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Nirvana999
26th Jan 2008 Sat, 09:18
Microsoft Corp.'s Windows Vista recorded about half as many vulnerabilities in its first full year of availability as Windows XP did in its opening 12 months, company security executives said Wednesday.


January 24, 2008 — Computerworld — Microsoft Corp.'s Windows Vista recorded about half as many vulnerabilities in its first full year of availability as Windows XP did in its opening 12 months, company security executives said Wednesday. In an update to earlier 90-day and six-month reports, Jeff Jones, a security strategy director in the company's Trustworthy Computing group, cited vulnerability and patch statistics to show that Vista logged 66 total bugs between November 2006 and November 2007, 30 of which had not yet been patched. In the first 52 weeks Windows XP was in user, on the other hand, it was pegged with 129 vulnerabilities, 54 of which were not fixed by the end of that 12-month period.

Others at Microsoft used Jones' statistics to claim that Vista is more a more secure OS than XP. "I think that it's fair to say that Windows Vista is proving to be the most secure version of Windows to date," said Austin Wilson, a director in Microsoft's Windows client group, in a post to the Vista Security blog. "Our investments in SDL [Security Development Lifecycle] and our defense-in-depth approach to building Windows Vista seem to be paying off."

Wilson touted Internet Explorer 7's "Protected Mode"—a sandbox-style security provision available only in the Vista edition of the browser—and Vista's own User Account Control (UAC) as reasons why the OS is more secure. "Of the 23 security bulletins that have been released for Windows Vista through January 2008, 12 specifically call out a lower impact for those running without administrative privileges," noted Wilson. "This is a great illustration of the importance of User Account Control and why we included it in the product."

But numbers don't tell the whole story, countered a pair of security professionals.

"As a lot of people have said, Gartner included, [corporate] switching to Vista has been a slow process," said John Pescatore, the research firm's security guru. "Microsoft has said all along that Vista would be a big leap in security, and it's been on that drum beat. Everybody does that. Oracle, Sun, Red Hat, they all say that they have fewer patches than the other.

"But Vista is definitely a major [security] improvement over XP."

Andrew Storms, research director at security vendor nCircle Inc., agreed. "The year-one for Vista and year-one for XP clearly show that Vista has had fewer vulnerabilities than XP. That's a good sign for Microsoft and the enterprise -- and consumers."

Even so, both Pescatore and Storms question the worth of bug counts, as well as some of Microsoft's measurements. "More important than the number of vulnerabilities is what attacks are targeting and how much pain there is in entering patches," said Pescatore. "That should be the real measurement."


In other words, a vulnerability in Vista or XP should not be treated as the equal of one in say, a Linux distribution. The former, because of the widespread use of Windows and much greater interest on the part of attackers to exploit the OS's weaknesses, must be patched without delay. The latter? "For most companies that use Linux on the desktop, they can patch in a much more leisurely fashion," said Pescatore. That's because they know the likelihood of an attack is slim.

Storms came to a similar conclusion, but for a different reason. "Outside of the Vista-to-XP, comparisons are a moot point," added Storms, referring to the section of Jones' report where Vista's vulnerability count was compared against Mac OS X, Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Ubuntu Linux. "You just can't compare Vista to Linux," said Storms. "There are simply too many variables. I'd argue the same for Mac OS."

Nor, said Pescatore, should all of Microsoft's conclusions be taken as gospel. "Patch events," which both Jones and Wilson cited, is a good example.

According to Microsoft, patch events is the number of times a company has to activate its patch management process because a vendor has issued a security update. Jones, for example, contrasted Vista's 9 patch events in its first 12 months with XP's 26, although as he acknowledged, XP's events were spread across more days because Microsoft had not yet moved to a monthly patch schedule.

"Patch events don't take into account the days spent making sure an enterprise's applications will work once a patch is deployed," countered Pescatore.

And just as a vulnerability on one OS shouldn't be equated with one on a different OS, patch events aren't comparable, either. "It's a fact that when 'Patch Tuesday' comes around and there are critical Windows patches, you have to start calling overtime. With other products, [those patches] can wait until the end of the month," Pescatore said.

But while he questioned some aspects of Jones' report too, nCircle's Storms gave Microsoft an "A" for effort. "It's worth Microsoft's time to do this, and talk about Vista like this, on a marketing level and on a public relations level. They've come leaps and bounds in communicating [about security] with the public.

"They're actually putting together numbers and releasing them," Pescatore said. "That's hard to find among OS vendors."

Jones' report can be downloaded from the Microsoft site.
© 2007 Computerworld Inc.

iBee
26th Jan 2008 Sat, 15:09
kalokohan.

thread title pa lang di ako naniniwala. kahit ano pang sabihin ng kampo ni Gates

:lolcard:

drx2k
26th Jan 2008 Sat, 16:21
there's no perfect system..

jonkimnicko
26th Jan 2008 Sat, 17:00
kalokohan ni gates..secure nga (ata) pro maraming compatability issues..

drx2k
26th Jan 2008 Sat, 17:10
nagbubuhat lang ng sariling bangko yan si Gates, siguro kung ang third party o ibang experts ang magsasabi at mag re-recommend sa vista na most secure..


kung dati pa nila ginawa yang vista na yan.. at yan din ang gamit nila.. edi sana hindi na-hack ang system nila at makopya ang confidential file tulad ng souce code ng windows and office suite

jonkimnicko
26th Jan 2008 Sat, 17:46
tama..ibig sabihin..inaadvertise lang ni gates ang vista..

merde
27th Jan 2008 Sun, 08:30
The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even too sure about that one -Dennis Huges, FBISecurity has always played a balancing act with usability. Any expert will acknowledge that it's simple to create a totally secure computer: you simply unplug every connection, including power, encase the thing in concrete, and surround it with guards.

