AMD Ryzen 5 2600 or Intel i7 8700K, PC RIG

[olegnaopmaco]

Hello, ask ko lang kung alin ang mas better na build for gaming and para sa adobe PS and AI yung mga latest versions nila.

Build 1 - with GPU
➥ PROC: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core 12-Thread 3.4-3.9 ghz 16mb
➥ MOBO: MSI B350M PRO VD Plus mATX
➥ GPU: GALAX GTX 1050 ti 4GB OC 128Bit
➥ HDD: 320GB HDD Samsung/Seagate 3.5” SATA
➥ RAM: 1x8GB AVEXIR Core LED / Kingston HyperX 2400mhz DDR4
➥ CASE: Tecware Nexus M Tempered Glass Black / White Accent
➥ CASE COOLING FAN: 5x120mm RING LED cooling Fan
➥ PSU: Deepcool DE 500watts V2 Long Sleeves

Build 2 - without GPU
➥ PROC: Intel Core i7 8700K 3.7-4.7 ghz 6-Core 12-Thread 12mb
➥ MOBO: MSI H310M PRO VD mATX
➥ HDD: 1TB Seagate barracuda 3.5” SATA
➥ RAM: 1x8GB Kingston HyperX / AVEXIR Core LED 2400mhz DDR4
➥ CASE: Xigmatek Frontliner Fullside window
➥ CASE COOLING FAN: 5x120mm Blue LED cooling Fan
➥ PSU: Deepcool DE 500watts
➥ CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212

Pahingi lang ako ng suggestions, hindi kase ako makapag decide.
Thanks guys.

 

[themonyo]

ano yan? pre-built system?
the combination of the parts are not good at all lalo na sa i7...
magkano ba budget mo? maybe we can offer a better combination than those 2...
pero sa balance, lamang yung ryzen for having a dedicated video card.

yung i7 walang gpu yan... you can never enjoy games using a basic display.
very basic motherboard. 2 lang ram slot nyan at hindi mo pwede overclock... sayang yung extra cost na babayaran mo sa unlocked cpu tapos di mo rin naman mapapakinabangan dahil sa limitation ng mobo.

both builds have a single channel ram which impedes their performance. kung magagawa mong dual channel agad tapos at least 2666mhz yung ram speed, maybe you'll gain around an extra 20% of performance.
maybe add an ssd in the future kung talagang kapos na sa budget.

 

[olegnaopmaco]

30k budget lang kase para sa System Unit.

may ma irecommend kaba boss kung ano maganda built? yung pang start up muna tapos yung pwede ko nalang dagdagan or salpakan in the future.

for now kase balak ko muna kahit yung single 8gb ram lang tapos dagdagan ko nalang after. pati yung gpu kung pwede din idagdag ko nalang din yun pag nagka budget.

may ma offer kaba boss na magandang build pang startup muna within 30k budget? kahit wala munang gpu.

thanks sa reply boss.

 

[themonyo]

heto post ko sa build guide:

but the concept is still the same. 4 cores should be allocated to gaming and system operations for smoother performance. video encoding naman sa extra.



ryzen build (lagpas konti)
gpu: rx 580 4gb (2nd hand) = 6000
cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G = 8600
mobo: MSI B450M Gaming Plus = 5100
ram: GSkill Ripjaws V 8GB 2x4GB 2800Mhz = 5150
hdd: Western Digital WD Caviar Blue 1TB = 2200
ssd: none
psu: evga 500bv (pchub) = 2440
case: Tecware Edge Tempered Glass = 1950
total = 31440

intel i3 build
gpu: rx 580 4gb (2nd hand) = 6000
cpu: Intel Core i3-8100 3.60Ghz 4 Core Coffeelake = 6250
mobo: MSI B360M Mortar Titanium = 6250
ram: Gskill Aegis 8GB Dual 2400Mhz CL15 = 4550
hdd: Western Digital WD Caviar Blue 1TB = 2200
ssd: none
psu: evga 500bv (pchub) = 2440
case: Tecware Edge Tempered Glass = 1950
total = 29640


note: prices are from dynaquest's website except otherwise stated. kung may extra budget ka pa, consider an SSD

 

[olegnaopmaco]

may final build ka boss para sa ryzen 5 2600 and i7 8700k?
yung final build mismo ng 2 procie with their dedicated rams, gpus, mobos etc.

Thanks sa suggestions

 

[themonyo]

may final build ka boss para sa ryzen 5 2600 and i7 8700k?
yung final build mismo ng 2 procie with their dedicated rams, gpus, mobos etc.

