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You don't have answer? Yes walang nakalagay dun na hindi mo tinanggap yung answer but you found flaw to the answer he gave to you??? Why did you conclude that his answer has flaw??? That's my point there that means you have other idea about it?? Right? Now bakit mo naman nasabing may flaw yung sagot niya? Ano ang specific flaw sa sagot niya may we know ba? Now how would you validate his resource?? It's means you know which is valid or correct??? At the first place where would you expect him to get his answer as a believing Christian? The Quran? I don't think so...
Again our preacher as you can see in the video took more than 45mins to answer the question or questions of that atheist, giving not only Bible verses but proof that what is written in the Bible is true. I don't know if you gave time watching it, but that not one question one answer siya kung sumagot.
Now ganito lang yan, if you ask a question to a person and he answer but despite of his answer your question now branched out another question it means kung hindi mo naintindihan yung sagot eh duda ka dun sa sagot diba? kaya nagsanga pa ang tanong mo. Saan ba dyan ang nangyari sa'yo nun?? Now if sasabihin mong dun ka sa hindi mo naintindihan, tanong naman bakit?? Anong mahirap intindihin sa sagot??? Dahil hindi valid?? How you know naman na valid or hindi yung sagot???
Well base in your comparison I don't think that fits to our preacher... Again as I've said maybe to other preachers it fits.
Bottomline there is profit...
A salesman pitches for profit just like other preachers do...
But our preacher preaches not for profit, maybe you are not just getting that picture, that is why your comment is in general.
Parang ibang girls lang yan porke naloko ng isang lalake magcocomment minsan na lahat ng lalake eh manloloko na. Sinumpa na ang lahat ng lalake, bitter na. But that should not be the perspective diba?
Bigyan kita ng isang simpleng example sa logic ng scenario ko na yun ha?
Paano ko nalaman na may flaw ang sagot nya e wala naman akong sagot?
Dumating siya sa bahay dis oras ng gabi. Gusto ko malaman kung san siya galing exactly.
Ako: San ka galing?
Siya: Diyan lang sa tabi.
E sa gusto ko malaman kung san exactly siya galing. Siyempre magtatanong ulit ako. May butas yung sagot nya e. Di nya sinabi kung saan eksakto.
Ako: Saang tabi?
Siya: Sa kabilang bayan.
May sagot sya, ayon sa butas, pero di pa rin specific di ba? May final na sagot na ba ako? Wala pa. Tanong ulit.
Ako: Saang bayan? (maraming bayan sa paligid ng bayan namin, for example)
Siya: Sa bayan ng Anubayan.
Now we're getting somwhere. Pero di pa rin sakto yung location. E di ba gusto ko malaman kung saan eksakto? May sagot na ba ako dito? Wala pa. Tanong ulit, focus sa flaw.
Ako: San sa Anubayan?
Siya: Malapit sa ilog.
Uy! Konti na lang! Pero kulang pa. Wala pa yung sagot na hinahanap ko di ba? Tanong pa!
Ako: San dun?
Siya: Sa bahay ni Pedro.
Boom! Ang sagot na hinahanap ko nakita ko na! Tapos na tayo sa point one. On to point two.
Ako: Ano ginawa mo dun?
Siya: Inuman.
Baka isipin mo, bakit kelangan pa itanong eksakto kung san siya eksakto galing e inuman naman pala yun?
Aba, malay ko ba kung dun siya nakikipag inuman sa mga basagulero sa Bayan ng Kamote, or dun sa mga adik sa kabilang dulo ng ilog. Pag di sinagot yung unang tanong ng eksakto, malalaman ko ba? Magkaka-assurance ba ako na ligtas siya? Pano kung yung "Siya" e anak ko, tapos dun sa delikadong lugar siya nakikipaginuman? Get my point?
Now how does that compare to religion? Religion, agree or not, is an investment. You invest precious time, effort, and money for it. Would you want to invest on something you are not certain of? Of course not. That's why I pelted the OIC with questions.
As for your leader not acting like a salesman, you need to research more. There were videos of him preaching and "encouraging" his followers to buy the merchandise (mainly food) being sold within the vicinity of the convention center. Housing projects, were those given for free to members? Of course not! They had to pay for it. Oh, try searching for his pledges too (which are damn pricey). Charity works, libreng pasakay, those are chump change compared to earnings of churches in investments, donations and offerings. You think sa abuloy lang nabubuhay ang sekta, you need to do research. Did I mention, most are TAX-FREE? None of us here, most of which saw lucrative lifestyles of religious leaders, have seen a real "non-profit" organization, yours included. Maybe you will do research, but can you do that without bias? Will you be able to do deep research on your sect using unbiased sources? The lawsuits, scandals, dubious donations, everything in your sect's dark side? Most don't, that's why they stay fanatical to their church.
My comment is in general. That is correct. Though the conclusion may not be final, but all of us here see that. Your leader and organization are included in it. Try this: Cite me an example of a non-profit church of your sect's scale or more, aside from yours (coming from you, that would be biased).
Addendum:
May field assignment ulit ako so I'll be away for a few days, but you can still reply and I'll get back to you once I arrive home.
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