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Trinity
28th Dec 2007, 20:02
Faith matters. Kung basta-basta ka na lang maniniwala, dahil uso or parang nakakakumbinsi, ewan ko nalang. Deus Caritas Est. -Trinity


ARTICLE
‘Where is that in the Bible?’ Anti-Catholics always ask this to prove Catholic practices are baseless or unbiblical! In order to answer them, we should know the true story about the origin of the Bible! Hundreds of protestant pastors have already come back to Catholic Church just because they studied not only the Bible, but also the great history of the Bible!(please watch ‘Journey Home’ in EWTN channel)

The 'Bible alone' is not the basis of faith
Jesus in His life never mentioned about a Bible. He never commanded us to believe in a book! We cannot see He ordered apostles to write a Book. During the time of apostles there was no Bible at all! Jesus founded, not a book as the basis of faith, but the Church as the “pillar and foundation of the truth” (2 Tim 3.15) and He promised not that book, but He Himself will be with his Church till the end of the age (Mt 28:20) and the Holy Spirit will lead the apostles and the successors in to the’ fullness of truth’ after his ascension to heaven (Jn. 14:16-17). He even said,” If anyone refuses to listen to the church, treat him as if you would a gentile or tax collector”

Tradition and the Bible
In the early centuries, before Bible was formed Christians believed the teaching of the apostles and their disciples, as the basis of their faith, which is knows as “Oral Tradition”. These traditions were not human customs mentioned in Mt. 15: 3, 6 – 9, that were observed by Pharisees, but they were accepted as guided by the Holy Spirit.
In fact, the words such as ‘Bible’, Purgatory, ‘Trinity’, and Assumption are all coming from these early Christian traditions! Later, when the Bible came, it defended those traditions.
2 Thess. 2:15 “So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.”
1 Cor. 11:2 “Now I praise you because you remember me in everything, and hold firmly to the traditions just as I delivered them to you.


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Catholic666
28th Dec 2007, 20:34
kung yung Old testament ang gumawa nun ay ang mga propeta at mga lingkod ng diyos. kung ang New testament, iilan lang ang dapat paniwalaan dahil ang apat na ebanghelyo doon ay ginawa ni Pedro na unang Pope ng Katoliko na nagtalikwas sa mga aral na iniwan ni kristo at yun ay ang hulang naganap. Lahat kayo mali!!!

Trinity
28th Dec 2007, 20:49
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kung yung Old testament ang gumawa nun ay ang mga propeta at mga lingkod ng diyos. kung ang New testament, iilan lang ang dapat paniwalaan dahil ang apat na ebanghelyo doon ay ginawa ni Pedro na unang Pope ng Katoliko na nagtalikwas sa mga aral na iniwan ni kristo at yun ay ang hulang naganap. Lahat kayo mali!!!


kawawa ka nman, wla kang alam..

kurabo
28th Dec 2007, 20:50
kung yung Old testament ang gumawa nun ay ang mga propeta at mga lingkod ng diyos. kung ang New testament, iilan lang ang dapat paniwalaan dahil ang apat na ebanghelyo doon ay ginawa ni Pedro na unang Pope ng Katoliko na nagtalikwas sa mga aral na iniwan ni kristo at yun ay ang hulang naganap. Lahat kayo mali!!!

alam ko bro maraming libro.. tinggal ung iba kasi contradictory sa ibang libro.. ang nagayos ng lahat is ung catholic at protestant.. kaya ung gingamit din ng ibang sekta is galing catholic din.. kaya how come n sinsabi nilang mali ang turo ng mga katoliko.. eh ung binabasehan din nila eh ung katoliko din gumagawa:lol:

Trinity
28th Dec 2007, 21:05
kaya how come n sinsabi nilang mali ang turo ng mga katoliko.. eh ung binabasehan din nila eh ung katoliko din gumagawa

I.clarify ko lang bro Kurabo kasi baka maging basehan na nman ng pagtira nila.
Catholics compiled the Bible, pero hindi ang Katoliko ang nagsulat. Ang Katoliko ang nagpagod at naghirap upang ma.compile ang Bible. Tapos binigyan lamang ng masama at maling kahulugan..

kurabo
28th Dec 2007, 21:09
I.clarify ko lang bro Kurabo kasi baka maging basehan na nman ng pagtira nila.
Catholics compiled the Bible, pero hindi ang Katoliko ang nagsulat. Ang Katoliko ang nagpagod at naghirap upang ma.compile ang Bible. Tapos binigyan lamang ng masama at maling kahulugan..

salamat sa pagtama bro.. tama si trinity.. thanx bro the clarification:thumbsup:

sila rin ang may hawak ng lahat n original scriptures.. kaya for me wala silang karapatan n sabihin mali ang katoliko.. kasi kung sinabi mong mali ang katoliko parang sinabi mo n rin n mali ka.. hehe.. lalo n kung ang basehan nyo p ng kamalian sa bibliya hehe..

-aiah-
28th Dec 2007, 21:16
hmmm... :raisehand: ask ko lng po.. how would we know that the bible says the truth??? wat if it is editted for some personal reasons... diba nga may mga secret socities nuon...

kurabo
28th Dec 2007, 21:19
hmmm... :raisehand: ask ko lng po.. how would we know that the bible says the truth??? wat if it is editted for some personal reasons... diba nga may mga secret socities nuon...


most bible nowadays are already edited kaya hndi mo n malalaman kung ano n ung totoo.. kasi sa ibang bansa bata n lang ang gumagawa ng bibliya.. kaya hndi n sya ganun k reliable.. ang may hawak n lng ng original scriptures ang nakakaalam ng kung ano ang totoo..

-aiah-
28th Dec 2007, 21:20
most bible nowadays are already edited kaya hndi mo n malalaman kung ano n ung totoo.. kasi sa ibang bansa bata n lang ang gumagawa ng bibliya.. kaya hndi n sya ganun k reliable.. ang may hawak n lng ng original scriptures ang nakakaalam ng kung ano ang totoo..

pano po yon???

kurabo
28th Dec 2007, 21:38
pano po yon???


anong pano po yun?.. pano poh b ginawa? un b ang ibig mong sabihin?.. simple lang papapagawa kung kani2 kanino para may mabenta.. pera din kaya un..:lol: sa panahon ngaun kung gus2 mo talaga ng magndang business n sure n bebenta at kikita ng malaki ay ang mga salita ng diyos..:lol: mdali lang gumawa ng mga aral aral.. pede daanin lang kasi un sa sarili mong pangunawa eh.. tpos un n.. un n rin ang paniniwala ng diyos ayon sa naisip nya:lol:

basta sa akin wala sa relihyon yan.. kaya disagree ako sa iba na sila daw ang tama kesyo kung ano ano pa.. pera lang naman lahat ang tema.. basta kung ano ang mga ginagawa mo at pananamplataya m sa kanya dun k nya huhusgahan..

-aiah-
28th Dec 2007, 22:09
wat i mean po... wat wud be the real teaching eh edited na nga ang bible...

langitzu
28th Dec 2007, 22:13
mahirap na malaman kung ano ang totoo... dahil sa dami ng mga iba't ibang interpretasyon nga mga tao at pagbabago sa bibliya..

kurabo
28th Dec 2007, 22:21
wat i mean po... wat wud be the real teaching eh edited na nga ang bible...


for me there is no wrong teaching.. lahat ay tama kasi lahat naman iyon ang tinuturo ay ang kabuthan at salita ng diyos.. kung paano mo ginagawa ang mga salita ng diyos.. sa bible kasi kahit magkakaiba laman iisa lang ibig ipahiwatig nyan..

kaya yung nagsasabi n sila lang ang tama at daan.. kalokohan yun.. kaya kadalsan hndi mo alam kung maawa k n lng o matatawa eh.. dahil ang tama is paano mo ginagawa ang sinasabi ng diyos at hndi ang nagsasabi n sila lang ang tama..

