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Republic of the Philippines
Congress of the Philippines
Metro Manila

Tenth CongresS


Republic Act No. 8484 February 11, 1998

AN ACT REGULATING THE ISSUANCE AND USE OF ACCESS DEVICES, PROHIBITING FRAUDULENT ACTS COMMITTED RELATIVE THERETO, PROVIDING PENALTIES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the Philippines in Congress assembled::

Section 1. Short title. – This Act shall be known as the "Access Devices Regulation Act of 1998."

Section 2. Declaration of policy. – The State recognizes the recent advances in technology and the widespread use of access devices in commercial transactions. Toward this end, the State shall protect the rights and define the liabilities of parties in such commercial transactions by regulating the issuance and use of access devices.

Section 3. Definition of terms. – For purposes of this Act, the terms:

(a) Access Device – means any card, plate, code, account number, electronic serial number, personal identification number, or other telecommunications service, equipment, or instrumental identifier, or other means of account access that can be used to obtain money, good, services, or any other thing of value or to initiate a transfer of funds (other than a transfer originated solely by paper instrument);

(b) Counterfeit Access Device – means any access device that is counterfeit, fictitious, altered, or forged, or an identifiable component of an access device or counterfeit access device;

(c) Unauthorized Access Device – means any access device that is stolen, lost, expired, revoked, canceled, suspended, or obtained with intent to defraud;

(d) Access Device Fraudulently Applied for – means any access device that was applied for or issued on account of the use of falsified document, false information, fictitious identities and addresses, or any form of false pretense or misrepresentation;

(e) Consumer – means a natural person;

(f) Credit Card – means any card, plate, coupon book, or other credit device existing for the purpose of obtaining money, goods, property, labor or services or any thing of value on credit;

(g) Device Making or Altering Equipment – means any equipment, mechanism or impression designed or primarily used for making or altering or reencoding an access device or a counterfeit access device;

(h) Finance Charges – represent the amount to be paid by the debtor incident to the extension of credit such as interest or discounts, collection fees, credit investigation fees, and other service charges;

(i) Open-end-credit plan – means a consumer credit extended on an account pursuant to a plan under which:

1) the creditor may permit the person to make purchase or obtain loans, from time to time, directly from the creditor or indirectly by use of credit card, or other service;

2) the person has the privilege of paying the balance; or

3) a finance charge may be computed by the creditor from time to time on an unpaid balance.(j) Penalty Charges – means such amount, in addition to interest, imposed on the credit card holder for non-payment of an account within a prescribed period;

(k) Produce – includes design, alter, authenticate, duplicate or assemble; and

(l) Trafficking – means transferring, or otherwise disposing of, to another, or obtaining control of, with intent to transfer or dispose of.

Section 9. Prohibited Acts. – The following acts shall constitute access device fraud and are hereby declared to be unlawful:

(a) producing, using, trafficking in one or more counterfeit access devices;

(b) trafficking in one or more unauthorized access devices or access devices fraudulently applied for;

(c) using, with intent to defraud, an unauthorized access device;

(d) using an access device fraudulently applied for;

(e) possessing one or more counterfeit access devices or access devices fraudulently applied for;

(f) producing, trafficking in, having control or custody of, or possessing device-making or altering equipment without being in the business or employment, which lawfully deals with the manufacture, issuance, or distribution of such equipment;

(g) inducing, enticing, permitting or in any manner allowing another, for consideration or otherwise to produce, use, traffic in counterfeit access devices, unauthorized access devices or access devices fraudulently applied for;

(h) multiple imprinting on more than one transaction record, sales slip or similar document, thereby making it appear that the device holder has entered into a transaction other than those which said device holder had lawfully contracted for, or submitting, without being an affiliated merchant, an order to collect from the issuer of the access device, such extra sales slip through an affiliated merchant who connives therewith, or, under false pretenses of being an affiliated merchant, present for collection such sales slips, and similar documents;

(i) disclosing any information imprinted on the access device, such as, but not limited to, the account number or name or address of the device holder, without the latter's authority or permission;

(j) obtaining money or anything of value through the use of an access device, with intent to defraud or with intent to gain and fleeing thereafter;

(k) having in one's possession, without authority from the owner of the access device or the access device company, an access device, or any material, such as slips, carbon paper, or any other medium, on which the access device is written, printed, embossed, or otherwise indicated;

(l) writing or causing to be written on sales slips, approval numbers from the issuer of the access device of the fact of approval, where in fact no such approval was given, or where, if given, what is written is deliberately different from the approval actually given;

(m) making any alteration, without the access device holder's authority, of any amount or other information written on the sales slip;

(n) effecting transaction, with one or more access devices issued to another person or persons, to receive payment or any other thing of value;

(o) without the authorization of the issuer of the access device, soliciting a person for the purpose of:

1) offering an access device; or

2) selling information regarding or an application to obtain an access device; or

(p) without the authorization of the credit card system member or its agent, causing or arranging for another person to present to the member or its agent, for payment, one or more evidence or records of transactions made by credit card.

Section 10. Penalties.Any person committing any of the acts constituting access device fraud enumerated in the immediately preceding section shall be punished with:

(a) a fine of Ten thousand pesos (P10,000.00) or twice the value obtained by the offense, whichever is greater and imprisonment for not less than six (6) years and not more than ten (10) years, in the case of an offense under Section 9 (b)-(e), and (g)-(p) which does not occur after a conviction for another offense under Section 9;

(b) a fine of Ten thousand pesos (P10,000.00) or twice the value obtained by the offense, and imprisonment for not less than ten (10) years and for not more than twelve (12) years, in the case of an offense under Section 9 (a), and (f) of the foregoing section, which does not occur after a conviction for another offense under Section 9; and

(c) a fine of Ten thousand pesos (P10,000.00) or twice the value obtained by the offense, or imprisonment for not less than twelve (12) years and not more than twenty (20) years, or both, in the case of any offense under Section 9, which occurs after a conviction for another offense under said subsection, or an attempt to commit the same.

Section 11. Conspiracy to commit access device fraud. – If two (2) or more persons conspire to commit any of the offenses listed in Section 9 and one or more of such persons does any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be punished as in the case of the doing of the act, the accomplishment of which is the object of such conspiracy.

Section 12. Frustrated and attempted access device fraud. – Any person who performs all the acts of execution which would produce any of the unlawful acts enumerated in Section 9 of this Act, but which nevertheless does not produce it by reason of causes independent of the will of said person, shall be punished with two-thirds (2/3) of the fine and imprisonment provided for the consummated offenses listed in said section. Any person who commences the commission of any of the unlawful acts enumerated in Section 9 of this Act directly by overt acts and does not perform all the acts of execution which would produce the said acts by reason of some cause or accident other than said person's own spontaneous desistance, shall be punished with one-half (1/2) of the fine and imprisonment provided for the consummated offenses listed in the said section.

Section 13. Accessory to access device fraud. – Any person who, with intent to gain for himself or for another, buy, receives, possesses, keeps, acquires, conceals, sells, or disposes of, shall buy and sell, or in any manner deal in any article, item, object or anything of value which he knows or should be known to him, to have been acquired through the use of counterfeit access device or an unauthorized access device or an access device known to him to have been fraudulently applied for, shall be considered as an accessory to an access device fraud and shall be punished with one-half (1/2) of the fine and imprisonment provided for the applicable consummated offenses listed in Section 9 of this Act. Said person shall be prosecuted under this Act or under the Anti-Fencing Law of 1979 (Presidential Decree No. 1612) whichever imposes the longer prison term as penalty for the consummated offense.

