Atheists and Agnostics Meeting Place

[det2x]

mali nmn po pag kakaintindi nyu, Atheist accept "Science" and scientific methods, Atheism is not a belief but a lack of it.

The Atheist position is, when asked if a GOD exist the answer is "I dont know".

The Religious position is, when asked if a GOD exist the answer is "YES".

simple lng diba.

Ah ok, lumambot na po ngaun. Got it clear sir. Thanks again.

One Scientific Fact I consider is this...
The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earth’s crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust.

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Fascinating isn't it?

 

[JackFrost10]

Ah ok, lumambot na po ngaun. Got it clear sir. Thanks again.

One Scientific Fact I consider is this...
The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earth’s crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust.

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Fascinating isn't it?

yes, so the burden of prof is for the believers and ever since the claim is made, their is no evidence of GOD, so religion could leave science alone.

and you are off topic,

 

[CBMyum]

Think of this sir, magkaiba po pag sinabi mong hindi ka naniniwala sa Dios at hindi ka naniniwalang may Dios. San ka po ba dyan sa 2?

Pinaiikot mo lang kasi usapan and you're just simply playing with words here.

1. hindi ka naniniwala sa Dios - you dont believe in god
2. hindi ka naniniwalang may Dios - you dont believe that god exist

halos pareho lang po yang dalawa and wala ako dyan sa dalawa,

absence or lack of belief nga po diba?, -walang PANINIWALA o alisin mo ang PANINIWALA o HAKA HAKA sa tagalog

i only accept facts and evidence (belief is not my game)

belief-an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.


believing or not believing in something is a belief system, (Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system)
Example of belief system: i believe that yahweh is the one true god, and i dont believe in other gods.

so add nalang ako ng 3rd choice ha

3. hindi ko alam kung ang diyos ay umiiral, hindi ko kaylangang maniwala o hindi maniwala dahil base sa siyensa walang ebidensya o proweba na ang mga diyos ay umiiral..
kaya wag ka na mamroblema diyan at mamuhay tayo ng payapa at masaya

 

[det2x]

1. hindi ka naniniwala sa Dios - you dont believe in god
2. hindi ka naniniwalang may Dios - you dont believe that god exist

halos pareho lang po yang dalawa and wala ako dyan sa dalawa,

absence or lack of belief nga po diba?, -walang PANINIWALA o alisin mo ang PANINIWALA o HAKA HAKA sa tagalog

Magkaiba yan bossing.
Pag sinabi kong hindi ako naniniwala o nagtitiwala sa'yo -It means wala akong tiwala sa'yo.
Pag sinabi ko naman hindi ako naniniwala na umiiral ka... -It means na sa pagkaka alam ko ay walang CBMyum.
Wala ka dyan sa dalawa?? Weh? Di nga? Ok, sabi mo eh...

at hindi haka haka ang paniniwala.. Speculation sa ingles ang pagkakaalam ko sa tagalog ay haka-haka. Ewan ko lang kung nabago na ngaun ang translation.

i only accept facts and evidence (belief is not my game)

belief-an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.

akala ko ba magkaiba ayon sa inyo ang accept at believe??
o allergic lang talaga kayo sa salitang belief/believe?

believing or not believing in something is a belief system, (Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system)
Example of belief system: i believe that yahweh is the one true god, and i dont believe in other gods.

so add nalang ako ng 3rd choice ha

3. hindi ko alam kung ang diyos ay umiiral, hindi ko kaylangang maniwala o hindi maniwala dahil base sa siyensa walang ebidensya o proweba na ang mga diyos ay umiiral..
kaya wag ka na mamroblema diyan at mamuhay tayo ng payapa at masaya

So tinatanggap mo lang sa sarili mo na walang Dios na umiiral. Tama ba?
Pilit nyo pa kasing inaalis ang belief/believe eh... ayaw nyo lang kasing mabansagang believer din kayo.

Aminin nyo man o hindi may paniniwala kayo... Kaya nga may position o stand kayo diba? You're just making our conversation complicated...
Hindi naman pag sinabi mong naniniwala ka eh patungkol na agad sa Dios un.