-aiah-
28th Dec 2007, 22:23
so who wud determines the truth??? :noidea:

langitzu
28th Dec 2007, 22:34
GOD.. :noidea:

kurabo
28th Dec 2007, 22:41
so who wud determines the truth??? :noidea:

walang makakapagsabi kung ano ang katotohanan.. ang tanging katotohanan lang ay may Diyos.. walang tama at mali sa paningin ng diyos.. kaya wla ring karapatan ang iba n sabhin n sila lang ang tama at si gan2 ang mali.. dahil kung ganun sila.. parang sinabi n rin nila n mas magaling pa sila sa diyos dahil parang sinasabi nila na sila lang ang may karapatang magsabi n tama sila at ang iba ay wala..

@langitzu

un ang pinakaimportanteng point dun bro.. nakuha mo

nonsense91
29th Dec 2007, 00:04
politically po ang pagbuo ng simbahang katoliko, inde naman po romans ang mga tagasunod ni jesus nuon eh,
you'll know it in history

IMO...

Trinity
29th Dec 2007, 16:05
The original scriptures are in Greek and Aramaic and all of them are in the Archives of the Catholics in Rome. We, the Catholics, translated it to Latin and then when other people gave malicious meanings, it became their CAPITAL for BUSINESS. How shameful! Ang Katoliko ang nagpaka hirap na intindihin ang laman ng Bibilya at isinalain sa ibang linguahe at ang mga oportunista ay ginawa ang kanilang gawain. Hindi lahat ng salita ay tugma kung ito'y isasalin sa ibang language. Kaya't mas matibay pa rin ang pinanghahawakan natin.

Trinity
29th Dec 2007, 16:08
politically po ang pagbuo ng simbahang katoliko, inde naman po romans ang mga tagasunod ni jesus nuon eh,
you'll know it in history

parang hndi mo alam ang sinasabi mo. Lahat ng Christian religions ay galing sa iisang Simbahan at yun ay ang Katoliko.

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jayem
29th Dec 2007, 16:35
i've explained or others already explained it on other thread. eto na nga yung sinasabi ko na magkakagulo na kapag hiwalay ang thread eh.

jayem
29th Dec 2007, 18:05
This is my last post, and so i don't want to belong to a faith that is clearly on the bible is the anti-christ. This is not in behalf of INC which i am a member now, I am standing through the Truthness and Clarity of the Bible, even people that get their knowledge on the bible and the church who gathers the information as what you said, contradict it.

Sorry but this will be my last answer to all your post. You can see links before reply

nonsense91
30th Dec 2007, 00:08
Romans are pagans. The time comes that the Roman Empire collapses because of the rise of Islam preached by Mohammad in the middle east. Most of the followers of Jesus Christ known as Nazarene or people of Nazareth follows the teachings of Islam and some of the Jews also accepted Mohammad's teaching. Those land known as Nazareth, Jerusalem, Babylon inhabitants until this time are followers of Mohammad.

The Jews who didn't follow Mohammad's teaching migrated to the west and their first or primary destination is Rome where they are attached to from the time that Rome is the superpower.

The middle east including the birthplace of Jesus Christ, and all the biblical place are in the land of the followers of Mohammad known today as Muslims.

The rise of Islam is so fast like a river current and the Romans wanted to stop it or limit it. The Jews as the people of the book with the Romans came up with the idea of inventing or promoting a religion that will stop or lessen the rise of Islam. The Roman Catholic Church was formed even at that time they don't have access to the biblical places like Babylon, Mt. Sinai which are still until this time are places where the people are followers of Mohammad...For example, the Jordan River where Jesus Christ was baptized, Jerusalem (Jarrus Salam) Land of Peace. Islam was derived from the word Salam.

As the history goes on...the Jews attached themselves to the superpower countries in Europe including Germany...The Jews wanted to go back to their land and after World War II when Allied wins, the Jews attached themselves to the Allied forces. With the help of the Allied forces specially British and the UN they have managed to capture and steal the lands in the middle east by wars ...then became the birth of Israel in 1967....the only non-Muslim country in the middle east. The Jews attached themselves again to the superpower until this time to the Americans.


The Jews and the Romans became successful in founding the Roman Catholic Church as we can see today...billions of people follows the Christianity from the Roman Catholic.

ayan po.

scion
30th Dec 2007, 08:47
anong pano po yun?.. pano poh b ginawa? un b ang ibig mong sabihin?.. simple lang papapagawa kung kani2 kanino para may mabenta.. pera din kaya un..:lol: sa panahon ngaun kung gus2 mo talaga ng magndang business n sure n bebenta at kikita ng malaki ay ang mga salita ng diyos..:lol: mdali lang gumawa ng mga aral aral.. pede daanin lang kasi un sa sarili mong pangunawa eh.. tpos un n.. un n rin ang paniniwala ng diyos ayon sa naisip nya:lol:

basta sa akin wala sa relihyon yan.. kaya disagree ako sa iba na sila daw ang tama kesyo kung ano ano pa.. pera lang naman lahat ang tema.. basta kung ano ang mga ginagawa mo at pananamplataya m sa kanya dun k nya huhusgahan..

nice try bro...till d end.

godspeed.

babycheche01
16th Jan 2008, 14:07
syempre tao ang nagsulat ng bible but the brain and the author of that is God...:)

cybil_geisha
16th Jan 2008, 17:50
Faith matters. Kung basta-basta ka na lang maniniwala, dahil uso or parang nakakakumbinsi, ewan ko nalang. Deus Caritas Est. -Trinity


ARTICLE
‘Where is that in the Bible?’ Anti-Catholics always ask this to prove Catholic practices are baseless or unbiblical! In order to answer them, we should know the true story about the origin of the Bible! Hundreds of protestant pastors have already come back to Catholic Church just because they studied not only the Bible, but also the great history of the Bible!(please watch ‘Journey Home’ in EWTN channel)

The 'Bible alone' is not the basis of faith
Jesus in His life never mentioned about a Bible. He never commanded us to believe in a book! We cannot see He ordered apostles to write a Book. During the time of apostles there was no Bible at all! Jesus founded, not a book as the basis of faith, but the Church as the “pillar and foundation of the truth” (2 Tim 3.15) and He promised not that book, but He Himself will be with his Church till the end of the age (Mt 28:20) and the Holy Spirit will lead the apostles and the successors in to the’ fullness of truth’ after his ascension to heaven (Jn. 14:16-17). He even said,” If anyone refuses to listen to the church, treat him as if you would a gentile or tax collector”

Tradition and the Bible
In the early centuries, before Bible was formed Christians believed the teaching of the apostles and their disciples, as the basis of their faith, which is knows as “Oral Tradition”. These traditions were not human customs mentioned in Mt. 15: 3, 6 – 9, that were observed by Pharisees, but they were accepted as guided by the Holy Spirit.
In fact, the words such as ‘Bible’, Purgatory, ‘Trinity’, and Assumption are all coming from these early Christian traditions! Later, when the Bible came, it defended those traditions.
2 Thess. 2:15 “So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.”
1 Cor. 11:2 “Now I praise you because you remember me in everything, and hold firmly to the traditions just as I delivered them to you.


