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Intel CPU Generations Improvements

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For those considering to upgrade their rig coming from intel's older generation CPU's. May napansin lang akong pattern sa mga releases nila ng CPU since their Sandybridge architecture. They're making incremental performance gain ranging from 5% to +10% (but not reaching 15%) IPC (instructions per cycle) per generation comparing their top tier CPU. Of course the numbers below would be based on each processor's equivalent on the succeeding generation. Please note that these are just based on my speculations (rough estimate) and from what I've read from various sites regarding each generation of release and may not be accurate.


ArchitecturePercentageComments
Sandybridge100with respect to Sandybridge
Ivybridge11010%
Haswell12110%
Devil's canyon127.055% -> devil's canyon is just
an improvement of Haswell
faster but lower temp & tdp
Broadwell
(process)
127.055% or less against Haswell.
Most improvements are on
power and temps. laptops
Skylake133.110% against Haswell
Kabylake139.7555% or less against Skylake


What does these numbers mean? Absolutely nothing :rofl:
What I want to point out is, if you have an Ivybridge i5 or better, you can still play today's games and not worry much about your CPU being old. Upgrade your GPU and SSD for better gaming performance instead. Of course you'll miss out on faster RAM, faster SATA, higher PCIE, USB 3.1, but do your really need those to play games? :noidea:
Sandybridge is just too old. You can decide to upgrade if you have the budget. But if you look at the numbers above, comparing an i7 2700k vs the latest 6700k with only 33.1% improvement on IPC, maybe it can still deliver :noidea: Of course wala pa dyan yung improvements ng RAM and other components. But from what I've seen on youtube, between 5-10 fps lang ang difference on most games with the same GPU :slap:



I just made this post after reading AMD's RYZEN announcement finally making leaps on their CPU design. More than 40% improvement per IPC from their previous generation is incredible compared against intel's sh!tty incremental updates. Ganun talaga pag walang competition, development stagnates :sigh:


Let's hope next year, mahihirapan na tayo pumili kung intel vs AMD sa pagpili ng CPU natin.

Please feel free to comment and point out my mistakes :thumbsup:
 
maganda to para sa mga nagbabalak magupgrade ng PC, at magisip kung sulit ba talaga na magpalit ng processor every year (kasi halos every year ata may lumalabas na bagong processor ang intel). kung ganun lang ang performance gain, tapos ang mahal pa ng bagong processor compared dun sa medyo luma na pero pumapalag pa.


Pero sa kabilang banda, ok din na ganun ginawa ng intel. imagine, kung bubuo ako ng pc at wala akong masyadong budget, pede ko pagpilian ung mga second hand unit na medyo luma na, pero in term of performance, kaya pang makipagsabayan sa mga newer models na di hamak na 3-4x ang price.

Regarding naman sa AMD, mas okay kung maconquer din nila ang laptop market. Wala ka masyado mapagpilian sa laptops na may AMD processor. Magcompare ka sa intel based laptops. lamang na lamang ung intel based. Tapos ang dami pa. Papatak din dito ung incremental update ng procesors para sa laptop. Mas mapapatagal pa ang paggamit mo sa laptop kasi di rin naman ganun kalaki ang performance difference ng older units sa bago. Haha.

Malalaman na lang natin kung mahihirapan tayo sa pagpili between AMD at Intel kapag lumabas na ung actual units at lumabas na ung mga benchmark tests nila.

May pagtatalunan na naman ang mga Team Asul at Team Pula. :lol:
 
ryzen user here SOON balak ko sana un kabylake kaso wag na XD
 
ttyagain ko nlang muna haswell ko smooth pa nman gmitin..
 
