Q: How to be an IT professional(Programmer) if graduated unrelated Course?

[jrbgarcia93]

Hi Everyone,

I am helping some friends who wants to shift career who graduated non IT-related course like HRM/Business Management, and they want to ask for advise if what are the steps needed for them to be eligible to apply for a Programming related jobs. Do they need to take another degree on IT or CS etc, or they can enroll directly on some programming training/bootcamp like https://orangeandbronze.com.

Saka sa mga job postings kasi kahit mga programmer trainee lang, parang nirerequire nila na dapat grad ng IT related course e.

Thanks po in advance,

 

[jskhulitz]

Nabanggit mo na bakit kahit sa programmer trainee ay nire-require nila na graduate din ng IT-related course. On an employer's standpoint, ang goal mo sa pagpili ng applicants mo ay ma-acquire mo sila, ma-adapt nila agad ang operations nyo, makapag-adjust agad sa mga kailangan aralin, at maging productive agad in the shortest time possible. Based on several studies, a new employee usually becomes really productive 6-12months in to his tenure. Now, balik tayo dun sa nabanggit mo, Bakit kaya nire-require nila na kahit na yung lowest IT-related position nila ay dapat graduate din ng IT-related course. Business-wise, siyempre gusto nila na ang iha-hire nila ay magkaroon ng immediate impact, kahit sobrang baba pa ng position niyan, sa operations nila. Given na sobrang galing ng candidate mo sa kanyang current field, he still needs time to adapt, learn, implement new skills habang nasa bagong company. Would it be profitable for the company to hire new people coming from entirely different field / course? Yes and no. No, dahil may possibility na mas matagal sya makapag-adapt as commpared dun sa nag-spend na ng 2/4 years sa course nya. And YES, may possibility na maging magaling agad sya even in a relatively short time, but what are the possibilities? Rockstar performers, even as new employees, are "figuratively" one-in-a-million. Ang tanong, yung candidate mo ba ay one-in-a-million? Most probably not. Paano mo naman mapapatunayan ang skills mo kung galing ka sa ibang industry.

Now, for the tips. Usually, ang companies ay tumitingin sa school, sa course, at sa grades KUNG ikaw ay nag-aapply for an entry-level position, LALO kung fresh graduate ka. Kung hindi, maghahanap yan ng relative skills and accomplishments depende sa kung gaano katagal ka na graduate. Kung matagal ka na graduate ng non-IT course, wala ka pinakitang skills na non-IT related, at wala ka din napasukan na short courses na IT-related, ano ang probability na i-hire ka for an IT post. None. So, I'd say, take short courses. Crash courses na in-depth agad ang lessons. Madami ako kilala na non-IT ang course, pero nasa industry natin. Sila yung mga nakapasok sa isang company, for a non-IT position, evolved within the company, then unti-unti nag-adapt at nag-aral para makatuloy sa IT responsibilities. Paglipat nya, may IT experience na sya.

 

[jrbgarcia93]

Nabanggit mo na bakit kahit sa programmer trainee ay nire-require nila na graduate din ng IT-related course. On an employer's standpoint, ang goal mo sa pagpili ng applicants mo ay ma-acquire mo sila, ma-adapt nila agad ang operations nyo, makapag-adjust agad sa mga kailangan aralin, at maging productive agad in the shortest time possible. Based on several studies, a new employee usually becomes really productive 6-12months in to his tenure. Now, balik tayo dun sa nabanggit mo, Bakit kaya nire-require nila na kahit na yung lowest IT-related position nila ay dapat graduate din ng IT-related course. Business-wise, siyempre gusto nila na ang iha-hire nila ay magkaroon ng immediate impact, kahit sobrang baba pa ng position niyan, sa operations nila. Given na sobrang galing ng candidate mo sa kanyang current field, he still needs time to adapt, learn, implement new skills habang nasa bagong company. Would it be profitable for the company to hire new people coming from entirely different field / course? Yes and no. No, dahil may possibility na mas matagal sya makapag-adapt as commpared dun sa nag-spend na ng 2/4 years sa course nya. And YES, may possibility na maging magaling agad sya even in a relatively short time, but what are the possibilities? Rockstar performers, even as new employees, are "figuratively" one-in-a-million. Ang tanong, yung candidate mo ba ay one-in-a-million? Most probably not. Paano mo naman mapapatunayan ang skills mo kung galing ka sa ibang industry.

