do u beLIEVE IN destiny? [Sitemap]

Lancelot

12th Jun '07 Tue, 09:35

i do believe in destiny...

as i said on my other post, i had a gf - 4 years kami.. marami pangarap, marami plano... kung ilan ang gustong maging baby...maraming masasayang araw, maraming kalungkutan, maraming sacrifices.. maraming beses tumawa at maraming maraming beses na umiiyak..we promise on each and raise our hand, and said... till death do us part. u know na kung ano kulang...and its falls nothin.

and now.. am happy to my new destiny.

i don't want you guys to be afraid to love, it's normal kelangan mo masaktan at tanggapin coz as we grow we learn something that we use to overcome all the risk and hindrance.. that's what make to be a better person.

-Lancelot

yoh268

12th Jun '07 Tue, 17:47

DESTINY (n.)
1. The events that will happen to a person, seen as unable to be changed.
2. The hidden power believed to control what will happen in the future.

Sori but I don't believe in destiny . . . For me, we are the sole commander of each of our own life . . . But because of the world we live in (society), other unexpected things happen

Redge

12th Jun '07 Tue, 18:08

oo naman destiny nkakabit na cable sa bahay namin eh ,,mahal kc sky cable :lmao:

Lovely Face

13th Jun '07 Wed, 00:10

Masaya

13th Jun '07 Wed, 02:10

sana nga totoo :D im still waiting/searching though

aLgiE

13th Jun '07 Wed, 09:39

I Do! Destiny Falls in your Hand .. Youll never knew .. your Taking a Step Towards it .......inspite of Adversity .. it Will Lead You ..... I believe My LOVE is my Destined Partner ....

yoh268

13th Jun '07 Wed, 10:45

ang sa akin po eh wag naman puro iaasa sa destiny na yan ang ating buhay....

jong-jong

13th Jun '07 Wed, 12:52

Lancelot

13th Jun '07 Wed, 13:10

ang sa akin po eh wag naman puro iaasa sa destiny na yan ang ating buhay....

many people tried to be perfect as they can, control they life as much as they can.. to achieve their goal in life.

Parang sumakay ka ng aircon na bus dahil alam mong mabilis eto at walang hassle at madali kang makakarating sa eksaktong oras tapos naplatan ng walang dahilan at nalate ka sa appointment mo at naisip mo na sana sumakay nalang ako sa harley motorcycle mo...

pinoy boxer like bobby is great fighter like manny.. he like to be his brother to be won in a battle and be famous... can his hands grab his destiny?

pls. explain why not believe in destiny and we listen, this is an open forum.

-Lancelot

JenG

13th Jun '07 Wed, 13:19

Destiny refers to a predetermined course of events. It may be conceived as a predetermined future, whether in general or of an individual. It is a concept based on the belief that there is a fixed natural order to the universe.

Destiny may be seen as a fixed sequence events that is inevitable and unchangeable, or that individuals choose their own destiny by choosing different paths throughout their life.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny.

ako i really believe in destiny...parang ung sa movie na "SERENDIPITY"
it happens to our life too pero di lang natin napapansin kc busy tayo masyado sa mga ibang bagay na nangyayari sa buhay natin!!!

jong-jong

13th Jun '07 Wed, 13:35

yoh268

13th Jun '07 Wed, 13:41

many people tried to be perfect as they can, control they life as much as they can.. to achieve their goal in life.

Parang sumakay ka ng aircon na bus dahil alam mong mabilis eto at walang hassle at madali kang makakarating sa eksaktong oras tapos naplatan ng walang dahilan at nalate ka sa appointment mo at naisip mo na sana sumakay nalang ako sa harley motorcycle mo...

pinoy boxer like bobby is great fighter like manny.. he like to be his brother to be won in a battle and be famous... can his hands grab his destiny?

pls. explain why not believe in destiny and we listen, this is an open forum.

-Lancelot

Parang sumakay ka ng aircon na bus dahil alam mong mabilis eto at walang hassle at madali kang makakarating sa eksaktong oras tapos naplatan ng walang dahilan at nalate ka sa appointment mo at naisip mo na sana sumakay nalang ako sa harley motorcycle mo...

naplatan ng walang dahilan --> mahirap ata yun may cause pa rin ito (pwedeng dahil sa init, may thumbtacks sa daan etc.). Sa life, tama po, may di inaasahang pangyayari... pero mayroon at mayroon pa ring nagcacause nito

pinoy boxer like bobby is great fighter like manny.. he like to be his brother to be won in a battle and be famous... can his hands grab his destiny?

He can be like he's brother... He's doing everything that he can (perhaps)... Leave it to the society...

pls. explain why not believe in destiny and we listen, this is an open forum.

I can't explain anything that does not exist...

jong-jong

13th Jun '07 Wed, 13:41

many people tried to be perfect as they can, control they life as much as they can.. to achieve their goal in life.

Parang sumakay ka ng aircon na bus dahil alam mong mabilis eto at walang hassle at madali kang makakarating sa eksaktong oras tapos naplatan ng walang dahilan at nalate ka sa appointment mo at naisip mo na sana sumakay nalang ako sa harley motorcycle mo...

pinoy boxer like bobby is great fighter like manny.. he like to be his brother to be won in a battle and be famous... can his hands grab his destiny?

pls. explain why not believe in destiny and we listen, this is an open forum.

