is not the one who will save you...

No, I am not a Freemason(who don't believe any of the religion). I just don't believe in religion as a means to save us from the path of hell, but I believe that religion is just a terminology made by people to try to use their own set of beliefs to influence other people whether good or bad, which only God knows

The most important thing is that we should always remember that Jesus is the one that saved us...

Many may argue and argue because of these "shocking statement", but I won't because if you where someone who found the truth, there is no need to question it anymore...If anybody does not accept this truth, then it really does not matter to me since I'm only a person, but God will be saddened if anyone does not really accept the gift that He has lain before us...

Trust in Jesus, only in Jesus...

(Like any gifts, it can be taken or not..All of that depends on our decision, whether to accept the truth that Jesus the Son of God, has been sent by God himself to save us, and Jesus died for our sins because we are so worse than filthy rags because of our sins, that any goodness that we do ourselves won't really save us from the path of perdition....)

empoy
1st Dec 2007 Sat, 22:00
gusto ko lang i-share ang opinion ko about this topic...

>> for almost 7 years...my stand for religion hasn't change..."RELIGION for me is just an organization"... religion is not that important for us to find the right way or the way to GOD...

>> last night i watched a great movie titled "ANOTHER PERFECT STRANGER"... and they've mentioned there that "religion caused people...confused...it also caused war"...which i agree...

point of view ko lang yan ha...anyway we have different beliefs with regards to this matter...

enajyram14
1st Dec 2007 Sat, 23:33
sorry if some might get offended but i don't believe in religion... but i respect them, for it is there belief... religion makes us blinder and divided... kung titingnan mo ang mga existing religion ngayon, sila ang dahilan kung bakit nagkakanya-kanya tayo at sila mismo hindi nila pinapraktis yung mga pinapangaral nila...

"as long as we believe that there is GOD, and we have faith in Him, we don't need a religion..."

hzel_
2nd Dec 2007 Sun, 16:19
for me di nmn important kung anu religion mo eh....the important things is ur relationship w/ God

jayem
15th Dec 2007 Sat, 19:14
kung tama ang religion("group" meaning) mo ay maliligtas ka, kung "religion"(to tie back to god) ang purpose mo, magsaliksik ka ng tamang iglesia, hanapin mo ang totoong iglesia na itinayo ni kristo.

jayem
15th Dec 2007 Sat, 19:20
Sorry to those who may be offended by this next post....




your right about that. religion is not really that important, but our personal relationship with God is the most important...



Kung magbabasa po kayo ng bible, makikita nyo po na hindi binanggit ang kahit anong religion bilang magliligtas sa inyo.....
Si Hesus ang nagligtas sa atin...Kung iintindihin natin mabuti ang bibliya, si Hesus ay ang mismong nagbigay ng buhay niya para mabayaran ang ating mga kasalanan...



"For God so loved the world,that He gave his one and only Son, that whomsoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life"

This is the verse that tells everything about His sacrifice.. I'm not here to preach about the bible as a "book" like any other books, because it is not by any means ordinary...Some still argue with the correctness of the bible, but if we will actually really read and study the bible ourselves(rather than listen to others' comments), we will discover the real truth.

Religion is not the one who will save you...

No, I am not a Freemason(who don't believe any of the religion). I just don't believe in religion as a means to save us from the path of hell, but I believe that religion is just a terminology made by people to try to use their own set of beliefs to influence other people whether good or bad, which only God knows

The most important thing is that we should always remember that Jesus is the one that saved us...

Many may argue and argue because of these "shocking statement", but I won't because if you where someone who found the truth, there is no need to question it anymore...If anybody does not accept this truth, then it really does not matter to me since I'm only a person, but God will be saddened if anyone does not really accept the gift that He has lain before us...

Trust in Jesus, only in Jesus...

(Like any gifts, it can be taken or not..All of that depends on our decision, whether to accept the truth that Jesus the Son of God, has been sent by God himself to save us, and Jesus died for our sins because we are so worse than filthy rags because of our sins, that any goodness that we do ourselves won't really save us from the path of perdition....)



matagal ko na rin po inieexplain ito sa mga kakilala ko.

tama wala kang mababasa sa bible na salitang religion pero may mababasa kang magreligion ka sa bible, let's go deeper. what is the true meaning of religion? from the latin word ba or greek word, religion simply means to tie/bond back to god. di ba sinabi sa bible na magbalik-loob ka sa diyos, so tama lang ang religion na word kung meaning ng religion ang pagbabasehan natin, pero kung yung organization classified as religion eh wala talaga. nowadays, we know religion as organization, but if we study it deeper marami tayong malalaman tungkol sa religion, where it came from and how it was built. IMHO, research lang po tayo, para maligtas tayo.

magreligion(tie back to god) ka para makita mo ang tamang iglesia, ang dating landas at ang totoong Iglesiang itinayo ni Kristo. dun mo masasabing nagreligion ka na.