Section 14. Presumption and prima facie evidence of intent to defraud. – The mere possession, control or custody of:

(a) an access device, without permission of the owner or without any lawful authority;

(b) a counterfeit access device;

(c) access device fraudulently applied for;

(d) any device-making or altering equipment by any person whose business or employment does not lawfully deal with the manufacture, issuance, or distribution of access device;

(e) an access device or medium on which an access device is written, not in the ordinary course of the possessor's trade or business; or

(f) a genuine access device, not in the name of the possessor, or not in the ordinary course of the possessor's trade or business, shall be prima facie evidence that such device or equipment is intended to be used to defraud.



kAya mga ksymb ingat ingat lang po.. Sana Nakatulong ..!!!!:upset:

bossing.... ang mga nag offer ng mga (free) open VPN (servers) sapalagay ko hindi po ellegal.... pro yung dinadaanan po ng internet using Globe/ smart/ TM etc ay elleagl po yun... may habol po ang taga telecommunication company... tama po ba ako :)

current status:
using USB dongle
using VPN

my opinion:
as long wala kang ginawa sa dongle mo na illegal e.g. reverse engineering or some cases change mac sa BM** model nila, you're be not subjected to. Problema un ng smart / globe / smart how they maintain thier connection, as long ginamit mo ito in good faith. You buy thier device, you will use it whether niloadan mo or hindi, di nila problema un diba? I have option to use VPN for my connection, my choice to use that and I pay for premium server... kong paano nila iirestrict nila ang kanilang connection para di makakagamit ng VPN, problema nila yun :)

2 cents

current status:
using USB dongle
using VPN

my opinion:
as long wala kang ginawa sa dongle mo na illegal e.g. reverse engineering or some cases change mac sa BM** model nila, you're be not subjected to. Problema un ng smart / globe / smart how they maintain thier connection, as long ginamit mo ito in good faith. You buy thier device, you will use it whether niloadan mo or hindi, di nila problema un diba? I have option to use VPN for my connection, my choice to use that and I pay for premium server... kong paano nila iirestrict nila ang kanilang connection para di makakagamit ng VPN, problema nila yun :)

2 cents

tama po..wala tayong ninakaw at hindi natin pinakialaman ang system nila..lahat ng device binili natin at may sarili tayong configuration, kung sasabihin nila ginamit natin ang signal(walang bayad) para magka free internet(premium/freemium) tayo..yun ay illegal para sa kanila, e pano kung 1 month ako walang load sa cp ko at syempre nakakarecieve ako ng mga msgs dahil ginamit ko ang signal nila...illegal din ba yun dahil nakakarecieve ako ng mga msgs gamit ang signal nila?

Hindi illegal ang VPN, it is made for protection and anonymity online. Problema na ng mga networks 'yan kung bakit naba-bypass ang kanilang security. Tsaka masyadong misleading ang title, dapat ILLEGAL FREE INTERNET.:rofl:

I think device ang pinaka-keyword sa law na yan, hindi software like VPN. May law na ba na bawal gumamit ng VPN dito sa bansa? Tsaka we are a democratic country, we have our own free will to do what we want basta hindi labag sa kautusan.:rofl: (Prob nga lang benebenta ang FREE):lol:

ang mga legit users ba ng broadband nila LEGIT din ba OS nila :)

you are using their services without paying anything and using their signals for free is a case of tapping and stealing connection even if it is VPN or something to hide your connection status pag nanakaw pa rin yun kasi gumagamit ka ng serbisyo ng mga telecommunications company without paying anything, it is a theft.

just try to understand why the person who contact the VPN seller is a globe telecom employee..
it is just because they know in that case someone is stealing their property and sell it to others without their permission.

if you tap a internet connection even if you pay to the VPN SELLER without the permission of the telecommunication company or without paying the services of the telecommunication company PAGNANAKAW YUN!

bossing.... ang mga nag offer ng mga (free) open VPN (servers) sapalagay ko hindi po ellegal.... pro yung dinadaanan po ng internet using Globe/ smart/ TM etc ay elleagl po yun... may habol po ang taga telecommunication company... tama po ba ako :)

TAMA!:clap:

you are using their services without paying anything and using their signals for free is a case of tapping and stealing connection even if it is VPN or something to hide your connection status pag nanakaw pa rin yun kasi gumagamit ka ng serbisyo ng mga telecommunications company without paying anything, it is a theft.

just try to understand why the person who contact the VPN seller is a globe telecom employee..
it is just because they know in that case someone is stealing their property and sell it to others without their permission.

if you tap a internet connection even if you pay to the VPN SELLER without the permission of the telecommunication company or without paying the services of the telecommunication company PAGNANAKAW YUN!


suppose i installed a VPN to secure my privacy (as VPNs are what really for) then out of curiosity i tried to get online and oh i was able to without having credits on my account, do you catch me for that? No!

Installing a VPN wont be illegal. If I can get on the net because I did install it well that's their hard luck and they the ones who should do something to stop it on their end. Not that they catch people because they benefit from the free stuff lying on the streets. They should be the ones picking those free stuff out of the streets and not rely on people (who has suffered greed from them) to bring those back. Does that make sense to you?


If I get on the net, does that make me unlawful? No. Do you realize there isnt a law about VPN? And hardly about internet law?

Did you even wonder that the news could be something other than VPN? or have you understand the news? I doubt. You conclude as if it was vpn he was selling when it wasn't written so. Makes sense enough?


And yeah that tabloid, newspaper or whatever you call that rubbish you sure that wasn't made up? A good news will have all the details, the facts, photographs to support their claim. Did you see those? No.

Think about it.

ang mga legit users ba ng broadband nila LEGIT din ba OS nila :)

hindi lahat...

pero samin lahat ng laptop eh license ng microsoft..

in my own conclution... Globe pa din and my sala kasi kung maaus ang security nila .. wala naman makakaacess na any vpn here in pinas... VPN Virtual private Network.. Marameng gumagastos dian..

wag ganun sir :) hindi ka naman siguro inosente or ignorante at alam mo na naman siguro kung ano ang tama sa mali di po ba?

kahit sabihin naman natin na may loophole yung security nila, ang taong gumagawa ng mali yun pa din ang may sala :p

kung makakita ka ng tindahan na bukas, tapos tulog yung nagbabantay, nanakawan mo ba?? nasa iyo na yan dre alam mo na ang tama tsaka mali :p

tsaka para sa lahat- eto nakasulat sa Terms and Conditions of use sa sim package na ginagamit nyo..

"You shall not use the Prepaid Service, handset, SIM card, or Call & Text card for any unlawful, fraudulent, elicit or abusive purpose."

baket yung iba tanong ng tanong kung legal ba o illegal ang pag gamit natin ng mga VPN para maka unli-net tayo??

eh kahit naman bawal yan gumagamit pa din tayo~ parang softwares lang din yan...
check nyo pa mga dre...halos lahat ng mga programs na ginagamit nyo o dina download nyo eh either FREEWARE, SHAREWARE or CRACKED.

ilang porsyento lang ba ang mga legit users ng mga softwares dito? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

basta be wise na lang sa paggamit :) walang magandang naidudulot ang pag aabuse :salute:

suppose i installed a VPN to secure my privacy (as VPNs are what really for) then out of curiosity i tried to get online and oh i was able to without having credits on my account, do you catch me for that? No!