-Lancelot

hindi naman pdeng maplatan un ng walang dahilan tol,
baka me naipit na pako. :lol:

at ang pagiging late sa appointment aw consequence ng iyong pgpili, na magagawa mo lang dahilmeron kang freewill,
kasi kung destiny mo un, kahit na saan ka sumakay e, malalate ka talaga

si manny tsaka si bobby naman kahit na magkapatid e hindi mgkapareho ng utak,
hindi rin sila iisang tao so ung mga choices na ginagawa nila hindi mgkakapareho kahit na ba pareho sila ng dream.

yoh268

13th Jun '07 Wed, 13:52

hindi naman pdeng maplatan un ng walang dahilan tol,
baka me naipit na pako. :lol:

at ang pagiging late sa appointment aw consequence ng iyong pgpili, na magagawa mo lang dahilmeron kang freewill,
kasi kung destiny mo un, kahit na saan ka sumakay e, malalate ka talaga

si manny tsaka si bobby naman kahit na magkapatid e hindi mgkapareho ng utak,
hindi rin sila iisang tao so ung mga choices na ginagawa nila hindi mgkakapareho kahit na ba pareho sila ng dream.

agree po ako jan kuya... plus reps sayo... ay sori wala pala akong maiibibigay... moral support nalang :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

rentao_15

13th Jun '07 Wed, 14:39

ano ang kaibahan ng choices we make sa chances we take?

eto nakita ko ito na screen saver sa isang pc unit sa office dati pa... (di ko alam kung tama ang pagkakatanda ko... please correct me if im wrong)

"destiny is not a matter of chance its a matter of choice"

kumbaga lahat tayo ay may kanya kanyang destiny sa buhay... pwede rin nating paniwalaan na meron tayo nito or hindi pero there is still "destiny" at ito'y nakasalalay sa choices and decisions that we would take in every road....

ibig sabihin tayo ang gumagawa ng ating destiny... sa decisions and choices we make in every transitions in life...

yung tungkol sa pelikulang "serendipity" .... sobrang ganda ng film na yun grabe... hehehe... although di ko pa sya napapanood... (marequest ko nga kay sir hmx to)

yung opinion ko naman... i believe in destiny... :hyper:

Lancelot

13th Jun '07 Wed, 14:40

naplatan ng walang dahilan --> mahirap ata yun may cause pa rin ito (pwedeng dahil sa init, may thumbtacks sa daan etc.). Sa life, tama po, may di inaasahang pangyayari... pero mayroon at mayroon pa ring nagcacause nito

its an expression, exactly kaagad mo bang malalaman kung di mo aalamin? as i said.. its expression. obviously kahit cno alam naman ang cause nagpakaplat.

what about wrong choices? (malalaman mong wrong choices kung natatapos na) what about believe in your own perfect brains that you could save in all crimes..

ex. your house, with all computer generated lock doors with security cameras and you are pretty sure na walang makakapasok... meron nakapasok (pero di mo alam) ... den naganap dun un crime..

meron tayong freewill and choices, does it mean na lahat ng choices at freewill ay tama? imo, choices & freewill ay kasangkapan para mapunta tayo sa destiny naten..

-Lancelot

yoh268

13th Jun '07 Wed, 16:50

Kuya ren mukang hindi yan ang destiny na gusto nila paniwalaan . . . Ang destiny nila eh yung parang daan na sa una eh marami kang choices pero you'll end up at only one final path . . . Kaya contradicting yan . . .

imo, choices & freewill ay kasangkapan para mapunta tayo sa destiny natin

weird diba? ? ? Kung ang destiny eh di na natin mababago, anu magagawa ng freewill at choices

...meron tayong freewill and choices, does it mean na lahat ng choices at freewill ay tama?

we don't care kung tama o mali un . . . The point is, whether right or wrong, it affects your life or somebody else's life diba . . .

bottom line: walang destiny

yani5798

13th Jun '07 Wed, 17:58

I don't believe too. Evrything happened in so called destiny is because you do your part your responsibility. Parang may isang gurl sa bar lonely & need someone to talk to, si guy naman nagiisa man or marami kau lumapit kasi nagiisa lang sya or even make papansin. In short nagkakilala kau & became intimate lover. Because somebody make a move kasi kung wala would you call that destiny??? So everything involves "responsibility & action".

Isa pang sample guys:

Long distance love affair, syempre mahirap yun diba? Everybody says bahala na, kung kami, kami, kung hindi,hindi. Pag pareho kayung hindi gumawa ng effort hindi magwowork, pero pag pareho kayung matsaga or isa man sa inyo in the end kayu paren diba? because you both do your "part" & "responsibility". basta for me destiny wont happen without action...:)

felinor

13th Jun '07 Wed, 18:30

Ewan ko,pero meyron yatang Destiny,
pero let me tell you guys this story totoo to sa taong kilala ko

I know a person na ni minsan di sya naghangad na magkaroon ng magandang girlfriend, di sya naghangad na maging mayaman o karangalan, simple lang siya kontento na kung ano man ang binigay sa kanya, tawagin nalang natin syang Albert
si Albert ay may kaibigan tawagin natin sa pangalang Joey, Ambisyoso pero Matalino marunong sa buhay,mabait,gwapo at tapat na kaibigan ni ALbert
natapos sila ng pag-aaral Sa Engineering, Si Joey Com laude
pero si ALbert ay ni medalya wala, di alam sa isa'y isa, iisa ang kanilang nililigawan, kasi napaka discreet ng babaeng ito kung mangligaw dapat sa text lang di lantaran
tawagin natin sa pangalang Shiela
ng nalaman ni joey na nililigawan rin ni labert si Shiela ay sya na ang lumayo at nagparaya, umalis at naghanap ng swerte sa ibang lugar
nakalipas ang limang taon

Si Albert ay naging VP sa isang Companya, di nya alam bakit biglabigla dumating ang swerte nya, yung swerte talaga dahil ni hindi sya nagsikap, ni di sya sumipsip, ginawa nya lang ang alam nyang dapat gawin
Si Joey namin napakasipag, araw araw nagtratrabaho, pero di parin sinwerte umuwi sa bansa, at nakakita ng maayos na trabaho, at naging kleyente nya ang kompanya ni Albert, nalaman ni Joey na asawa na pala ni Albert si Shiela
___________________________________________
to be continued.............

ngayon guys may tao talagang ganyan kahit anong gawin di nya nakuha ang gusto nya, dahil kaya yun sa tadhana??