 

[CBMyum]

Magkaiba yan bossing.
Pag sinabi kong hindi ako naniniwala o nagtitiwala sa'yo -It means wala akong tiwala sa'yo.
Pag sinabi ko naman hindi ako naniniwala na umiiral ka... -It means na sa pagkaka alam ko ay walang CBMyum.
Wala ka dyan sa dalawa?? Weh? Di nga? Ok, sabi mo eh...

at hindi haka haka ang paniniwala.. Speculation sa ingles ang pagkakaalam ko sa tagalog ay haka-haka. Ewan ko lang kung nabago na ngaun ang translation.



akala ko ba magkaiba ayon sa inyo ang accept at believe??
o allergic lang talaga kayo sa salitang belief/believe?


So tinatanggap mo lang sa sarili mo na walang Dios na umiiral. Tama ba?
Pilit nyo pa kasing inaalis ang belief/believe eh... ayaw nyo lang kasing mabansagang believer din kayo.

hahaha epic talaga hirap ipaintindi

lack of belief nga tapos pinipilit na maging believer

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well tama ka naman allergic ako sa belief/believe ewan ko lang sa ibang atis dito

because KNOWING is POWER, BELIEF is WEAKNESS

well haka haka at paniniwala ay halos pareho lang din kahit magkaiba ng definition pareho silang walang proof at evidence

Aminin nyo man o hindi may paniniwala kayo... Kaya nga may position o stand kayo diba? You're just making our conversation complicated...
Hindi naman pag sinabi mong naniniwala ka eh patungkol na agad sa Dios un.

ano ba yung paniniwala namin na sinasabi mo? anong position at stand namin?

ikaw nga tong komplikado e..

wala naman kaming pinaglalaban dito, mga theist lang naman may pinaglalaban

 

[det2x]

hahaha epic talaga hirap ipaintindi

lack of belief nga tapos pinipilit na maging believer

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well tama ka naman allergic ako sa belief/believe ewan ko lang sa ibang atis dito

because KNOWING is POWER, BELIEF is WEAKNESS

well haka haka at paniniwala ay halos pareho lang din kahit magkaiba ng definition pareho silang walang proof at evidence

Eh di kayo na malakas! Malakas ang alin?

ano ba yung paniniwala namin na sinasabi mo? anong position at stand namin?

ikaw nga tong komplikado e..

wala naman kaming pinaglalaban dito, mga theist lang naman may pinaglalaban

Wala ka bang pinaglalaban?
Nagtataka lang din naman ako, ang haba na din ng reply mo... hahaha

 

[CBMyum]

Eh di kayo na malakas! Malakas ang alin?



Wala ka bang pinaglalaban?
Nagtataka lang din naman ako, ang haba na din ng reply mo... hahaha

malakas mang asar?

hahaha haba naba? entertaining kasi makipag discussion sa inyo, in the end di nyo pa din lubos naiintindihan ang atheism

 

[det2x]

malakas mang asar?

hahaha haba naba? entertaining kasi makipag discussion sa inyo, in the end di nyo pa din lubos naiintindihan ang atheism

With great POWER comes great RESPONSIBILITY sir ika nga ni Uncle Ben.

Oo mahirap talaga ipaintindi sa iba pag sa sarili mo lang tinanggap tapos hindi ka naniniwala sa sarili mo... Un ung nakuha kong wisdom sa discussion dito.

 

[CBMyum]

With great POWER comes great RESPONSIBILITY sir ika nga ni Uncle Ben.

Oo mahirap talaga ipaintindi sa iba pag sa sarili mo lang tinanggap tapos hindi ka naniniwala sa sarili mo... Un ung nakuha kong wisdom sa discussion dito.

wow, spiderman

teka wisdom ba yan? good for you

 

[JackFrost10]

So tinatanggap mo lang sa sarili mo na walang Dios na umiiral. Tama ba?
Pilit nyo pa kasing inaalis ang belief/believe eh... ayaw nyo lang kasing mabansagang believer din kayo.

Aminin nyo man o hindi may paniniwala kayo... Kaya nga may position o stand kayo diba? You're just making our conversation complicated...
Hindi naman pag sinabi mong naniniwala ka eh patungkol na agad sa Dios un.

ang position po o stand ng Atheist ay, "hindi namin alam kng may GOD o wala, based sa current evidence ay walang GOD", kayo po ang nag claim na 100% sure GOD exist, Atheist is 100% sure about the current evidence na walang GOD.