Installing a VPN wont be illegal. If I can get on the net because I did install it well that's their hard luck and they the ones who should do something to stop it on their end. Not that they catch people because they benefit from the free stuff lying on the streets. They should be the ones picking those free stuff out of the streets and not rely on people (who has suffered greed from them) to bring those back. Does that make sense to you?


If I get on the net, does that make me unlawful? No. Do you realize there isnt a law about VPN? And hardly about internet law?

Did you even wonder that the news could be something other than VPN? or have you understand the news? I doubt. You conclude as if it was vpn he was selling when it wasn't written so. Makes sense enough?


And yeah that tabloid, newspaper or whatever you call that rubbish you sure that wasn't made up? A good news will have all the details, the facts, photographs to support their claim. Did you see those? No.

Think about it.


the mere fact here is that your connection is relying on the signals of the telecom company and in that case you are using their service for free without the permission of the company..

what do you think is that?
a blessing? No. its a theft.
alam mo kung sino ang mali...
think about it...

suppose i installed a VPN to secure my privacy (as VPNs are what really for) then out of curiosity i tried to get online and oh i was able to without having credits on my account, do you catch me for that? No!

Installing a VPN wont be illegal. If I can get on the net because I did install it well that's their hard luck and they the ones who should do something to stop it on their end. Not that they catch people because they benefit from the free stuff lying on the streets. They should be the ones picking those free stuff out of the streets and not rely on people (who has suffered greed from them) to bring those back. Does that make sense to you?


If I get on the net, does that make me unlawful? No. Do you realize there isnt a law about VPN? And hardly about internet law?

Did you even wonder that the news could be something other than VPN? or have you understand the news? I doubt. You conclude as if it was vpn he was selling when it wasn't written so. Makes sense enough?


And yeah that tabloid, newspaper or whatever you call that rubbish you sure that wasn't made up? A good news will have all the details, the facts, photographs to support their claim. Did you see those? No.

Think about it.
http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/aug2211/crime_story03.htm
rubbish, pala.. sige nga, kung legal pala yan, punta ka nga sa globe mismo, dun sa may bulacan, then sama mo yung police na humuli at mag offer ka din ng vpn free net kung wala mangyari sayo, saludo nako.. hahahahaha ano.. i dare you.. hahahahaha:lol:

curious lang po ako,malalaman ba ng network like globe smart or sun na free internet gamit natin sa pagbrowse?i mean nadidetect ba ng mga network na legal or illegal ang paggamit mo ng connection nila?
like me im using puknut vpn,alam ba ng globe or smart na di ako postpaid user instead vpn with pay gamit ko...salamat sa mga sasagot........:help:

the mere fact here is that your connection is relying on the signals of the telecom company and in that case you are using their service for free without the permission of the company..

what do you think is that?
a blessing? No. its a theft.
alam mo kung sino ang mali...
think about it...


HOOOHHHH GODDDDD....... IF i stay here a little longer Im gonna get crazy lawl!

You know Im really tired running this over and over and over but it just doesnt sink in.

Ok I will leave you with this once more then I will let let you be on your way.


Who cares if its MALI, question is IS IT UNLAWFUL??????? You get that? There is no LAW about sniffing internet, hooohh goddddddd i think i wanna cry wahahahhahahahaha


suppose i installed a VPN to secure my privacy (as VPNs are what really for) then out of curiosity i tried to get online and oh i was able to without having credits on my account, do you catch me for that? No!

Installing a VPN wont be illegal. If I can get on the net because I did install it well that's their hard luck and they the ones who should do something to stop it on their end. Not that they catch people because they benefit from the free stuff lying on the streets. They should be the ones picking those free stuff out of the streets and not rely on people (who has suffered greed from them) to bring those back. Does that make sense to you?


If I get on the net, does that make me unlawful? No. Do you realize there isnt a law about VPN? And hardly about internet law?

Did you even wonder that the news could be something other than VPN? or have you understand the news? I doubt. You conclude as if it was vpn he was selling when it wasn't written so. Makes sense enough?


And yeah that tabloid, newspaper or whatever you call that rubbish you sure that wasn't made up? A good news will have all the details, the facts, photographs to support their claim. Did you see those? No.

Think about it.

sa presinto ka magpaliwanag...

d yan lulusot sa korte...

ILLEGAL NAMAN TALAGA,, PAPALUSOT PA KC!!!

SMART AT GLOBE kakalabanin mo????

bakit mayaman knb sa pagtitinda ng VPN???

Ikaw!!! May alam ka ba how VPN works?? Ipaliwanag mo nga kung ano ang flow niya??? Hays..,!!! bago ka mag-post, isipin mo muna kung may AMATZ ang sinabi mo.., P-A-L-I-W-A-N-A-G mo "PilotFighter"

curious lang po ako,malalaman ba ng network like globe smart or sun na free internet gamit natin sa pagbrowse?i mean nadidetect ba ng mga network na legal or illegal ang paggamit mo ng connection nila?
like me im using puknut vpn,alam ba ng globe or smart na di ako postpaid user instead vpn with pay gamit ko...salamat sa mga sasagot........:help:



Kung di ka gumagamit proxy or VPN your ISP will know your online activites. they keep a record of it. that is why may VPN to protect your privacy.

VPN will cloak your real IP. It will give you a leased IP and your ISP will not know what you were doing online.

HOOOHHHH GODDDDD....... IF i stay here a little longer Im gonna get crazy lawl!

You know Im really tired running this over and over and over but it just doesnt sink in.

Ok I will leave you with this once more then I will let let you be on your way.


Who cares if its MALI, question is IS IT UNLAWFUL??????? You get that? There is no LAW about sniffing internet, hooohh goddddddd i think i wanna cry wahahahhahahahaha


suppose i installed a VPN to secure my privacy (as VPNs are what really for) then out of curiosity i tried to get online and oh i was able to without having credits on my account, do you catch me for that? No!

Installing a VPN wont be illegal. If I can get on the net because I did install it well that's their hard luck and they the ones who should do something to stop it on their end. Not that they catch people because they benefit from the free stuff lying on the streets. They should be the ones picking those free stuff out of the streets and not rely on people (who has suffered greed from them) to bring those back. Does that make sense to you?


If I get on the net, does that make me unlawful? No. Do you realize there isnt a law about VPN? And hardly about internet law?

Did you even wonder that the news could be something other than VPN? or have you understand the news? I doubt. You conclude as if it was vpn he was selling when it wasn't written so. Makes sense enough?


And yeah that tabloid, newspaper or whatever you call that rubbish you sure that wasn't made up? A good news will have all the details, the facts, photographs to support their claim. Did you see those? No.

Think about it.

:hilo:Im not saying that installing VPN is ILLEGAL, what i am saying is you are using the signals or the connection of telecom company for free do you think that is legal?
try to understand yourself... read again all my post.. this will be my last post no time for arguements.

VPN is not illegal what i am trying to say that they are using VPN software to tap or use the signals or the connections of telecom company and that is illegal. it is theft

ok fine its ilegal
free man yan o my bayad
sabi nyo nga signal ng telecom gngmit natin
edi illegal stop this issue
pare pareho naman tayo nkkinabang diba?
o anu problema dun??

:hilo:Im not saying that installing VPN is ILLEGAL, what i am saying is you are using the signals or the connection of telecom company for free do you think that is legal?
try to understand yourself... read again all my post.. this will be my last post no time for arguements.


