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[abejarpogi]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

kobe game wining shots..6

we had all opinions nakikita ko lng yung bad side nya..hehe

btw..laki talaga pwede mgyari ds summer..my rumor that lebron will go to lakers..ewan ko lng mgkatoto..parang pinapalabas na hindi nila bibigyan ng xtension c kobe or jackson will coach knicks w/lebron..ngkakagulo pala lakers noh?my galit pala c jerry buss ky jackson..?any idea??

Hehe ganun ba bro? Mukhang masaya ang darating na Free Agency

naalala ko pa kasi ang survey sa mga NBA coaches if given a chance, who they will set-up for the last play for the win -- and kobe is #1.. makikita yata ang details ng information sa section na ito, dun yata sa MJ vs Kobe

i don't think pupunta sa lakers si james.. for one, fixed na (unless traded) ang mga players gaya ni odom, gasol at artest. si kobe na lang ang hindi naka pirma ng extension kasi may balak daw na pumunta sa clippers.

ang nabasa ko tungkol kay Lebron was he wants to have a team where the combination or group of wade, bosh and stoudemire are there.. and the only team na may capacity to acquire these stars are Knicks and Nets.. ang dalawang team na yan ang mapupuntahan ng apat na yan. basta, parang package na kasama yata si stoudemire kung saan makapunta si james

@ dyan2

correction: it was his seventh last-minute winning shot of the season..

 

[L Lawliet]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

Surprise surprise Kobe Fans! Kobe is the best clutch scorer in this season.

Ayan, may patunay na, clutch si Kobe this season but I still won't agree that he is the all-time clutch scorer. In terms of percentages, there are still a few more efficient scorers than him in tight situations (e.g. Melo).

 

[countkenshin]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

kobe game wining shots..6

we had all opinions nakikita ko lng yung bad side nya..hehe

btw..laki talaga pwede mgyari ds summer..my rumor that lebron will go to lakers..ewan ko lng mgkatoto..parang pinapalabas na hindi nila bibigyan ng xtension c kobe or jackson will coach knicks w/lebron..ngkakagulo pala lakers noh?my galit pala c jerry buss ky jackson..?any idea??

@dyan2x parang pag galing sayo gusto mo talaga magkagulo lakerz ah? hehe isa kang GANID sa LAKERZ joke lang
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-uhmm dun naman sa clutch player I would agree kobe is a good clutch player and the REST star player kase manalo o matalo ayoz lang expected na in times of trouble sila magdadala ng team di ba?

kayo ba pag time running out ipapa-bahala nyo ang bola o ang play sa kung sino mang player other than the STAR PLAYER??? pwede unless my gagawin play if thats the case'

and issue na kobe is being a buwaya' some part is true BUT eto lang pansinin nyo whenever naglalaro ang mga teams like CAVS, HEAT, OKC check nyo ilang touches nagagawa ng star player nila,
hmmm madami di ba? for scorer kase sila at kung di man scorer expected din na pwede sila maging distributor for they will draw DOUBLE/TRIPPLE teams.

DAMn ang galing ko maging ATTY. ehehe joke lang peace!

 

[abejarpogi]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

Surprise surprise Kobe Fans! Kobe is the best clutch scorer in this season.

Ayan, may patunay na, clutch si Kobe this season but I still won't agree that he is the all-time clutch scorer. In terms of percentages, there are still a few more efficient scorers than him in tight situations (e.g. Melo).

that's why i said that he will be the best clutch shooter this season and probably this decade. because, he is expected to make the last shot and defense against him is always tight compared to other players listed as clutch.

Note: Kobe is shooting with fractured finger and despite that, he made 7 notable clutch shots. Please consider it. Ito yata ang hindi nalagay ng commentator sa article.

And also, i am forgiving the lakers players kasi i found out that most of them have problem on their fingers. Only Papa Sasha is healthy on it. That's why ganito pala ang kanilang stats. I hope they can adjust until Playoffs or if they reach the finals.