This video shows my point

 
yep the only problem is new functionality ng mobo at un hinahanap ko kahit ok padin ang i5 3570 ko ;)
 
sir gsto ko sna mag upgrade ng i3 haswell ko to i5 e. hnd ko na b need mag upgrade psu if ever? kasi 500w na cougar lang gamit ko e. like ko din sna mag 1050 ti ano po ba masuggest nyo kya p ba kahit mag upgrade din ako cooling system sa 500w na psu?
 
sir gsto ko sna mag upgrade ng i3 haswell ko to i5 e. hnd ko na b need mag upgrade psu if ever? kasi 500w na cougar lang gamit ko e. like ko din sna mag 1050 ti ano po ba masuggest nyo kya p ba kahit mag upgrade din ako cooling system sa 500w na psu?

kung wala ka overclock nothing will be wrong video card na pinili mo eh power efficient din so its fine
 
Maliit na lang talaga improvements as the die shrinks even smaller.
Sana lang babawi si AMD this time, para bumaba man lang pricing from Intel, hehe.
 
nagpost na si pchub sa fb ng i3 7350k nila, coming soon...
i don't get the target demographic of that CPU :noidea:
yung gagastusin mo for an i3 would be almost equal to their entry level i5 which has real 4 cores
tapos, you'll need a Z170/Z270 mobo to actually overclock that cpu which costs more than 7k also (pero meron ng z170 na +6k recently)...
unless ulitin nila yung ginawa nila sa G3258 na pwede mo pa rin OC kahit yung H81, B85 at H97 chipsets nila :noidea: that CPU doesn't make sense :noidea:
 
para yan sa mga gusto mag waldas ng pera hehehehe
 
forgot to mention that you'll still need a separate cpu cooler since unlocked cpu's doesn't come with one... :slap:
kung ganun din lang, kuha na lang ako nung gigabyte na basic z170 mobo, tapos locked na i5 6400/6500. flash ng custom bios to allow OC of locked CPU's, and kick @ss :rock:
 
heto na benchmark ng unlocked i3 7350k against an i5 6600k


threads are not equal to cores :rock:

though it's quite impressive, the price point and requirements for overclocking doesn't :slap:
 
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this is my personal opinion, i don't mean to offend anyone here :)

intel = para sa mga mapera
amd = para sa mga wais/nagtitipid/walang aircon ang shop :lol:

maiba ako
sir themonyo, ilan beses na po kau nakapag try mag overclock?
sobrang interesado kasi ako sa topic na to
madami na din akong nabasa sa net kasu halos wala akong makita thread dito about overclocking.
recently ko lang din nalaman na pwede din pala i-overclock ang RAM, motherboard chipsets and graphics cards
gusto ko din mag try kasu risky :think: at mahal :lol:

sana po sir gawa ka din ng thread about oveclocking.
 
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this is my personal opinion, i don't mean to offend anyone here :)

intel = para sa mga mapera
amd = para sa mga wais/nagtitipid/walang aircon ang shop :lol:

maiba ako
sir themonyo, ilan beses na po kau nakapag try mag overclock?
sobrang interesado kasi ako sa topic na to
madami na din akong nabasa sa net kasu halos wala akong makita thread dito about overclocking.
recently ko lang din nalaman na pwede din pala i-overclock ang RAM, motherboard chipsets and graphics cards
gusto ko din mag try kasu risky :think: at mahal :lol:

sana po sir gawa ka din ng thread about oveclocking.

hindi na ako nag-overclock ng mga bagong generation... noong unang panahon pa at nakasunog na ako ng cpu (between 2001 - 2004) :lmao:
if I had a Z board and K processor, or kahit AMD series, I might make one... pero wala eh :noidea:
baka yung AMD thread merong overclocking guide :noidea:
you can also find lots of written guides sa tpc, tom's hardware, ltt forums, etc.
there's also youtube that can guide you step by step.

may video si jayz2cents na hindi naman daw major factor ang overclocking sa life span ng cpu... meron daw syang q6600 (core2 quad) na overclocked since day 1, buhay pa raw hanggang ngayon. maaring mas mauna pang bumigay yung cpu cooler mo bago raw ang processor :noidea:
 