Hindi nmn po complicated ung position or stand ng Atheist eh, kaso ma pride lng talaga ang mga believers na mag sabing wala silang solid evidence about GOD's existence.

Your GOD is among the thousands of GOD's that humanities made from the past 2000 years, unless you present an evidence you only have a story.

 

[CBMyum]

ang position po o stand ng Atheist ay, "hindi namin alam kng may GOD o wala, based sa current evidence ay walang GOD", kayo po ang nag claim na 100% sure GOD exist, Atheist is 100% sure about the current evidence na walang GOD.

Hindi nmn po complicated ung position or stand ng Atheist eh, kaso ma pride lng talaga ang mga believers na mag sabing wala silang solid evidence about GOD's existence.

Your GOD is among the thousands of GOD's that humanities made from the past 2000 years, unless you present an evidence you only have a story.

at dahil wala silang solid evidence that their god exist.. ibabato nila satin ang burden of proof

 

[ScyllaJEN96]

#PalusotNaLang

Nice try buddy!

Paano pong palusot? eh simple logic po iyon. kaylanman hindi po magiging isang uri ng sport ang hindi pag lalaro ng basketball. as per sa "walang paniniwala" sa existence ng isang uri ng dyos.

"walang paniniwala" = ibig sabihin yung paniniwala ay wala, kumbaga kaylanman hindi magiging negative or positive ang zero "0" dahil ang katumbas ng zero ay wala. so therefore kung wala o zero ang belief/paniniwala, hindi nag eexist ang belief/paniniwala. so kung di po nag eexist yung belief/paniniwala hindi po sya isang uri ng belief/paniniwala kasi di nga nag eexist yung belief/paniniwala. as per logic dun sa hindi paglalaro ng basketball ay isang uri rin ng sport

 

[det2x]

ang position po o stand ng Atheist ay, "hindi namin alam kng may GOD o wala, based sa current evidence ay walang GOD", kayo po ang nag claim na 100% sure GOD exist, Atheist is 100% sure about the current evidence na walang GOD.

Hindi nmn po complicated ung position or stand ng Atheist eh, kaso ma pride lng talaga ang mga believers na mag sabing wala silang solid evidence about GOD's existence.

Your GOD is among the thousands of GOD's that humanities made from the past 2000 years, unless you present an evidence you only have a story.

"Hindi nyo alam kung may God o wala, pero 100% sure kayo about the current evidence na walang God."
ano ba talaga may evidence ba talaga o wala? 100% sure kayo o hindi

Now I am not claiming anything here po sir, out of curiosity that's why I am here... with all due respect, I was wondering pano kayo nakumbinse na maging atheist, kaya nga tanong ko is "how can you convince me to become one" kunsakali... Kaso suko na agad kayo, Well kasi nga siguro hindi din ako ganun kabilis makumbinse.

so parang LGBT community din pala atheism? tama ba?

well for me hindi naman po siguro mahirap tanggapin na maraming gods, andyan ang god ng muslim, buddhist, hindu and many more. Logically speaking ang dami diba?

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Paano pong palusot? eh simple logic po iyon. kaylanman hindi po magiging isang uri ng sport ang hindi pag lalaro ng basketball. as per sa "walang paniniwala" sa existence ng isang uri ng dyos.

"walang paniniwala" = ibig sabihin yung paniniwala ay wala, kumbaga kaylanman hindi magiging negative or positive ang zero "0" dahil ang katumbas ng zero ay wala. so therefore kung wala o zero ang belief/paniniwala, hindi nag eexist ang belief/paniniwala. so kung di po nag eexist yung belief/paniniwala hindi po sya isang uri ng belief/paniniwala kasi di nga nag eexist yung belief/paniniwala. as per logic dun sa hindi paglalaro ng basketball ay isang uri rin ng sport

allergic ka din po ba sa salitang paniniwala or belief sir?

pareho ka din ba ng mga fellow atis mo dito na tumanggap lang din po pero hindi naniwala?