 

[Herbz]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

naalala ko pa kasi ang survey sa mga NBA coaches if given a chance, who they will set-up for the last play for the win -- and kobe is #1.. makikita yata ang details ng information sa section na ito, dun yata sa MJ vs Kobe

i don't think pupunta sa lakers si james.. for one, fixed na (unless traded) ang mga players gaya ni odom, gasol at artest. si kobe na lang ang hindi naka pirma ng extension kasi may balak daw na pumunta sa clippers.

ang nabasa ko tungkol kay Lebron was he wants to have a team where the combination or group of wade, bosh and stoudemire are there.. and the only team na may capacity to acquire these stars are Knicks and Nets.. ang dalawang team na yan ang mapupuntahan ng apat na yan. basta, parang package na kasama yata si stoudemire kung saan makapunta si james

@ dyan2

correction: it was his seventh last-minute winning shot of the season..

Haha talagang bold mo pa ung seventh

Yung about sa paglipat ni Kobe, tingin ko di na lilipat yun. Kasi matagal nya request sa management na mabigyan sya ng capable na mga teammates. Tapos lilipat sya ngayong meron na? Tapos sa Clippers pa Kung lilipat sya dun, mas wala sya chance makakuha ng ring doon. Nga pala, fired na si Mike Dunleavy Sr. as GM nila haha

Kawawa naman si tatang.

Agree ako, malabong pumunta ng Lakers si King James.

Surprise surprise Kobe Fans! Kobe is the best clutch scorer in this season.

Ayan, may patunay na, clutch si Kobe this season but I still won't agree that he is the all-time clutch scorer. In terms of percentages, there are still a few more efficient scorers than him in tight situations (e.g. Melo).

Kahit gusto ko si Kobe, I agree dito
Hindi sya ang ALL-TIME best clutch player -- pero sa current NBA players, he is.

About kay Melo, I can say na best pure scorer si Melo sa buong league (kahit na hindi sya ang leading scorer ng NBA). Hehe wag sana magreact mga fans ng ibang all-star players
Lufet ni Melo sa offense mga tol. He causes matchup-nightmare for the opposing team. Give him a smaller &/or quicker player, he'll post you up. Give him a stronger &/or bigger defender, he'll take you off the dribble. He can also hit 3's and swabe ang mid-range game nya.

PERO, I strongly disagree about Melo being a better clutch performer than Kobe Mas tiwala pa ko kay Mr. Bigshot in late games than Melo.

@dyan2x parang pag galing sayo gusto mo talaga magkagulo lakerz ah? hehe isa kang GANID sa LAKERZ joke lang
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-uhmm dun naman sa clutch player I would agree kobe is a good clutch player and the REST star player kase manalo o matalo ayoz lang expected na in times of trouble sila magdadala ng team di ba?

kayo ba pag time running out ipapa-bahala nyo ang bola o ang play sa kung sino mang player other than the STAR PLAYER??? pwede unless my gagawin play if thats the case'

and issue na kobe is being a buwaya' some part is true BUT eto lang pansinin nyo whenever naglalaro ang mga teams like CAVS, HEAT, OKC check nyo ilang touches nagagawa ng star player nila,
hmmm madami di ba? for scorer kase sila at kung di man scorer expected din na pwede sila maging distributor for they will draw DOUBLE/TRIPPLE teams.

DAMn ang galing ko maging ATTY. ehehe joke lang peace!

Even si King James, Point Forward ang talagang matatawag mo sa kanya. Sya ang talagang run ng offense kaysa kay Mo Williams.
Even sa Miami Heat, ganun din kay Wade.

In late games, sa best player mo ipagkaka-tiwala ang deciding play. Unless gagamitin mo sya as decoy

OR baka gusto nyo ipahawak kay Brian Scalabrine ang bola, at sya magset ng play ng team nyo para sa game winning shot

that's why i said that he will be the best clutch shooter this season and probably this decade. because, he is expected to make the last shot and defense against him is always tight compared to other players listed as clutch.

Note: Kobe is shooting with fractured finger and despite that, he made 7 notable clutch shots. Please consider it. Ito yata ang hindi nalagay ng commentator sa article.

And also, i am forgiving the lakers players kasi i found out that most of them have problem on their fingers. Only Papa Sasha is healthy on it. That's why ganito pala ang kanilang stats. I hope they can adjust until Playoffs or if they reach the finals.