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hmmm..ofcourse hindi namention ang "Bible" kasi hindi pa siya ngagawa nung time na un.. and the word "Bible" comes from the Greek word biblos meaning "a book".

"The book [biblos] of the generation of Jesus Christ."(Mt.1:2);

also from biblion, a diminutive form of biblos, meaning "little book".

The Bible also has other names such as..

"the Scripture" --(Mk.12:10, 15:28, Lk.4:21, Jn.2:22,7:38, 10:35, Rom 4:3, Gal.4:30, 2 Pt. 1:20)

"the Scriptures" --(Mt.22:29, Mk.12:24,Lk.24:27,Jn5:39, Acts17:11, Rom. 1:2, 1 Cor 15:3,4, 2Tm. 3:15, 2 Pt 3:16)

These terms signify "Holy writings". Once Paul uses "the holy scriptures" (Rom. 1:2) and once "the sacred writings" (2Tm3:15 RSV), and once "the oracles of God" (Rom 3:2). One of the most descriptive and satisfying name is "The Word of God" (Mk.7:13, Rom. 10:17, 2Cor.2:17,1 Thes. 2:13, Heb. 4:12.)

:)

jayem
16th Jan 2008, 18:13
:thumbsup:

Trinity
16th Jan 2008, 18:32
hmmm..ofcourse hindi namention ang "Bible" kasi hindi pa siya ngagawa nung time na un.. and the word "Bible" comes from the Greek word biblos meaning "a book".

"The book [biblos] of the generation of Jesus Christ."(Mt.1:2);

also from biblion, a diminutive form of biblos, meaning "little book".

The Bible also has other names such as..

"the Scripture" --(Mk.12:10, 15:28, Lk.4:21, Jn.2:22,7:38, 10:35, Rom 4:3, Gal.4:30, 2 Pt. 1:20)

"the Scriptures" --(Mt.22:29, Mk.12:24,Lk.24:27,Jn5:39, Acts17:11, Rom. 1:2, 1 Cor 15:3,4, 2Tm. 3:15, 2 Pt 3:16)

These terms signify "Holy writings". Once Paul uses "the holy scriptures" (Rom. 1:2) and once "the sacred writings" (2Tm3:15 RSV), and once "the oracles of God" (Rom 3:2). One of the most descriptive and satisfying name is "The Word of God" (Mk.7:13, Rom. 10:17, 2Cor.2:17,1 Thes. 2:13, Heb. 4:12.)


So, agree ka na kung wlang Simbahan(Catholic) wla rin ang Bible?

Battosai
16th Jan 2008, 19:27
Greetings!

Kindly visit the Symbianize Theology Thread, I think mas appropriate doon yung discussions nyo. :) Hope to see you there! Para neutral, "May a Higher Being bless you!" :D

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cybil_geisha
16th Jan 2008, 22:56
So, agree ka na kung wlang Simbahan(Catholic) wla rin ang Bible?

hindi poh..i dont agree with that, coz the Word of God would still remain.. :)

ferofax
17th Jan 2008, 02:59
...ah, masalimuot na topic to. ang Bibliya ng mga kristiyano. sobrang edited na yan eh. pano yung mga apocrypha saka ung mga deuterocanonicals?? ung mga tinanggal sa bibliya? diba tinanggal sila dahil contradictory sila sa ibang mga parte ng bibliya? eh pano kaya sila naging "contradictory", kung lahat sila eh "divinely inspired"? i think somewhere along the way, somebody wrote something that is probably biased. now, im not sure which is which, but chances are some will be wrong and some will be right, hence the contradictions. i dont know about you, pero ako i dont trust something that contradicts itself.

sa dagdag bawas pa lang, very suspicious na eh. why would a book so holy, leave other parts out? ive read somewhere that those people who decided which books to include in the bible decided to exclude those books that depicts Jesus as "merely human" and not "holy". now, why is that? they dont want people questioning the divinity of Jesus? hmm...

stuff to ponder on.

kurabo
17th Jan 2008, 07:13
...ah, masalimuot na topic to. ang Bibliya ng mga kristiyano. sobrang edited na yan eh. pano yung mga apocrypha saka ung mga deuterocanonicals?? ung mga tinanggal sa bibliya? diba tinanggal sila dahil contradictory sila sa ibang mga parte ng bibliya? eh pano kaya sila naging "contradictory", kung lahat sila eh "divinely inspired"? i think somewhere along the way, somebody wrote something that is probably biased. now, im not sure which is which, but chances are some will be wrong and some will be right, hence the contradictions. i dont know about you, pero ako i dont trust something that contradicts itself.

sa dagdag bawas pa lang, very suspicious na eh. why would a book so holy, leave other parts out? ive read somewhere that those people who decided which books to include in the bible decided to exclude those books that depicts Jesus as "merely human" and not "holy". now, why is that? they dont want people questioning the divinity of Jesus? hmm...

stuff to ponder on.


correct.. un talaga ang dahilan kung bakit pili lang ang mga sinama.. kung ngaun p lng pinagtatalunan n dahil lang sa may nakasulat s bibliya how much more kung lumabas p un.. bka nagkawindang windang n sila sa kanya kanyang ineerpretation at baka lalo png dadami ang mga sekta:lol:

cybil_geisha
17th Jan 2008, 11:58
...ah, masalimuot na topic to. ang Bibliya ng mga kristiyano. sobrang edited na yan eh. pano yung mga apocrypha saka ung mga deuterocanonicals?? ung mga tinanggal sa bibliya? diba tinanggal sila dahil contradictory sila sa ibang mga parte ng bibliya? eh pano kaya sila naging "contradictory", kung lahat sila eh "divinely inspired"? i think somewhere along the way, somebody wrote something that is probably biased. now, im not sure which is which, but chances are some will be wrong and some will be right, hence the contradictions. i dont know about you, pero ako i dont trust something that contradicts itself.

sa dagdag bawas pa lang, very suspicious na eh. why would a book so holy, leave other parts out? ive read somewhere that those people who decided which books to include in the bible decided to exclude those books that depicts Jesus as "merely human" and not "holy". now, why is that? they dont want people questioning the divinity of Jesus? hmm...

stuff to ponder on.

hmm..ofcourse nung time na un eh marami din kasing naglabasan na writings na hindi naman totoo...pero kc ang Bible ay hindi pwede mag contradict sa sarili nia, kaya ang mga piniling buks ay mga "inspired by the Holy Spirit" daw.. now part dun sa mga tinanggal ay ung writings about dun sa belief sa mga patay, dahil ito ay nagcocontradict sa mga sinasabi ng Bible, since ung mga Catholics may belief ng ganun,, kea sinama nila sa Bible nila... :)

Trinity
17th Jan 2008, 12:33
since ung mga Catholics may belief ng ganun,, kea sinama nila sa Bible nila...