Now, for the tips. Usually, ang companies ay tumitingin sa school, sa course, at sa grades KUNG ikaw ay nag-aapply for an entry-level position, LALO kung fresh graduate ka. Kung hindi, maghahanap yan ng relative skills and accomplishments depende sa kung gaano katagal ka na graduate. Kung matagal ka na graduate ng non-IT course, wala ka pinakitang skills na non-IT related, at wala ka din napasukan na short courses na IT-related, ano ang probability na i-hire ka for an IT post. None. So, I'd say, take short courses. Crash courses na in-depth agad ang lessons. Madami ako kilala na non-IT ang course, pero nasa industry natin. Sila yung mga nakapasok sa isang company, for a non-IT position, evolved within the company, then unti-unti nag-adapt at nag-aral para makatuloy sa IT responsibilities. Paglipat nya, may IT experience na sya.

Thanks anyway, pero parang nagfocus ka lang boss sa hindi naman main idea nung tanong, ang need ko po suggestions kung anong steps ang gagawin ng isang hindi graduate ng IT course para soon maging qualified siya sa pag aapply ng programming jobs. I mean, if merun ba sa inyo dito ang aware kung may company ba na nag hihire ng IT position kahit hindi grad basta nag undergo ng intensive training, something like that. At kung mag aaral namn anong mga courses po ang need nila kunin?

 

[devilish_angel]

Bsta may basic knowledge sa windows ok na. May mga companies mostly bpo nagha hire ng tsr na minsan kahit nursing grad pa. Kase may training naman. So para sa akin. Na isang criminology student na nagwowork as a tech i can say na pwde naman kahit basic windows knowledge lng. Again may training ang bawat kumpanya. No need for addtl courses kung bpo ang trabaho.

 

[jrbgarcia93]

Bsta may basic knowledge sa windows ok na. May mga companies mostly bpo nagha hire ng tsr na minsan kahit nursing grad pa. Kase may training naman. So para sa akin. Na isang criminology student na nagwowork as a tech i can say na pwde naman kahit basic windows knowledge lng. Again may training ang bawat kumpanya. No need for addtl courses kung bpo ang trabaho.

Thanks po, pero gusto kasi ng friend ko magprogrammer sana..haha panu po ba pag gradutae na ng 4 years course, lets say, HRM, then gusto mag IT, mga ilang taon pa kaya sya mag aaral? di po ba mga major subjects nalang naman siguro itatake nia?

 

[ign0ranc3]

Hi Everyone,

I am helping some friends who want to shift career who graduated non-IT-related course like HRM/Business Management, and they want to ask for advice if what are the steps needed for them to be eligible to apply for a Programming related jobs. Do they need to take another degree on IT or CS etc, or they can enroll directly on some programming training/bootcamp like https://orangeandbronze.com.

Saka sa mga job postings kasi kahit mga programmer trainee lang, parang nirerequire nila na dapat grad ng IT related course e.

Thanks po in advance,

Last advised was a long shot, this can take 2 years minimum. What I suggest, if your friend has a place to stay and patience for not having income for a year, enroll your friend for online courses, and get your porfolio started.

Include your skills that are Industry related, for example, Web Development?
- HTML
- CSS
- JS
- PHP
- git
- yarn
- PSD TO HTML

Then post your works. Let them know, you know these technologies and these are my works. This way, for a year of training, you will get the best our of your friend, and get a job for junior level position.

Experience is a plus, however, your portfolio will be your experience.

I hope that will help in someway.

 

[jrbgarcia93]

Last advised was a long shot, this can take 2 years minimum. What I suggest, if your friend has a place to stay and patience for not having income for a year, enroll your friend for online courses, and get your porfolio started.

Include your skills that are Industry related, for example, Web Development?
- HTML
- CSS
- JS
- PHP
- git
- yarn
- PSD TO HTML

Then post your works. Let them know, you know these technologies and these are my works. This way, for a year of training, you will get the best our of your friend, and get a job for junior level position.

Experience is a plus, however, your portfolio will be your experience.

I hope that will help in someway.

thank you so much po.

 

[jrbgarcia93]

I've also read the same concern from a different forum site. And someone said that there are indeed companies that hire non-IT graduates as IT staff but with employment bond. The name of the company was not mentioned though.

I don't think it's really necessary to enroll into CS or IT related course. I guess training will do as long as they are able to understand and learn stuff.

Okay, thanks po.