Keen observer ka bro
Baka nakalimutan lang ng mga tao na hindi 100% ang condition ng fingers ni Kobe. At take note, HINDI LANG INDEX FINGER ang may tama. Maganda siguro kung take into consideration.

About Papa Sasha, haha kahit healthy sya, TAE naman. WALA RIN LANG SILBI

 

[countkenshin]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

@herbz nice!

regarding kay melo agree din ako ng pure scorer talaga si Melo' maasahan mo sya to deliver every game'

 

[Herbz]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

@herbz nice!

regarding kay melo agree din ako ng pure scorer talaga si Melo' maasahan mo sya to deliver every game'

@ countkenshin

Thanks bro!

Anyway, palitan naman natin ang topic hehe. Nakakasawa na kasi si Kobe

Ano say nyo sa pagkatalo ng Boston kahapon sa Memphis? Ako, napaisip ako habang pinapanood ko. Mukhang hindi na sila ang malupit na team sa East. I think age is creeping up on them. Maganda ang lineup ng Grizz, pati Thunder. Young talaga ang core group nila, maganda to build around
Wrong timing ata ang pagsali ni Finley sa Celtics padecline na kasi sila KG eh, tumatanda na rin siyempre. Taas na ng mileage hahaha

 

[countkenshin]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

I don't think na ,maganda decision nila na ibigay si eddie house sa NY, tingnan mo nangyayare sa kanila ngayon.

 

[czachnoid™]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

Marami ang nagsasabi sa Eastern Conference ito yung Top 4 teams:

1. Cleveland Cavaliers
2. Orlando Magic
3. Boston Celtics
4. Atlanta Hawks

Sa tingin ko tama sila yan talaga ang Top 4 teams ng East...


@ herbz_8

I agree in what you have said about Boston:

Veteran Players have the experience to win. But the problem is there Physical Bodies...

Regarding Finley's addition sa Boston Celtics:

Ipagpapatuloy niya na lang ang Role niya dati sa San Antonio Spurs... Yun ang to shoot three's.

 

[abejarpogi]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

@ herdz

yah, thanks! kasi parang nakalimutan nga ng author ng article na kobe made those 7 with unhealthy fingers.

yah, medyo nakakasawa na rin pag usapan ang idol ng karamihan dito na si kobe eh kasi naman until now marami pa ring opposition sa kanya at hindi naman (on my part) na hahayaan un na hindi ma rebut.

oh my CELTICS

kung babasahin nyo ang mga posts ko (matagal na un) sa evaluation ko sa mga trades, the acquisition of wallace for me won't be that good. im not playing safe, just try to browse it earlier and you will read my evaluation on them. they keep on acquiring veteran players because they previously found out it can give them ring (their big 3).. and, the same with the spurs.

if you looked on my evaluation, the number order of upgrade for me were mavericks, magic, and lakers. as for jefferson and wallace, i don't think so.. they are redundant on that team. compared to mavericks, marion will be good defensively which is needed -- and because of butler and haywood (late upgrade), look on what they are right now. regarding magic, they really needed scorer - but carter is old on this but still effective considering the team is good offensively.

but, i was wrong in cavaliers. i predicted shaq will be mess on them but he is effective against howard.

all-in-all, don't take it bad mga celtics fans. for me, i don't think finley, robinson and wallace will make this team reaching the east finals and the same with spurs in west finals.

PS. for me, nuggets will find it hard if they fought with mavericks. the same with lakers if their fingers won't be heal.

 

[dyan2]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

sali nyo nmn ang charlotte bobcats sa top teams sa east..

lam nyo ba na natatakot ang cavaliers na maging 8 seed ang cats dahil matatalo sila nito pg ngkataon..sabi nga nila kayang2 ng cats any elite teams in both conference..mariming surprises mngyayari ds playoffs..

 

[L Lawliet]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

Kahit gusto ko si Kobe, I agree dito
Hindi sya ang ALL-TIME best clutch player -- pero sa current NBA players, he is.