Thanks sa suggestions

Anong final build? Magkano lahat ng budget mo? Pwede lumagpas 100k yan kung top of the line lalo na sa 8700k

 

[olegnaopmaco]

for now kase budget ko lang muna is around 30k.
for procie, mobo, psu, ram kahit 1x 8gb muna, 1TB HDD, siguro mag add na din ako ng 120gb SSD, yan lang muna.
may case na din ako with fan yung sa RAKK.

sunod ko nalang dagdag yung iba pang RAM, tapos GPU sunod nalang din.
kung may mai suggest ka boss ng brand na.

Salamat

 

[TopAcedL2]

heto post ko sa build guide:

INTEL G4560 = 2950 (pcgilmore) INTEL G 4600 = 3700 (PCGILMORE)
ASUS STRIX B250F GAMING = 7915
KINGSTON SA400S37/120G 2.5" SATA SSD | 2YEARS WARRANTY = 1,610php (PC LOGIC)
G SKILL F4 2400C15S 8GVR RIPJAW V 1X8GB = 5005
DEEPCOOL POWER SUPPLY UNIT DE600 600W - VERSION 2 = 1728
DEEPCOOL EARLKASE = 2388
Ace 24" Super Slim Full HD LED TV Black LED-802 = 3,845

= 26,882

bos pwede naba yan rgb lng muna sana ko saka ko na iups ung ibang parts at lagay gpu.

 

[themonyo]

i only have a few suggestions:
cpu = stick with g4560... napakaliit ng performance difference nila ng 4600 pero medyo malaki price difference lalo na kung balak mo rin naman palitan
maganda yung presyo ng ssd
mahal ata ng mobo mo... sa presyong yan, dapat mag z270 ka na lang... may gigabyte or asrock b250 na less than 4k lang.
ram, medyo mahal ata yan for a single stick ddr4 2400 merong mga around 4300 na lang for a single stick. i think go for dual kit na agad since 4 naman ram slot mo, you still have the option to upgrade in the future.
di maganda ang reputation ng psu ng deepcool... look for at least an evga bv450 or bv500... pwede rin seasonic s12ii 520 or 620w

INTEL G4560 = 2950 (pcgilmore) INTEL G 4600 = 3700 (PCGILMORE)
ASUS STRIX B250F GAMING = 7915
KINGSTON SA400S37/120G 2.5" SATA SSD | 2YEARS WARRANTY = 1,610php (PC LOGIC)
G SKILL F4 2400C15S 8GVR RIPJAW V 1X8GB = 5005
DEEPCOOL POWER SUPPLY UNIT DE600 600W - VERSION 2 = 1728
DEEPCOOL EARLKASE = 2388
Ace 24" Super Slim Full HD LED TV Black LED-802 = 3,845

= 26,882

bos pwede naba yan rgb lng muna sana ko saka ko na iups ung ibang parts at lagay gpu.

final notes: bakit di mo na lang derecho sa 8th gen at nag 7th gen ka pa? b360 mobo at g5400 cpu

note: also, don't PM me for build guides. post it on the pc assembly/build guide thread and wait for my reply dahil napupuno ang inbox. i'm not on mobi 24/7

 

[hyperdata1]

INTEL G4560 = 2950 (pcgilmore) INTEL G 4600 = 3700 (PCGILMORE)
ASUS STRIX B250F GAMING = 7915
KINGSTON SA400S37/120G 2.5" SATA SSD | 2YEARS WARRANTY = 1,610php (PC LOGIC)
G SKILL F4 2400C15S 8GVR RIPJAW V 1X8GB = 5005
DEEPCOOL POWER SUPPLY UNIT DE600 600W - VERSION 2 = 1728
DEEPCOOL EARLKASE = 2388
Ace 24" Super Slim Full HD LED TV Black LED-802 = 3,845

= 26,882

bos pwede naba yan rgb lng muna sana ko saka ko na iups ung ibang parts at lagay gpu.

Intel 5400 or stay at i3 8100 babaan mo ang mobo mo sa 310 wla nmn problem regarding dun ... get EVGA 400w kac mababa namn ang TDP ng isasaksak mo ...sa case may murang RAKK Casing worth 1k up ...

 

[olegnaopmaco]

mga boss okay kaya tong build na to?

➥ PROC: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8-Core 16-Thread 3.2-4.1 ghz 16mb 65W AM4, Wraith Spire RGB
➥ MOBO: MSI B350M PRO VD Plus mATX
➥ GPU: GALAX GTX 1050 ti 4GB OC 128Bit
➥ HDD: 320GB HDD Samsung/Seagate 3.5” SATA
➥ RAM: 1x8GB AVEXIR Core LED / Kingston HyperX 2400mhz DDR4
➥ CASE: Tecware Nexus M Tempered Glass Black / White Accent
➥ CASE COOLING FAN: 5x120mm RING LED cooling Fan
➥ PSU: Deepcool DE 500watts V2 Long Sleeves

 

[OnlyAlienCanJudgeMe]

mga boss okay kaya tong build na to?