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kitong
16th Dec 2007 Sun, 12:53
NO, religion is not important for me..

may nakita akong quote dito and I would like to share it with you guys..
“There's enough religion in the world to make men hate each other, but not enough to make them love.”

religions make men think they are above others.. that one religion is higher/better than others.. this way of thinking leads to division, miscommunication, misunderstanding and, unfortunately, hatred..

what important is that we believe in a SUPREME and HIGHER Being that we all call GOD.. we should have a fruitful relationship with HIM and be HIS ultimate servant.

jmark
16th Dec 2007 Sun, 13:48
no i dont..you know why? its not the religion that saves us but our beliefs on HIS existence..., as simple as that..:thumbsup:

chrono_dude
26th Dec 2007 Wed, 03:53
Christian greetings to all,
guys lets put it this way. for example you are the student, the ministers or your religion is your teacher, Jesus Christ is the principal and the judgement or the 2nd coming is the Final exam. (1st scenario: people who says religion is not important) what if there is no teacher/ministers or religion? would you pass the exam? (2nd scenario) what if you are in the wrong religion(wrong teachers and lesson)? would you pass the exam? (3rd scenario) what if you are in the right teacher and in the right lesson but wont listen and dont obey your teachers lessons? would you pass the exam? (last scenario) what if you are in the right teacher and lesson(right religion) and you believe and obey every teachings your teacher says. would you pass the exam? i'm sure you will. may point my brothers and sisters is that religion is so important is important in our spiritual growth and learning. but mind you religion cannot help you in your own salvation. like your teacher when the final exams starts. he cannot help you when you are taking your exams. you are on your own. i am not condemning you guys. I just want you to realize how important religion is. this is just my point of view. i know some of you will disagree. but feel free to express your own opinion. pag pacnxahan nio na poh english ko ha? God bless to all.

azterisky
26th Dec 2007 Wed, 13:22
Christian greetings to all,
guys lets put it this way. for example you are the student, the ministers or your religion is your teacher, Jesus Christ is the principal and the judgement or the 2nd coming is the Final exam. (1st scenario: people who says religion is not important) what if there is no teacher/ministers or religion? would you pass the exam? (2nd scenario) what if you are in the wrong religion(wrong teachers and lesson)? would you pass the exam? (3rd scenario) what if you are in the right teacher and in the right lesson but wont listen and dont obey your teachers lessons? would you pass the exam? (last scenario) what if you are in the right teacher and lesson(right religion) and you believe and obey every teachings your teacher says. would you pass the exam? i'm sure you will. may point my brothers and sisters is that religion is so important is important in our spiritual growth and learning. but mind you religion cannot help you in your own salvation. like your teacher when the final exams starts. he cannot help you when you are taking your exams. you are on your own. i am not condemning you guys. I just want you to realize how important religion is. this is just my point of view. i know some of you will disagree. but feel free to express your own opinion. pag pacnxahan nio na poh english ko ha? God bless to all.




anung religion mo??? :noidea:

panu ung mga taong nasa remote areas?

panu ung mga taga africa na sa gubat nakatira?

panu ung mga taong nakakilala lang sa Panginoon pero dahil lang sa mga misyonaryo kaya nila nakilala ang Panginoon, hindi sila pinapaanib sa kung anung relihiyon pero ng tinanaggap nila si Jesus bilang personal na Diyos at Tagapagligtas nalaman nila ang halaga ng personal na relasyon.

panu ung mga kamag-anak mong hindi hindi stable ang relasyon sa panginoon, pero nakikita mo na linggo linggo silang nagsisimba. pero hindi mo kakikitaan ng pagbabago sa buhay?
masasabi mo bang tama ang relihiyon nila pero hindi naman nababago ang buhay nila?
ng maanib ka sa relihiyon na kinabibilangan mo ngaun, nakagagawa mo ba ang GREAT COMMISSION na gustong ipagawa ng Diyos sa iyo?

nalaman mo ba ang tunay na purpose mo dito sa mundo kung bakit ka nilikha ng Diyos pagkatapos mong umanib sa relihiyon mo ngaun? kung oo. Ibig sabihin na nalaman mo ang iyong purpose d2 sa mundo dahil nagkaroon ka ng mas malalim na relasyon sa Panginoon.