So, respecting the dead is bad?

cybil_geisha
17th Jan 2008, 12:43
So, respecting the dead is bad?

no, please don't get me wrong, i didn't say respecting the dead is bad, but i think may mas malalim pa kayong belief and traditions regarding that matter other than respecting the dead.. :)

ferofax
17th Jan 2008, 18:45
...whoopsie. i see fingers pointing, and theyre not pointing my way. lolololol... :lol:

by the way, just a question. nung time na pinagtatalunan kung anong mga gospels ang isasama at ano ang hindi, sino nagdecide dun? diba mga tao lang din? who can say kung sino sa mga yun ang biased at sino ang hindi? not all "holy men" are holy, that's for sure. oh they try, but they make mistakes too. and sometimes, they make really big boo-boos. and who's to say kung peke o totoo ang isang gospel base sa nasusulat dito? again, humans do. they're the ones that decide which one fits and which ones doesnt.


hmm..ofcourse nung time na un eh marami din kasing naglabasan na writings na hindi naman totoo...pero kc ang Bible ay hindi pwede mag contradict sa sarili nia, kaya ang mga piniling buks ay mga "inspired by the Holy Spirit" daw.. now part dun sa mga tinanggal ay ung writings about dun sa belief sa mga patay, dahil ito ay nagcocontradict sa mga sinasabi ng Bible, since ung mga Catholics may belief ng ganun,, kea sinama nila sa Bible nila...

bakit hindi pede i-contradict ng bible (or any other book for that matter) ang sarili nya? because this will undermine the book's authenticity/authority/what-nots. in the first place, there aint supposed to be a bible, just a collection of gospels. if they left it at that, things would have been much simpler. now if those gospels were just that, a collection of gospels, then contradictions wouldnt have been such a big deal, since they would be pretty separate gospels written by different people under different conditions or reasons. they compiled it all into one book, that's where the differences kick in. that's where people start asking questions, people start having doubts. for something so holy, they did a pretty bad job at it.

compared to the Qur'an or the Kabbalah, the integrity of the christian bible is at most, pretty shoddy.


no, please don't get me wrong, i didn't say respecting the dead is bad, but i think may mas malalim pa kayong belief and traditions regarding that matter other than respecting the dead..
...more implications. and what might those implications be? hmm...

more stuff to ponder. i love playing the devil's advocate. gahaha.

cybil_geisha
17th Jan 2008, 18:59
...whoopsie. i see fingers pointing, and theyre not pointing my way. lolololol... :lol:

by the way, just a question. nung time na pinagtatalunan kung anong mga gospels ang isasama at ano ang hindi, sino nagdecide dun? diba mga tao lang din? who can say kung sino sa mga yun ang biased at sino ang hindi? not all "holy men" are holy, that's for sure. oh they try, but they make mistakes too. and sometimes, they make really big boo-boos. and who's to say kung peke o totoo ang isang gospel base sa nasusulat dito? again, humans do. they're the ones that decide which one fits and which ones doesnt.


...more implications. and what might those implications be? hmm...

more stuff to ponder. i love playing the devil's advocate. gahaha.

implications.. implications.. :lol: ferofax ah... ;)

ferofax
17th Jan 2008, 19:31
:reading::noidea:...ha? ako ba un? :D:quiet:

lordikon
18th Jan 2008, 16:55
this is actually form a history, but there is one group way way back who hide these scriptures for their own sake, ayaw kasi nila mapulaan. pero i don't want to point my fingers, baka manuno ako. pero if you will research old books makikita niyo who are these people behind.

renecelmillare
19th Jan 2013, 22:05
[/B]Cno ang ngsulat ng Bible?
mga friends.. e2 ang sagot..

wala po mali sa bible e2 po proof..
2Timothy 3:16 Everything in the Scriptures is God's Word. All of it is useful for teaching and helping people and for correcting them and showing them how to live.
17 The Scriptures train God's servants to do all kinds of good deeds.

isinulat po ng mga apostol at propeta ang bible sa tulong po ng Diyos, bale ginamit po ng Diyos ang tao para maintindihan ntin sya. ImAgine if God will speak to us in non human language, maiintindihan kya ntin Sya? Kya po nsulat ang Bible pra po mairevel ng Diyos ang sarili Niya sa atin, marami po kc na d naniniwala sa Kanya.

Un po, maraming salamat po, God bless u all guys...:thumbsup:

billy08
20th Jan 2013, 19:22
first religion is judaism, then dumating si jeeezas... kinopya ang torah ng judaism....... si emperor constatine ang bumuo ng group para ;pagpiliin ang mga acient manuscript ayon sa gusto nilang kwento......

maraming mali ang bible kung inyo lang nalalaman........

dhanzboy
20th Jan 2013, 20:20
[/B]Cno ang ngsulat ng Bible?
mga friends.. e2 ang sagot..

wala po mali sa bible e2 po proof..
2Timothy 3:16 Everything in the Scriptures is God's Word. All of it is useful for teaching and helping people and for correcting them and showing them how to live.
17 The Scriptures train God's servants to do all kinds of good deeds.

isinulat po ng mga apostol at propeta ang bible sa tulong po ng Diyos, bale ginamit po ng Diyos ang tao para maintindihan ntin sya. ImAgine if God will speak to us in non human language, maiintindihan kya ntin Sya? Kya po nsulat ang Bible pra po mairevel ng Diyos ang sarili Niya sa atin, marami po kc na d naniniwala sa Kanya.

Un po, maraming salamat po, God bless u all guys...:thumbsup:

galing ah.....
hanap natin kung sino ang nagsulat ng bible tapos ang sagot mo verses din sa bible. :slap::slap::slap:

blackstein
20th Jan 2013, 20:34
[/B]Cno ang ngsulat ng Bible?
mga friends.. e2 ang sagot..

wala po mali sa bible e2 po proof..
2Timothy 3:16 Everything in the Scriptures is God's Word. All of it is useful for teaching and helping people and for correcting them and showing them how to live.
17 The Scriptures train God's servants to do all kinds of good deeds.

isinulat po ng mga apostol at propeta ang bible sa tulong po ng Diyos, bale ginamit po ng Diyos ang tao para maintindihan ntin sya. ImAgine if God will speak to us in non human language, maiintindihan kya ntin Sya? Kya po nsulat ang Bible pra po mairevel ng Diyos ang sarili Niya sa atin, marami po kc na d naniniwala sa Kanya.

Un po, maraming salamat po, God bless u all guys...:thumbsup:


"The Scriptures train God's servants to do all kinds of good deeds."
this includes making up stories..
jeezas krays..

anyone can make a bible nowadays :slap:

ronell10
21st Jan 2013, 16:43
wat i mean po... wat wud be the real teaching eh edited na nga ang bible...

teaching based on the desire of a religion :)

ituturo yung magsusupport sa claim nila na they are the true religion :)

sam_wel
21st Jan 2013, 17:15
"The Scriptures train God's servants to do all kinds of good deeds."
this includes making up stories..
jeezas krays..

anyone can make a bible nowadays :slap:

i will be glad to read the bible you'll make.

clifford6ngr
23rd Jan 2013, 00:05
"The Scriptures train God's servants to do all kinds of good deeds."
this includes making up stories..
jeezas krays..

anyone can make a bible nowadays :slap:
i will be glad to read the bible you'll make.

Will you believe that newly made bible as much as you believe the old one?
I will be glad to know why and why not.. :)

BolJon
28th Jan 2013, 10:49
The publishing company?