Lancelot

13th Jun '07 Wed, 18:50

Our destiny is God's will...

Destiny is like a path or set of path.. a road that given us since we born..

We have a freewill or choices, we have a choices to walk, run or fly if you can... but still this choices will go through your path.

Thanks for the opinion, i'll greatly appreciate it.

-Lancelot

felinor

13th Jun '07 Wed, 21:21

Lance tama ka diyan
No man is an island (elaborate ko ha)
Yes god gave us the power to do our own will, to go the path that we choose, but sometimes or let us say all the times the decision we made greatly depends on the people around you, if we wanted something, no matter how we tried to get it if its not meant to be yours, then its not. and sometimes our will is misleading us, we thought what we want is want we need, some people in any chance get what they don't want at first while the other so tried so hard to get it, and as Lance said its God's will He only knows what is best for us. pero sometimes we are mislead by our thought as i said earlier and in the end we end up with nothing. it is the matter of choice if we can differentiate what we want and what we need
and by that we can differentiate Fate and Destiny
(parang hindi ako Engr Student no??)
this is not a closing statement and i welcome others to elaborate this more

"Destiny is just an excuse of letting things happen
It's choice - not chance - that determines your destiny
Every individual has a place to fill in the world, and is important, in some respect, whether he chooses to be so or not.
http://www.orderofthewhitelion.com/Karma@/Kimages/Destiny.jpg

anyway about FAte and Destiny Check out this site
Destiny or Fate (http://www.orderofthewhitelion.com/Karma@/Fate.destiny.html)

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 00:22

ngaun guys may tao talagang ganyan kahit anong gawin di niya nakuha ang gusto nya, dahil kaya yun sa tadhana??

I don't thinks so. There are lots of things than can affect the outcome/s of what you did. Again the major culprit here is the society. You do your best but you still end up a loser --> maybe because other people are better than you are or someone is preventing your triumph

Our destiny is God's will...

Ouch, what about losers. . . this statement implies that it's also God's will to put some of us in a sorry situation

I need to reiterate this: Destiny and fate contradicts with free will. Claiming the existence of one means denying the other.

Lovely Face

14th Jun '07 Thu, 01:56

ngaun guys may tao talagang ganyan kahit anong gawin di niya nakuha ang gusto nya, dahil kaya yun sa tadhana??

I don't thinks so. There are lots of things than can affect the outcome/s of what you did. Again the major culprit here is the society. You do your best but you still end up a loser --> maybe because other people are better than you are or someone is preventing your triumph

Our destiny is God's will...

Ouch, what about losers. . . this statement implies that it's also God's will to put some of us in a sorry situation
I need to reiterate this: Destiny and fate contradicts with free will. Claiming the existence of one means denying the other.

Oops, but dont forget that God causes ALL THINGS to work together for Good to those who love Him.(Romans 8:28-29) So hindi rin kawawa yun. If you watched Bruce Almighty...God just cant say YES to everyone...

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 08:26

JenG

14th Jun '07 Thu, 08:45

Lancelot

14th Jun '07 Thu, 09:57

I don't thinks so. There are lots of things than can affect the outcome/s of what you did. Again the major culprit here is the society. You do your best but you still end up a loser --> maybe because other people are better than you are or someone is preventing your triumph

end up a losers? why people said they are losers? ... is that what you think people who are losers? how many times you loose? and stand up and move on..accept you are losers... it much better to say it's God's will.. and they have something to do that God given us.

someone better than you? nope.. it depends pa rin.. kung saan ka expertise and God gave you that... in terms of knowledge, meron ka alam ni di nila alam at in terms of kabuhayan, meron mayaman ni di kayang gawin ang ginagawa ng mahirap.. at natural di rin kaya ng mahirap ang ginagawa ng mayaman.. meron tayong kanya kanyang role sa buhay.

Ouch, what about losers. . . this statement implies that it's also God's will to put some of us in a sorry situation

because God knows we have a freewill and can stand up, get a choice and move on...

patay, bible verse ang sinagot . . . Magmumukha tuloy akong atheist pag kinalaban ko to . . . Tsk3x . . .

malapit na..

All I can say is, the best talaga ang Religion sa pagdevelop sa pagiging tao natin . . . Ito din kasi ang sandalan natin sa mga hindi natin maexplain . . . Pero sa kadalasan, kalaban ito ng rational thinking at science

its true... meron akong nabasa about charles darwin i forget, na bago cya mamatay he still believe in God because of his theory of evolution, that although he had all the facts and evidence na ang tao ay nanggaling sa monkey.. but still doubt of it.. meron din naman mga astronomer and scientist na still na naniniwala sa God you can search in google if you like. :)

Thanks for sharing your opinion..

-Lancelot

JenG

14th Jun '07 Thu, 10:14

jong-jong

14th Jun '07 Thu, 10:28

ANDULING... ang kaibahan ng "choice" eh ung ung desisyon na gagawin sa isang bagay which sure ka na un and dapat mong gawin.... ung naman "chances" eh u jaz go wid d flow... basta kung ano na lang dumating doon ka nalang without even making sure if dat is d best solution or decision for u...

you will still choose db, to go with the flow or not

chances na dumarating sa buhay natin, madami yan tsaka oras oras, maliit man o malaki, pro nasa sayp pa if you'll grab it or not.

so
The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny.
ay malabo sa akin, kasi the chances we take also requires us to choose db.

the choices we take determine our destiny,
pero hindi ung destiny sa ganitong context

DESTINY (n.)
1. The events that will happen to a person, seen as unable to be changed.
2. The hidden power believed to control what will happen in the future.