About kay Melo, I can say na best pure scorer si Melo sa buong league (kahit na hindi sya ang leading scorer ng NBA). Hehe wag sana magreact mga fans ng ibang all-star players
Lufet ni Melo sa offense mga tol. He causes matchup-nightmare for the opposing team. Give him a smaller &/or quicker player, he'll post you up. Give him a stronger &/or bigger defender, he'll take you off the dribble. He can also hit 3's and swabe ang mid-range game nya.

PERO, I strongly disagree about Melo being a better clutch performer than Kobe Mas tiwala pa ko kay Mr. Bigshot in late games than Melo.

You may not agree, but the numbers don't lie. For the past decade, Kobe shoots about 29.2% on his clutch shots. Melo is at
46.4%. I'm not making this up.

I would also trust Billups in late games, but as a play finisher, I would get the ball to Melo.

Also on the "clutch" issue we're having, if I am the coach, I would rather have a play wherein I have a wide open shot, even if it is from my non-star player, than just giving the ball to your Ace player and stay out of the way. Seriously, even if one of your players missed a wide open shot, I wouldn't feel bad because that's the shot that I wanted. When you know your opponent is giving the ball to their star player in close games, it's easy to key-in in defense, because you know where the ball's going to. Remember Ariza's steal on the inbound pass of the Nuggets during the WCF last year? and also Turkoglu's block on Kobe during the Finals of last year? Those are just examples.

There are very special players, like Kobe and Wade (with the help from the refs, err his teammates) who could almost always know how to put up points in the basket even if they are guarded heavily, and there's nothing you could do about it.

One thing I would like to point out also on the Nuggets, is that they have two players that could score points in the clutch (Melo and Billups), maybe you could even throw in J.R. Smith, on a good day, so clutch shots are spread almost evenly among them, so those two doesn't have a lot of clutch shots compared to Kobe. In the Lakers, they only have Kobe who could do that. Same with Miami (Wade) and Cleveland (LBJ). Dallas has two (Terry and Nowitzki).

At the end of the day, they are all great players. We just have to enjoy what kind of a show they're going to provide us in each game. Clutch shots are what we are looking for as fans, and Kobe brings the most of them this season.

P.S. : It is a very sad season for Bulls fans. Pwede bang magfast forward na lang sa next season?

 

[abejarpogi]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

sali nyo nmn ang charlotte bobcats sa top teams sa east..

lam nyo ba na natatakot ang cavaliers na maging 8 seed ang cats dahil matatalo sila nito pg ngkataon..sabi nga nila kayang2 ng cats any elite teams in both conference..mariming surprises mngyayari ds playoffs..

siguro tol ang dapat natin i admire aside from them will be the thunder -- in the person of Durant.. Who will expect until now they are leading against Hornets/Spurs/Suns which are have veteran players. This team composed of young players - including Westbrook. If Durant continues to play like this, no wonder, he will surpass Carmelo on SF position in terms of scoring ability (west).

im still in favor of cavaliers to dominate the east conference until facing the magic.. that's the only team that can keep with their scoring spree - particularly james.. i can see Shaq to be injured somewhere in playoffs. so, howard will dominate the paint even if guarded by jamison/varejao/big z (shall return)

You may not agree, but the numbers don't lie. For the past decade, Kobe shoots about 29.2% on his clutch shots. Melo is at
46.4%. I'm not making this up.

I would also trust Billups in late games, but as a play finisher, I would get the ball to Melo.

Also on the "clutch" issue we're having, if I am the coach, I would rather have a play wherein I have a wide open shot, even if it is from my non-star player, than just giving the ball to your Ace player and stay out of the way. Seriously, even if one of your players missed a wide open shot, I wouldn't feel bad because that's the shot that I wanted. When you know your opponent is giving the ball to their star player in close games, it's easy to key-in in defense, because you know where the ball's going to. Remember Ariza's steal on the inbound pass of the Nuggets during the WCF last year? and also Turkoglu's block on Kobe during the Finals of last year? Those are just examples.

There are very special players, like Kobe and Wade (with the help from the refs, err his teammates) who could almost always know how to put up points in the basket even if they are guarded heavily, and there's nothing you could do about it.