ZENBUNSAKURA
28th Jan 2013, 12:07
Most part of the old testament Actually first written in hebrew,upon scrolls or rolls of parchment,linen or papyrus,. No one knows. .To me ofcourse apostols made them.,

luciferhalfangel
28th Jan 2013, 12:57
the bible itself no authenticity if the author bible is the apostols so why they forget to afixed their signature for veracity of their work during compilation of the bible or even chapter of old manuscript of bible no signature of prophet is noted

sineteta
28th Jan 2013, 14:29
walang mkksagot ng tama sa tanong na yan ts. example nasulat yan ni juan after that namatay na sya nakuha ni pedro..ito ang tanong sigurado ka ba na ndi pinalitan ni pedro ang ibang nkasulat dun or nkalagay? syempre ndi diba? dahil ngayon lang tayo nabuhay at sinusunod na lang natin ang nakasulat pero yan ay mali isang napka laking mali kung susundin ang bibliya. ito pa ang example kung yang bibliya na yan ay sinulatan or pinalitan ng mga salitang, legal ang pumatay at mag rape, mg rape ay dakilang gawain, magnakaw ay legal na trabaho syempre tayong mga tao ngayon susundin natin yan diba dahil bibliya yan at ndi natin alam na napalitan pala ang mga nakasulat..kya wag kayo maniniwala sa bibliya dahil ndi nyo alam kung anu tlaga ang totoong laman nyan nung unang ginawa puro revise na lang yan pra pg kakitaan ng mga relihiyon. tandaan walang buhay na tao ang nakakita ng gnwa ang bibliya kya lahat ng nakasulat walang patunay.

ZENBUNSAKURA
28th Jan 2013, 14:52
Ayan me nakaintindi rin, . Some books in the bible are not written by prophets themselves but someone who knew them, .

SmartBroadBrain
28th Jan 2013, 14:56
Faith matters. Kung basta-basta ka na lang maniniwala, dahil uso or parang nakakakumbinsi, ewan ko nalang. Deus Caritas Est. -Trinity


ARTICLE
‘Where is that in the Bible?’ Anti-Catholics always ask this to prove Catholic practices are baseless or unbiblical! In order to answer them, we should know the true story about the origin of the Bible! Hundreds of protestant pastors have already come back to Catholic Church just because they studied not only the Bible, but also the great history of the Bible!(please watch ‘Journey Home’ in EWTN channel)

The 'Bible alone' is not the basis of faith
Jesus in His life never mentioned about a Bible. He never commanded us to believe in a book! We cannot see He ordered apostles to write a Book. During the time of apostles there was no Bible at all! Jesus founded, not a book as the basis of faith, but the Church as the “pillar and foundation of the truth” (2 Tim 3.15) and He promised not that book, but He Himself will be with his Church till the end of the age (Mt 28:20) and the Holy Spirit will lead the apostles and the successors in to the’ fullness of truth’ after his ascension to heaven (Jn. 14:16-17). He even said,” If anyone refuses to listen to the church, treat him as if you would a gentile or tax collector”

Tradition and the Bible
In the early centuries, before Bible was formed Christians believed the teaching of the apostles and their disciples, as the basis of their faith, which is knows as “Oral Tradition”. These traditions were not human customs mentioned in Mt. 15: 3, 6 – 9, that were observed by Pharisees, but they were accepted as guided by the Holy Spirit.
In fact, the words such as ‘Bible’, Purgatory, ‘Trinity’, and Assumption are all coming from these early Christian traditions! Later, when the Bible came, it defended those traditions.
2 Thess. 2:15 “So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.”
1 Cor. 11:2 “Now I praise you because you remember me in everything, and hold firmly to the traditions just as I delivered them to you.


Read WHOLE ARTICLE:
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bat ba interasado ka? papa autograph ka? :dance:

luciferhalfangel
28th Jan 2013, 16:23
im just asking their signature if they have ,so we can prove the veracity of their work ,so maybe the god too forget to request his apostol ,or prophet to put their spicimen signature for genuiness of the bible,oh what kind of god ,absent minded

sineteta
28th Jan 2013, 21:56
tigilan nyo na yan..walang tama sa mga sinasabi nyo puro lang tayo mga tau tauhan ng mga relihiyon natin..kya kung aq sa inyo mas mgnda pa na gumawa ka ng sarili mung paniniwala at dasal tungkol sa pgtwag sa knya.

luciferhalfangel
28th Jan 2013, 23:16
ayos ah ,one of old practice of human being is copulation older than reading of old manuscript the bible

snapshaq1823
29th Jan 2013, 15:39
cno ang gumawa sa bible ? kung susuriin ntin ang dios ama ang ngpgwa ng bible na ipinasulat sa mga apostol lahat ng nasaksihan ng mga apostol mula sa dios ama hangang anak at sa mga pagpapakita ng dios mula nung umakyatsiya sa langit ang biblia ay hindi mgkakontradict dahil ito ay salita ng dios.

billy08
29th Jan 2013, 16:54
cno ang gumawa sa bible ? kung susuriin ntin ang dios ama ang ngpgwa ng bible na ipinasulat sa mga apostol lahat ng nasaksihan ng mga apostol mula sa dios ama hangang anak at sa mga pagpapakita ng dios mula nung umakyatsiya sa langit ang biblia ay hindi mgkakontradict dahil ito ay salita ng dios.

Are you sure?

ronell10
29th Jan 2013, 16:58
god created everything...

except bible :lol:

a powerful god can't write his own story, nice.

billy08
29th Jan 2013, 17:58
Yan ang problema ng bible god.... Tamad...... Hinayaan yung mga believers nya gumawa ng libro nya kaya ang daming mali..........

ronell10
30th Jan 2013, 09:36
^
korek! if he is powerful, dapat kaya nyang gumawa ng libro kung saan hindi eto pwede baguhin, sirain etc.

pero wala, di nya kaya :lol:

pcruztemp
30th Jan 2013, 10:18
matthew 27 relates what is essentially a zombie invasion of jerusalem, although they didnt go around eating brains they were seen by many

jerusalem was full of natives and what we would now call tourists, visiting businessmen, OCWs, diplomats and peacekeeping soldiers. but no one not even the other 3 evangelists bothered to write anything about the zombies

weez07
30th Jan 2013, 12:12
guys respect nalang naten ung isat isa ganyan ba yung mga natututunan nyo sa mga religions nyo? you cant change their beliefs. Respect lang guys yun lang ang natatanging at nag iisang solution para magkaunawaan tayo

sineteta
30th Jan 2013, 13:37
puro kayo ng babase sa verse ng mathew or apostol or jhon palagi yan ang sinasagot nyo sa mga tanong pero mali ang mga yan..walang nakakita o video man lang na patunay na original pa ang laman ng bible kya wag kayo mga tanga mg isip kayo my mga isip kayo. ginawa yan nuon oo sa mabuti dahil pero ngayon binago na yan ng mga relihiyon inedit para pg kaperahan o pang gatso o pang lamang o hanap buhay ng mga pesteng my dalang bibliya pero ndi nmn santo. kaya kung maniniwala ka sa bibliya kumuha ka muna ng patunay na original pa ba yang bbsahin o binabasa o binasa mu? ITO LANG ANG TANONG SINO ANG NAKAKITA SA NGSULAT NG BIBLIYA AT NASAN SYA NGAYON? IKW HALIMBAWA KAHIT NKITA MU NA SINULAT ANG BIBLIYA NDI MU MLLMAN NA BINAGO NG MGA TAO TO DAHIL NDI MU NMN KABISADO! WALANG MATINONG SAGOT SA TANONG NA TO!

wolfreon
30th Jan 2013, 13:59
Si Chuck Norris.

braiylesaguiguit
30th Jan 2013, 14:12
bakit kailangan na magtanung kung hindi ka naniniwala sa bible ?
ginawa ang bible para sa mga believers until the day of judgement .

concluding your own faith is worst of all trust in yourself? hindi mo nga alam pano ka naging tao at saan ka mapupunta pagkamatay mo?

try nio panuorin ang debate between bro. eli soriano and gerome almodovar an atheist ..

help yourself habang nahinga ka pa :noidea::noidea:

billy08
30th Jan 2013, 16:29
^are you ADD? How you so sure na nasa tama ang kinalalagyan mo?