You have learned to walk in the light of God, you have learned to walk by the Spirit of God, you have learned to share the love of God to others.
Think about it, how many religion are there in the whole world? and how many is right? that's right there are so many that if you think only one religion can be right, so the rest of human kind will not pass this test you are referring to, because the rest of the entire human race have totally different religion than what you have right now.

look at this statistics:

# Christianity: 2.1 billion
# Islam: 1.5 billion
# Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
# Hinduism: 900 million
# Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
# Buddhism: 376 million
# primal-indigenous: 300 million
# African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
# Sikhism: 23 million
# Juche: 19 million
# Spiritism: 15 million
# Judaism: 14 million
# Baha'i: 7 million
# Jainism: 4.2 million
# Shinto: 4 million
# Cao Dai: 4 million
# Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
# Tenrikyo: 2 million
# Neo-Paganism: 1 million
# Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
# Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
# Scientology: 500 thousand

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

think about it dude.

how about those millions of people not having the same religion as yours, if your claiming religion will save you, meaning to say that you also claim that where you are right now (what religion you have will save you) it will definitely save you.
do you even think that the Lord will not save the rest of human race by establishing only one true religion???
the Lord love all human and He wants to reach people who haven't heard of Him through You, if you know Him personally, you will do your part to extend His love to others.
you will extend His mercy by sharing to others His salvation offered to everyone.
so much more to say about sharing the gospel...
did you happen to share to your family how Jesus made you glad today?


IT"S ALL ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO JESUS

14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

sapolter
27th Dec 2007 Thu, 07:46
para sa akin and according to what i have learned that there is only ONE supreme being and for us Catholics it is God, so in any religion you are affiliated to you will be saved.

and remember "God created us in his own image and likeness"...

God Bless You All This Coming New Year!! :celebrate::celebrate:

chrono_dude
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 06:27
im not saying that religion will save me. mai cnabi ba ako na religion ang makakapagligtas saatin? wla po akong cnabing ganun po. and young mga taong nkatira sa gubat sa tingin mo po ba ang itinuro lang nga mga missionary eh ang pano ang tamang relaxon sa panginoon? try and ask them what is their religion. cgrado sasabihin nla ung religion ng mga missionaryong nagturo sakanila. what impointing out is religion is very important, pero hindi ito ang mag sasalba satin. gets mo ung point? religion is important. ung turo ang tignan mo wag mga tao sa religion kundi ang mga turo. unang una cgro na tinitignan mo sa isang religion eh mga members cgro. wak dapat un. ung turo ang tignan mo at ibase mo sa biblya. wak mo ibabase sa mga tao o mga members. kc tao lang mga yan. nagkakamali din. so paki remember po na wla ako cnabi na religion ang mkakasalba satin sa habang buhay na kamatayan pero npka laking bagay o importante ang religion para malaman natin ang katotohanan. Getsmo po ungpoint?

chrono_dude
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 06:34
bro sapolter oo tama ka there is one supreme being and that is GOd. tama po yan pero why do catholics pray at mary and other martyrs? they are only humans. and it is stated in the Ten Commandments thou shalt have no other gods before me. so how can you be save if you disobey the commandments of God? but your religion says its ok to pray at them. so they are quite conflicting right? so being in the right religion is a big deal. bro dont get offended ha?

chrono_dude
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 06:41
yah you are right religion make us blind and devided. but being in the "right" religion makes us see the truth. right? marami tlga ang blinded kc their ministers are in control of satan. so their members are also blinded. right?

-aiah-
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 07:19
religion dont matter... for me, its just a social control... some says its a good bsusiness kasi napapsunod mo ang mga tao by injecting them the ideas, ideology ang orientation. through this.. you can collect money from the ppol or used them in political matters... :peace:

jayem
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 14:45
religion dont matter... for me, its just a social control... some says its a good bsusiness kasi napapsunod mo ang mga tao by injecting them the ideas, ideology ang orientation. through this.. you can collect money from the ppol or used them in political matters... :peace:

kung wala pong religion at lahat tayo ay naniniwala sa Diyos, pano na ang mga utos ni kristo? sino ang magaayos ng lahat ng yun? at paano tayo matututo ng tama kung walang religion na magmumulat sa tin ng katotohanan. yung mga kusang handog para tulungan ang congregation ay utos ng Diyos yun.

isipin niyo na lang na kung wala tayong religion, siguradong kanya-kanya ang lahat sa paniniwala mas magulo yun. pwedeng ang isang tao ay naniniwala sa multo pero yung isa ay naniniwalang evil spirit lang yun. magkakagulo po lalo. kaya may Iglesiang tinayo si kristo para dun tayo kumuha ng mga aral niya at isabuhay, kailangan mo lang hanapin ang tamang relihiyon.

