Naniniwala b kau na pagnaupo si duterte... Magiging communist country tayo?

[Blue Lemon]

Palagay ko dadami ang magraralky at baka magkagulo pa

 

[anishgiri]

Tagal na natin naging communist friendly, tingnan nyu yung mga major companies including those once owned by our government na tinake over nang mga buwayang businessman noong pagkatapos nila ma eliminate si Marcos..... Yung mga batas at policy na ipinasa sa congress at senado ay mga pabor hindi lang sa mga intsek pero sa lahat nang mga oligarch sa pinas. (pls. note na di ako pro Marcos)

Suma-total, yung capitalist vs socialist issue natin dito ay isa lang yang smoke screen nang mga politiko para ma hati yung opinion nang mga tao. Kumbaga yung mga buwaya my mutual agreement na walang lag-lagan kahit na sila ay magkalaban.

You don't understand what is communism. Go read some books or google.

 

[geezushaberdash]

Baka dictatorship hindi communism. Outdated na ang communism. Iilang bansa na lang ang communist ngaun. At para maimplement ang communism, kelangang mabuwag lahat ng political parties sa bansa. Kelangan ng rebolusyon para mag-transition mula sa democracy/capitalism papuntang dictatorship/communism. Hindi un magagawa nang basta lang aamiendahan ang konstitusyon. Madugo un. At sa palagay ko hindi niya isusulong ang parliamentary system dahil mawawalan xa ng kapangyarihan. Walang kapangyarihan ang presidente sa parliamentary system unless dictatorship ang form of government niya gaya ng kay Marcos.

 

[zigma]

He(Duterte) Said it himself, That his type of system would be Federal, I'm tired to talk to google to tell the diff between federalism and communism(Which I think there is)

 

[geezushaberdash]

Walang koneksyon ang communism sa federalism. Economic system ang communism. System of government ang federalism. Sa communism, bawal ang private ownership. State ang may-ari ng lahat ng goods at means of production. Sa federation, sovereign o autonomous ang bawat administrative division (state/province/region) sa isang bansa. May sarili silang gobyerno. Capitalism ang opposite ng communism. Unitary system ang opposite ng federal system.

Examples ng capitalist countries: USA, UK, Australia, Canada, Switzerland, Singapore

Examples ng communist/socialist countries: Venezuela, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, North Korea

Examples ng unitary states: UK, France, Italy, Japan, China, karamihan ng mga bansa sa mundo

Mga halimbawa ng pederasyon: USA, Germany, India, Malaysia, Russia, Australia

Ang federalism ang first step sa pagkaka watak watak ng isang bansa. Mas madaling magsecede o humiwalay ang mga regions, states, provinces sa isang bansa kung autonomous o sovereign sila.

 

[rapidox]

You don't understand what is communism. Go read some books or google.

haha read my post carefully... What i am trying to say is that "the lack of right wing groups in our country makes me think that our system is communist friendly, ginagamit lang nila yung mga Mao Chi Ototo wannabes para mag create nang chaos".

Masyadong personal ha, yung post mo parang madalas ka sa mga meme site. lol

@topic

Wala sa form of government yan, mapa socialist or capitalist yung dalawa maganda lang yan sa textbook at sa umpisa ma exploit din yan ang system. China is using socialist type of government pero dahil narin sa tulong nang capitlistism ay umunlad yung country nila.

 

[kyutbgaako]

Ang presidente ay parang king kailangan ng kawal at tga sunod na loyal sa kanya..dapat makabuo sya ng maraming tao na paipapalit nya sa posesyon ng mga tiwaling opisyal.kung magawa nya yan ay mapapabuti ang bansa natin pero nasa 30 percent lang yan na magagawa nya kasi..maraming nauuto pag pera na ang nagsalita..kaya lugi yung mahihirap na walang kakayanang maipaglaban ang kanyang karapatan.patay agad kahit walang kasalanan upang matakpan lang ang katiwalian ng isang opisyal..

 

[geezushaberdash]

^ Parang "king" lang ang presidente sa isang dictatorship hindi sa isang democracy. Mas mataas ang konstitusyon kesa sa presidente sa isang democracy.

 

[kaito89]

ang alam ko federal parliamentary yung sinusulong nya o federalism

 

[xpmove10]

Pag si Duterte ang mauupong PRES. Hayaan ang LUZON at VISAYAS. Mindanao naman ang pagagandahin nya. yun ang lugar nya hahahaha ^_^.

