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Save your gadgets' battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

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Save your gadgets' battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

I hope na maging sticky tong thread na to or sana mapakalat man lang sa ibang users.

Halos lahat ng gamit natin ngayon ay rechargable na. Kaya naman mas mabuting malaman natin ang technology tungkol sa mga bateryang to para magamit nang maayos.

Nababahala lang kasi ako sa ibang users na naniniwalang mas mainam na i full discharge/drain ang battery lagi. Yung iba nga pinipilit na maubos ang baterya bago magcharge. Sinisira nyo lang baterya nyo.

Di na kelangan gawin yun ngayon kasi Lithium based na mga battery natin.

Basahin nyo to kahit saglit lang at ishare sa iba. Please share you own insights on this topic.

Thanks!




Charge your battery correctly, in accordance with its type. Most newer cell phones have lithium-ion batteries, while older ones generally have nickel-based batteries. Read the label on the back of the battery or in the technical specifications in the manual to determine which yours is.




From Wikipedia:
Deep discharge
Some rechargeable batteries can be damaged by repeated deep discharge. Batteries are composed of multiple similar, but not identical, cells. Each cell has its own charge capacity. As the battery as a whole is being deeply discharged, the cell with the smallest capacity may reach zero charge and will "reverse charge" as the other cells continue to force current through it. The resulting loss of capacity is often ascribed to the memory effect.
Memory Effect

From ComputerWorld:
Memory effect refers to a temporary or permanent loss of capacity in a battery when it's discharged. Analysts at Frost & Sullivan Inc. in Houston say the phenomenon occurs most often in nickel-cadmium (Ni-Cad) cells, when they're discharged to a certain point and recharged a successive number of times. They say you can avoid memory effect by discharging the cell completely during each use and before recharging it.
True says he believes memory effect isn't really a problem for today's Ni-Cads in cell phones, since their chargers are more precise in preventing an overcharge. The memory effect was a bigger concern several years ago, when Ni-Cads were introduced for video equipment batteries as an alternative to lead-acid batteries.
"But for the most part, memory effect doesn't impact the average cell phone or appliance user any more," he notes.
The Mysterious Memory Effect of Rechargeable Batteries

From TLDP.org:
Nickel Cadmium (Ni-Cd) batteries were the standard technology for years, but today they are out of date and new laptops don't use them anymore. They are heavy and very prone to the "memory effect". When recharging a NiCd battery that has not been fully discharged, it "remembers" the old charge and continues there the next time you use it. The memory effect is caused by crystallization of the battery's substances and can permanently reduce your battery's lifetime, even make it useless. To avoid it, you should completely discharge the battery and then fully recharge it again at least once every few weeks. As this battery contains cadmium, a toxic material, it should always be recycled or disposed of properly.
Nickel Metal Hydride (Ni-MH) batteries are the cadmium-free replacement for NiCad. They are less affected by the memory effect than NiCd and thus require less maintenance and conditioning.
Lithium Ion (Li-ion) are the new standard for portable power. Li-ion batteries produce the same energy as NiMH but weighs approximately 20%-35% less. They do not suffer significantly from the memory effect unlike their NiMH and Ni-Cd counterparts.
Types of Batteries

From Digital Cameras Review Online:
Preventing the memory effect: Keep your battery healthy by fully charging and then fully discharging it at least once every two to three weeks. Exceptions to the rule are Li-Ion batteries which do not suffer from the memory effect.
Digital Camera Battery

From Duracell Batteries:
Emptying a battery to 0 volts (completely dead) can sometimes cause damage, leading to a reduction in battery life.
Duracell

From Wikihow:
Charge your battery correctly, in accordance with its type. Most newer cell phones have lithium-ion batteries, while older ones generally have nickel-based batteries. Read the label on the back of the battery or in the technical specifications in the manual to determine which yours is.
Nickel-based batteries ( NiMH) DO NOT generally suffer from a misunderstood phenomenon known as the "memory effect." As described in Wikipedia and many expert sources, the term "memory effect" has been widely mythologized to describe any and all deterioration of NiCd (and other battery chemistries), in many cases misleading consumers into further shortening the lives of the batteries through over-discharging to "recondition" them.
How to Make Your Cell Phone Battery Last Longer