X299 chipset platform to launch on June 2017 along with Skylake-X and followed by Kaby Lake-X

mukhang natakot ang intel sa sales ng AMD at inabante ang release ng enthusiast grade platform nila which was expected around august :lol:
they will introduce a new LGA 2066 socket replacing LGA2011 v3 for their enthusiast class platform

Intel-X299chipset-1.jpg


intel-skylakeXbenchlife-2.jpg


original source from Benchlife
english source: fudzilla

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ang di ko maintidihan ay yung Kaby Lake-X :noidea:
it's supposed to use the same LGA2066 socket pero limited lang to dual channel, 16 PCIE lanes and 4 cores :noidea: I don't get it :slap:
bakit ka pa mag-X299 platform kung ililimit mo lang ang RAM channel, CPU cores at PCIE lanes mo which is the main reason why people would opt for their enthusiast class products :noidea:
X299 mobos and their predecessors are expensive... bakit ka maglalagay ng low-end na CPU na tulad ng kaby lake-x dun? :noidea:
 
Intel Skylake X Core i9-7920X, Core i9-7900X, Core i9-7820X, Core i9-7800X Mega-Tasking CPUs Leaked – Kaby Lake X Core i7-7740K and Core i7-7640K To Be Entry Level LGA 2066 HEDT Chips

It looks like Intel is going all out with their upcoming HEDT line of processors that are part of the Skylake X and Kaby Lake X family. The latest leak from Videocardz (via Anandtech Forums) alleges that the chips will feature a brand new naming scheme and also details their specifications.

Intel Skylake X Flagship Core i9-7920X Specifications Supposedly Leaked, Family To Feature Core i9-7900X, Core i9-7820X and Core i9-7800X
The latest specifications aren’t confirmed by Intel as of yet but they are very juicy in terms of details. The first most interesting detail is that Intel is finally going to stop using the age-old Core i7 branding on their high-end processors and go straight for Core i9 branding. The new Skylake X processor family is targeted at very high end enthusiasts and multi-tasking geared desktop PCs that require top notch performance in various tasks.

read the rest of the article here: wccftech


edit: got this from Anandtech c/o user Sweepr
Exclusive: Skylake-X (Core i9) Lineup and Specifications

Core i9-7920X
12C/24T
16.5MB L3
44 PCIe lanes
Clocks TBD (August Launch)

Core i9-7900X
10C/20T
13.75MB L3
44 PCIe Lanes
3.3Ghz Base
4.3Ghz Turbo 2.0
4.5Ghz Turbo 3.0!

Core i9-7820X
8C/16T
11MB L3
28 PCIe Lanes
3.6Ghz Base
4.3Ghz Turbo 2.0
4.5Ghz Turbo 3.0

Core i9-7800X
6C/12T
8.25MB L3
28 PCIe Lanes
3.5Ghz Base
4.0Ghz Turbo 2.0

Core i7-7740K
4C/8T
8MB L3
16 PCIe Lanes
4.3Ghz Base
4.5Ghz Turbo 2.0

Core i7-7640K
4C/4T
6MB L3
16 PCIe Lanes
4.0Ghz Base
4.2Ghz Turbo 2.0

- L2 cache = 1MB (Skylake-X), 4x as much as Core i7-7700K
- Dual DDR4-2666 for Kaby Lake-X / Quad DDR4-2666 for Skylake-X
- 112W for Kaby Lake-X / up to 140W for Skylake-X
- Apparently all Core i9 parts support AVX-512 (TBC)
- Launch in June, except 7920X (August)

Will share the image you guys want as soon as I'm allowed to.
Edit: Here's one
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Edit 2: Up to 140W instead of up to 160W for Skylake-X


edit ko: actually, i barely read anything i've posted here :noidea: most information i've got was from news i've watched from youtube, then searched for their sources and posted it here for everyone's reference
 
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