Baka Aprobahan pa nya ang BANSANG MORO BASIC LAW na yan ^_^ Para lumakas armas ng mga MILF ABU SAYYAF at MNLF at dami pa rebel jan Terrorist. Tapos sasakupin ang visayas sa huli pati luzon na. LAGOT na katagalugan REGION sa luzon


Para sa akin lang yan mga KA SB. kaya Mag-isip isip din tau kung cno dapat ang nararapat Na Magiging PRes ng PH

 

[rapidox]

Baka ito yung sinasabi ni TS, ngayun ko lang din nakita to lag sa isang Right Wing FB page....

Note: Di ako anti DU30, share ko lang yung nakita ko.... At wala akong hatol sa DU30 - NPA link dahil wala akong alam sa history ni DU30, sana meron taga Davao dyan na mag explain kung bakit malapit si DU30 sa mga big name communist/extortionist na yan. Sana naitanung ito noon sa debate ano?

 

[bioz]

mga fans ni duterte
pag si duterto maging presidente magiging ganito ...
pag si duterto maging presidente magiging ganyan ...



be careful what you wish for

 

[puyasbuto]

admit nyo na lang leftist talaga ang mindset ni du30. di ko naman sinasabing masabi yon at malayo namang gawin nyang communist country ang pinas. since 2016 na at outdated na ang ideals ng communism pag yon ang pinairal natin gutom ang aabotin ng 100 million peenoise..

ang inaalala ko na lang ngayon ang yong stand ni digong sa spratly issue, kabaliktaran ng stand ng aquino administration. pag manalo kasi ito ba makipag deal na lang sya sa china. kong ano ang deal na yon abangan na lang natin.

 

[rapidox]

admit nyo na lang leftist talaga ang mindset ni du30. di ko naman sinasabing masabi yon at malayo namang gawin nyang communist country ang pinas. since 2016 na at outdated na ang ideals ng communism pag yon ang pinairal natin gutom ang aabotin ng 100 million peenoise..

ang inaalala ko na lang ngayon ang yong stand ni digong sa spratly issue, kabaliktaran ng stand ng aquino administration. pag manalo kasi ito ba makipag deal na lang sya sa china. kong ano ang deal na yon abangan na lang natin.

since 2016 na at outdated na ang ideals ng communism pag yon ang pinairal natin gutom ang aabotin ng 100 million peenoise.

Ironic, kasi yung mindset nang mga "Freedom Fighters natin" ganun parin mula noon mapag hanggang ngayun? Baka yung tinutukoy mo ay yung communism sa Russia? If you haven't been to China, then you must read some article about the censorship and freedom of speech like what they did with Ai WeiWei.... Why majority of Hong Kongers rallied for weeks about China electing a puppet Chief Executive.

outdated na ang ideals ng communism

NPA admits killing Agusan del Sur mayor and son. Slain mayor Dario Otaza is accused of establishing and building intelligence networks within NPA territories in Agusan del Sur for AFP counter-revolutionary operations

http://www.rappler.com/nation/110516-npa-admits-killing-agusan-del-sur-mayor-son


3 dead, scores hurt in NPA landmine attack

http://www.mb.com.ph/3-dead-scores-hurt-in-npa-landmine-attack/

113 persons killed, 262 hurt by NPA landmines

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/386795/113-persons-killed-262-hurt-by-npa-landmines-afp

Lumad from Agusan: NPA, not military, responsible for killings.

http://www.rappler.com/move-ph/107628-lumad-agusan-npa-responsible-killings

"peenoise"

I am proud to be a Filipino, although I'm not really active in nation building and i consider my self as a keyboard warrior BUTT i don't call other pinoy "peenoise" cause they did something boastful. Di mo maririnig yan sa mga youth na active sumasali sa Gawad Kalinga or any non-profit organization.... oh the irony.

 

[creyzi4j]

Wala ako problema sa pamumuno ni Duterte, ang problema ko e yang Federalism na kanyang pinupush, nakakatakot ang consequences dahil binibigyan ito ng kapangyarihan ang mga korakot na mga Gobyernador.

Also, if tingnan mo talaga ng maigi, Federalism is a more extreme form of BBL.