Show me the law that says sniffing signal from telecoms is illegal then I will delete all my posts and believe you.

FREE surfing while on vpn is a result of telecom's system not too secure to disallow access.

OK last words. I made my point and you made yours, let others judge na lang if alin dyan ang myth, haka haka, sariling opinyon at may basehan.

ok fine its ilegal
free man yan o my bayad
sabi nyo nga signal ng telecom gngmit natin
edi illegal stop this issue
pare pareho naman tayo nkkinabang diba?
o anu problema dun??

hindi ako nagamit ng VPN to bypass my connection :)

so far, wala pa naman nag aaway. :lol:

Yup, Wala naman nag aaway dito where just argue'ng..haha

Mas ok nga to atleast napguusapan db?

fake ang kweto in ts halatang edited galing sa wimax yng issue n yn i link lng sa vpn...vpn hater ata c TS

fake ba kamO??
see this.http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/aug2211/crime_story03.htm

FYI= I'm using VPN right now..Gusto ko lang na maging aware tayo sa mga nangyayari..



TS ok tong thread mo ah! Warning ba to? Malamang malapit ng maging underground site ang symbianize kapag laging ganito mga thread dito! :thumbsup:

MAs Ok nga Kung Underground tlaga hhehe..



aw! naliligaw ka po ng landas, di nyo po ba naiiintindihan hanggang ngayon na di naman free net yung service talaga nila? legitimate softwares sila na nagagamit lang sa free internet kaya nagkakaron ng ganitong mga thread... guamagana po talaga sila pag may load... may kanya kanya silang legitimate purpose, kaso pag nagamit sa pag bypass sa security like sa billing, dun na po naiiba ang usapan.



tama!

hindi ako nagamit ng VPN to bypass my connection :)

wee di nga

Bro, kelan pa ba nauso ung FBT/UBT? Walang free browsing na mangyayari kung walang BUTAS na binigay ang isp naten. In the first place, sila ang may kasalanan ng lahat kung bakit nagsimula ito.

Kung alam nila na ilegal ito, dapat they did an action sa simula pa lang, 2011 na nga eh, nagkalat pa ring mga super tricks naten. Para na nilang sinabi na "Cge lang, Mag free net pa kayu hanggat gusto niyo". :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


Kung nagrereklamo ka sa mga fbt users, bakit d mo cmulan sa isp naten, yun ay kung gagawin clang action??? Eh kaso wala rin................................. mga petiks kasi eh.:lol:


Yun na nga eh masyado nating inaabuso purkit may BUTAS and mga isp natin...hahaha

Pero ok lang isa naman ako sa nangaabuso waaaaaaaaaa

hindi ako nagamit ng VPN to bypass my connection :)

hnd ko sir snb n ikaw hehe
karamihan naman dito gumagamit ng vpn
free man i my bayad sb nila illegal
para matigil na edi illegal po
snu po b my ayaw nto??edi wag po gumamit
free man yan b nyo nga illegal ang vpn

Show me the law that says sniffing signal from telecoms is illegal then I will delete all my posts and believe you.

FREE surfing while on vpn is a result of telecom's system not too secure to disallow access.

OK last words. I made my point and you made yours, let others judge na lang if alin dyan ang myth, haka haka, sariling opinyon at may basehan.

ok ganito na lang punta tau sa telecom company yung sa serbisyo na ginagamit mo mo sabihin natin sa kanila na you are sniffing signals from their services para magkaroon ng libreng connection ano sa tingin mo ang gagawin nila sau?

papalakpakan?
pupurihin?

wee di nga

WIFI surround ang bahay namin gusto mo makita?

ok ganito na lang punta tau sa telecom company yung sa serbisyo na ginagamit mo mo sabihin natin sa kanila na you are sniffing signals from their services para magkaroon ng libreng connection ano sa tingin mo ang gagawin nila sau?

papalakpakan?
pupurihin?

I will tell you what they gonna do. They gonna ignore you and if you pressed on impressing them "Hey I can go online for free!" they will have the guards drag you out. They can't have you arrested. Does that answer suffice you?

hnd ko sir snb n ikaw hehe
karamihan naman dito gumagamit ng vpn
free man i my bayad sb nila illegal
para matigil na edi illegal po
snu po b my ayaw nto??edi wag po gumamit
free man yan b nyo nga illegal ang vpn

hindi ko naman sinasabi na ILLEGAL ang VPN ang sinasabi kong illegal eh yung paggamit sa signal o connection ng mga telecom companies ng walang bayad o walang pahintulot ng company...

Yun na nga eh masyado nating inaabuso purkit may BUTAS and mga isp natin...hahaha

Pero ok lang isa naman ako sa nangaabuso waaaaaaaaaa

wahahaha
isa din ako sa nangaabuso
chance ko na to para makabawi sakanila
kaya wag ng magtalo
ok
its illegal
kanya kanya po tayo
ng opinion
PEACE :salute::salute:

I will tell you what they gonna do. They gonna ignore you and if you pressed on impressing them "Hey I can go online for free!" they will have the guards drag you out. They can't have you arrested. Does that answer suffice you?

so why don't we try..???. bring your computer or laptop and your kit and let us show them the process of sniffing signals to make a free connection...
what do you think?

itigil ko na lang itong vpn reseller kikita sana ako dito ng malaki kaso risky bye bye vpn :bye::bye:

so why don't we try..???. bring your computer or laptop and your kit and let us show them the process of sniffing signals to make a free connection...
what do you think?

Do you know how it is like talking to a 9 year old kid who ignores to listen? Man, you should know the feeling.


And yeah your statements are getting out of topic. I guess you needed to jump on the first page and see that this isnt about bringing kits in globe's offices and demonstrating it to them how things are done (which is very stupid, i dont know how you even get to that lol.) In case you needed a refresher this thread questions the legality of vpn causing you free net. Im out of here.


And you guys should stop hating VPNs. The thread title is very misleading. I was thinking you guys are working for the telecoms but I realize they are not gonna hire people with IQ level and reasoning like yours. Peace out.


and hey sorry if I am a bit rude. cant help it. sometimes an obstinate man needed a few good cusses to make him realize he is no longer logical. lol

and in case i get a warning or an infraction by this, that's fine. see you around boys.
:lol:
*steps out*

Do you know how it is like talking to a 9 year old kid who ignores to listen? Man, you should know the feeling.


And yeah your statements are getting out of topic. I guess you needed to jump on the first page and see that this isnt about bringing kits in globe's offices and demonstrating it to them how things are done (which is very stupid, i dont know how you even get to that lol.) In case you needed a refresher this thread questions the legality of vpn causing you free net. Im out of here.


And you guys should not be hating VPNs. The thread title is very misleading. I was thinking you guys are working for the telecoms but I realize they are not gonna hire people with IQ level and reasoning like yours. Peace out.


and hey sorry if I am a bit rude. cant help it. sometimes an obstinate man needed a few good cusses to make him realize he is no longer logical. lol

and in case i get a warning or an infraction by this, that's fine. see you around boys.
:lol:
*steps out*

:lol:[Republic Act No. 8484 ]
there is a law BAKERO!

Tabun anata wa topikku ga fusoku shite iru hitotsuda ne. Jibun ga baka o rikai shiyou to suru.

ayan para lalo mong hindi maintindihan... good luck na lang sa inyo...

correction hindi ako 9 years old ...8 lang ako :lol:

Agree ako jan... Yan ang sinasabi ko.. ...Kasi ginagamit mo yung bandwidth nila na walang paalam and bayad..Kaya stealing padin yun...
Kasi If want to use their bandwidth and signal or whatever..You need to pay for it first...something like that mga men..