By the same token, a pair of wire cutters provides the perfect network firewall: cut your Internet connections and we guarantee you won't suffer from Internet-based attacks.

Tanggalin mo ang power supply at putulin mo ang internet connection, mapa-Vista, Mac o Linux ang computer mo, secured na yan!

jonkimnicko
27th Jan 2008 Sun, 10:01
hahaha...tama..nice one!!:)

niloloko lang tayo ni gates..

wakokocrunch
7th Mar 2008 Fri, 07:53
Hmmmm I have been a Vista User since it came out and I find it actually more secure and stable than Windows XP...

For one, they have this failsafe level 0 shell wherein applications and malware that may have entered and wrecked a program would no longer require a complete system reboot due to a hangup... You may easily close the erroneous program and just continue using Windows Vista without any difference in memory allocation or any complications.

In a Windows XP platform, you get an error in a dll file or an application error, and you are stuck with a crashed or impaired system afterwards.

And Windows Vista provides one of the best firewall protection... Didn't have any problem of any malware attacks even when going deep into underground sites like some of those German "woohoo!" warez sites.

Try it out and feel the system first before actually jumping into conclusions based from other criticisms :)

Cheers! :)

vrl29
11th Jun 2008 Wed, 15:25
tama, secured nga. sa sobrang secure; hindi ako makapag-rename ng FOLDERS na na-create ko na. huhuhu :cry:

aed040
12th Jun 2008 Thu, 12:47
Hmmmm I have been a Vista User since it came out and I find it actually more secure and stable than Windows XP...

For one, they have this failsafe level 0 shell wherein applications and malware that may have entered and wrecked a program would no longer require a complete system reboot due to a hangup... You may easily close the erroneous program and just continue using Windows Vista without any difference in memory allocation or any complications.

In a Windows XP platform, you get an error in a dll file or an application error, and you are stuck with a crashed or impaired system afterwards.

And Windows Vista provides one of the best firewall protection... Didn't have any problem of any malware attacks even when going deep into underground sites like some of those German "woohoo!" warez sites.

Try it out and feel the system first before actually jumping into conclusions based from other criticisms :)

Cheers! :)

Thats right. And those incompatibilities/bugs issues you said its not the problem of Vista it is from Other software developers which do not have support vista if you want to use vista to make your PC Secure then use only softawares that are Vista compatible im sure you will have no problems with incompatibilities in my own pc i dont even have AntiVirus installed in my vista. Why? a virus cant even spread in your pc if you are running vista.

suxenexus
12th Jun 2008 Thu, 20:59
I think this new product from Microsoft cannot provide the proper numbers. You cannot just compare the numbers between XP and Vista. Windows XP is still dominates the consumer OS market, making it prone for more "security issues" than Vista. Vista is still quite new. Surely, it has some other critical bugs that are waiting to be found. But since there are fewer people trying to find security holes, it is likely to result in fewer problems.

Vista might be the "most secure" release of Windows, it doesn't mean it's the best

they_bhadz
8th Jul 2008 Tue, 20:48
:upset:

jopo274
16th Jul 2008 Wed, 23:16
hmmm....vista is the most secured windows?that's madness dude! lahat ng PC or Laptop can be the most secured windows....whaaaT!dpende nlng sa virus library update mo..kun lagi ka nguupdate nun antivirus tska ng windows updates,besides.kelangn ng firewall din.dpat nka-ON..secured n computer mo nin....vista???d magtatagal mbubulok din yan.. the most secured OS is linux...hahaha!open source pa.u can personaliz ur own OS..hahaha!mandriva is beter than vista...pinahirap ng windows un paggamit ng computer..daming arte..mabuti pa kpg XP PRo or HOme..user friendly...

dami bugs ng VISTA...


moral lesson:
be secured..with the data inside ur storage devices...tska always update things inside ur computer..especially antivirus,anti-spyware...much better to install "internet security softwares"
trend 2day with our technolgy is information and system security..

in jissa's name...

psyknarph
17th Jul 2008 Thu, 07:46
there's no perfect system..

correct... :thumbsup:

and linux is the closest...

kaya walang secure na windows.. kahit vista..

me narinig nga ako sa "underground" na inumpisahan na nilang i-hack ang vista nun pang february...

capt_nemo777
17th Jul 2008 Thu, 07:47
recently lang...meron lumabas na news about microsoft harvesting informations and datas of vista users..kaya na alarma ang mga paranoid na nerds around the net :P

tazzky
10th Aug 2008 Sun, 18:03
Most secure and most annoying. (prompts)