Main point of BBL vs Federalism na kinatatakotan kong mangyari:


“No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever be allowed. No religious test shall be required for the exercise of civil or political rights.”
This means separation of Religion and State; Federalism on the other hand if it doesn't go well has no restrictions for that.

Ibig sabihin nito, kung gagamitin natin ang mga punishment sa religion meron na tayong; (example lang to;
- Kapag nag-premarital sex yung babae - death sentence dapat yung babae (death sentence by public stoning; nangyayari ito sa mga bansa na hindi separate ang state at religion)
- Ang isang lalake na witness ay katumbas sa dalawang babaeng witness.

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On the long run Federalism can be considered as an extreme form of BBL if not handled properly

Magdasal na lang tayo na peace loving ang mga extremist jan sa Mindanao. Hindi pa kasi ako nakapunta jan, kasi sa news na bombings, kidnappings and public beheading.




Sa Federalism kasi;
Divided ang Pinas bilang iba ibang federal states = which is maganda talaga.
Ang gobyerno natin ay meron nang autonomy = which is maganda din if di corrupt ung leader dun
Meron tayong sariling share sa ating sariling ekonomiya at atin lang talaga yun = which is maganda din
Mabibigyan pansin na ng gobyerno ang mga problema nuon na di nya kayang lutasin without help from the NCR = which is maganda talaga

CONS naman:
Pinapahinutulutan natin ang mga extremist faction (gaya ng Jemaiah Islamiah, MILF [sabi ng MILF magiging political party daw sila after, pero yung iba kaya?] at BIFF) na merong mga ties sa Al Qaeda at (marahil) ISIS na kontrolin ang ARMM at iba pang state = which is nakakatakot talaga.

 

[rapidox]

Wala ako problema sa pamumuno ni Duterte, ang problema ko e yang Federalism na kanyang pinupush, nakakatakot ang consequences dahil binibigyan ito ng kapangyarihan ang mga korakot na mga Gobyernador.

Also, if tingnan mo talaga ng maigi, Federalism is a more extreme form of BBL.

Main point of BBL vs Federalism na kinatatakotan kong mangyari:


“No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever be allowed. No religious test shall be required for the exercise of civil or political rights.”
This means separation of Religion and State; Federalism on the other hand if it doesn't go well has no restrictions for that.

Ibig sabihin nito, kung gagamitin natin ang mga punishment sa religion meron na tayong; (example lang to;
- Kapag nag-premarital sex yung babae - death sentence dapat yung babae (death sentence by public stoning; nangyayari ito sa mga bansa na hindi separate ang state at religion)
- Ang isang lalake na witness ay katumbas sa dalawang babaeng witness.

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On the long run Federalism can be considered as an extreme form of BBL if not handled properly

Magdasal na lang tayo na peace loving ang mga extremist jan sa Mindanao. Hindi pa kasi ako nakapunta jan, kasi sa news na bombings, kidnappings and public beheading.




Sa Federalism kasi;
Divided ang Pinas bilang iba ibang federal states = which is maganda talaga.
Ang gobyerno natin ay meron nang autonomy = which is maganda din if di corrupt ung leader dun
Meron tayong sariling share sa ating sariling ekonomiya at atin lang talaga yun = which is maganda din
Mabibigyan pansin na ng gobyerno ang mga problema nuon na di nya kayang lutasin without help from the NCR = which is maganda talaga

CONS naman:
Pinapahinutulutan natin ang mga extremist faction (gaya ng Jemaiah Islamiah, MILF [sabi ng MILF magiging political party daw sila after, pero yung iba kaya?] at BIFF) na merong mga ties sa Al Qaeda at (marahil) ISIS na kontrolin ang ARMM at iba pang state = which is nakakatakot talaga.

nakakatakot ang consequences dahil binibigyan ito ng kapangyarihan ang mga korakot na mga Gobyernador.

eto lang yung di ako agree, dahil active yung Provincial government namin dito sa mga projects.

SOME 5,250 Negros residents may get business process outsourcing (BPO)-related jobs from a new cyber center being built in Bacolod City once it is completed in 2013.

The cyber center is also expected to generate some P14 billion in salaries over a 15-year period, Negros Occidental Board Member Salvador Escalante said.

A report on Bacolod-based Visayan Daily Star quoted Escalante, as saying at least five call center firms have already signified interest in renting space at the provincial government-built facility. Escalante, who chairs the provincial board's finance committee, added the income from the rent may reach P50 million on the first year.

