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Test all things; hold fast what is good.
1Thessalonians 5:21 (NKJV)


Before You Start:
If you are a member of the Iglesia ni Cristo and are convinced that it is the "only true church," and will accept no possibility of proof to the contrary, you may not want to view this site. If, however, you are a member, and sense something is wrong, or you are considering joining the Iglesia ni Cristo, we strongly encourage you to view the entirety of this site which has 7 sections and a total of 45 pages.

We encourage you to read it slowly and deliberately. A cursory view of this site will not suffice; you should come back to it as many times as necessary to gain a full understanding of the issues.

Introduction: Claims of the INC
The Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ from the Philippines) claims to be the only true church:

"...the Iglesia ni Cristo never tires of convincing people to leave their false religions and come to the only true religion, the Iglesia ni Cristo."

Pasugo, September/October 1991, page 19


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"This may come as a surprise to many, but the Biblical truth is, though all churches profess to preach God and Christ, there is only one true church that can bring people back to the good graces of God."

Pasugo, November 1973, page 19


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It also claims to be the reestablishment of the first century Church of Christ that fell by way of apostasy — by means of God's last messenger, Felix Y. Manalo:

"The Church of Christ which was apostatized after the first century was restored to its pristine purity by God by means of His last messenger, brother Felix Y. Manalo..."

Pasugo, July/August 1988, page 7


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Consequently, only Iglesia ni Cristo ministers can be considered God's messengers:

"It is through the preaching function of God's messengers that God calls people to be gathered in one body or in the Church of Christ. This is why members of the Iglesia ni Cristo uphold the words of God preached by His messenger in these last days, Brother Felix Y. Manalo. He and the other ministers and workers of the Church are the ones whom God sent in these last days, as attested to by the fulfillment of God's prophecy, to preach the gospel..."

Pasugo, August 1996, page 7


To continue reading and be enlightened, go to
SITE LINK
http://www.examineiglesianicristo.com/

Ang Kasuklam suklam na Pahayag ng mga ministro ng Iglesia ni Kristo

Sana naman payagan nyo na itong post ko. Totoo naman , manood kayo ng ADD at makikita nyo.

Nasusuklam lang kasi ako sa pinagsasabi ng mga ministro ng INC. Kasi, imbis na pagusapan ang aral ng Diyos at magturo ng kabutihan ang sinabi ba naman eh. Nasa Dubai daw si Bro. Eli, pakalat kalat daw dun, pwede daw nilang sunduin, sa airport nakacarpet pa daw, pwede ring padagdagan ng ilaw, kakausapin pa si Amorao. Sagot na rin daw ang kape at biscuit. Tapos may wish pa, REST IN PEACE. Yan ba ang nagtuturo ng salita ng Diyos? Di ba talaga nila makapagkatwiranan yung aral nila at ipapatay na lang si Bro. Eli? Diba pinasusugod din nila yung mga suicide bombers sa Apalit? Di lang naman si Bro. Eli ang nasa apalit, may ibang tao rin dun!

Ang isa pang nakakaasar yung sagot na, "abutin nyo muna ang kaluwalhatian natamo ng INC bago kayo harapin sa debate". Ano yun? Meron bang mangagaral o apostol ng Panginoong Hesukristo na nagsabi nun? di ba pag ang aral nyo ang tinitira haharapin mo? anong kaduwagan ni manalo yan?

Sana po payagan nyo itong post ko, kapaag si cranky ang nagppost ng pangungutya o puna sa ADD, ok lang, eto totoo naman, napanood naman sa tv, payagan nyo na po. Salamat po.

SITE
[This site is the Official Site of the Republic of the Philippines]
http://www.gov.ph/FORUM/thread.asp?rootID=86537&catID=24

INC Pastor killed his wife, son and himself

posted by janeabao on 02/08/2007 05:48
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Thou shalt not kill thy neighbor - especially in a chapel! Is this getting to be a habit?

posted by Ardee_Maiza on 02/08/2007 06:23
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Tsk Tsk. What could be the motive for this killing?

posted by Rey Tamayo Jr. on 02/08/2007 06:26
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Killing is ungodly works of an ungodly people.

posted by Ryan on 02/08/2007 06:55
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Now, they did it again!