 

[shady45]

ang position po o stand ng Atheist ay, "hindi namin alam kng may GOD o wala, based sa current evidence ay walang GOD", kayo po ang nag claim na 100% sure GOD exist, Atheist is 100% sure about the current evidence na walang GOD.

Hindi nmn po complicated ung position or stand ng Atheist eh, kaso ma pride lng talaga ang mga believers na mag sabing wala silang solid evidence about GOD's existence.

Your GOD is among the thousands of GOD's that humanities made from the past 2000 years, unless you present an evidence you only have a story.

Am I reading this correctly? Atheist talking about PRIDE?

Makasingit lang koya, siguro try to reflect din muna sa sarili mo about sa pride na sinasabi mo.

But for me as believer to God with all humility I do admit na may mga bagay na hindi abot ng aking pagiisip koya. Solid evidence hanap nyo? Tanungin mo lang budhi mo eh ask mo sa sarili mo kung may Dios nga ba o wala, Now kung hindi mo matanggap na may mas Greater than you un siguro ung pride na tinutukoy mo. yun lang naman ang aking pananaw dyan sa pride na sinasabi mo.

Una una hindi pa kami pinanganganak may pinakikilala na ang Bible na Dios at mga dios. Kung hindi nyo matanggap un at sa tingin nyo fairytale lang ang Bible, problema nyo na un.

 

[NANDAYO]

makasingit nga po ,,hindi ito off topic ,,may karugtong ito ,,ang tanong ko sa mga believers

1. umiinom po ba kayo ng gamot kapag kayo ay may sakit? like biogesic ,, antibiotic etc etc,,

2. nagpapagamot po ba kayo sa mga doctor kapag may sakit kayo? o nag pupunta ng hospital?

3. napapagaling po ba ng mga pastor nyo ang mga may sakit na schizophrenia ?

 

[poorpost]

pwede pasali? haha

eto na

eto na storya ko kung bakit ako naging "atis"

disclaimer: hindi ako writer. sorry na lang kung lame writing ang mababasa nyo or may mga maling grammer or spelling. huehuehue

once upon a time, lol. may nakilala akong teacher sa school namin, syempre saan ba nahahanap ang teacher, syempre sa school, well, ininivite ako at pumunta ako sa kanilang event called Life Connect (Connect your life to Jesus), isang event every friday kung saan maraming kabataan, I mean most of the population, and may games, banda, role play, then may speaker, then bago umuwi may gathering parang meet and greet, "see you next friday", positive vibes, and, boom!, i'm in. *skip to encounter*. sa encounter ma-eencounter niyo daw si God, well, I have doubts and I can say I didn't experience "encountering" God, but alam niyo yung feeling na you admit that you're weak and sick and you need help and you can't stop those tears from falling. damn, that's dramatic and poetic, *back to story*. end of the encounter, parang ako lng yung hindi satisfied, ewan ko, baka sa doubt or conscious lang ako whole event, but I let it pass. I just go with flow, and trust the process of being a christian and having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. *the process*. ang hirap palang maging christian, sing hirap nang vegetarian, siguro, hindi ako naging vegan, pero alam ko ang battle ng discipline at ng dopamine, if you know what I mean. Alam niyo, yung doubt ko, unti-unting nawawala and then there's this one big conference that light up the fire. the words really motivate and inspire me. I can feel the fire burning inside and I can say this is faith!!!!
but that fire is gone the next morning I wake up. *poof*. this happens like most of the time. what frustrates me is that I don't know how. I pray, do devotional and talk to God, but it's still happen. and yes, i quit because of that. it's like i'm in pain and it's getting worse. maybe there's something to do with psychological thing, like there should be other faithful people around, the music, ambiance. i start asking questions. i realize it's not doubt, it's curiosity. so i made research, haha, big word. well, actually i just browse here, on this site.

be the best version of yourself, that's what i learn on having a relationship with God. i'm still doing it even though i'm not a christian anymore. our body will decompose but we don't know what will happen to our consciousness when we die, we don't know if there's heaven or hell either, but don't waste your life here on earth. always give your best, don't hold back, live like you're dying, live on your terms. there's no God's plan or destiny or tragedy, what there is, is a chain of effect on every action. you can't control everything, just let the fuck go. you can't convince anyone to be like you even God.

be the best version of yourself is the new YOLO

hindi pa to masyadong detailed, sa office ko lang kasi to nasulat *medyo di busy*

 

[shady45]

makasingit nga po ,,hindi ito off topic ,,may karugtong ito ,,ang tanong ko sa mga believers

ok sure no problem.