:praise::thumbsup::salute:

libre naman yung signal nila diba? ang cellphone ba kapag wala kang load sa sim mo eh wala ka din signal? :lmao::lmao:

HINDI ILLEGAL GUMAMIT NG VPN
PAKI BASA LANG PO


http://www.unlawyer.net/?p=833

APPROVED NA RULE NA PO ITO NG NTC MATAGAL NA

--------------------
Mr. Cabarios was referring to the Commission’s circular on value-added services [PDF file - Ed.], so let’s see what is actually covered by this rule:

Messaging services – includes all types of messaging services such as short messaging service (not more than 160 characters), messaging service (more than 160 characters), Multimedia messaging service, unified messaging service, etc.
Audio Conferencing
Audio and video conferencing
Voice mail service
Electronic mail service
Information service – includes all types of information delivered to/accessed by the users/subscribers, e.g. road traffic information, financial information, visa application information, etc.
Gaming services except gambling
Applications service – includes all types of applications delivered to/ accessed by the users/subscribers, e.g. mobile banking, electronic payments, point of sale service, etc.
Content and Program service – includes all types of contents delivered to/ accessed by the users/subscribers such as music, ring tones, logos, video clips, etc.
Audiotext service
Domain name Hosting service
Facsimile service
IP multicasting service
Virtual Private Network service
PBX hosting service

-------------------

HINDI ILLEGAL ANG GUMAMIT NG VPN
ANG ILLEGAL AY ANG MAG BENTA NG VPN NA WALANG PERMIT MULA SA NTC!!!

Tokiniwa hitobito wa mada karera ga katameta no kangae o tensai no yōna hanashidesuga shirimasendeshita. Arigatō.

libre naman yung signal nila diba? ang cellphone ba kapag wala kang load sa sim mo eh wala ka din signal? :lmao::lmao:

Hahaha....:rofl:. Astig ang reply mo, tol. Siguro mga bata ang nandito, mga bata ang isip.:lmao:

Peace.:salute:

Dapat pala mag-debate na ang senado about this.:)

HINDI ILLEGAL GUMAMIT NG VPN
PAKI BASA LANG PO


http://www.unlawyer.net/?p=833

APPROVED NA RULE NA PO ITO NG NTC MATAGAL NA

--------------------
Mr. Cabarios was referring to the Commission’s circular on value-added services [PDF file - Ed.], so let’s see what is actually covered by this rule:

Messaging services – includes all types of messaging services such as short messaging service (not more than 160 characters), messaging service (more than 160 characters), Multimedia messaging service, unified messaging service, etc.
Audio Conferencing
Audio and video conferencing
Voice mail service
Electronic mail service
Information service – includes all types of information delivered to/accessed by the users/subscribers, e.g. road traffic information, financial information, visa application information, etc.
Gaming services except gambling
Applications service – includes all types of applications delivered to/ accessed by the users/subscribers, e.g. mobile banking, electronic payments, point of sale service, etc.
Content and Program service – includes all types of contents delivered to/ accessed by the users/subscribers such as music, ring tones, logos, video clips, etc.
Audiotext service
Domain name Hosting service
Facsimile service
IP multicasting service
Virtual Private Network service
PBX hosting service

-------------------

HINDI ILLEGAL ANG GUMAMIT NG VPN
ANG ILLEGAL AY ANG MAG BENTA NG VPN NA WALANG PERMIT MULA SA NTC!!!

hindi nga illegal ang VPN.... ang illegal eh yung paggamit ng connection ng mga telecom ng libre at walang pahintulot.... baka.

magkano ba kumuha ng permit sa NTC para makapag benta ng VPN? ^_^

hindi ko naman sinasabi na ILLEGAL ang VPN ang sinasabi kong illegal eh yung paggamit sa signal o connection ng mga telecom companies ng walang bayad o walang pahintulot ng company...

ikaw naman...nde naman cguro binabayaran ang signal ng telecom diba? at kung magpapaalam naman tayo sa kanila na gamitin ang signal..syempre sasabhin nila..."cge gamitin nyo open naman yan para sa lahat..gamit lang kayo hanggat gusto nyo"gets mo ba ang punto ko sir?

magkano ba kumuha ng permit sa NTC para makapag benta ng VPN? ^_^

PHP 40,000.00 good for 5 Years.

May required documentation din. Sobrang DAMI LANG NG DOCS!!!

PEDE KAYO HUMINGI NG APPLICATION FORM MULA SA NTC VIA FAX:
TEL: 928-9171

Search mo sa google ..Republic Act No. 8484

Meron pa yan iba hindi lang Republic Act No. 8484..

Yan yung kinakaharap ng nahuli sa pag kakabit ng vpn.. http://www.symbianize.com/showthread.php?t=509074

Hanpin mo ..Anjan nakapost kanina.. sa WEb/Internet!

ay uu nga ah hehehe may VPN bang nakalagay ts o may galit at ingit ka sa mga VPN user din tanung lang po

basta ako wala akong pakialam, ang mahalaga nakakabawi sa mga binyad ko dati sa globe na wala nmng pinuntahan...... legal user ka n nga tapos ang bagal pa ng connection... amf!! mas maganda pa vpn unlimited na imba pa ang bilis!!!! enjoy nalang kayo mga dre!!!

haizzzz ta ha ha .... nakailang ulit ko ng binasa wala naman akong nakitang illegal s vpn. magiging bawal lang pag inalter mo yun device or modem right? wala naman akong inalter.. default settings naman ang gamit ko.. ano ang illegal dun. ? modem lang ang pag aari ng isp hindi ang vpn.. :lol:

hahaha kalokohan to wala pang batas para sa illegal internet connection. para lang yan naki tap sa sky cable hahaha

wag kayo matakot jan
jump jump jump jump jump brother!!! :yipee::yipee::yipee::yipee:

basta ako wala akong pakialam, ang mahalaga nakakabawi sa mga binyad ko dati sa globe na wala nmng pinuntahan...... legal user ka n nga tapos ang bagal pa ng connection... amf!! mas maganda pa vpn unlimited na imba pa ang bilis!!!! enjoy nalang kayo mga dre!!!

Sir,
:clap::clap: thats good, ako dating smart bro user 999 per month almost 1 week puro disconnected ung line, para sakin mas ok ang vpn mura na may sukli ka pa :clap::clap:

kalaboso ang mokong

Hay naku! out na ako dito Orokamono no hitobito wa koko de EH Yata... Kodomo-tachi no kokoro. Baka

> Let me clarify a few things here:

> Fisrt, It is CLEARLY not stated in the said report that VPN was used to set up the internet connection. So we should not assume that it is VPN. It could be any other trick. The thread title should be changed. It is inappropriate.

> The real contention was LEGALITY, and not MORALITY. Do not confuse this two as the same thing. These are two entirely different concepts.