This will then increase every three years, and allow the cyber center to "pay" for itself in 10 years.

Future income from the rentals will be used for various projects of the provincial government.

BACOLOD CITY, Negros Occidental, Philippines, March 19, 2015 – Megaworld, the country’s leading developer of integrated urban townships and the biggest office developer and landlord, is investing P35-billion in the next 10 years to build two townships in Negros Occidental.
The first township, to be called THE UPPER EAST, is located on a 34-hectare property that used to be the Bacolod-Murcia Milling Company (BMMC) on the eastern side of Bacolod City. It is bounded by Burgos Avenue on the north, Lopez Jaena Street on the west and Circumferential Road on the east and is just across the New Government Center. This prime location, which the locales simply refer to as “East,” is now known to be Bacolod’s booming commercial and business process outsourcing (BPO) district.
Inspired by New York City’s affluent Upper East Side district, THE UPPER EAST will be Bacolod’s own version of an upscale lifestyle district where residential condominiums, malls and commercial centers, BPO office towers, tourism and leisure facilities as well as recreational parks and open spaces are integrated to create an exciting LIVE-WORK-PLAY township, which Megaworld pioneered in the Philippines.
“Finally, the people of Bacolod and Negros will be able to experience what we have offered in Eastwood City, Newport City and McKinley Hill. We are very excited to bring our pioneering LIVE-WORK-PLAY concept to the City of Smiles. We will build THE UPPER EAST with a vision of making it as Bacolod’s new central business district or CBD,” says Jericho P. Go, senior vice president, Megaworld.
On the northern part of Bacolod, where the famous Sugar Road was built, the second township will soon rise and will be called NORTHHILL. It is located on a 50-hectare property along the new Circumferential Road on the boundary of Talisay City and Bacolod City that has direct access to the new Bacolod-Silay Airport.
A joint development of Megaworld and its wholly owned subsidiary Suntrust Properties, Inc. in partnership with the Lacson Family, NORTHHILL will rise in an area that has a direct link to THE UPPER EAST via the Circumferential Road. It is envisioned to be a refreshing lifestyle district that will house upscale residential villages, mixed-use office and retail developments, leisure and recreational amenities as well as institutional facilities.
“Just as what we have done with our other developments, we will transform the sugarcane fields into a bustling new district. Within five to ten years, we envision this area to be the most sought-after business and lifestyle address for Negrenses,” adds Go.
Once completed, the two integrated urban townships will generate around 250,000 direct and indirect jobs in BPO, construction, transportation, commercial and retail businesses.
“We are still finalizing the master plans of the two townships. But one thing for sure, we will be able to provide thousands of jobs to the people of Negros once these two developments are completed,” says Go.
THE UPPER EAST and NORTHHILL are just two of the five township developments that Megaworld is launching this year. Just recently, the company announced that it is aggressively expanding its township portfolio across the country from 15 to 20 with a total township land area of 3,100 hectares by the end of the year.
Last year, the company has introduced five townships in its portfolio covering almost 1,000 hectares of land. These include Woodside City in Pasig City (12.3 hectares); Southwoods City in the boundaries of Cavite and Laguna (561 hectares); Davao Park District in Lanang, Davao City (11 hectares); Alabang West in Las Piñas City (62 hectares) and Suntrust Ecotown in Tanza, Cavite (350 hectares).
Other townships include Eastwood City in Quezon City, (18.5 hectares), which holds the distinction of being the country’s first cyberpark; Newport City in Pasay City (25 hectares), which is the home of Resorts World Manila; McKinley Hill (50 hectares), McKinley West (34.5 hectares), Uptown Bonifacio (15.4 hectares) and Forbes Town Center (5 hectares), all in Fort Bonifacio; The Mactan Newtown in Cebu (28.8 hectares); Iloilo Business Park in Mandurriao, Iloilo City (72 hectares); Boracay Newcoast in Boracay Island (150 hectares) and Twin Lakes in Tagaytay (1,300 hectares) of Global-Estate Resorts, Inc. (GERI), a subsidiary of Megaworld

 

[johnny_luck]

Hello po.. On my own opinion, di naman po ganun cguro ung mangyayari kasi as you can see in Davao (Model City) niya, hindi mo masasabing communist ang mga government eh. But rest assured if sya magiging pangulo, I think meron talaga syang control at limitations na ibibigay nya sa mga rebelding grupo kasi nga pinpakinggan nya ang bawat panig. Kung magiging plano man nya na maging communist, kukulangin po ang 3 year to implement kasi po it takes 1 year observation before you can manipulate the constitution, plus ung implementation time pa. Tama ung comment sa baba, federalism may pag-asa pa.

