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Although Irenaeus (2nd century AD) affirmed the number to be 666 and reported several scribal errors of the number, there is still a minority of theologians who have doubt about the original reading[10] because of the figure 616 being given in Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus (C; Paris), one of the four great uncial codices, as well as by the Latin version of Tyconius (DCXVI, ed. Souter in the Journal of Theology, SE, April 1913), and by an ancient Armenian version (ed. Conybaere, 1907). Irenaeus knew about the 616 reading, but did not adopt it



ang ginamit po dyan ay hindi Roman Numeral kundi gematria ng hebrew na kahalintulad ng roman numeral


Identification by gematria

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. (Rev.13:18-NKJV)
In Greek isopsephy and Hebrew gematria, every letter has a corresponding number. Summing these numbers gives a numeric value to a word or name. The use of isopsephy to calculate "the number of the beast" is used in many of the below interpretations.

An Aramaic scroll from Murabba'at, dated to "the second year of Emperor Nero", refers to him by his name and title.[38] In Hebrew it is Nron Qsr (Pronounced "Nerōn Kaisar"). In Latin it is Nro Qsr (Pronounced "Nerō Kaisar").
Nron Qsr

The Greek version of the name and title transliterates into Hebrew as נרונ קסר, and yields a numerical value of 666,[38] as shown:
Resh (ר) Samekh (ס) Qoph (ק) Nun (נ) Vav (ו) Resh (ר) Nun (נ) Sum
200 60 100 50 6 200 50 666


Nro Qsr
The Latin version of the name drops the second Nun (נ), so that it appears as Nro and transliterates into Hebrew as נרו קסר, yielding 616:[17]
Resh (ר) Samekh (ס) Qoph (ק) Vav (ו) Resh (ר) Nun (נ) Sum
200 60 100 6 200 50 616

Its reffer to emperor nero


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the beast named 666 killed the two prophets; emperor caesar nero killed sts. peter and paul. one of the seven heads has a mortal wound in the neck, nero died of self inflicted wound in his throat by committing suicide. the beast's wound was healed, a new emperor rose in the person of domitian and revived the persecution of roman christians. the persecution was so severe that christians thought that nero came back from the grave. it was during the reign of domitian that st. john wrote the book of apocalypsis, it is domitian who commanded mandatory emperor worship and imposed a law that banned to engage in any industry in the empire anyone who has not the certificate of offering incense to the statue of the emperor.
napakalinaw sa history kung sino yung 666 or 616, tnt



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the beast named 666 killed the two prophets; emperor caesar nero killed sts. peter and paul. one of the seven heads has a mortal wound in the neck, nero died of self inflicted wound in his throat by committing suicide. the beast's wound was healed, a new emperor rose in the person of domitian and revived the persecution of roman christians. the persecution was so severe that christians thought that nero came back from the grave. it was during the reign of domitian that st. john wrote the book of apocalypsis, it is domitian who commanded mandatory emperor worship and imposed a law that banned to engage in any industry in the empire anyone who has not the certificate of offering incense to the statue of the emperor.
napakalinaw sa history kung sino yung 666 or 616, tnt
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sabi sa Lumang KasuLatan ay '616' pero sa modern na saLin na eh '666'..pero whatever kung ano man siya ay number pa rin siya ng 'DIABLO'..



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sabi sa Lumang KasuLatan ay '616' pero sa modern na saLin na eh '666'..pero whatever kung ano man siya ay number pa rin siya ng 'DIABLO'..
Its a sign of Anti-Christ


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may nabasa din ako tulad nito na may kinalaman din ung number na 111 777 im not sure try ko basahin or ishare dito.



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marami talagang interpretations ang bible.mahirap i decipher.maraming kahalintulad.lahat naman yan ay mananatiling opinion lamang pagkat ang Diyos lang ang nakakaalam kung ano at sino ba ang binabanggit sa talinhaga.ang mga tao lang ay malayang magpahayag ng kanilang saloobin sa mga nababasa nila sa bible.


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marami talagang interpretations ang bible.mahirap i decipher.maraming kahalintulad.lahat naman yan ay mananatiling opinion lamang pagkat ang Diyos lang ang nakakaalam kung ano at sino ba ang binabanggit sa talinhaga.ang mga tao lang ay malayang magpahayag ng kanilang saloobin sa mga nababasa nila sa bible.
what would be the use of scriptures if that is the case?
clearly, st. john wrote that for the christians of his time so that amidst in the turbulence of persecutions they may find comfort in the promises of Christ. to us, they are the lessons of courage and an invitation to follow their example.



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