kasi kung ganyan ang ibig sabihin ng dstiny e kahit pala matulog ako 24/7, kung destined ako maging doktor e magiging doktor talaga ako,

jong-jong

14th Jun '07 Thu, 10:45

end up a losers? why people said they are losers? ... is that what you think people who are losers? how many times you loose? and stand up and move on..accept you are losers... it much better to say it's God's will.. and they have something to do that God given us.

someone better than you? nope.. it depends pa rin.. kung saan ka expertise and God gave you that... in terms of knowledge, meron ka alam ni di nila alam at in terms of kabuhayan, meron mayaman ni di kayang gawin ang ginagawa ng mahirap.. at natural di rin kaya ng mahirap ang ginagawa ng mayaman.. meron tayong kanya kanyang role sa buhay.

because God knows we have a freewill and can stand up, get a choice and move on...

malapit na..

its true... meron akong nabasa about charles darwin i forget, na bago cya mamatay he still believe in God because of his theory of evolution, that although he had all the facts and evidence na ang tao ay nanggaling sa monkey.. but still doubt of it.. meron din naman mga astronomer and scientist na still na naniniwala sa God you can search in google if you like. :)

Thanks for sharing your opinion..

-Lancelot

bro, hindi naman ibig sabihin na hindi kami naniniwala sa dstiny hindi na rin kami naniniwala sa diyos

bakit tayo bibigyan ng freewill kung ang ating kapalaran ay nakasulat na at hindi na pdeng baguhin?

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 11:06

end up a losers? why people said they are losers? ... is that what you think people who are losers? how many times you loose? and stand up and move on..accept you are losers... it much better to say it's God's will.. and they have something to do that God given us.

someone better than you? nope.. it depends pa rin.. kung saan ka expertise and God gave you that... in terms of knowledge, meron ka alam ni di nila alam at in terms of kabuhayan, meron mayaman ni di kayang gawin ang ginagawa ng mahirap.. at natural di rin kaya ng mahirap ang ginagawa ng mayaman.. meron tayong kanya kanyang role sa buhay.

naku medyo malabo po ang nilalaman nito ... pero mukang inaalis mu na sa tao ang kakayahan nya na mag change at magcope sa society. Asan ang free will dito??? eto sagot ko qouted yan di yan galing sa akin(hmm kanino kaya???)because God knows we have a freewill and can stand up, get a choice and move on...

ako, I do believe in GOD pero not in destiny xe its way too far from reality... Napaka ideallistic ng iniisip mung mundo pag ganun...

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 11:17

ibig sabihin non, hindi ka destined maging doctor. db?

please elaborate... hindi ko po gets...:hyper:

aLgiE

14th Jun '07 Thu, 11:21

Global360

14th Jun '07 Thu, 11:23

galing ni algie :)

jong-jong

14th Jun '07 Thu, 11:24

pero global, kung dstiny mo maging doktor, kahit ano p ang gawin mo magiging doktor k diba.

kasi
DESTINY (n.)
1. The events that will happen to a person, seen as unable to be changed.
2. The hidden power believed to control what will happen in the future.

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 11:29

Actually guys, we dont have to talk about destiny, cause, its already happening to us .... :) .... destiny is the path of your life ... and choice is the decision you'll make while leading to that path...

no, as i've said, destiny contradicts freedom... Saying that your destined to something means no matter what you do, that thing will happen:hyper:

aLgiE

14th Jun '07 Thu, 11:35

i think guys its a relative word ... its not contradicting any.. freedom has nothing to do with destiny .... destiny is your path ... whatever your choices are, it still is leading to your path ....

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 11:43

i think guys its a relative word ... its not contradicting any.. freedom has nothing to do with destiny .... destiny is your path ... whatever your choices are, it still is leading to your path ....

all I can say is that it is logically weird... well anyway lunch time guys:snack:... smell yah later...:hyper:

jong-jong

14th Jun '07 Thu, 11:43

galing ni algie! :excited:

medyo naggets ko gusto mo sabihin pero di naxado,

pde pki laborate?

Lancelot

14th Jun '07 Thu, 12:22

naku medyo malabo po ang nilalaman nito ... pero mukang inaalis mu na sa tao ang kakayahan nya na mag change at magcope sa society. Asan ang free will dito??? eto sagot ko qouted yan di yan galing sa akin(hmm kanino kaya???)[COLOR="#008888"][I]because God knows we have a freewill and can stand up, get a choice and move on...

ano malabo dun?
Ouch, what about losers. . . this statement implies that it's also God's will to put some of us in a sorry situation

ngaun nasa sorry situation kba? freewill mo at choices mo yan..

sagot ko..
because God knows we have a freewill and can stand up, get a choice and move on...

me kulang lang.. move on our path...

ang saken lang naman... wlang losers.

ako, I do believe in GOD pero not in destiny xe its way too far from reality... Napaka ideallistic ng iniisip mung mundo pag ganun...

idealistic yes.. how about dream o pangarap dba hindi realistic un at wlang bayad? nagiging realistic un kung ur making a choices and making your own freewill dba?

lahat po tau naniniwala ke GOD, but still GOD doing something for our path.. kung dipo kau naniniwala sa destiny? papano po ang mga dreams o pangarap?

-Lancelot

felinor

14th Jun '07 Thu, 13:43

haay, ganda talaga basta destiny ang pinagusapan

aLgiE

14th Jun '07 Thu, 13:47

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 14:22

ano malabo dun?

di mu kita??? Sa tingin mu bakit ko ginamit ung sarili mung sinabi against you... hmm...

ngaun nasa sorry situation kba? freewill mo at choices mo yan..

nope, I'm definitely fine.... At tama ka... whatever I do/I have done... choice ko nga un... I survive and fall because of my decisions .. Teka lang... Pakilinaw lang po do you believe in destiny or not??? magulo po kasi eh...

me kulang lang.. move on our path...

ang saken lang naman... wlang losers.

wala??? anung tawag mu dun sa kahit anu gawin eh di nila nakukuha ang gusto nila???

idealistic yes.. how about dream o pangarap dba hindi realistic un at wlang bayad? nagiging realistic un kung ur making a choices and making your own freewill dba?

lahat po tau naniniwala ke GOD, but still GOD doing something for our path.. kung dipo kau naniniwala sa destiny? papano po ang mga dreams o pangarap?

yup, dreams are not reallistic... sakin positive ang effect ng dreams/ambitions xe nga iniisip mu na kaya mo yung mga ibang bagay... because of these you strive harder... Kabaliktaran ito ng desiny kung saan iniisip mu na plantsado na ang lahat, na kahit anung gawin mo eh kung ano para sayo, yun nayon... wala ka nang mababago...