> An act can be both LEGAL and MORAL. E.g. Paying your taxes

> An act can be both ILLEGAL and IMMORAL. E.g. Erickson Felipe dela Cruz's case. ILLEGAL according to Section 9 of the Republic Act No. 8484 (Access Devices Regulation Act of 1998) and Section 33 (b) of Republic Act No. 8792 (Electro*nic Commerce Act of 2000). IMMORAL because he is EXPLOITING and CAPITALIZING other people's ignorance for this kind of knowledge(free internet connection)

> An act can be ILLEGAL but MORAL. E.g. Rizal's movements during his time, were considered by the Spanish government an act of treason(ILLEGAL). But his Noli Me Tangere inspired Filipinos to have a revolution(MORAL since this is for our country's sovereignity)

> Finally, an act can be LEGAL but IMMORAL. E.g. The Use of VPN. There is no such law in our country that prohibits citizens from using VPN services(LEGAL). The exploitation of noypis on telco system's loop holes can be considered IMMORAL(being unfair to other subscribers that pays for telco'c services)

> Let me clarify a few things here:

> Fisrt, It is CLEARLY not stated in the said report that VPN was used to set up the internet connection. So we should not assume that it is VPN. It could be any other trick. The thread title should be changed. It is inappropriate.

> The real contention was LEGALITY, and not MORALITY. Do not confuse this two as the same thing. These are two entirely different concepts.

> An act can be both LEGAL and MORAL. E.g. Paying your taxes

> An act can be both ILLEGAL and IMMORAL. E.g. Erickson Felipe dela Cruz's case. ILLEGAL according to Section 9 of the Republic Act No. 8484 (Access Devices Regulation Act of 1998) and Section 33 (b) of Republic Act No. 8792 (Electro*nic Commerce Act of 2000). IMMORAL because he is EXPLOITING and CAPITALIZING other people's ignorance for this kind of knowledge(free internet connection)

> An act can be ILLEGAL but MORAL. E.g. Rizal's movements during his time, were considered by the Spanish government an act of treason(ILLEGAL). But his Noli Me Tangere inspired Filipinos to have a revolution(MORAL since this is for our country's sovereignity)

> Finally, an act can be LEGAL but IMMORAL. E.g. The Use of VPN. There is no such law in our country that prohibits citizens from using VPN services(LEGAL). The exploitation of noypis on telco system's loop holes can be considered IMMORAL(being unfair to other subscribers that pays for telco'c services)

tinagalog mo na lang sana dre. di ka rin maiintindihan ng mga yan. mula page one paulit ulit lang yung thought at explanation ih



by the way ty sa pag sum up ng mga important POINTS lol

tinagalog mo na lang sana dre. di ka rin maiintindihan ng mga yan. mula page one paulit ulit lang yung thought at explanation ih



by the way ty sa pag sum up ng mga important POINTS lol


Maiintindihan nila yan.:) misleading kasi yung thread title eh

Maiintindihan nila yan.:) misleading kasi yung thread title eh

sa takbo ng conversation and the way sila mag respond it seems to me that they have something against VPN use for sniffing the net free of charge lol

That TITLE supported by the ambiguous news report from unreliable newspaper and LAW text that doesnt even apply to the case ay masyadong obvious.

You see how they supported each other sa mga points nila only a fool will buy?

They keep rubbing in and hammering it to us that it is immoral without understanding that it isn't unlawful xD

At di ko makuha kuha kung bakit VPN ng VPN sila mula sa simula na wala naman sinabing VPN.


ayaw na sana mag respond kasi pointless na mag argue kaso ang sakit sa mata mabasa xD

Thanks for making us aware ........ Kaya ingat lang tyo mga vpn users and the likes.

HINDI ILLEGAL GUMAMIT NG VPN
PAKI BASA LANG PO


http://www.unlawyer.net/?p=833

APPROVED NA RULE NA PO ITO NG NTC MATAGAL NA

--------------------
Mr. Cabarios was referring to the Commission’s circular on value-added services [PDF file - Ed.], so let’s see what is actually covered by this rule:

Messaging services – includes all types of messaging services such as short messaging service (not more than 160 characters), messaging service (more than 160 characters), Multimedia messaging service, unified messaging service, etc.
Audio Conferencing
Audio and video conferencing
Voice mail service
Electronic mail service
Information service – includes all types of information delivered to/accessed by the users/subscribers, e.g. road traffic information, financial information, visa application information, etc.
Gaming services except gambling
Applications service – includes all types of applications delivered to/ accessed by the users/subscribers, e.g. mobile banking, electronic payments, point of sale service, etc.
Content and Program service – includes all types of contents delivered to/ accessed by the users/subscribers such as music, ring tones, logos, video clips, etc.
Audiotext service
Domain name Hosting service
Facsimile service
IP multicasting service
Virtual Private Network service
PBX hosting service

-------------------

HINDI ILLEGAL ANG GUMAMIT NG VPN
ANG ILLEGAL AY ANG MAG BENTA NG VPN NA WALANG PERMIT MULA SA NTC!!!

ahh..yun pala eh...e di kukuha nalang tayo ng permit sa ntc para legal ang bintahan natin ng vpn..magkano kaya ang permit!?:excited::excited:

Pinamimigay lang yan VPN (freemiums) na yan dito sa Symbianize, dapat wag naman sanang abusuhin at IBENTA! Nanawagan ako sa mga katropa natin dyan, maging responsable tayo sa mga dini deal natin, balang araw tayo rin ang aani ng mga kabulukan nayan.

Peace brothers. :praise:

e, legal pala yan e, punta ka nga dun sa bulacan kung saan yung napabalitang nagka hulihan
http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/aug2211/crime_story03.htm
ayan o.. then offer mo sa kanila vpn free internet... legal naman pala e...

parang kuryente lang yan e, pag di ka dumaan sa kuntador, PAGNANAKAW na yun..
kasi yung electrical wire, legal din yun, pero pag ginamit mo na sa pag jumper, illegal na...

Pinamimigay lang yan VPN (freemiums) na yan dito sa Symbianize, dapat wag naman sanang abusuhin at IBENTA! Nanawagan ako sa mga katropa natin dyan, maging responsable tayo sa mga dini deal natin, balang araw tayo rin ang aani ng mga kabulukan nayan.

Peace brothers. :praise:

Sino nagsabi sayo na libre ang VPN? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Try mo nga gumawa ng VPN with 40 servers 10 torrents 30 browsing saka 1 ph? tingnan ko lang kung libre nga.. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Bago magcomment isipin mo muna boy.. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Meron mga free jan pero may sponsorship yun kaya nakakapag bayad sila ng VPS..

e, legal pala yan e, punta ka nga dun sa bulacan kung saan yung napabalitang nagka hulihan
http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/aug2211/crime_story03.htm
ayan o.. then offer mo sa kanila vpn free internet... legal naman pala e...

parang kuryente lang yan e, pag di ka dumaan sa kuntador, PAGNANAKAW na yun..
kasi yung electrical wire, legal din yun, pero pag ginamit mo na sa pag jumper, illegal na...


tama po ang sinabi mo sir kung wimax ang pinag uusapan pero kung pano magkaron ng freenet using vpn or other tunneling nde fit sa sinabi mo

e, legal pala yan e, punta ka nga dun sa bulacan kung saan yung napabalitang nagka hulihan
http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/aug2211/crime_story03.htm
ayan o.. then offer mo sa kanila vpn free internet... legal naman pala e...

parang kuryente lang yan e, pag di ka dumaan sa kuntador, PAGNANAKAW na yun..
kasi yung electrical wire, legal din yun, pero pag ginamit mo na sa pag jumper, illegal na...

> Nabasa mo bang mabuti yung news report bullydog? May nabasa ka bang VPN free internet dun? Pakibasa nga ulit nang mabuti yung report.

> Kaya naman naaresto yung lalaki kasi TUMANGGAP NG MARK MONEY.