From Dansdata:
If you flatten a battery before you recharge it - some people flatten their batteries manually, and some chargers do it automatically - you greatly reduce the life of the pack. A given battery pack may last for 500 full cycles, or 2000 partial ones. If you're fully flattening the battery by actually using it, then fair enough. But flattening it as part of the recharging process is goofy.
True memory only happens in sintered plate NiCd cells (which aren't necessarily the sort of NiCd you're using, and are of course completely different from any kind of NiMH cell), and it only happens when you precisely discharge a cell to exactly the same level over and over again, and recharge it without any overcharge. True memory effect happens in satellite power systems, electronics test labs, and practically nowhere else.
Fully discharging cells cures voltage depression, but if you fully discharge a whole battery then the stronger cells in the battery will "reverse" the weaker ones. The weaker ones go flat first, and then get charged backwards by the others. This is very bad for the weaker cells, and will kill a battery pack quick smart. So don't do it.
Dan's Quick Guide to Memory Effect, You Idiots

 
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Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

Ako wait ko muna madischarged as in lumabas yung battery empty, bago ko icharge ulit.


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Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

salamat sa participation nyo sa poll kahit di kau nagrereply dito sa thread..hehehe
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

ako din wait ko lang ma battery empty bago ko icharge,kasi nabasa ko na recommended daw na ubusin muna ung battery life ng nokia bago icharge,un lang pag ka alam ko.:D
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

full discharged muna sayang kasi yun energy hehe
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

suggest ko lang mga bro wag nyo na antayin mamatay yung phone bago mag-charge..kung lowbatt na pwede na icharge..kasi masama yung empty talaga kasi masisira cells ng battery nyo
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

Ako pag lumaBas yung bAtTery empty tsaka ko chinaCharge saBi kasi ng kumpare k0ng technician dapat daw ganun eh, para humaBa buhay ng bAtT m0,pero minsan nasasagad ko lalo na pag nag gagames ako at nasa kasarapan or nagDDL ako 6-5 hours ang tinatagal ng bAtT ko pag nag nenet ako
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

waaaaaaahhhh.. wag nyu iba-battery empty kasi para sa lumang mga battery yun..mga bago ngaun di dapat dinidrain masyado..kaya ko ginawa tong thread na to para mawala na yang paniniwalang yan
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

Li-Polymer yung sa battery ko, pareho din ba dyan?:noidea:
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

full discharged muna sayang kasi yun energy hehe

ako din wait ko lang ma battery empty bago ko icharge,kasi nabasa ko na recommended daw na ubusin muna ung battery life ng nokia bago icharge,un lang pag ka alam ko.:D

Li-Polymer yung sa battery ko, pareho din ba dyan?:noidea:

Nope walang memory effect ang mga lithium based na battery ngayon...ang meron lang ay yung mga Cadmium...kaya sa mga pinapatay ang baterya jan wala ako magagawa..paniniwala nyo naman yan eh..i'm just laying out the correct principles sa thread na to.. :noidea:
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

hindi naman kasi totally wala ng power pag lumabas na yung battery empty indicator sa cp, meron parin yun mahina na nga lang.. At iba naman yung tinatawag na fully discharged as in wala na talagang power yung battery, kaya safe parin tama?

How bout you TS nasubukan mo na ba? lahat kasi ng paliwanag mo ay naka base dun sa information na nakuha mo internet, pero wala ka pang sinasabi na nasubukan mo na.

Matagal ko ng nabasa yang information na yan, sa totoo lang kung susubukan mo lang pag lumabas yung battery empty, at namatay yung phone mapapansin mo na mabubuksan parin yung phone ibig sabihin may power pa yung battery.

Last, hindi mo puwedeng kontrolin ang tao sa kung ano ang dapat nilang gawin, mag guide ka lang at nasa mga tao na yun kung susunod sila o hindi.

wala akong ibig sabihing masama, at wala rin akong makipag talo, peace be with you :D
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

hindi naman kasi totally wala ng power pag lumabas na yung battery empty indicator sa cp, meron parin yun mahina na nga lang.. At iba naman yung tinatawag na fully discharged as in wala na talagang power yung battery, kaya safe parin tama?

How bout you TS nasubukan mo na ba? lahat kasi ng paliwanag mo ay naka base dun sa information na nakuha mo internet, pero wala ka pang sinasabi na nasubukan mo na.