Does the human brain have the power to intercept one's life line? ... Destiny is your Life line ... your Path ... Even before you made decisions, you are already destined to a certain path ..that is destiny ... at the course of your path, you fall, you win ..but still HUman has only one Life Line ....

Yup, and actually your doing it right now... Iniisip mu na may destiny... Anu ba ginagamit mu sa pagiisip??? diba brain...
So kung iniisip mu na may destiny, what comes next??? dito na iikot ang mga gagawin mo

jong-jong

14th Jun '07 Thu, 16:35

Does the human brain have the power to intercept one's life line? ... Destiny is your Life line ... your Path ... Even before you made decisions, you are already destined to a certain path ..that is destiny ... at the course of your path, you fall, you win ..but still HUman has only one Life Line ....

so wala ka pa ring choice?

kasi kung destined ka na sa isang path bago ka pa gumawa ng decision e parang nglolokohan na tayo...

kasi binigyan tayo ng freewill db...

paano natin un magagamit kung bago pa man tayo ngdesisyon e meron nang ngdesisyon para sa atin?

Lancelot

14th Jun '07 Thu, 16:38

di mu kita??? Sa tingin mu bakit ko ginamit ung sarili mung sinabi against you... hmm...

baket di mo quote? dnaman ako bulag? explain mo with contradiction..

nope, I'm definitely fine.... At tama ka... whatever I do/I have done... choice ko nga un... I survive and fall because of my decisions .. Teka lang... Pakilinaw lang po do you believe in destiny or not??? magulo po kasi eh...

choices ka ng choices, freewill ka ng freewill, walang ka naman path na pupuntahan... baka iba talaga ang destiny mo?

Yes i believe in destiny..

wala??? anung tawag mu dun sa kahit anu gawin eh di nila nakukuha ang gusto nila???

ikaw ano tawag mo sa sarili mo pag di mo nakuha ang gusto mo? para saken hindi losers... we are not losers..

idealistic yes.. how about dream o pangarap dba hindi realistic un at wlang bayad? nagiging realistic un kung ur making a choices and making your own freewill dba?

lahat po tau naniniwala ke GOD, but still GOD doing something for our path.. kung dipo kau naniniwala sa destiny? papano po ang mga dreams o pangarap?

yup, dreams are not reallistic... sakin positive ang effect ng dreams/ambitions xe nga iniisip mu na kaya mo yung mga ibang bagay... because of these you strive harder... Kabaliktaran ito ng desiny kung saan iniisip mu na plantsado na ang lahat, na kahit anung gawin mo eh kung ano para sayo, yun nayon... wala ka nang mababago...

look likes their are same.. when in comes to striving harder ikamo..

Yup, and actually your doing it right now... Iniisip mu na may destiny... Anu ba ginagamit mu sa pagiisip??? diba brain...
So kung iniisip mu na may destiny, what comes next??? dito na iikot ang mga gagawin mo[/color]

nonsense, hindi malabo. destiny is a set of location or path wlang na po next..

your rational thinking going nowhere, yes napatunayan ko na walang kang destiny, yes you are perfectly kind of man..

These one last question and before i leave these thread..
If God give you 1 sec to choice, your destiny or your good choices, decisions and humble freewill?

kasi kung destined ka na sa isang path bago ka pa gumawa ng decision e parang nglolokohan na tayo...kasi binigyan tayo ng freewill db...

desisions and freewill is like a paddle sa dagat, ika nga, you can't make a path or destined without and decisions... ex. un sa dagat, alangan naman un path mo eh babangga sa isang bangka hindi kba magdedecide or gamitin un freewill mo para umayos ang path mo? un decisions and freewill natin ay nagsisilbing paddle para mapunta tayo sa destiny naten..

Thanks for sharing... :p

-Lancelot

aLgiE

14th Jun '07 Thu, 16:41

wasak

14th Jun '07 Thu, 16:42

free will / destiny
:noidea:

rentao_15

14th Jun '07 Thu, 16:47

so wala ka pa ring choice?

kasi kung destined ka na sa isang path bago ka pa gumawa ng decision e parang nglolokohan na tayo...

kasi binigyan tayo ng freewill db...

paano natin un magagamit kung bago pa man tayo ngdesisyon e meron nang ngdesisyon para sa atin?

i think algie's perception is mainly focused on God's mystical power to create a path to all of us... i mean God has already given us the destined way to ride on...

He gave us freewill??? right!!!.... thats why we think in every decisions we make...

this is a test to us (in my own opinion) God knows already what we would decide and choose... He tests us... but He knows what decisions and choices we would take in every transition point of our life... thats how the "destiny" term clings on my brain whenever I hear that word... (own opinion lang po)

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 18:50

baket di mo quote? dnaman ako bulag? explain mo with contradiction..

d ko quote para ipaalam sa'yo na your contradicting yourself . . .

choices ka ng choices, freewill ka ng freewill, walang ka naman path na pupuntahan...

where did you get that??? Choices and society are the constructors of my path in life

Yes i believe in destiny..

really, sori but can you describe this destiny you're talking about . . . Magkalinawan lang. . . Yung destiny ba na pinaniniwalaan mu eh yung def. na nilagay ko dito?

ikaw ano tawag mo sa sarili mo pag di mo nakuha ang gusto mo?

edi loser . . . Now your turn to answer . . .

