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Literati Presents: Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [Nais kong Gumuhit]11/17

Interpretasyon at Pabasa




Babala: kung ikaw ay mahusay sa larangang panitikan at literatura huwag ka ng tumuloy sa pagbabasa matitiyak ko na mabobored ka lang..



Isa akong mangingibig ng panitikan, lalo na ng mga tula. Sapol pa ng ako'y maghighschool at matututong gumamit ng gel (wala pa kasing wax noon at laos na ang pamada).

Para sa akin ang pagtrato sa isang tula ay parang pagtrato sa isang dalagang iniibig. Sinusuyo, inuunawa kahit ang hirap espelengen, nilalambing kahit nagsusungit, hinihimas sa tamang parte at paraan at higit sa lahat ninanamnam. (wag AZ mentality. Ang tinutukoy kong pagnamnam ay yung pinapahalagahan ang bawat sandali na kasama mo sya.)






Inuulit ko, kung bihasa kana sa panitikan at tula wag mo na ituloy ang pagbabasa.







So tumuloy ka pa din? Walang sisihan:lol:




Kaya ko nga pala ginawa ang thread na ito ay dahil sa pagnanais kong mabigyang halaga ang mga gawa ng kapwa ko manunulang taga-symbianize.

Isa pang dahilan ay upang yung mga di bihasang kagaya ko ay makapagsuri at makaunawa sa mas malalim pang paraan ng pagbasa sa isang tula.

Oops! Teka lang, hindi ko sinasabing magaling ako at kayo hindi, ang mga paraan ng pagbasa na gagamitin ko sa thread na ito ay batay lamang sa mga karanasan ko at sa mga natutunan ko. (credits po kay G.Michael M. Coroza, wag mo nawa akong isumpa kung di mo magustuhan ang pagsusuri ko:pray:)

Tuloy po tayo, sa thread na ito ang gagamitin pong paraan ay Formalismo. Hindi tayo mag hahanap ng moral lesson sa mga tula:lol: bagkus babasahin natin at iinterpret ang texto ayon sa konteksto.

Teka ano ba yung texto at konteksto?

Ayun ang magandang tanung, yung texto hindi yan yung sasabihin mo pag hawak mo yung cp ng barkada mo tapos may nagtext sa kanya.(oi, text o!) hindi yan un ha.

Yung texto yung mismong nakasulat. Yung mga letra at linya ng tula. So dapat nakasulat sa tula.

Yung konteksto naman ay yung pagkakaugnay ng bawat linya sa loob ng isang akda. Ito yung premise na ginagalawan ng mga teksto.

Lalim ah..teka, parang ganito halimbawa nakita mo yung tropa mo na panget tapos nagbibiruan kayo, sinbihan mo sya na maganda sya. Ano ang dapat nyang isipin?

Ang texto eh yung sinabi mo na maganda sya. Ang kontexto eh yung nagbibiruan so ang dapat nyang isipin ay pangit sya:lol: bakit naman eh sinabi mo nga na maganda? Kasi nga ang kontexto ng pagkasabi mo nun eh nagbibiro ka ibig sabhin hindi talag sya maganda.

Mahalaga ang texto at kontexto sa ating pagbasa ng tula. Dito natin lubusang maiintindihan ang mga akda na ginawa. Matapos nya eh makakapagbigay tayo ng tamang interpretasyon sa sinasabi ng tula.

Minsan kasi iba yung sinasabi ng makata at iba yung lumalabas sa gawa nya ayon sa texto at kontexto.

Haba na ng intro ko:lol: bored ka na no?

Praktis yan kasi sa pagbasa at sa pagsusuri ng tula kailangan mo ng pasensya parang babae lang yan, mahal mo kaya dapat mo pagpasensyahan.

Saan ka naman kukuha ng tula na susuriin?

Malamang sa quotes and poetry section ng symbianize, masyado mahirap magsuro sa forum ng isang short story masakit sa kamay magtype.