It brings back to mind one of the most celebrated cases in the Philippine legal history when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of some teenage students from the Polytechnic University of the Philippines (PUP), who after playing basketball, were massacred and tortured by their opponents in that game who are members of the Iglesia ni Cristo.

Could it be history repeating itself? Now they are trying to hide it again in their temple which they claim is a very special place for them because it is here where their god dwells! Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.


SITES
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view_article.php?article_id=48314

http://www.italknews.com/view_link.php?sid=12416

Introduction: Reasons for Examination
Why this examination? We'll let the INC answer this question:

"...all religious people should be stirred to inquire about the status of preachers in their respective churches. It is their bounden duty, for the sake of their souls, to ascertain if the founder or leader of their church was sent by God or not."

Pasugo, June 1970, page 6


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"The right to preach the Gospel comes from God, not from any man or any human institution. It is the people's privilege and right to question the authority of anyone preaching the gospel".

Pasugo, January 1963, page 39

It's our privilege and right to examine the claims of the INC; our eternal destiny lies in the balance.

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And So I think that the Ministers of INC should be the one to answer this website. if there is one here on this forum.

ADD ka ba o may galit ka sa INC? nagtatanong lang po. peace.

wala akong galit, naawa lng ako sa mga naloloko. Halos lahat kasi ng mga lumilipat sa INC ay mga mangmang(no offense), or walang matibay na pundasyon sa kanilang dating paniniwala..

If the Spaniards didn't came to the Philippines, their won't be Christianism(RCatholics) in this land, and because there is no Christianity there won't be any teachings about Christ, Christianity and especially the Bible. And because there's no Bible, False Faiths will never exist because this is their SOLE evidence and material to deceive people. The Church compiled and created the Bible but it was given FALSE MEANINGS and DECEPTION by others. Source: vatican.va

Christ never said to create a BIBLE, even you scan every pages of the Bible, He said that a Church is to be built. "Peter(First Pope), you are the Rock, and on this Rock I will build my Church" Therefore, if there is no Church, there will be no Bible.

wala akong galit, naawa lng ako sa mga naloloko. Halos lahat kasi ng mga lumilipat sa INC ay mga mangmang(no offense), or walang matibay na pundasyon sa kanilang dating paniniwala..

so therefore what is your religion? do you agree that your religion is the true church as what it says from the bible?

how would you say na naloloko ang mga umanib sa iglesia ni Kristo? and from the bold text above, you said mangmang or walang matibay na pundasyon from their previous religion, so saan ba dapat kumuha ng matibay na pundasyon? may tamang relihiyon ba na dapat pagkuhaan ng tamang paniniwala?

Honestly, I am a member of Iglesia ni Cristo. i was not offended because the foundation of my beliefs is solid. but how about the other members that can not debate for this kind of issue. it would be best if you will tell us what is your religion. if you don't mind.

bro what's your main purpose for posting this?

i hope you understand the word "RESPECT".. kung may nagawa sayo isa sa mga kaanib ni INC n hndi maganda wag mo naman lahatin..
kahit ako mejo naasar din ako sa INC pero hndi dun sa relihyon at ang sa mga taong nakpaloob nun..pero dun sa mga ilang lider n akala mo sila n ang tama at may halong panginsulto p kung manuligsa kung minsan.. pero wag mo nman lahatin.. tao lang rin ung mga un kaya nagkakamali..

hndi lang ikaw ang tao di2 bro.. may mga naooffend ka rin.. so better watch your words..

ok lang yan kurabo kung kaya ng Threadstarter na depensahan ang sarili niya, kasi ako kaya kong depensahan yung paniniwala ko. and i think this is just a troll, kasi first post niya to eh.