> With regards sa hamon mo kayang - kaya kong gawin yan. Ang gagawin ko lang naman magiinstall ako ng openVPN sa laptop nung globe representative eh. Tapos install ko lang ng libre. HINDI AKO MAGPAPABAYAD. May ginawa ba kong illegal dun? :lol: Anung ikakaso sakin? Baka magpasalamat pa sakin yung globe representative.

> Nabasa mo bang mabuti yung news report bullydog? May nabasa ka bang VPN free internet dun? Pakibasa nga ulit nang mabuti yung report.

> Kaya naman naaresto yung lalaki kasi TUMANGGAP NG MARK MONEY.

> With regards sa hamon mo kayang - kaya kong gawin yan. Ang gagawin ko lang naman magiinstall ako ng openVPN sa laptop nung globe representative eh. Tapos install ko lang ng libre. HINDI AKO MAGPAPABAYAD. May ginawa ba kong illegal dun? :lol: Anung ikakaso sakin? Baka magpasalamat pa sakin yung globe representative.

oo nga naman..isa pa mali naman kc ang report kung vpn ang ini-install ng reseller ibig sabhin walang hacking doon diba..swerte naman ng globe representative na yun..libre na sya premium..hehehe

katangahan alang ang nga yan magpublish sila ng product na may libre hmmmmm ai nako dapat ikulong ang globe pagloloko ng nga cliente niya sila ang sampahan ng reclamo jajajajaj

> Nabasa mo bang mabuti yung news report bullydog? May nabasa ka bang VPN free internet dun? Pakibasa nga ulit nang mabuti yung report.

> Kaya naman naaresto yung lalaki kasi TUMANGGAP NG MARK MONEY.

> With regards sa hamon mo kayang - kaya kong gawin yan. Ang gagawin ko lang naman magiinstall ako ng openVPN sa laptop nung globe representative eh. Tapos install ko lang ng libre. HINDI AKO MAGPAPABAYAD. May ginawa ba kong illegal dun? :lol: Anung ikakaso sakin? Baka magpasalamat pa sakin yung globe representative.

TAMA ka jan boss!! Pwede naman mag install ng VPN kahit sa harap pa ng hepe ng pulis basta wag lang tatanggap ng mark money.. hahaha padaanin na lang kamo sa SMART MONEY or GCASH.. hahah

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

nga hacker walang mapapaahuli ngtago na tau sa internet dun nila kau hanapin may teamviewer naman kau para dun 2turuan nga cliente nio..my ganun... wag kau kasi mg release ng product kung may sira or diferencya sa network niyo..... republic act 666 bawal ang tanga... :)

nahihirapan na kc ang taga globe kung pano mapahinto ang freenet(vpn,tunneling) kaya ang ginawa nila hulihin ang lahat ng nagiinstall nito at sasabhin sa report na hinahack ang system nila para maka net...hayy

:rofl:

ingat ingat nalang

sa takbo ng conversation and the way sila mag respond it seems to me that they have something against VPN use for sniffing the net free of charge lol

That TITLE supported by the ambiguous news report from unreliable newspaper and LAW text that doesnt even apply to the case ay masyadong obvious.

You see how they supported each other sa mga points nila only a fool will buy?

They keep rubbing in and hammering it to us that it is immoral without understanding that it isn't unlawful xD

At di ko makuha kuha kung bakit VPN ng VPN sila mula sa simula na wala naman sinabing VPN.


ayaw na sana mag respond kasi pointless na mag argue kaso ang sakit sa mata mabasa xD


I agree.:lock:

I agree.:lock:

Woooottttt!!!! agree din ako toooo!

> Nabasa mo bang mabuti yung news report bullydog? May nabasa ka bang VPN free internet dun? Pakibasa nga ulit nang mabuti yung report.

> Kaya naman naaresto yung lalaki kasi TUMANGGAP NG MARK MONEY.

> With regards sa hamon mo kayang - kaya kong gawin yan. Ang gagawin ko lang naman magiinstall ako ng openVPN sa laptop nung globe representative eh. Tapos install ko lang ng libre. HINDI AKO MAGPAPABAYAD. May ginawa ba kong illegal dun? :lol: Anung ikakaso sakin? Baka magpasalamat pa sakin yung globe representative.

sige nga! sige nga! hehehe! pa picture at authograph sa chief of police ng Hagonoy ha... then post mo dito... :lol: wala naman pala ikakaso e... refund ko gastos mo pag nagawa mo nga...

mga ka symbianze linawin ko lang ah?
Pano naging iligal ang vpn diba nag babayad tayo ng vps server? Pangalawa yung sim at prepaid na gamit natin is binili nanatin at bayad na bayad at may resibo pa at waranty pangatlo wala naman tayong ginawa or sinira sa site nila na lumabag tayo sa batas signal lang naman ang basihan natin para makakonek sa vpn?
Ex: Yung cellphone na lang pag walang lod may signal ba or wala? Di iligal yun kc may signal di naman tyo nag babayd hahahahahahah para sakin sana gawin na legal yun vpn marami kc nasisilaw sa maliit na halaga eh basta pera nga naman tsaka yung news parang edited parang wimax at pano nila nasabi na vpn yun good luck na lang sa mga resseler na gaya ko heeheheheh

The money is the enemy here. Kung gagawin niyo nang libre yan, walang ikakaso sa inyo ang mga telco na yan. Since wala naman sa RA 8484 yan... ni hindi nga sakop yan ehh.

YUng sakop lang ata niyan is yung pag circumvent dun sa mga WiMax Device, which is a big no,no .. dahil kinalikot mo na yung configuration nang "device na galing sa Globe" ... USB modems are for personal use.

Ang sakop nang RA8484 is any circumvention on "device" that is owned by a private company, pasok ka diyan. Sa mga VPN's naman... wala namang circumvention na nangyari sa Globe... and mind na rin na we just installed a program on our computers, we didnt also modify the SIM cards to do the "free internet" stuff, it;s just a basic APN configuration that is publicly available to everyone.

I wonder if RA8484 talaga yung ikinaso dun sa na tiklo nung nakaraan lang. Parang mali ehh.

sige nga! sige nga! hehehe! pa picture at authograph sa chief of police ng Hagonoy ha... then post mo dito... :lol: wala naman pala ikakaso e... refund ko gastos mo pag nagawa mo nga...

> Haha, pathetic ka pare.:)

pa'ulit ulit nlang na post..ang malinaw ay wla nman pong bawal sa VPN..kc legal ung VPN.

ang bawal ee yung FREE ay binibenta. dapat share lang..wlang illegal sa sharing khit pera pa e'share wlang illegal dun.. Share xa ng FREEmium vpn tpos share:slap:ran krin ng pera..patas lang..

so ano ikakaso dun? kung hindi naman nya tinampered yun usb modem, wla naman syang binago sa dashboard ng provider? then kahit sino naman nakaka konek sa dashboard kahit walang load sabi sa isang thread me loophole dyan ksi nga naman hindi illegal ang vpn kahit mga bangko at malalaking company gumagamit nito to secure their lines di ba? sbi sa ibang thread ang daling lusutan nyan yun ngang mga government official na corrupt tsaka mga general hindi mapakulong eh nandyan na yun mga ebidensya ang moral story na lang dito wag magtiwala sa hindi kakilala.