Sa mga kapwa ko manunulat ng tula nawa ay payagan ninyo akong ifeature ang inyong tula sa thread na ito. Magpapaalam naman ako bago ko ilagay yun dito:lol:

Saka hindi okrayan thread ito, mas pagtutuunan natin ng pansin ang pag interpret at pagbasa sa tula. Maglalagay din ako ng points to consider.

So sa lahat ng baguhan na kagaya ko handa naba kayo? Papahalagahan natin ang mga paghihirap ng kapwa natin kaSYMBIANIZE.


Disclaimer: Ang lahat ng maisusulat na interpretasyon ay hindi final at executory. Hindi din yun ang absolute truth. Ito ay ayon lamang sa pagkakaunawa ko na ibinatay sa texto at kontexto upang maging pasimula sa mas malalim pang pagkaunawa sa bawat tula.


note: mods palipat nalang po kung wrong section.
 
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Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

ang galing! S0brang galing
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

the best talaga
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

tama nga ung naririnig koh ke boss psyk .. :clap: galing nyo boss mind dame koh natutunan senyo ... ngsusulat dn ako.. pero nd nabored s pagbabasa nito.. sobrang galing :clap:
:thanks: d2 boss mind
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

Salamat po sa inyong time na basahin. Dagdag kaalaman din sa ating mga sumusulat yung maunawaan natin ang perspective ng mga sumusuri. Makikita natin kung ano ang hinahanap nila at kung ano ba ang pakahulugan ng ating sinulat base sa pagkakasulay natin.
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

madame akong natutunan .. sana madame p kau maitulong... :salute: more power boss mind
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

Brad pag-sapan natin ang tungkol dito pag nag kita tayo. May gusto akong isuggest about dito. Gusto kong maging active din sa larangang ito (interpretasyon) ang lahat ng LITERATI, kasama na din ang mga tagasubaybay sa Arts and Lit.

You know what, I think you're missing your calling. You should be inside a classroom teaching and imparting these things to young minds. :salute:
 
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Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

akirayuri

kung magbabahagi ka ng tula, i guess pwede mo naman ipost yung sa as a thread sa quotes and poetry, kung magbabahagi ka dito, it should be an interpretation or gusto mo ipasuri yung poem na gawa mo.

kung interpretation naman yan, i do hope yung mga poems sa symbianize ang gawan ng interpretation kasi yun ang main purpose ng thread na ito.:hat:

gusto ko sana malaman ang interpretasyon mo sir mind^^freak..para malaman ko kung naipapahayag ko ng maayos ang aking sarili..:excited:

eto po sana ang tula,

Well of Life

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Clear water stays so calm,
Relaxing sound whisper in my ear,
I feel undying glory to come,
I know God will be near.

Pull me into Your well,
Make my worries farewell,
Don't waste the tears that fell,
Give my life a faithful sequel.

Bathe me and wash my tears,
Bring me light and cover my fears,
Fill me with your love,
Bless me up above.

Patch my darkest hole,
Nourish my empty soul,
Replace envy with longing peace,
Substitute anger with love with ease.

That well of everlasting life,
Filled with eternal holiness,
Water of infinite blessings,
Home of our God, your Highness.
:thanks:
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

Ako bro breaker, pwede bang mag-bigay ng interpretasyon ko sa tula mo? :)
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

dre
-mas magandang foundation ng pagsulat ang pagbasa.kaya tama ka dapat maging active tayo dito.

hinggil sa calling na yan:lol: siguro pang parental guidance ng konti baka kung anung maituro ko sa young minds:lol: alam mo naman ako. Masaya nga ako at may ganito sa symbianize kasi kahit di ako nakakapagturo formally eh nakakapagshare pa din ako.


breaker
i'll find time to interpret your poem.. Yun nga lang habaan mo ang pisi:lol:
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

May tanong ako brader mind if you wouldn't mind (trip ko lang mag-rap :rofl:) Pwede rin ba akong mag-bigay ng aking sariling interpretasyon sa thread mo?

