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RENEWABLE ENERGY investors stressed the importance of the feed-in tariff saying that existing projects in the country are losing money.
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“For the wind sector, it is very difficult to proceed without the feed-in tariff.” He added that the costs of running big renewable energy facilities like wind farms outweigh the returns.

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Ethanol and geothermal is our ace. The wind turbine of Ilocos is just a show off of shell company to show that they are concern of our mother nature. Chevron is the owner of the geothermal power plant here in our province, but news said that the lopez bought the plant.

monopoly is the culprit.



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the country's total estimated potential of untapped geothermal resource is about 2,600 MW.

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the Philippines generated 1930 megawatts

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ang kaunti naman. 2.6 gw left and 1.9 gw currently in operation.

in 2010, philipine electricity consumption was 48.96gw. in 2011, it was 54.4gw or an addition of 5.4 gw

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due to factors such as population growth and economic growth, the increase in consumption of electricity can ubos the untapped geothermal energy of the phils


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Ethanol and geothermal is our ace. The wind turbine of Ilocos is just a show off of shell company to show that they are concern of our mother nature. Chevron is the owner of the geothermal power plant here in our province, but news said that the lopez bought the plant.

monopoly is the culprit.
if monopoly is the culprit then bakit pati sa UK namamahalan sila? kasalanan ba ni GMA yan?

here's a report from the house of lords, equivalent to the philippine senate
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CHAPTER 7: RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS

232. We cannot consider renewable energy in isolation from the rest of the UK energy system and we support measures to include nuclear plants as an essential element of the UK's energy mix (paragraph 74).

233. The cost of electricity from onshore wind farms at good locations would only be comparable with that from fossil fuel generators when the prices of oil, gas and coal are very high or allowance is made for the price imposed for carbon emissions permits (effectively a tax). It is more expensive than nuclear generated power—base cost 7 pence per kWh, as opposed to around 4 pence per kWh for the other technologies. Offshore wind, biomass, wave and tidal power are even more expensive. And these estimates exclude the additional costs of integrating more renewable generation into Britain's electricity grid (paragraph 74).

234. Future developments depend upon many variable factors But it seems clear that the base costs of generation of electricity from onshore wind are likely to remain considerably higher than those of fossil or nuclear generation and that costs of generation of marine or solar renewable electricity are higher still (paragraph 85). We hope that the Energy Technologies Institute's work will yield technological advance and lower costs. The Government should consider, perhaps in collaboration with others, offering a substantial annual prize for the best technological contribution to renewable energy development (paragraph 93).

235. Although their declared purpose is to improve the environment, it is clear that renewable energy installations can also have adverse environmental impacts which the Government should bear in mind as it weighs the benefits and costs of expansion of renewable generation (paragraph 96).

236. Fluctuations in wind speed lead to short term changes in electricity output from wind farms. Greater use of wind power and other intermittent renewable sources therefore requires more backup generation capacity to respond very quickly to, for example, reductions in the output of wind turbines when the wind drops. But the technical challenges and costs of backup generation on a scale large enough to balance an electricity system with a high proportion of intermittent renewable generation are still uncertain. Whereas the highest share of intermittent renewable electricity now being generated in Europe is 15% in Denmark, the UK is expected to reach a share of some 30%-40%. We recommend that the Government should ensure that further work is carried out to clarify the costs and encourage development of technical solutions to deal with intermittency (paragraph 104).

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Britain's so-called "dash for wind" means that it is now the biggest off shore generator – producing as much as the rest of the world put together.

But costs of building the farms have doubled due to spiralling prices for steel and the drop in the value of the pound.

The running costs are also increasing.

The report found that costs have risen for all kinds of generation but off shore wind farms remain by far the most expensive – 90 per cent more than fossil fuel generators and 50 per cent more than nuclear.

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if monopoly is the culprit then bakit pati sa UK namamahalan sila? kasalanan ba ni GMA yan?

here's a report from the house of lords, equivalent to the philippine senate


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Brad wala akong sinabi na kasalanan ni GMA. Aheeem *cough* .... *cough*

Basahin mo sinabi ko, ethanol at geothermal. Magastos din yang wind energy. At hindi ko sinabi na hihigupin agad nang geothermal power plant ng lahat nang energy consumption nang buong pilipinas. Sa ethanol naman, meron tayung kapatagan kung saan halos mga sugarcane ung tinatanim.

Ponto ko, hindi namin naramdaman ung pag baba nang presyo nang kuryente, kahit na my geothermal powerplant dito.



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the problem with biofuels like ethanol is , you take away land that's used for growing food and convert it to land producing crops for fuel

between the rising philippine population on one hand and the land for growing food being grabbed by ethanol producers and housing developers/squatters, baka maubusan tayo ng food

however in moderation and combined with a mix of other non-co2 producing energy sources like nuclear, solar, geo, hydro and wind, ethanol and other biofuels have their place. I emphasize the mix because fossil fuels are sooooo good and convenient that you need a mix of many alternative power technologies to replace them



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Brad wala akong sinabi na kasalanan ni GMA. Aheeem *cough* .... *cough*


Ponto ko, hindi namin naramdaman ung pag baba nang presyo nang kuryente, kahit na my geothermal powerplant dito.
nakita ko brad ang ponto mo, kung bababa ba ang presyo o hindi in relation to what kind of power source, at ang sagot mo sa geothermal power hindi, kaya kung maging hydroelectric o kahit ano malamang ganun parin,ang tanong[sa lahat]bakit kaya?lets say alisin na natin ang factor na pandagdag ng energy source, sa kaso ng nuclear plant paano nalang ang risk factor?
ang tanong may malaking pakinabang ba ang additional power source
sa halip na malaki din ang risk factor?



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kun magkaroon man, sana tayo ang may ari at hindi foreign..


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actually sabi ng prof ko ngaun college at teacher ko nung elem,
mas safe ang nuclear power plant kesa sa gamit ntin ngaun to generate power. kya nga isa ang pilipinas sa pinakamahal magsingil ng kuryente eh. dahil yan sa ginagamit na power ng M*****O

kya lng nmn kc may ayaw sa nuclear power plant dahil sa pangalan nito na nuclear.
when we say nuclear kc, pumapasok sa tenga at napprocess sa utak ni juan dela cruz na nkakatakot, hnd safe dahil na rin sa iniisip nila na nuclear ito. pero hnd po ito ung NUCLEAR WEAPON!

at isa pa nakadagdag pa sa alinlangan ung nangyari sa japan.

kya nga bulok lahat ng sistema d2 sa atin. wala man lng pagbabago.


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