*Sori di ko na gets ung mga sumunod na arguments mu*

walang nag dedesisyon sa atin anduling.. yung desisyon leads to your fate.. our destiny..

para malinaw lang ulit . . . Anu po sa inyo ang destiny?

Battosai

14th Jun '07 Thu, 19:44

Our destiny lies in the choices we make.

Sapul.

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 19:58

Contradictions, Contradictions, Contradictions . . .

polmartin300

14th Jun '07 Thu, 21:17

destiny depends on the choices we make in life and it doesn't contradict freedom.

yoh268

14th Jun '07 Thu, 23:30

dear me . . . How can something that is already fixed and done (like your destiny) be subjected to change??? Ah or maybe you're thinking that every people have a spectrum of destiny to choose from: You could throw out your 1st chosen destiny if you think it's not good and buy another destiny that will satisfy your present situation . . . Is this what you mean about destiny? ? ? Give me a break! Duh . . . Your more than a God if you have this tremendous power and this not free will is all about. Keywords: free will, destiny, binary opposite/s:hyper:

Lovely Face

15th Jun '07 Fri, 00:51

Oops, but don't forget that God causes ALL THINGS to work together for Good to those who love Him.(Romans 8:28-29) So hindi rin kawawa yun.

patay, bible verse ang sinagot . . . Magmumukha tuloy akong atheist pag kinalaban ko to . . . Tsk3x . . .

If you watched Bruce Almighty... God just cant say YES to everyone...

hehe funny. . . Using fiction to support their argument . . . Hmm xe tiklop talaga ko pag kay God na ang usapan . . .

All I can say is, the best talaga ang Religion sa pagdevelop sa pagiging tao natin . . . Ito din kasi ang sandalan natin sa mga hindi natin maexplain . . . Pero sa kadalasan, kalaban ito ng rational thinking at science

Bakit naman "patay???" ganyan ba talaga ang dating kapag nagme mention or nag ko quote ng bible verse???ganyan ba talaga ang reaction???
hehe funny. . . Using fiction to support their argument . . . Hmm xe tiklop talaga ko pag kay God na ang usapan . . .

Sample lang yun..what im trying to say is that hindi puedeng sagutin ng Diyos ng oo ang lahat ng hinihiling natin.

MAbuti naman at tumitiklop ka pagdating kay God

JenG

15th Jun '07 Fri, 07:23

guys...we are just ask to give our own point of view here so please respect each and everyone's opinion...wag tayong magkainitan dito...

kerstinne25

15th Jun '07 Fri, 08:04

Salamat at madaming nagbabahagi ng mga opinyon at inpormasyon dito sa thread na ito. Muli ay maraming maraming salamat.

Subalit nais kong ipaalala lamang po na kung maari lamang ay panatilihin natin ang MAGANDA, MATIWASAY AT MAKABULUHANG palitan ng kuru-kuro.

Madami ng threads ang naisara dahil sa hindi magandang daloy ng palitan ng kuru-kuro. Mga usapang nahantong sa iringan ng magkabilang panig. Parinigan. At kung minsan pa ay murahan. Nakapanghihinayang na maisara ang isang magandang thread dahil lamang sa pagnanais natin na maipaabot ang ating mga kuru-kuro at opinyon.

Yun lamang po. Alam na ninyo ang ibig kong sabihin.

:)

*************

TULOY ANG LIGAYA :wave:

DO YOU BELIEVE IN DESTINY?

hala. sagot na!

yoh268

15th Jun '07 Fri, 08:54

Bakit naman "patay???" ganyan ba talaga ang dating kapag nagme mention or nag ko quote ng bible verse???ganyan ba talaga ang reaction???

Alam nyo naman po ang sagot diba??? going against the bible/what the bible says is like entering a walled city... The only way to get into it is to destroy the wall... Its against the law xe (1)trespassing (2)damage to property...

Sample lang yun..what im trying to say is that hindi puedeng sagutin ng Diyos ng oo ang lahat ng hinihiling natin.

yah.. and very good sample indeed...

MAbuti naman at tumitiklop ka pagdating kay God

I'll take this as a complement... thanx

kerstinne25

15th Jun '07 Fri, 12:40

OFF TOPIC NA KAU!

BUMALIK KAU SA USAPANG DESTINY! PALAYO NA KAU AH!

ANG KKULIT NYO A! SECOND WARNING NA ITO!

WAG NYO NG HINTAYIN NA I CLOSE ANG THREAD NA TO!

:ranting::ranting::ranting::ranting::ranting:

JenG

15th Jun '07 Fri, 13:07

hala galit na c kers...kasi naman masyado affected sa topic!! chilax guys!!!

hmx_ryan

15th Jun '07 Fri, 13:08

Yup, I do... But before, I don't...

Kasi ang GF ko ngayon ay Crush ko talaga nung Elementary pa lang kami... hehehehe... we went to different High School and took different courses at different Universities... After 11 years, nagkita kami sa isang mall dito sa dvao... kakabreak lang namin ng GF ko noon at sya naman ay 1 year na wala na sila ng dating BF nya... hehehehe... I don't really believe on this matter until I finally felt and proven its true... Hindi ko sana balak pumunta ng Mall that time kaya lang may force na nag-dra-drive sa akin para pumunta... hehe.. I found her sa isang botique... I invited her for a diner and she doesn't refuse it... after that syempre, text-text, tawag-tawag, at ngayon she's my GF... We are both happy... I love her so much...

Now, if you call it DESTINY, then maybe it is... as for now I don't even know what is it... But, if its what we called DESTINY, I'm so happy that theres a thing like this exist...