➥ PROC: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8-Core 16-Thread 3.2-4.1 ghz 16mb 65W AM4, Wraith Spire RGB
➥ MOBO: MSI B350M PRO VD Plus mATX
➥ GPU: GALAX GTX 1050 ti 4GB OC 128Bit
➥ HDD: 320GB HDD Samsung/Seagate 3.5” SATA
➥ RAM: 1x8GB AVEXIR Core LED / Kingston HyperX 2400mhz DDR4
➥ CASE: Tecware Nexus M Tempered Glass Black / White Accent
➥ CASE COOLING FAN: 5x120mm RING LED cooling Fan
➥ PSU: Deepcool DE 500watts V2 Long Sleeves

Processor/ram lng maganda boss the rest midrange na! palitan mo din ung mobo mo HAHA masyadong mababa yan pra sa ryzen mo tsaka ung HDD hahaha syang matataas na ibang games kung ganyan lng ung storage!

 

[dothackjhe]

A Ryzen build is mostly for multi-threading performance.

i7 8th-gen build, on the other hand, is for gaming.

I suggest you go for a good Ryzen build without GPU, kung tight sa budget. APUs ang Ryzen; meaning, they come pre-built with good graphics chip, especially the 2nd-gen Ryzen architecture. Dagdagan mo na lang ng dedicated GPU after for better overall graphics processing performance.

 

[lexoter]

mga boss okay kaya tong build na to?

➥ PROC: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8-Core 16-Thread 3.2-4.1 ghz 16mb 65W AM4, Wraith Spire RGB
➥ MOBO: MSI B350M PRO VD Plus mATX
➥ GPU: GALAX GTX 1050 ti 4GB OC 128Bit
➥ HDD: 320GB HDD Samsung/Seagate 3.5” SATA
➥ RAM: 1x8GB AVEXIR Core LED / Kingston HyperX 2400mhz DDR4
➥ CASE: Tecware Nexus M Tempered Glass Black / White Accent
➥ CASE COOLING FAN: 5x120mm RING LED cooling Fan
➥ PSU: Deepcool DE 500watts V2 Long Sleeves

The build is good, pero advice: get 2 ram instead one, like 4gbx2 ram for dual channel, ryzen gain more performance with 2 ram vs 1 ram, pero kung gusto mo talaga 8gb that later you will add another 8gb go lang, and also change the mobo to its B450 version for added system stability and compatibility. And one more, get first a 120gb ssd and later if you have budget, buy a 1 tb hdd for storage, you will be surprise of the boot time of windows or other os in ssd than hdd.

 

[olegnaopmaco]

maraming salamat mga boss.

hindi talaga ako makapag decide kung ano kukunin ko. Haha

for now kase mga 30k lang budget pero balak ko dagdagan in the future.

kung mag i7 8700K nalang muna kaya then mobo at ram nalang muna bilhin ko?

 

[themonyo]

maraming salamat mga boss.

hindi talaga ako makapag decide kung ano kukunin ko. Haha

for now kase mga 30k lang budget pero balak ko dagdagan in the future.

kung mag i7 8700K nalang muna kaya then mobo at ram nalang muna bilhin ko?

do not pair an 8700k with a h310 or b360 motherboard. sayang yung overclocking features ng processor mo kasi di mo rin naman magagamit. mag i5 8600 ka na lang or kung kelangan mo talaga ng 6 cores/12 threads, i7 8700... yung walang "K" na suffix kung ipapares mo sa cheap motherboards. sayang yung extra na ibabayad mo sa unlocked processor (around 4~5k price difference nila) at pwede mo pa allocate na pambili ng ssd/ram or better gpu.

 

[brracuda]

Mga boss saan nakakabili ng 2nd hand GPU?.. salamat

 

[olegnaopmaco]

do not pair an 8700k with a h310 or b360 motherboard. sayang yung overclocking features ng processor mo kasi di mo rin naman magagamit. mag i5 8600 ka na lang or kung kelangan mo talaga ng 6 cores/12 threads, i7 8700... yung walang "K" na suffix kung ipapares mo sa cheap motherboards. sayang yung extra na ibabayad mo sa unlocked processor (around 4~5k price difference nila) at pwede mo pa allocate na pambili ng ssd/ram or better gpu.

So anong magandang mobo ang pwedeng i pair sa 8700k boss? And RAM para yun nalang bilhin ko. Salamat boss

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@themonyo boss kung i7 7700k kaya na procie ano magandang mobo, ram? Yung gpu baka mag 1050 ti muna ako

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@themonyo boss, mas okay kaya ang i5 8600k + gpu 1060?
Mas makakamura siguro ako jan kung halos same lang sila ng i7 8700k with same
Gpu?

 

[jaypz1968]

pasubscribe po . gusto ko din upgrade pc ko in the future , kuha lang ako ideas dito . salamat