One thing I would like to point out also on the Nuggets, is that they have two players that could score points in the clutch (Melo and Billups), maybe you could even throw in J.R. Smith, on a good day, so clutch shots are spread almost evenly among them, so those two doesn't have a lot of clutch shots compared to Kobe. In the Lakers, they only have Kobe who could do that. Same with Miami (Wade) and Cleveland (LBJ). Dallas has two (Terry and Nowitzki).

At the end of the day, they are all great players. We just have to enjoy what kind of a show they're going to provide us in each game. Clutch shots are what we are looking for as fans, and Kobe brings the most of them this season.

P.S. : It is a very sad season for Bulls fans. Pwede bang magfast forward na lang sa next season?

sayang ang bulls mo tol.. bakit kasi si d. rose walang sinasanto ginagaya si james na bigla mag drive sa paint para maka charge. now, pangalawang beses na nia binanggaan si dwight at puros injured siya dito.. tsk3x.. gahahin na lang nia sana si kobe, na as guard, depende sa situation ang pagkuha ng charge.

 

[countkenshin]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

You may not agree, but the numbers don't lie. For the past decade, Kobe shoots about 29.2% on his clutch shots. Melo is at
46.4%. I'm not making this up.

I would also trust Billups in late games, but as a play finisher, I would get the ball to Melo.

Also on the "clutch" issue we're having, if I am the coach, I would rather have a play wherein I have a wide open shot, even if it is from my non-star player, than just giving the ball to your Ace player and stay out of the way. Seriously, even if one of your players missed a wide open shot, I wouldn't feel bad because that's the shot that I wanted. When you know your opponent is giving the ball to their star player in close games, it's easy to key-in in defense, because you know where the ball's going to. Remember Ariza's steal on the inbound pass of the Nuggets during the WCF last year? and also Turkoglu's block on Kobe during the Finals of last year? Those are just examples.

There are very special players, like Kobe and Wade (with the help from the refs, err his teammates) who could almost always know how to put up points in the basket even if they are guarded heavily, and there's nothing you could do about it.

One thing I would like to point out also on the Nuggets, is that they have two players that could score points in the clutch (Melo and Billups), maybe you could even throw in J.R. Smith, on a good day, so clutch shots are spread almost evenly among them, so those two doesn't have a lot of clutch shots compared to Kobe. In the Lakers, they only have Kobe who could do that. Same with Miami (Wade) and Cleveland (LBJ). Dallas has two (Terry and Nowitzki).

At the end of the day, they are all great players. We just have to enjoy what kind of a show they're going to provide us in each game. Clutch shots are what we are looking for as fans, and Kobe brings the most of them this season.

P.S. : It is a very sad season for Bulls fans. Pwede bang magfast forward na lang sa next season?

Bro I would say kaya mataas % clutch shot ni melo kase minsan lang sya tumira ng clutch shot for kay Bigshot lage ang last humahawak ng bola this lately lang nagiging kay melo na ang bola kapag last second right?

opinion ko lang

 

[abejarpogi]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

@ countkenshin

eh kasi naman baka either hindi malapit ang score or hindi na umaabot pa ng ganito ang denver.. hehe, at hindi na rin nagagamit si mr big shot!

naku, nakakalimutan din pala sa usapin ng mga CLUTCH-CLUTCH na ito (hindi ito about sa vehicles) kung SINO ANG PINAKAMARAMING POINTS IN 4TH QTR in their respective super career!

haha, i won't deny (kasi totoo) ang lower percentage ni kobe sa clutch but, because him, humahabol ang team nia in score during 4th qtr.

kung napapansin natin, kobe is one of the active players listed having high points in 4th qtr (or kasali pa yata ang overtime). nakalimutan ko ang pagkakasunod nila but, Manu Ginobili and Kobe are leading this aspect.