Kung ganyan lang, gumawa na lang kayo ng Theology thread. :nerd:

NET25 FEED YOUR MIND
yes, feed your mind with lies, deception, evil, etc. i've been watching this station and all they got are words full of lies. they quarrel other churches, whether Eli Sorianos or Catholics and others. i wonder why they do not quarrel with the Moslems? are they afraid? All they are after for is money... the INC.

ok din to na thread tsong ah, kahit dinidiscriminate yung INC well baka may makabasa na isang INC and would like to express his comments defending his side diba, it would become constructive and additional learnings, then after that we will be more understanding to each other as a fellow human thus will able to ..... tama na naubusan na ako

kung nandito kau para magsiraan, eh di umalis nalang kau... dun nyo pagusapan yang mga paniniwala nyo sa ibang lugar... bastat mging mabuti lang kayo sa kapwa at maging mapagmahal sa diyos, ok na un..:D

wala akong galit, naawa lng ako sa mga naloloko. Halos lahat kasi ng mga lumilipat sa INC ay mga mangmang(no offense), or walang matibay na pundasyon sa kanilang dating paniniwala..

amen to this boss..

sa totoo lang marami akong kilalang makitid ang isip..
hindi sa ayaw ko sa religion nila, wala nga ako alam eh..

pero HALOS lahat ng kilala ko eh ang baba ng pag reason and etc..

take note muna bago magsalita, yung lugar ko ang daming ganyan kaya kitang kita ko ugali nila..

sana nga dito lang iyun eh..


edit.

nga pala, wala akong inis galit or kung man na hate sa INC, sa mga tao lang..
maganda yung turo eh [sabi ng ibang ayaw sa taong INC] yung mga tao lang talaga na kasali..

naalala ko ex ko [na INC], hindi daw sila namimilit pero ilang beses ako pinipilit ng magulang niya and siya :D

NET25 FEED YOUR MIND
yes, feed your mind with lies, deception, evil, etc. i've been watching this station and all they got are words full of lies. they quarrel other churches, whether Eli Sorianos or Catholics and others. i wonder why they do not quarrel with the Moslems? are they afraid? All they are after for is money... the INC.



Gagawa-gawa ka ng thread di mo naman madepensahan sarili mo, di ka makapagpakita ng strong evidence mo para sabihin na nanloloko ang mga INC. brod, sagutin mo yung mga tanong ko sa yo. o baka naman wala kang alam at naninira ka lang. magaral ka kaya muna ng bibliya baka sakaling magkaroon ng laman ang utak mo.

if you can't stand your faith, don't ever stab others faith.

ok din to na thread tsong ah, kahit dinidiscriminate yung INC well baka may makabasa na isang INC and would like to express his comments defending his side diba, it would become constructive and additional learnings, then after that we will be more understanding to each other as a fellow human thus will able to ..... tama na naubusan na ako

actually bro ako na yung sumasagot sa mga batikos nila lalo na kay false_faith, pero di naman niya mapanindigan yung mga sinasabi niya. kapag ako nagbitaw ng salita maipaglalaban ko yun. so this thread is merely a fact na naninira lang yung thread starter, after all this is his first post kapatid. meaning the reason for creating a username and/or account here eh para manira ng walang basehan at paninindigan.


sana bago mang-akusa eh kayang panindigan lahat ng sasabihin.

sabi ko nangaba eh. iglesia ung nakidebate sau. hehehe. pero aus un kc kinausap ka bro ng matino dba? that is a noble way to answer a question. dbat d galit dba? aus! kaia lang bat minumura ng iglesia ministers ung ibang ministers din? tas inaaway nla ung ibang religion. mai point din kc ung isa eh. inaaway nla kapwa christian pero ung muslim na sobrang taliwas sa paniniwala nla eh d nla binabanggit dba? just wondering bro ha? no offense. peace. God bless to all.