I exist because of my parents...... At pag na tigok ako..... Maiiwan ko magagandang alaala sa naiwan kong family.... And i dont expect after death para gumawa lang ng mabuti....

noel1825
30th Jan 2013, 19:55
kung baga alam nyo na na mali e nagbubulag bulagan na lang kayo. .samantala binigyan tayo ng diyos ng freedom to find the truth,dahil nga sa dumarami na ang bulahang propeta, kanya kanyang tayo ng relihiy0n para kumita ng pera. .its your ch0ice naman. .wag lang sana tayo abutin ng kamatayan sa pananatili sa maling relihiyon sapagkat nagbabala ang panginuon sa sinu man hindi sumun0d sa mga salita at utos nya ay itatap0n nya sa dagatdagatang apoy. . .

weez07
31st Jan 2013, 00:27
ayan na tayo dumating na yung kanya kanyang religion, para naman tayong mga bata yan, kanya kanya paniniwala.
mga batang nagtatanong kung totoo ba ang itlog ay galing sa manok viceversa. Paulit ulit ulit.
cge mga bata, ano nga ba paniniwalaan nyo mga theory nyo or yung book mismo, na twing linggo lng nyo naririnig?
Respeto naman kayo, hndi na kayo nahiya sa mga pinagsasabi nyo bible pag aawayan nyo pa. Mga bata nga naman talaga oh oh.

odontect28
31st Jan 2013, 00:56
wag na tayo mag away hehe, irespeto na lang ang paniniwala ng bawat isa,

tansymb
31st Jan 2013, 01:00
tips ko sa inyo manuod kayo kay Eli Soriano hindi ako ADD
dati pumasok din sa isip ko yan sempre me mga tanong ka
nakita nyo mga mag tatanong sinasagot nya talaga thru biblical speaking.

at sa debate dati nakanood ako sa mga aral na qnquestion ni ELi soriano
ex. mga aral ng born again nakikipag debate sya makikita mo talaga na napapahiya
yung kalaban nya.

hehe ako pa simple lang manuod basta ako lang mag isa
hindi din ako nag ssimba. dota lang ako tapos pag walang pera lolodan ko lng tong smartbro tambay lang ako dito sa symb.

my reason kung bakit naiba ang paniniwala at pagpapaliwanag
totoo po yung bible dahil yan din kung bakit me knikilala tayong diyos.ok? haha

just FB :)

Dragon30
31st Jan 2013, 05:17
ako kwento ko lang debate namin sa nakasama ko sa w0rk,cristian siya malaki tlga pananalig nya ky jesus,ako naman kay alLAH 'SWS' Nang sbhin ko sa kanya kulang pa tlga pinaniniwalaan m0, nagalit siya agad at sinabi sa akin,bakit yan ba pinapaniwalaan m0 sinabi ba nya panu gumawa ng Pandisal, sabi ko relax lng brad ok panalo kana hehehe.
Relax,sabi ko nman bakit napunta tyo sa pandisal e nasa paniniwala tyo,itanung m0 sa panadero.hehehe
Sinag0t ku rin ang tanung nya ay0n sa paniniwala ng aming religi0n, 'pag aralan mo para matutunan m0.
Kaya pag aralan mo sa panadero para matutunan m0.
Mga walang diy0s diyan,humahanap na kayo ng diy0s nyo. Hehehe

Dragon30
31st Jan 2013, 05:19
my # sayo si eli soriano ? Kami ang mgdebate.hehehe

billy08
31st Jan 2013, 09:35
tips ko sa inyo manuod kayo kay Eli Soriano hindi ako ADD
dati pumasok din sa isip ko yan sempre me mga tanong ka
nakita nyo mga mag tatanong sinasagot nya talaga thru biblical speaking.

at sa debate dati nakanood ako sa mga aral na qnquestion ni ELi soriano
ex. mga aral ng born again nakikipag debate sya makikita mo talaga na napapahiya
yung kalaban nya.

hehe ako pa simple lang manuod basta ako lang mag isa
hindi din ako nag ssimba. dota lang ako tapos pag walang pera lolodan ko lng tong smartbro tambay lang ako dito sa symb.

my reason kung bakit naiba ang paniniwala at pagpapaliwanag
totoo po yung bible dahil yan din kung bakit me knikilala tayong diyos.ok? haha

just FB :)

Inuuto lang kayo ni soriano........... Lahat ng relihion me kitaan.......

Bible is just only a myth...

tansymb
31st Jan 2013, 10:15
Inuuto lang kayo ni soriano........... Lahat ng relihion me kitaan.......

Bible is just only a myth...

sir hindi ako ADD sa tingin ko mag masid ka makinig ka dati iniisip ko wala din yang soriano same as other na nanga ngaral.pero san ka makaka kita ng me mag tatanong kahit ano tapos sasagutin sa bible dba?

madami din ako gstong mlman e.


hindi yan mggwa ng ibang religion pag meron papainum ako
hindi ako ADD kahit tropahin moko.

hehe Bible is just only a myth?
prang cnbi mo d totoo ang diyos kase hindi mpa nakikita.

loloytisoy
31st Jan 2013, 16:18
Men made the Bible but they were inspired by the Holy Ghost

zaards
31st Jan 2013, 16:30
God itslf po. thru The Holy Spirit.

Wijiboi
31st Jan 2013, 16:30
Men made the Bible but they were inspired by the Holy Ghost

agree. kung babasahin mo naman bible wala naman syang itinuturo na ikapapahamak mo.

weez07
1st Feb 2013, 10:50
false doctrines.

ronell10
1st Feb 2013, 11:52
sir hindi ako ADD sa tingin ko mag masid ka makinig ka dati iniisip ko wala din yang soriano same as other na nanga ngaral.pero san ka makaka kita ng me mag tatanong kahit ano tapos sasagutin sa bible dba?

madami din ako gstong mlman e.


hindi yan mggwa ng ibang religion pag meron papainum ako
hindi ako ADD kahit tropahin moko.

hehe Bible is just only a myth?
prang cnbi mo d totoo ang diyos kase hindi mpa nakikita.

nakita mo na ba sya?

pcruztemp
1st Feb 2013, 15:08
agree. kung babasahin mo naman bible wala naman syang itinuturo na ikapapahamak mo.

even if that was true, that doesnt really prove that the bible is true

pcruztemp
4th Feb 2013, 19:26
Strange but True Bible Facts

Did you know:

that King David swore like a sailor?
that the Book of Ecclesiastes encourages drinking, especially beer?
that mandrakes were the biblical equivalent of Viagra®?
that the law of Moses prescribes bikini waxing?
that Joseph's "coat of many colors" might have actually been a dress?
that Eve might have been created, not from Adam's rib, but from something a little lower down?

Discover all this, and more, in The Uncensored Bible.


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braiylesaguiguit
7th Feb 2013, 16:09
wala naman pilitan kung manunuod kau o hindi.
nagpapa alala lng kmi na sana ngkaroon kau ng Dios.
Siguro nga mas maniniwala ako sa Bible kc nauna xa kaysa kay Charles Darwin.if scientific basis gusto nio

pagdating ng paglubog ng araw sa inio sana maalala nio kme na nagpapa alala

Read this verse

Proverbs 1:24-31

1:24 Sapagka't ako'y tumawag, at kayo'y tumanggi: aking iniunat ang aking kamay, at walang makinig;

Kundi inyong iniuwi sa wala ang buo kong payo, at hindi ninyo inibig ang aking saway:
Ako naman ay tatawa sa kaarawan ng inyong kasakunaan:
ako'y manunuya pagka ang inyong takot ay dumarating;

Pagka ang iyong takot ay dumarating na parang bagyo. At ang inyong kasakunaan ay dumarating na parang ipoipo; pagka ang hirap at hapis ay dumating sa inyo.