Matagal ko ng nabasa yang information na yan, sa totoo lang kung susubukan mo lang pag lumabas yung battery empty, at namatay yung phone mapapansin mo na mabubuksan parin yung phone ibig sabihin may power pa yung battery.

Last, hindi mo puwedeng kontrolin ang tao sa kung ano ang dapat nilang gawin, mag guide ka lang at nasa mga tao na yun kung susunod sila o hindi.

wala akong ibig sabihing masama, at wala rin akong makipag talo, peace be with you :D

oo nasubukan ko na yan noon pa nung nokia 3210 pa phone ko..hehehe..hindi ko kinokontrol yung ibang tao..i'm just suggesting kung gusto nila baguhin..no need to be agressive...hindi naman ako magpopost dito kung hindi ko pa proven na totoo..nilagay ko lang yung gawa nung isang source ko para maipaliwanag nang maayos
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

masama ba yung ma drain muna yung battery bago e charge?
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

Kanya kanya lang yan n diskarte mga b0ss...
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

nabasa ko rin ito somewhere.. sa WikiHow ata. simula noon, di ko na pinapa-BattEmpty yung phone ko.
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

its totally drained, meron pa yan konting power kahit sabihin pa ng phone na battery empty, kaya mali na sabihing madaling masisira ang battery kapag battery empty na bago icharge at nabasa ko rin na minsan lang at dapat gawin yun ng once.
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

yup I agree na may konteng charge pa kahit battery empty na..pero more or less same parin yun hence the word "battery empty"... that's my two cents' worth..

salamat sa mga opinion nyo..i really appreciate it =)
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

nilagay lang yun sa mga phones dahil yung laman ng batter nya ay masyado ng mahina para mapaandar pa yung phone but its not totally empty, tama? So its safe parin dahil may laman pa sya bago icharge.

Syempre hindi naman nila ilalagay sa phone na "battery power is very low or weak to operate the device" msyadong mahaba :lol: kaya nga battery empty nalang understood na yun,but again its not totally empty as in zero para masira yung stronger cells,sigurado akong alam din manufacturer ng mobile phones yun na hindi dapat ubusin ng phones nila totally yung power ng battery.

Maraming tao ang nag rereklamo dahil mabilis maubos ang battery ng kanilang mobile phones, ngayon ang tanong saan category sila sa

Charge agad pag lowbat na
o
iCharge palang pag empty na.

Kung ating susuriin mas maraming tao ang nag chacharge ng kanilang mobile phone pag lowbat na compare sa mga taong nag aantay ng "empty" word bago icharge.
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

mga SIR. Saludo aq sainy0 dhl s mga opiny0n ni0. . Sir pde nio b aqng ihelp s pr0blem ko? ? Eto po kcng N70 ko kpg tntwgn na mblis mdrain ung batery at nmamaty cia. . Sa una kla k batery lng pero nung gnmt k ung baterry ko s ibang phone ndi nmn nmamaty cp ko. Anu po kya ggwn k s n70 ko? Ska pag chinarj k po cia using my n70 mga 5h0urx po bgo maful pero pg ibng cp mga 2-3h0urs lng. . Sir kailngan kna po bng ipaaux 2? ? Ska s tngn ni0 po anung sira n2? Sir pa help nman po pls. . I just wait 4 ur suggesti0ns tnx 4 d help. . Masters.
 
Re: Save you battery life! Memory effect debunked. Charge it properly.

Mr exaflare dont know if dapat po kita pagtanggol, ikaw po gumugulo sa thread po ng iba ei,, if may bad reaction ka po about sa thread na to maybe pwede po ka po pumunta sa barangay hall para magreclamo total bukas pa naman ngaun hahahaha

may point naman po si ts ei,, ilang taon na po ako gumagamit ng CP, bagong labas plang ang 5110 nun, peo nasa tamang paggamit lang po yan,

Mr exaflare isipin mo po, uu may natitirang energy parin ung battery kahit empty na to peo do you think enough na e2 para sa magrecharge nya at hndi xa maCra??? kaya nga meon yung principle na (prevention is better than cure) kung echacharge natin ito bago pa xa madrain edi mas tatagal buhay nya dba,, ngunit nasainyo parin yun kung anu!!!

ang mahalaga ngaun malapit na BDay ng asawa ko hahahaha
advance happy bday boss hehehe off topic na hahaha
 
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