i think this thread is somewhat of a hate thread against INC as a religion/group.

i mean no disrespect to the threadstarter but if one will create a thread like this, he/she should back it up..

i'm not an INC member.. im a NPC (just check the what's your religion thread) but i understand jayem.. he's ready to defend his beliefs and his religion.. its just proper that the threadstarter should defend his..

this thread is entitled as "examine INC", so let's examine INC. the threadstarter should give us points to study. facts to debate about, etc..

like i said in the other thread, religion causes division among us men.. this forum will make us understand other people's ideals and beliefs.. make us respect each other and somehow narrow the division caused by our religions..

sabi ko nangaba eh. iglesia ung nakidebate sau. hehehe. pero aus un kc kinausap ka bro ng matino dba? that is a noble way to answer a question. dbat d galit dba? aus! kaia lang bat minumura ng iglesia ministers ung ibang ministers din? tas inaaway nla ung ibang religion. mai point din kc ung isa eh. inaaway nla kapwa christian pero ung muslim na sobrang taliwas sa paniniwala nla eh d nla binabanggit dba? just wondering bro ha? no offense. peace. God bless to all.

i don't really have any idea about it, mga leaders kasi ang nagpapalakad ng programa sa tv. but then if you're going to get the point and see it or look at it, you may understand it. sila ang nagbibigay o naghahanda ng iaaral o ita-topic nila sa tv. so i may not answer it.

kung nagsalita ng tarantado, di naman yun mura it just came from the root word taranta. kung nagsabi man ng gago try to look at filipino dictionary makikita niyo na magulo ang isip ang meaning. pero kung nagsabi ng PI or 'ulol' directly sa tao dun po natin dapat batikusin kasi direktang nagmura yun. these days kasi yung mga simpleng tagalog o simpleng masakit na salita eh ginagawa ng mura by their understanding.

try to weigh it lang po. :)

i don't really have any idea about it, mga leaders kasi ang nagpapalakad ng programa sa tv. but then if you're going to get the point and see it or look at it, you may understand it. sila ang nagbibigay o naghahanda ng iaaral o ita-topic nila sa tv. so i may not answer it.

kung nagsalita ng tarantado, di naman yun mura it just came from the root word taranta. kung nagsabi man ng gago try to look at filipino dictionary makikita niyo na magulo ang isip ang meaning. pero kung nagsabi ng PI or 'ulol' directly sa tao dun po natin dapat batikusin kasi direktang nagmura yun. these days kasi yung mga simpleng tagalog o simpleng masakit na salita eh ginagawa ng mura by their understanding.

try to weigh it lang po. :)

xensya n huh.. hndi ako makapili sa mga reasons eh

un ding gusto ko ipinpoint eh ung sinasabi no chrono_dude.. about dun naman sa trantado for me its a lame excuse.. kung ganun nga rason walang pinagkaiba sa tinitira nilang si Eli Soriano..:slap:..hndi maiiwasan n mapuna ang mga ganung salita kasi reliyhon ka n tumutukoy s diyos dapat maging isa kang ehemplo.. hndi tanga ang tao para sabihin hndi mura yun at dadaanin sa dictionary n literal n paraan.. wlang pinagkaiba sa pangrarason ng mga atheist..

kaya mas hanga pa ako sa ibang sekta eh.. pinaninindigan nila ang paniniwala nila at maruno silang rumespeto sa paniniwala ng iba.. like ng JIL,7th Adventsist etc..

when judgement day comes you will be judge according to your action not by your religion

oo nga tama c kurabo. tol ano religion mo?

tanong lng bro, pinagbabawal ba ng INC ang paninigarilyo ng mga myembro nila?:D

pero alam ko sa INC ANG paniniwala nila si KRISTO TAO tama ba yun????

at saka BANAL NA HAPUNAN sa umaga ginagawa??? tama ba yun????