Kung magkagayo'y tatawag sila sa akin, nguni't hindi ako sasagot; hahanapin nila akong masikap, nguni't hindi nila ako masusumpungan:

Sapagka't kanilang ipinagtanim ang kaalaman, at hindi pinili ang takot sa Panginoon.

Ayaw sila ng aking payo; kanilang hinamak ang buo kong pagsaway:

Kaya't sila'y magsisikain ng bunga ng kanilang sariling lakad, at mabubusog ng kanilang sariling mga kagagawan.

ronell10
7th Feb 2013, 16:34
meron naman mas nauna pa sa bible, kung patandaan lang ang labanan :)

oynomed27
7th Feb 2013, 16:45
Bible alone is not the basis of faith?

then why are they using some verses from the Bible to justify their claims?

it is true that Jesus did not founded the bible, because God
(The Father) is the one who told the apostles to write the bible.

the only question today is where can we find the original and unedited version of the Bible...

and for those who insist that the Roman Catholic is the right religion, I suggest that you read the bible, then see if they are really doing the things that is written in the bible...

I not against Roman Catholic, but don't brag about something that you can't even defend, if you were questioned...

It is clearly stated in the bible that no one should pray or worship statues or pictures of their so called God..

no has ever seen god or Jesus...

braiylesaguiguit
7th Feb 2013, 20:12
para akong naghulog nang perlas sa gitna ng baboy..tsk.

3sword
7th Feb 2013, 20:40
para akong naghulog nang perlas sa gitna ng baboy..tsk.

Pano mo nasabi na perlas hinulog mo? In the eyes of atheist it is junk!

For your info, many atheist here came from theist maybe we know the bible more than you....

Try us.....

dhanzboy
7th Feb 2013, 21:05
in the eyes of an atheist the bible is junk and that's for sure.
we all know that the roman catholics compiled the books into bible. the good question here now is " where is the original texts or manuscripts of the bible?"

the vatican don't have the original manuscripts nor the first copies of the manuscripts or even the 3rd copies of the manuscripts. all they have are copies from copies from copies from copies from copies of copy. if the vatican don't have the originals, how can catholic christians say that the bible they believe is true when they cannot compare its texts to the originals.

ronell10
8th Feb 2013, 09:21
akala ng ibang theist kasi, once they provide verses from bible, ok na yun, yun na ang totoo :(

if it is not supported by a hard evidence, baka fiction lang ang labas ng story ng bible...

like any other books, mukhang totoo pero hindi pla.

braiylesaguiguit
8th Feb 2013, 20:23
Makipag-debate ka kay Bro.Eli Soriano. kung kaya mo.
Siguro masyado ka na ngang matalino para sa kanya like you said.
try mo makipagdebate o baka naman scared ka kaya dito mo nalang pinaglalaban yang paniniwala mo?
and naniniwala kayo kasi sabi nio "to see is to believe"

may utak ba kau?

3sword
8th Feb 2013, 21:18
Makipag-debate ka kay Bro.Eli Soriano. kung kaya mo.
Siguro masyado ka na ngang matalino para sa kanya like you said.
try mo makipagdebate o baka naman scared ka kaya dito mo nalang pinaglalaban yang paniniwala mo?
and naniniwala kayo kasi sabi nio "to see is to believe"

may utak ba kau?

Poor argument... Are you ADD member? For your info muntik narin ako mabola nyan? Bilib kalang sa kanya kasi kabisado nya bible... And he do its own interpritation gaya ng ibang mga kulto na kaparehas nya...

Study the history of your bible, not depend on the biad preacher like soriano or manalo. Even bible scholars master the verses of bible did you know that?

Ano ba sa tingin mo ang basehan ng ADD bakit sila naniniwla sa bible?

Me utak ako no need to open. Theres is already medical instrument to prove that you have brain using XRAY and MRI

dhanzboy
9th Feb 2013, 11:30
Makipag-debate ka kay Bro.Eli Soriano. kung kaya mo.
Siguro masyado ka na ngang matalino para sa kanya like you said.
try mo makipagdebate o baka naman scared ka kaya dito mo nalang pinaglalaban yang paniniwala mo?
and naniniwala kayo kasi sabi nio "to see is to believe"

may utak ba kau?

it is easy to say that. nagbibigay ka ng hamon sa amin pero baka pag ikaw ang binigyan ng kondisyon para sa hamon mo ay baka umayaw ka?
I myself can have a debate with your beloved religious leader maski hindi ako magaling, pero alam kong maibibigay ko ang lahat ng nalalaman ko sa kanya. but the question is, kaya mo ba syang iharap sa amin para makipagdebate? ikaw na mismo ang may sabi na kay soriano, puwes, iharap mo sya sa amin para makipagdebate. baka sabihin mo kami ang maghanap sa kanya para makipagdebate? kung may paniniwala ka, matutunan mo sanang pangatawanan ang iyong paniniwala at wag kang magtago sa likod ng ibang tao para ipagtanggol ka.

aliester
10th Feb 2013, 11:49
wala naman pilitan kung manunuod kau o hindi.
nagpapa alala lng kmi na sana ngkaroon kau ng Dios.

ano ba advantage pag may diyos ka, at sinong diyos ang pipiliin namin diyos mo o diyos ng ibang religion?
isang diyos o madaming diyos? bakit kami sasali sa inyo kung kayo kayo hindi magkasundo at nagpapatayan
pa sa ngalan ng diyos nyo.. may pagkakaisa ba sa inyo? meron bang atheists nagpatayan sa ngalan ng wala
nilang paniniwala? wag nyo na kaming isali kayo kayo na lang magpatayan:lol:


Siguro nga mas maniniwala ako sa Bible kc nauna xa kaysa kay Charles Darwin.if scientific basis gusto nio

saan mo nakita sa biology book na included ang creation sa genesis? :lol: ang meron sa biology book ay
evolution ni darwin dahil science yun ang creation story sa genesis ay sa bible lang makikita kahit sa
federal court ng US hindi umubra ang plano nyong gawing scientific theory ang genesis creation o maituro
man lang sa science class, ang evolution itinuturo sa science class at included sa biology books :p wake up!



pagdating ng paglubog ng araw sa inio sana maalala nio kme na nagpapa alala

Read this verse

Proverbs 1:24-31

1:24 Sapagka't ako'y tumawag, at kayo'y tumanggi: aking iniunat ang aking kamay, at walang makinig;

Kundi inyong iniuwi sa wala ang buo kong payo, at hindi ninyo inibig ang aking saway:
Ako naman ay tatawa sa kaarawan ng inyong kasakunaan:
ako'y manunuya pagka ang inyong takot ay dumarating;

Pagka ang iyong takot ay dumarating na parang bagyo. At ang inyong kasakunaan ay dumarating na parang ipoipo; pagka ang hirap at hapis ay dumating sa inyo.

Kung magkagayo'y tatawag sila sa akin, nguni't hindi ako sasagot; hahanapin nila akong masikap, nguni't hindi nila ako masusumpungan:

Sapagka't kanilang ipinagtanim ang kaalaman, at hindi pinili ang takot sa Panginoon.