Binasa ko kasi ng 2 times ung first page and wala namang nakalagay about other "tambays" of Arts and Lit section can give their own interpretations on a particular poem. So I just want to ask po, if pwede lang naman, di naman ako mapilit. Pero pumayag ka na he he he~! Just kidding~! :rofl:
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

wala naman pong problema doon.. as much as possible use the poems found in symbianize para lalong mahigh light.:hat:

just follow the format I use para di malito yung mga bumabasa.
 
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Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

Roger that~! Maraming salamat bro for allowing us to post in here with my own interpretations. :)
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

breaker, let me put my thoughts about your poem..heheh..testing :P

When speaking of a well, it connotes water. Water is a symbolism for life. The title tells about a source of life. But life is not life unless it is a fulfilled life - the life a person desires, a life that, as many says, is worth living for.

The author seeks the countenance of God. So the poem invokes God.

The author first described a water, a peaceful one. Water is alluded to life as stated above, to mean, what the life he described in his first stanza is different from what he has right now. He desires that kind of life, a calm and a peaceful life... and how will he get that kind of life, the fourth line calls for God.

The following stanzas give more emphases of his desire. He wanted God to grant him the kind of life he desires - worry free, a life that is worth living. The author is empty inside as he said. He may be showing good things to others, he may be doing good works but there is no satisfaction in what he does. He wanted a genuine love and he wanted to be filled with it. He wanted a holy life - a God serving life.

Moreover, on the spiritual side of the poem, he wanted that his humanly ways be carried by God on His shoulder. He desires a better relatonship with God. He wanted God to be part of his life.
 
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Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

sige Arci, i acquire thoughts of everyone..

uncle sam,
:thumbsup: i think i should focus more with the main topic i want to emphasize..:D
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

mali ata interpretasyon ko..hahahhaahhaha
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

ndi naman uncle sam..:D
ndi ko lang naipahayag ng husto ang gusto ko..:lol: pero summary, yun talaga yun..:D

hintayin ko interpretation ni sir mind at ng iba pa...ehehe
 
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Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

May gusto lang ako ipabasa sainyo at sana may makapaginterpret nito. Beckoning

Maraming salamat~! :)
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]

pa try po..

kung babasahin mo sya as a story maraming items na involve like yosi, room, square paper etc etc.. and it symbolizes something close within those given objects.

pero di pa din ako sure kung flaw nga ito dahil yun lang ang napansin kong naiiba, "come here" almost all of the objects and lines symbolizes a different meaning, but I think this line is in its "literal" form. Kung tama ako, naiintindihan ko yung poem, hehe and kung mali, hindi ko gets :p hehe
 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 11/14/11]



Pagbasa sa tula ni breaker004


Originally Posted by breaker004 ?


Clear water stays so calm,
Relaxing sound whisper in my ear,
I feel undying glory to come,
I know God will be near.

Pull me into Your well,
Make my worries farewell,
Don't waste the tears that fell,
Give my life a faithful sequel.i

Bathe me and wash my tears,
Bring me light and cover my fears,
Fill me with your love,
Bless me up above.

Patch my darkest hole,
Nourish my empty soul,
Replace envy with longing peace,
Substitute anger with love with ease.

That well of everlasting life,
Filled with eternal holiness,
Water of infinite blessings,
Home of our God, your Highness.




Hubaran portion:

Gusto ko magcreate ng isang larawan o mental image base sa poem na ito para makita natin yung pinakabasic tapos saka natin ilagay yung add ons.

Mula sa aking pag basa sa tula ang pinaka basic na images na nakikita ko ay isang persona at isang well. Pwede natin sabihin na katabi ng persona yung well, o nakaupo sya dito o tinitignan nya ito. Basta two main images. Isang persona at isang well. May pagka monologue din kasi hindi naman sumasagot yung well. Ayan may image na tayo na pwedeng pag-isipan.





Next stop tignan natin yung mga conotation nung mga images na nakikita natin doon sa tula.