 

[dodge2012]

Boss if we talk about kung sino ang communist, mga malalaking lider yan sa Gobyerno natin, sila ang founder ng communist, gusto nilang guluhin ang mindanao para walang mag invest sa mindanao. Ang lider ng mga communist ay tinatawag na Kumander "DANTE" ito ang limang senador sa time ni Marcos. "DANTE" ay pinamumunuan ni "D" Dyukno, "A" Aquino 'yan si Ninoy Aquino, "N" Natividad, "T" Tolentino at "E" Espinoza. Ito sila ang founder ng "CPP" Communist Party of the Philippines. We back of Ninoy Aquino, di yan sya hero. That is the real macoy, C Ninoy ay ginawang hero upang may silbi ang kanyang buhay at mamaintain ang kanilang status quo. They preferred to make him a hero rather than to die with his sickness sa puso. Kaya ginawang instrumento para masisi kay FM. Kung talagang si FM ang pumatay dapat naprosecute na siya noong nanungkulan ang asawa nya. pero they cannot why? wala silang evidensya. Kaya alam 'yan ni Duterte, hanggang ngayon may pumapalit sa mga posisyon ng mga lider na yan. Kawawa lang mga member nila ginagamit lang nila ang mga tao, habang ang mga lider nila ay nasa labas ng bansa, masarap ang buhay. Kaya ang masasabi ko lang hindi communist si Duterte, tingnan mo ang Davao, kung communist pa o diktador si Duterte, wala ng investors sa Davao. Davao City improves to 5th in ranking of world’s safest cities. Gusto lang ni Duterte na ipapatupad ang batas, ang batas sa lahat mayaman man o mahirap. Dahil ngayon ang batas ay sa mahihirap lang, kung may pera ka at may malalaki kang koneksyon sa gobyerno, di ka makukulong. Dyan galit si Duterte. At pag ma impluwensya ka dika makukunan ng tax. Tingnan mo ang business man na si Gutierez ang pinakamalaking gastos during the campaign period of PNOY walang tax. Tama ba yan daang matuwid ba 'yun? Kung ka alyado ka ni PNOY dika binabatikos, pag dika ka alyado, binabatikos ka ng husto, hindi fair diba? Kaya sa ngayon nag susumikap na manalo ang Liberal Party, dahil pag hindi, makukulong sila dahil sa patong patong na kaso. Baluktot kasi ang matuwid na daan. Ang bilyon-bilyong pera sa Yolanda, missing na. Kaya hanggang ngayon dipa rin natatapos ang problema sa Yolanda. Kaya wag kang maniniwala sa mga bintang, dahil sinisiraan lang nila si Duterte. Kung wala kang illegal na business at hindi ka kurakot o Drug Lord o drug addict, hindi ka matatakot na manalo si Duterte, dahil ang hinahangad ni Duterte ay kapakanan ng bawat Filipino. Duterte is the last card para sa tunay na pagbabago. Wala ng makakagawa katulad ni Duterte. Kung may malasakit ka sa bawat Filipino, go for Duterte, kung wala eh sarili mo lang ang inaatupag mo, wala kang pakialam sa bawat Filipino. Sawa na kasi ako sa mga inosenteng pinapatay na walang kalaban laban. Katulad sa 1 yr old na bata minamartilyo pa ng martilyo gang. Kaawa-awa talaga. Time na para matigil na itong krimen na 'to. Dahil kasi sa droga may lakas sila na gumagawa ng krimin. I 'm not endorsing Duterte, nakikita ko lang sa kanya na maganda ang kanyang hangarin sa bawat mamayang Filipino at nararapat para sa tunay na pagbabago.

 

[creyzi4j]

Federalism!
http://davaotoday.com/main/politics...axation-a-reality-just-pay-them-says-duterte/

Wag natin hayaang ibigay pera natin sa Maynila
Ibigay nalang natin sa NPA at MILF

 

[lostseoul]

ayaw ng mga negosyante si du30..