JenG

15th Jun '07 Fri, 13:16

yes ryan that is indeed a destiny...baka magsoulmate pa kayo!!! saya naman ng love story ninyo...

Battosai

15th Jun '07 Fri, 17:58

Expand ko lang yung original point ko.

Our destiny lies in the choices we make.

Sapul.

The choices that we make in our lives will eventually lead us to where we are destined to be. We hold our own destiny in our hands.

Why?

For example, you're a student. You choose to strive hard on your studies. Depending on your talents, it will eventually lead to academic achievements. Now if you went the other way around at nagbulakbol, e syempre bagsak ang aabutin mo. You were destined to fail because you chose not to study.

In terms of lovelife naman, parang yung kwento ni hmx, his life choices led him to his current GF. True, he probably made mistakes along the way, normal lang yun, but mistakes makes a man wiser, and making the decsion to go to the mall, it eventually led him to that point in time where hmx and his GF's paths crossed. Yun ang destiny nila.

A little divine intervention wouldn't hurt too. :) Pag good ka, ok ka, pag bad ka, lagot ka! Hehehe. Pwede rin pala haluan to ng karma. Like the other thread.

Simple lang diba? :salute:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e2/George_1955.JPG/250px-George_1955.JPG
I am your DENSITY. :lol:

.rika

15th Jun '07 Fri, 18:36

I believe that there's a destiny but still, it's a matter of choice. In our life, our decisions is in our hands. People around us can't decide for ourselves. It's up to you, if you will follow what your heart/mind says. Even if what will happen in your life is destined to be, you still have the POWER to change it or go for it.

yoh268

15th Jun '07 Fri, 19:35

Wahaha grabe kuya hmx . . . Nabubuhay nanaman tuloy ang aking soft side . . . Pero i think hindi po ata destiny yun . . . I still believe na something other than that causes it/made it possible . . . Have you heard of the butterfly effect? ? ? Ang cool nito . . . :rock:

felinor

15th Jun '07 Fri, 20:48

hmmm tawag nyan SERENDIPITY
di ba, but i don't care if its true or not as long as it makes d people happy without hurting someone

InstilledBee

15th Jun '07 Fri, 20:52

just want to asked you guys, if u believe in destiny?
share nman kayo ha... tnx... :)

seeing is believing... in short, since di ko pa nakikita... i won't believe... yet. :beat:

yoh268

15th Jun '07 Fri, 21:13

yah tama . . . Serendipity is the perfect word for that . . . Thanx:lufet:

JenG

15th Jun '07 Fri, 22:55

ung nga diba ung movie na SERENDIPITY...watch it para mgkaidea kayo...ganda!!!

yoh268

15th Jun '07 Fri, 23:21

serendipity and destiny differ in (1)spelling (2)meaning

akachan

17th Jun '07 Sun, 16:19

Hmm.. well guys THANKS for sharing all your opinions dto sa topic na open ko:
"DO YOU BELIEVE IN DESTINY?"...

But hindi ko to post para magka-iringan kayu hehehe... :)
Just want to know all points of view about DESTINY....

Again, guys thanks for sharing... :)

wesley14

17th Jun '07 Sun, 16:22

man makes his own destiny

akachan

17th Jun '07 Sun, 16:42

akachan

17th Jun '07 Sun, 16:47

man makes his own destiny

yup really right west... :(

boypancit

17th Jun '07 Sun, 17:48

aun nmn pla eh.. dami explanation regarding this case.. so aun.. we are the captain of our ship sailing in our own destiny..

yoh268

18th Jun '07 Mon, 10:55

Well, here's my story share ko lng sa inyo...
kaya want ko malaman opinion nyo about DESTINY...

I have a bf before, we spent 5yrs. in our relationship.
Fiancee ko na cya. 3yrs. pa lng kami nag-proposed na
cya. More good memories to treasure.. Laughter, Tears,
etc. To make the story short, we ended up nothing...
Sad but true.. :(

After many years, nagkaron ako ng family of my own.
But again, 3yrs. of being mum & as a wife... My married
life didnt succeed at all. Now, im in my process of filing
my Annulment. God knows i tried my best to work things out
for the sake of my son na din. But hangang dun na lng
talaga eh... :(

To make the story short, by an accident nagkita ulit kami ng
ex-fiancee ko na naging bf ko ng 5yrs. For old time sake,
nagka-kwentuhan kami mga life namin. We became friends
now & he's been nice to my son.

Honestly, sa 3yrs. kung may asawa ala akong balita sa kanya
now ko lng nalaman na nung time may asawa ako nakikibalita
pa rin pala cya sa family ko about me. Nilihim lng un ng family ko
coz may family na nga ako. And up to now, wala pa din cyang asawa.

Now guys, help me w/ dis.. Wat do u think?
Is he really my DESTINY? :(

"Linked by DESTINY, binded by TIME... only GOD knows why"
(quote made by myself)....

Feel free to comment w/ my story.. negative & positive opinion
is well appreciated... Thanks a lot....

Now, im trying to MOVE ON w/ my life w/ my son.

hmm... I think not... Nagkita uli kayo xe simple lang, nagcross ung path nyo (literally) na hindi naman malabo mangyari diba??? Wala pa rin siyang asawa??? baka ayaw niya (o baka secret din)...

BUTTERFLY EFFECT The phrase refers to the idea that a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that ultimately cause a tornado to appear (or prevent a tornado from appearing). The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different.

Actually mathematical term ito pero may koneksyon naman... Ang gusto ko lang sabihin is... Lahat ng ginagawa natin eh malaki ang epekto nito sa ating buhay... As in lahat ng bagay ha!!! Halimbawa kung nakawhite t-shirt ka ngayon, ayon sa theory na yan, eh maaring iba yung mangyari kung ibang kulay ng t-shirt ang suot mo... Sa madaling salita eh conektado lahat ng mga bagay... My rationality naman diba??? kesa naman isipin mu na may destiny, well aaminin ko may certain rationality naman ito pero bulag

Battosai

18th Jun '07 Mon, 11:34

akachan

18th Jun '07 Mon, 14:56

BUTTERFLY EFFECT The phrase refers to the idea that a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that ultimately cause a tornado to appear (or prevent a tornado from appearing). The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different.