Mayroong WELL, madami na tayong mahugugot dyan sa well, bukod sa tubig syempre. Kadalasan ang image na ito at maipapares natin sa mga kahilingan. Wishing well kumbaga. Kahit nga tayo eh pag nakakita ng well sa tunay na buhay ang naiisip batin ay wishing well. ?Hulog barya, pikit sabay hiling. Bagama't minsan sinisindikato na din ang mga well may mga naniniwala pa din dito:lol: Ang well din ay pinagkukuhaan ng tubig. Sa early civilizations ito ay napakahalaga kaya nga nag mula ang mga civilizations sa tabi ng ilog. So anung halaga ng well? Obvious naman diba nagbibigay ito ng tubig. Kung gayon ang well ay pwede din natin Gawing symbolo ng buhay..life giving, thirst quenching kung baga..

May isa pa akong na aalala sa image na ito. Yung sa Bible ata yun. Yung may samaritana at si Jesus, tapos nang hingi ng maiinum si Jesus. Wag kayo mag-alala hindi tayo mag bible study. Literature wise gumamit yung author ng allusion. Para kasing yung tagpo na yon ay parang yung image din nung persona at yung well. May konting twist nga lang. Kasi dun sa Biblical story hinalintulad ni Jesus yung sarili nya sa well, peri dito yung well ang gumamit naman ng attributes ni Jesus. Oh ayan magulo na:lol: don't worry mag eexpound tayo dyan.

Sa tula na ito itinuring ng persona ang Well bilang source ng buhay at kapayapaan, inner peace ha. Which is maganda naman kasi pasok naman yung image ng Well sa ganung attribute. Kung babalikan mo naman yung kwento nung samarian na babae at ni Jesus inialok ni Jesus ang sarili nya bilang tubig na banal same thing na gusto nung persona ng tula. Isang tubig na papaya sa mga agam-agam na kanyang dinadala.

Kung titignan naman natin sya base sa texto lamang pasok pa din naman ang image nya. Isang personang pagod sa mga hamon ng buhay at uhaw sa inner peace at isang balon na may hatid na tubig napapawi sa uhaw at pagod.

Sasadyain kong huwag masyadong lumusong sa pagbibigay ng mga kahulugan sa tula. Dahil ang layon ko'y wag limitahan ang sarili ninyong interpretasyon gusto ko lamang buksan ang mga posibilidad na maari nyong tignan sa pagbasa ng tula.

Salamat sa pagpapabasa ng iyong tula breaker..

points for improvement:

pwede pang dagdagan ng mga metaphor para mas maging maganda yun scene pero wag lamang sobrahan kasi baka lumayo sa tema.

 
Re: Literati Presents. . . Interpretasyon at Pagbasa [update as of 7/5/12]

Idol MF pwede ba mag interpret ng song lyrics?
May ginawa akong interpretation noon e..
Pero personal lang kasi un tska magulo interpretation ko hehe.. gusto ko rin share dito sana.. Anyway eto:



"Ode to the Family"
Cranberries

Understand the things I say, don't turn away from me,
'Cause I've spent half my life out there, you wouldn't disagree.
Do you see me? Do you see? Do you like me?
Do you like me standing there? Do you notice?
Do you know? Do you see me? Do you see me?
Does anyone care?

Unhappiness where's when I was young,
And we didn't give a damn,
'Cause we were raised,
To see life as fun and take it if we can.

My mother, my mother,
She hold me, she hold me, when I was out there.
My father, my father,
He liked me, oh, he liked me. Does anyone care?

Understand what I've become, it wasn't my design.
And people ev'rywhere think, something better than I am.
But I miss you, I miss, 'cause I liked it,
'Cause I liked it, when I was out there. Do you know this?
Do you know you did not find me. You did not find.
Does anyone care?

Unhappiness where's when I was young,
And we didn't give a damn,
'Cause we were raised,
To see life as fun and take it if we can.
My mother, my mother,
She hold me, she hold me, when I was out there.
My father, my father,
He liked me, oh, he liked me.




