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Ang unggoy bihisan man to, ungoi ka parin haha.
ahahaha tama I totally agree , parang yung ahas na nag sasalita sa hardin ng eden, ridiculous.
) clear as a rule that unless deists get out of their bibles to prove anything, there's no reason to start or engage in discussion any further. Experience tells us it adds nothing to our enlightenment, when one side is only ready to deny—or not listen to—anything.
Yes. That is why I felt we need some brief refresher's course here. We want to have sound and valid arguments, not childish squabbles over basic errors of understanding of terminologies. Arguments that start on wrong footing gets lost in meandering little issues soon enough and ends in nothing, both parties not benefiting from the whole exercise.
I also think we need to make it (politely as long as possible—come on, let's show class na lang
otherwise lilinis thread na to wala matitira...
That is why I love being atheist. Being free to be nasty and biting one time and the civilized sophist another time, all without the guilt trips
I see your point clearly. Yep, trouble is if you take away their bible from them, what are they going to be left with. Hmmm. Paano nga ba...
Inis talo na lang!!!
...on second thought, we need the moderator here to show more leniency than they normally do...
i've seen worse in listverse, for example, but otherwise they tend to settle down in the end. i even suspect some of them end up with fatal *** attractions for each other too.
well you missed my latest edit in that excerpt, but what you say here sounds fairly reasonable enough. after all, what can mere posting do...?
well, just as i said somewhere also here: it was fun at first, but it got old real quick.
—then have the option to push the "End" button once I'm done.
Well put, as usual. That's the thing about immortality, of the idea of living to eternity: people think it's a good thing generally, until they stumble upon the idea of redundancy, the utter boredom and uselessness of eternal repetition. I once came across a beautiful poem whose essential point is this: everyone is fundamentally one I, the point being that reincarnation ends when each one has lived thru the lives of countless others—heck, even thru living the life of one Jesus. Beautiful, right?
Isaac Asimov's novel also expounds on many of the themes of immortality. The Foundation Series's main protagonist, Daneel Olivaw, is the paragon of immortality: extending his life for as long as he could serve the cause of humanity, to the point where he becomes essentially a god, able to manipulate events at intergalactic level.
On another level, practical longevity strikes at the belief that is at the very heart of Christianity: of life after death, of an afterlife. With human-engineered immortality, what happens to this fundamental Christian tenet? What happens to religions in general founded on this assumption?
As Voltaire would say, if you want to make the place interesting, somebody must play the naughty devil and let him do his part. If you come to think of it, that just might be the whole essence of the entire yin-yang eastern philosophies 
. For myself, I hope you go through this link, http://www.symbianize.com/showthread.php?t=215016&p=20922355&viewfull=1#post20922355, to have a basic grasp of what many of us hold to.
People just do not get it: there's just no fun in all-goody stuff
Interestingly, current developments in science and technology all seem to point in the direction of Asimov's work. It's as if he'd foreseen it all. Immortality, mind-bending technologies, the spread of humans among all the stars and outside their own galaxy, etc., are the stuff that comprise his body of work. To some degree, Alvin Toffler had tackled these same issues in his past works (esp. Future Shock, The Third Wave), but more importantly, the social implications of such events.