-aiah-
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 14:49
kung wala pong religion at lahat tayo ay naniniwala sa Diyos, pano na ang mga utos ni kristo? sino ang magaayos ng lahat ng yun? at paano tayo matututo ng tama kung walang religion na magmumulat sa tin ng katotohanan. yung mga kusang handog para tulungan ang congregation ay utos ng Diyos yun.

isipin niyo na lang na kung wala tayong religion, siguradong kanya-kanya ang lahat sa paniniwala mas magulo yun. pwedeng ang isang tao ay naniniwala sa multo pero yung isa ay naniniwalang evil spirit lang yun. magkakagulo po lalo. kaya may Iglesiang tinayo si kristo para dun tayo kumuha ng mga aral niya at isabuhay, kailangan mo lang hanapin ang tamang relihiyon.

ano po ang tawag sa atin ngayon?? pagkakaisa ba ang naidudulot ng relihiyon??? ng aaway parin naman diba? wat im trying to say is... its not the religion that saves... check our own history.. :peace:

jayem
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 15:01
ano po ang tawag sa atin ngayon?? pagkakaisa ba ang naidudulot ng relihiyon??? ng aaway parin naman diba? wat im trying to say is... its not the religion that saves... check our own history.. :peace:

well tama ka, may mga pagtatalo pa rin sa relihiyon kasi nga there is only one church that we should belong with, kaya nga nuong una tinayo ni kristo yun eh, nawala ang mga apostol at kumalat ang iglesia ni kristo hanggang sa naitalikod na ang pananmpalataya na yun, mabuti na lang nandiyan ang bible.
and if you are on the true church, sis, may pagkakaisa so hanapin mo yung religion na yun.

if you're trying to say na it's not the religion that will save us, i agree kasi kahit ang taong nasa tamang iglesia eh nde maliligtas kung paliko pa rin ang gawa ng individual na yun. the point is, sinabi sa bible na muling babangon ito at itatayong muli ang tamang church. hanapin lang natin.


don't stick on traditions or kasi eto na yung ikinamulat mo, magsaliksik ka tungkol sa mga relihiyong sumusunod sa mga utos ng diyos walang labis walang kulang sigurado masusumpungan mo. tandaan niyo makipot ang daan. :)

-aiah-
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 15:15
well tama ka, may mga pagtatalo pa rin sa relihiyon kasi nga there is only one church that we should belong with, kaya nga nuong una tinayo ni kristo yun eh, nawala ang mga apostol at kumalat ang iglesia ni kristo hanggang sa naitalikod na ang pananmpalataya na yun, mabuti na lang nandiyan ang bible.
and if you are on the true church, sis, may pagkakaisa so hanapin mo yung religion na yun.

if you're trying to say na it's not the religion that will save us, i agree kasi kahit ang taong nasa tamang iglesia eh nde maliligtas kung paliko pa rin ang gawa ng individual na yun. the point is, sinabi sa bible na muling babangon ito at itatayong muli ang tamang church. hanapin lang natin.


don't stick on traditions or kasi eto na yung ikinamulat mo, magsaliksik ka tungkol sa mga relihiyong sumusunod sa mga utos ng diyos walang labis walang kulang sigurado masusumpungan mo. tandaan niyo makipot ang daan. :)

but for me...as long as i know in my heart wat i believe. khit anong teaching pa ang sabihin ng kung sino jan... pag tinanong mo naman if he or she was justified... hirap parin sa pagsagot... :peace:

jayem
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 15:27
but for me...as long as i know in my heart wat i believe. khit anong teaching pa ang sabihin ng kung sino jan... pag tinanong mo naman if he or she was justified... hirap parin sa pagsagot... :peace:


even if nasa bible na bawal yung ganito o ganyan, eh nasa puso mo yun, will you still follow your heart?

-aiah-
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 20:59
even if nasa bible na bawal yung ganito o ganyan, eh nasa puso mo yun, will you still follow your heart?

we are old enaf namn po siguro to know wat to follow... ang akin po kasi is... the real relationship between the creator and u... wat i observe po kasi... maraming relihiyosong tao pero if u'l check them carefully...:slap: naku!! may tinatago palang maraming masamang ugali

kurabo
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 21:52
i don't rely on religion.. basta ako it's all about faith not belief.. gumawa k ng tama n naayon sa diyos un lang..

langitzu
28th Dec 2007 Fri, 22:04
wat i observe po kasi... maraming relihiyosong tao pero if u'l check them carefully...:slap: naku!! may tinatago palang maraming masamang ugali

totoo to.. marami akong kilalang ganitong mga tao... mga lagi nagsisimba at minsan mga members pa ng mga religious groups pero pakitang-tao lang pla..

i don't rely on religion.. basta ako it's all about faith not belief.. gumawa k ng tama n naayon sa diyos un lang..

agree ako sa sinabi mo tol...

azterisky
29th Dec 2007 Sat, 03:35
ok, everyone's opinion is taken here seriously.

this should never go further anymore to hurt someone else emotion.

all of your posts here has been appreciated.

thanks to everyone.