PS. Parang ayaw ko na pag-usapan si Kobe kaso nabuhay nanaman.. haha, pasensya na

 

[L Lawliet]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

Bro I would say kaya mataas % clutch shot ni melo kase minsan lang sya tumira ng clutch shot for kay Bigshot lage ang last humahawak ng bola this lately lang nagiging kay melo na ang bola kapag last second right?

opinion ko lang

Actually, it's the opposite. Let's compare the clutch stats of those two players when they first got together (last season), up to now:

2008-2009 NBA Season Clutch Stats: (Production per 48 Minutes of Clutch Time)

Carmelo Anthony - FGA: 26.9 FG% .565
Chauncey Billups - FGA: 22.6 FG% .404

2009-2010 NBA Season Clutch Stats: (Production per 48 Minutes of Clutch Time)

Carmelo Anthony - FGA: 27.9 FG% .385
Chauncey Billups - FGA: 26.0 FG% .464

The numbers said it all. Melo still shoots the majority of clutch shots in Denver, though this season, di masyadong magkalayo attempts nila ni Billups and mas accurate si Billups this season. This shows that clutch attempts are still split almost evenly between the two.

Hope this clear things up

 

[dyan2]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

mas magaling talagang clutch player si melo kysa ky billups becoz melo is an excellent perimeter shooter and differnce dn yan sa kanilang position..melo also has great first step mahirap bantayan even artest nahihirapan sa kanya unpredictable kasi he can dive the ball or pull it up for a j..

also i disagree na ma lalampasan ni durant si melo in sf position n east..alam nmn natin na malakas ang thunder ngayun dahil din ky westbrook..great combo guard triple double threat nasasapawan lng ni durantula..their team is not also a threat in playoffs..mahina depth nila..walng magaling na secong unit..

 

[countkenshin]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

Actually, it's the opposite. Let's compare the clutch stats of those two players when they first got together (last season), up to now:

2008-2009 NBA Season Clutch Stats: (Production per 48 Minutes of Clutch Time)

Carmelo Anthony - FGA: 26.9 FG% .565
Chauncey Billups - FGA: 22.6 FG% .404

2009-2010 NBA Season Clutch Stats: (Production per 48 Minutes of Clutch Time)

Carmelo Anthony - FGA: 27.9 FG% .385
Chauncey Billups - FGA: 26.0 FG% .464

The numbers said it all. Melo still shoots the majority of clutch shots in Denver, though this season, di masyadong magkalayo attempts nila ni Billups and mas accurate si Billups this season. This shows that clutch attempts are still split almost evenly between the two.

Hope this clear things up

may I know your source bro?



edit: waaa ayun pla di ko nakita, eh bat dati napupuna ko lage si Big shot last shot nila eh' hmmm?

 

[abejarpogi]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

mas magaling talagang clutch player si melo kysa ky billups becoz melo is an excellent perimeter shooter and differnce dn yan sa kanilang position..melo also has great first step mahirap bantayan even artest nahihirapan sa kanya unpredictable kasi he can dive the ball or pull it up for a j..

also i disagree na ma lalampasan ni durant si melo in sf position n east..alam nmn natin na malakas ang thunder ngayun dahil din ky westbrook..great combo guard triple double threat nasasapawan lng ni durantula..their team is not also a threat in playoffs..mahina depth nila..walng magaling na secong unit..

actually nalagpasan naman nia in terms of average points per game now.. hehe.. pero tol, kung titingnan mo ha... sino ang may mas malakas na team between durant and melo - i mean kung baliktarin natin ang situation at nasa denver si durant.. di ba?

hats off kay carmelo kaso kung ikumpara mo ang team nia kay durant, malayo sa experience - pati age pala. kaya nasabi ko na if durant continues to play like this, he might be mentioned alongside with elite players and dominate the SF (except James)

 

[dyan2]

Re: NBA 2009- 2010 Season

@abejar

hindi nmn yn depende sa teamates kng scoring ang pg uusapan..f ur a great scorer kahit mahina teamates mo mkaka score ka talaga ng malaki..

durant also admit that hes not a great scorer like james,wade,melo nd kobe..
alam kasi nya na wala pa xang napapatunayan ang record pa lng nya is 30pts above streak dba?alam dn natin na hes a first time crowned all star..bata pa nmn din xa gagaling pa xa kng wla lng serious injury aabot sa kanya..

tsaka tol mkikita din natin yan nxt season kng kasila nga xa sa elite players..heheh..but now its to early baka mgaya lng xa ky danny granger..hope hindi..