> Haha, pathetic ka pare.:)

wag mo ng patulan. magkaka infra ka lang dre.

u made your point. that's enough.

kita mo naman yung responses ng kausap mo daig pa toddler. halos walang sense.

enjoy the rest of the afternoon :)

Guys Simple lng ang Solusyon dyan sa VPN issue na yan, yung ayaw maging legal ang vpn cge gawa kayo ng paraan para ma ban lahat ng VPN dito sa Pilipinas, at yung nakikinabang sa VPN at Tumatangkilik nito cge Magpakasaya kayo habang di pa kayo na ba-ban ng mga networks provider. :dance::praise:

sa sa info ts

thanks sa impormasyon. alert dapat hehehttp://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/music/t4214.gif

http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/aug2211/crime_story03.htm
rubbish, pala.. sige nga, kung legal pala yan, punta ka nga sa globe mismo, dun sa may bulacan, then sama mo yung police na humuli at mag offer ka din ng vpn free net kung wala mangyari sayo, saludo nako.. hahahahaha ano.. i dare you.. hahahahaha:lol:

my opinion is binili mu ung USB modem, its prepaid it means its up to you kung kelan mu lo2dan, my load k man or wla pag sinalpak mu yan sa laptop mu nanjan ung cgnal so it means na ngnanakaw kn dhil don :noidea:

..depende sa interpretation yata toh.. For me, hindi illegal ang VPN coz if that's the case, matagal ng nakulong yung mga owner nyan... at yung mga resellers...diba? the issue with VPN is the security and not the fraud...

nakop patay tau dito hehehe ^^.... hahah

yan ang problema sa mga abusado ehhh TSK TSL libre na nga ginagawa pang hanap buhay tsk tsk...

kawawa naman ang mahuhuling reseller nito mga sir barya lang ang kita samantalang yung mga vps nka upo lang nagpapayaman :weep:

:weep:

Hindi po mahuhuli ang mga VPS owners at users.

Ang mga nagkakabit o reseller po, kasi ang mga reseller po ang nag coconfigure sa mga computer ng binebentahan nila.

Ang VPS owners po, naka-upo lang sa opisina nila :Dat nagbibigay ng account, at bahala na po ang reseller kung paano nya iaalok ang account.

Kaya mga resllers po ang dapat mag-ingat ng mabuti.

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Dun sa nahuli, hindi po yun hacker. Isa po syang tanga na mukang pera. Tumanggap ba naman ng customer na hindi kakilala o hindi man lang bina-background check.


Mali yung unang post ko, ayun sa source ko. Freemium ang binenta nya. Ginawan lang nya ng paraan para madeactivate after 30 days. Using windows scheduler. Kahunghangan talaga.

:rock:

SAWAKAS NAKALAYA NA AKO!

hahahaha!:lol: legal pala pero kelangan i background check ang custumer kasi baka mahuli? ano yun?:noidea:

Tokiniwa hitobito wa mada karera ga katameta no kangae o tensai no yōna hanashidesuga shirimasendeshita. Arigatō.

Doon ka sa Japan mag POST.., wag dito.,
Bobletz ka PALA., anong GRADE KA PA BA??
Ano tingin niyo sa amin dito sa SYM, mga JAPAYUKI?
Okie ka ba TIYAN??
Mag YAKULT ka muna.,

Basin gepanuhot imong utok..,
"May hangin na utak mo., LOL.,
Opinyon namin to kaya out kana dun.!!
Makulong man kami., OUT kana rin dun.,
Kung GUSTO mo ring makulong.,
Magbenta ka ng Free VPN..., LOL:yipee::rofl:
Hindi illegal ang VPN., kasi di naman namin ginamit internet service nila.
GETS mo na ba??
kaya may bayad ang VPN kasi nagbabayad din kami sa Private Servers Provider namin...
Katangahan ang nangyari sa nahuli na nag configure sa empleyado umano ng GLOBOBO...
Mukhang PERA kasi kaya ayun tiklo.., nyahahaha...,:rofl::rofl:

ibig mo sabihin, kayo lang pwede bumili at mag bayad sa Private Servers Provider, tapos pag ipapasa nyo na kelangan free nalang para iwas tiklo?
:dance:
ano klase katwiran yun? kung talagang legal yan, kahit ibenta mo yan dahil binili mo din, walang tiklo tiklo!

VPN services are perfectly legal! It only depends on you how you use them. As long as you are not performing illegal activities, then it is perfectly legal to use a VPN service. Even though you use a VPN for some illegal activity, this does not make the use of such services illegal.


Conclusion: "It is restricted, but not illegal."

ibig mo sabihin, kayo lang pwede bumili at mag bayad sa Private Servers Provider, tapos pag ipapasa nyo na kelangan free nalang para iwas tiklo?
:dance:
ano klase katwiran yun? kung talagang legal yan, kahit ibenta mo yan dahil binili mo din, walang tiklo tiklo!

Tumanggap MARKED MONEY Boss..,
kahit sino basta tumanggap ng Marked Money tiklo talaga.,
Sabi nga ng mga FULIS...,
"Sa presinto ka na lang magpaliwanag."

Ano kaya sa palagay mo ang paliwanag niya???
hehehehe., hindi naman malinaw sa report/balita na VPN nga ang nasa Online Diyaryo., yung ibang CRIME scene, nakita ko sa TV.,
pero yung "Hacker, na-trap sa Internet Connection"???
Ni HEADLINE hindi ko nakita o narinig man lang.,
R.A. 8484??? Define VPN kung may nabanggit ba o kahalintulad nito???

V = Virtual
P = Private
N = Network

It means, with use of VPN, we have Freedom and Security sa internet.,

Just like in my COLLEGE life., our school block some websites in order not to access it., but with the USE of VPN, we have our freedom to SURF the Net and we are secured by not being monitored by the Systems Administrators in our school.,

so here's the CHART....

My PC ===> Broadband Router ====> Internet and Vice-Versa
(Naka-tunnel si VPN)

In present., i am now one of the Computer Systems Administrator and i did the same thing too. Block websites so that students cant access the prohibited websites., Lalong-lalo na ang PORN..., Lolz:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

karma yun para sa bologs na yun...

haha! di gagawan ng buy bust operation ang isang tao ng mga pulis kung wala sila nakikita illegal din sa ginawa nya, lalo na, alam ng media yung ginawa

hindi na maopen yung abante news

Ang R.A. 8484 po ay madalas na ginagamit ng mga credit card companies na panakot. At ang tinutukoy na "Access Device" sa batas na ito ay Credit Card. Naging gahaman lang yung nahuli na yun. Di kasi nag iingat.

katakot nito! :(

alin ang illegal?may ninakaw ba?may hacking ba?

sa mga users ng vpn

1. binili naman ang broadband(smartbro,globe tattoo,sun)
2. binili din ang simpack
3. walang system ng ISP na binago o pinakialaman para makanet, ginamit lang ang signal
4. ang users nagbabayad ng 100 to 200 a month (ang iba gumagamit ng free vpn)

sa vpn owners

1. nagbabayad ng servers monthly sa labas
2. may sariling config na nde nanggagaling sa ISP

diba signal lang hiniram natin sa kanila!?

dapat nga magsaya sila dahil tumaas ang market sales nila sa broadband at yun ay dahil sa atin na gumagamit ng vpn.

agree ako sayo brod:thumbsup:

ako pati mga pulis nilalagyan ko dito ng vpn,pati attorney,mga teachers, pati distributor ng globe :rofl:

ako din may clients akong attorney,doctor,teacher,engineer,govt employee pero wala akong taga globe..masubukan nga :)