Actually mathematical term ito pero may koneksyon naman... Ang gusto ko lang sabihin is... Lahat ng ginagawa natin eh malaki ang epekto nito sa ating buhay... As in lahat ng bagay ha!!! Halimbawa kung nakawhite t-shirt ka ngayon, ayon sa theory na yan, eh maaring iba yung mangyari kung ibang kulay ng t-shirt ang suot mo... Sa madaling salita eh conektado lahat ng mga bagay... My rationality naman diba??? kesa naman isipin mu na may destiny, well aaminin ko may certain rationality naman ito pero bulag

well, may point ka din.. :) thanks for sharing... :)

akachan

18th Jun '07 Mon, 15:20

yoh268

18th Jun '07 Mon, 16:07

Anyway, ano circumstances ng breakup mo with your ex fianceé? At least on the good side he gets along with your child.

--> cause of break-up is we/he are/is not yet ready to take new life as husband & wife. decide kami mag-let go muna kami. but atlist now, watever the reasons why nagkita kami ulit accidentally is not impt anymore. impt. right now is we remained friends nman. just go on with the flow... that's life.

yah tama... friends ang pinakamahalag sa isang tao.... Tignan nalang natin ang luvstory nyo kung s'an mapupunta... Pero I guess this is not the right time for you to fall in love again... Hekhek pero decision mu pa rin ang masusunod:thumbsup:

Battosai

18th Jun '07 Mon, 17:36

--> cause of break-up is we/he are/is not yet ready to take new life as husband & wife. decide kami mag-let go muna kami. but atlist now, watever the reasons why nagkita kami ulit accidentally is not impt anymore. impt. right now is we remained friends nman. just go on with the flow... that's life.

How old were you when you broke up? Maybe age had played a part in it. Pero to let go just because you were not ready? Maybe di ganun ka strong ang faith ninyo sa isa't-isa. Or you had lack in communication. Moving on, it's not good to dwell in the past but you can do what you can in the present so you can reap it's rewards in the future. Who knows, baka kayo tapat talaga, it just wasn't the right time nung nag plan kayo to get married. Just be careful where you go from here and be sure of his intentions. Good luck!

:salute:

akachan

20th Jun '07 Wed, 02:51

yah tama... friends ang pinakamahalag sa isang tao.... Tignan nalang natin ang luvstory nyo kung s'an mapupunta... Pero I guess this is not the right time for you to fall in love again... Hekhek pero decision mu pa rin ang masusunod

How old were you when you broke up? Maybe age had played a part in it. Pero to let go just because you were not ready? Maybe di ganun ka strong ang faith ninyo sa isa't-isa. Or you had lack in communication. Moving on, it's not good to dwell in the past but you can do what you can in the present so you can reap it's rewards in the future. Who knows, baka kayo tapat talaga, it just wasn't the right time nung nag plan kayo to get married. Just be careful where you go from here and be sure of his intentions. Good luck!

--> thanks sobra... :)

for us: 'FRIENDSHIP is important than COMMITMENT".... no expectations & conflicts... :)

Battosai

24th Jun '07 Sun, 22:47

There is a fine line between coincidence and fate...

BlueFish

27th Jun '07 Wed, 13:18

I don't believe in destiny.
We have the freedom to choose.

rhope016

3rd Jul '07 Tue, 19:57

I do believe in destiny...it's always a part of our life even though others don't believe on it...it's like serendipity...to all believers of destiny...here's my advice...just go with the flow...;)

yoh268

4th Jul '07 Wed, 15:29

I do believe in destiny...it's always a part of our life even though others don't believe on it...it's like serendipity...to all believers of destiny...here's my advice...just go with the flow...;)

destiny, fate and serendiipity are three different things!!!

des·ti·ny (dĕs'tə-nē)
n., pl. -nies.

1. The inevitable or necessary fate to which a particular person or thing is destined; one's lot.
2. A predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control: “Marriage and hanging go by destiny” (Robert Burton).
3. The power or agency thought to predetermine events: Destiny brought them together.

[Middle English destine, from Old French destinee, from feminine past participle of destiner, to destine, from Latin dēstināre, to determine.]

fate (fāt)
n.

1.
1. The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events.
2. The inevitable events predestined by this force.
2. A final result or consequence; an outcome.
3. Unfavorable destiny; doom.
4. Fates Greek & Roman Mythology. The three goddesses, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos, who control human destiny. Used with the.

[Middle English, from Old French fat, from Latin fātum, prophecy, doom, from neuter past participle of fārī, to speak.]

ser·en·dip·i·ty (sĕr'ən-dĭp'ĭ-tē)
n., pl. -ties.

1. The faculty of making fortunate discoveries by accident.
2. The fact or occurrence of such discoveries.
3. An instance of making such a discovery.

[From the characters in the Persian fairy tale The Three Princes of Serendip, who made such discoveries, from Persian Sarandīp, Sri Lanka, from Arabic sarandīb.]

dknight178

6th Jul '07 Fri, 19:51

i don't think there's such a thing as destiny, there are only accidents and coincidences in life. Everything's a result of our own decisions (except un weather and natural non manmade events). consider this: if there's indeed destiny or "predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control", that means that even if we don't do something, it would still happens. assuming there's destiny, then does that mean i could just lie in my bed, not think of what to do, avoid deciding on my life and leave everything to destiny?
besides, destiny is just an alibi of people who are afraid to make decisions. It is a statement of desperation by those who lost hope in themselves. It is invoked by people who have virtually raised their white flags.