Hubaran Portion :naughty:


Gusto ko muna ijudge sana siya based on the song. Para sakin malungkot yung message. If you're familiar with the song, the tempo sets you in a sad mood. But what makes it interesting for me is that, despite the melancholic tempo, the title is about an "ode to the family" or tribute para sa family niya. The song lyrics is about Dolores by the way, yung girl na lead singer. That was one of the reasons kaya nacurious ako sa song lyrics to the point na gusto ko siya iinterpret.


Understand the things I say, don't turn away from me,
'Cause I've spent half my life out there, you wouldn't disagree.
Do you see me? Do you see? Do you like me?
Do you like me standing there? Do you notice?
Do you know? Do you see me? Do you see me?
Does anyone care?



May pinapatungkulan siya dito sa first stanza, based on the first line. Pero saan ba yung out there? Saan siya nanggaling? Parang she is calling for attention na makinig sa story niya. We don't know yet kung para kanino to, pero based on what she is saying, may gusto siyang sabihin pero in the end of the stanza parang sinasabi niya, wala namang nakakaintindi ng situation niya, something like that hehe.



Unhappiness where's when I was young,
And we didn't give a damn,
'Cause we were raised,
To see life as fun and take it if we can.


I think she is talking to her old self based on these lines: "Unhappiness where's when I was young and we didn't give a damn" supported by the next two lines. However, "fun" before wasn't what fun meant to her by now siguro. Sa first stanza, we can see na may pinagdadaanan siya. We can assume here na at some point, naging rebelde siya nung bata. Normally kapag pnprovoke ka, anong gagawin ng bata? Iiyak, right? O kaya magrerebelde.. Maybe getting away from that situation back then was what fun meant to her noon. But as we grow up, iba na ang "fun" na pinagdadaanan ng mature person kumpara sa isang bata. Kung noon, she might take the consequences of what fun meant to her, siguro ngayon na matanda na siya; despite all the pain na pinagdadaanan niya, optimistic parin siya.



My mother, my mother,
She hold me, she hold me, when I was out there.
My father, my father,
He liked me, oh, he liked me. Does anyone care?



These lines quite reveal what she has been through. Family problem in my own opinion. Unahin ko yung "My father he liked me, does anyone care". Para sakin, parang there's something going on between her and her father. Like daw siya ng father niya, pero walang may pakialam. Like in what way? At bakit nagbubulagbulagan mga tao? Maybe she is sexually abused? And presumably the only person who has been there to support or hold her was her mother.



Understand what I've become, it wasn't my design.
And people ev'rywhere think, something better than I am.



Understand what I've become, it wasn't my design. We can't deny that sometimes, kung ano yung past experiences natin; nakakaapekto sa decisions natin. Maybe she was saying na kung naging ganito man siya ngayon somewhat a rebel, partly eh hindi naman niya kasalanan yun since it was only brought about by her environment..

"And people everywhere think something better than I am".. Knowing Dolores who is already famous for her singing career, maybe a lot of people expects a lot from her.. from her greatness.. Siguro dahil sa pain na nararamdaman niya, hindi niya nakikita yun.. But people around her believes in her kaya instead of being a total rebel, in reality she became the best person out of all that pain.


But I miss you, I miss, 'cause I liked it,
'Cause I liked it, when I was out there. Do you know this?
Do you know you did not find me. You did not find.
Does anyone care?



I'd like to think na iba na yung meaning ng "out there" noon sa out there na sinasabi niya ngayon. Maybe noon she wanted to go out of her situation, pero ngayon, she wanted to find herself, take risk and be a better person.


It's a sad but happy song.. After I interpreted it, narealize ko melancholic yung song pero nostalgic siya at the same time. In the end I personally gave it a happy ending because that is what the title says, "ode to her family" na despite her family problem, still hindi parin niya kinalimutan yung lessons na natutunan niya sa past niya. :)


I don't know if it's true hehe. Pero yun lang naman ay personal opinion ko based on the song lyrics hehe.
 
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