Ayaw sila ng aking payo; kanilang hinamak ang buo kong pagsaway:

Kaya't sila'y magsisikain ng bunga ng kanilang sariling lakad, at mabubusog ng kanilang sariling mga kagagawan.

see.. kung kanino nagmana ng violence ang religion? eh grabe naman palang kasama ang all-loving god nyo,
kung ako isang ama hindi ko gagawin sa mga anak ko ang mga nasa passage na yan. dahil sa hindi lang sila
sumusunod ay pangangaralan ko sila o kung hindi pa rin sila susunod ay hindi ako hahantong na sasaktan o
papababayaan ko sila dahil mahal ko sila...

braiylesaguiguit
11th Feb 2013, 15:22
ang napapala nang mga walang bait sa sarili haha..
d ako ADD, tantrums mo nlng yan kung gusto mo talaga sya makaharap kaw mismo pu2nta the easiest way.. haha . baka nman nagpapalusot lang kayo scared talga? haha

kung ako nasandal sa magaling na preacher kayo naman nakatago lang sa loob ng bahay niyo..
cguro mas nakakatawa un dba?


sagutin mo nalng kung kaya mo o hindi. wag kana magtantrums. matalino ka di ba? patunayan mo sa buong mundo kung kaya mo lng naman exposure mo pa diba?:beat:

pROAddictus
12th Feb 2013, 11:20
Makipag-debate ka kay Bro.Eli Soriano. kung kaya mo.
Siguro masyado ka na ngang matalino para sa kanya like you said.
try mo makipagdebate o baka naman scared ka kaya dito mo nalang pinaglalaban yang paniniwala mo?
and naniniwala kayo kasi sabi nio "to see is to believe"

may utak ba kau?

Bibliya din naman ang basehan ni Bro Eli e, di ba nga JUNK yan, ang basehan nya, so walang debate mangyayari jan...

Di ba nga athiest believes that the bible is a useless piece of trash...

Anything written is nothing but trash... So what is the point of referring to it.. Heheheh!

3sword
12th Feb 2013, 11:40
ang napapala nang mga walang bait sa sarili haha..
d ako ADD, tantrums mo nlng yan kung gusto mo talaga sya makaharap kaw mismo pu2nta the easiest way.. haha . baka nman nagpapalusot lang kayo scared talga? haha

kung ako nasandal sa magaling na preacher kayo naman nakatago lang sa loob ng bahay niyo..
cguro mas nakakatawa un dba?


sagutin mo nalng kung kaya mo o hindi. wag kana magtantrums. matalino ka di ba? patunayan mo sa buong mundo kung kaya mo lng naman exposure mo pa diba?:beat:

Ask your preacher to come here in. He is very welcome to do debate here. We challenge him.;)

jtribaco
12th Feb 2013, 13:47
Bibliya din naman ang basehan ni Bro Eli e, di ba nga JUNK yan, ang basehan nya, so walang debate mangyayari jan...

Di ba nga athiest believes that the bible is a useless piece of trash...

Anything written is nothing but trash... So what is the point of referring to it.. Heheheh!

This guy don't know what you're talking about. Some educated non believer or non - christian consider as literature, hays... Baka ito lang laman ng isip mo sa pinag - sasabi mo :)


in the eyes of an atheist the bible is junk and that's for sure.
we all know that the roman catholics compiled the books into bible. the good question here now is " where is the original texts or manuscripts of the bible?"

the vatican don't have the original manuscripts nor the first copies of the manuscripts or even the 3rd copies of the manuscripts. all they have are copies from copies from copies from copies from copies of copy. if the vatican don't have the originals, how can catholic christians say that the bible they believe is true when they cannot compare its texts to the originals.

Dead Sea Scrolls has been discovered and some are are preserved. If you go back to history, severals wars have been experience by man as kingdom conquers other kingdom, burning and anihilation they preserve the Bible on different way... anyway di yan deep anlaysis :)

Ex - catholic

braiylesaguiguit
12th Feb 2013, 14:10
Nonsense talking to an atheist ,kung ano lang gusto nila paniwalaan yun lang ang paniniwalaan nila, they only believe to themselves. And discoveries at Pope pa mismo ang umamin na ang procurators ni Jesus is a Roman Catholic.

Tagu-taguan lumabas ka sa lungga mo! Bakit si Eli Soriano lalapit sayo ikaw mismo nagtatanung Who made the Bible?

atheist ka dapat alam mo ang Dead Sea Scroll at Codex Sinaiticus. . Di ba ? Baka naman natutunan mo lang yan sa kuwentuhan sa gitna ng mga atheist na kasama mo? haha

dreal
12th Feb 2013, 14:17
paki sagut nga po ito ?:excited:

diba Symbol ng christian ay CROSS so pag binaliktad ang CROSE diba ang itsura ay ---> X so pag may TEST sa school pag mali sagut ang makukuha mo ---> X so mali un noh

diba Symbol ng Muslim Islam ay MOON so pg binaliktad ng Kaunti ang MOON ang itsura ----> Chick so pag may TEST sa school pag tama ang sagut ang makukuhang grade ay Chick

dhanzboy
12th Feb 2013, 14:32
Dead Sea Scrolls has been discovered and some are are preserved. If you go back to history, severals wars have been experience by man as kingdom conquers other kingdom, burning and anihilation they preserve the Bible on different way... anyway di yan deep anlaysis :)

Ex - catholic

ok, let's dig deep in history. the dead sea scrolls you are referring to is a COPY of HEBREW BIBLE. it is not the ORIGINAL manuscript.

You can see links before reply

dhanzboy
12th Feb 2013, 14:36
Nonsense talking to an atheist ,kung ano lang gusto nila paniwalaan yun lang ang paniniwalaan nila, they only believe to themselves. And discoveries at Pope pa mismo ang umamin na ang procurators ni Jesus is a Roman Catholic.

Tagu-taguan lumabas ka sa lungga mo! Bakit si Eli Soriano lalapit sayo ikaw mismo nagtatanung Who made the Bible?

atheist ka dapat alam mo ang Dead Sea Scroll at Codex Sinaiticus. . Di ba ? Baka naman natutunan mo lang yan sa kuwentuhan sa gitna ng mga atheist na kasama mo? haha

how ironic!

find out more about dead sea scrolls and codex sanaiticus.
maski tanungin mo ang santo papa mo kung nasa kanila ang mga original manuscripts eh malamang ang isagot sayo eh wala. at paano mo nasabing ang roman catholics ang nagprosecute kay jesus? eh wala pa namang roman catholics nung panahon na yun.

talagang wala ngang sense makipag usap sayo dahil wala ka nga talagang alam.

pROAddictus
12th Feb 2013, 14:36
Originally Posted by pROAddictus
Bibliya din naman ang basehan ni Bro Eli e, di ba nga JUNK yan, ang basehan nya, so walang debate mangyayari jan...

Di ba nga athiest believes that the bible is a useless piece of trash...

Anything written is nothing but trash... So what is the point of referring to it.. Heheheh!

This guy don't know what you're talking about. Some educated non believer or non - christian consider as literature, hays... Baka ito lang laman ng isip mo sa pinag - sasabi mo

malabo ang pagka kasabi mo bro, pardon please...

literature nga, a great religious fiction, but mind you this is a book written so as to pass secret knowledge from ancient times without being obvious... only people with connections from generation to generation can actually decode what this bible is talking about...

The Bible is the word of God? No. It is written in the esoteric code of the mystery....

tao lang po gumawa ng bible... tao!