1. umiinom po ba kayo ng gamot kapag kayo ay may sakit? like biogesic ,, antibiotic etc etc,,

as much as possible I try to avoid synthetic medicines, if tolerable naman un sakit, sakit ng ulo? tinutulog ko lang, pag sipon gaya ngaun naguuulan dionadaan ko sa inon ng tea with calamansi and it helps naman .

2. nagpapagamot po ba kayo sa mga doctor kapag may sakit kayo? o nag pupunta ng hospital?

If symptoms persist consult your doctor, yes of course I do.

3. napapagaling po ba ng mga pastor nyo ang mga may sakit na schizophrenia ?

Pastor? Sorry we don't call our leaders pastor, we just call them brother koya and nope they are not doctors, preachers sila kaya what they do is preach.

 

[det2x]

pwede pasali? haha

eto na

eto na storya ko kung bakit ako naging "atis"

disclaimer: hindi ako writer. sorry na lang kung lame writing ang mababasa nyo or may mga maling grammer or spelling. huehuehue

once upon a time, lol. may nakilala akong teacher sa school namin, syempre saan ba nahahanap ang teacher, syempre sa school, well, ininivite ako at pumunta ako sa kanilang event called Life Connect (Connect your life to Jesus), isang event every friday kung saan maraming kabataan, I mean most of the population, and may games, banda, role play, then may speaker, then bago umuwi may gathering parang meet and greet, "see you next friday", positive vibes, and, boom!, i'm in. *skip to encounter*. sa encounter ma-eencounter niyo daw si God, well, I have doubts and I can say I didn't experience "encountering" God, but alam niyo yung feeling na you admit that you're weak and sick and you need help and you can't stop those tears from falling. damn, that's dramatic and poetic, *back to story*. end of the encounter, parang ako lng yung hindi satisfied, ewan ko, baka sa doubt or conscious lang ako whole event, but I let it pass. I just go with flow, and trust the process of being a christian and having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. *the process*. ang hirap palang maging christian, sing hirap nang vegetarian, siguro, hindi ako naging vegan, pero alam ko ang battle ng discipline at ng dopamine, if you know what I mean. Alam niyo, yung doubt ko, unti-unting nawawala and then there's this one big conference that light up the fire. the words really motivate and inspire me. I can feel the fire burning inside and I can say this is faith!!!!
but that fire is gone the next morning I wake up. *poof*. this happens like most of the time. what frustrates me is that I don't know how. I pray, do devotional and talk to God, but it's still happen. and yes, i quit because of that. it's like i'm in pain and it's getting worse. maybe there's something to do with psychological thing, like there should be other faithful people around, the music, ambiance. i start asking questions. i realize it's not doubt, it's curiosity. so i made research, haha, big word. well, actually i just browse here, on this site.

be the best version of yourself, that's what i learn on having a relationship with God. i'm still doing it even though i'm not a christian anymore. our body will decompose but we don't know what will happen to our consciousness when we die, we don't know if there's heaven or hell either, but don't waste your life here on earth. always give your best, don't hold back, live like you're dying, live on your terms. there's no God's plan or destiny or tragedy, what there is, is a chain of effect on every action. you can't control everything, just let the fuck go. you can't convince anyone to be like you even God.

be the best version of yourself is the new YOLO

hindi pa to masyadong detailed, sa office ko lang kasi to nasulat *medyo di busy*

ah ok, in other words it all started with doubt(s)...
but when you have your answers sa questions mo or doubts mo hindi na doubt yun, belief na un (not if allegic ka din sa word na belief/believe).
well siguro mali ka lang ng taong napagtanungan when your doubts started to haunt you.
tama ka you can't convince anyone to be like you, we all have our own differences. but you can influence others with your ideas, just like on your part I'm sure may nabasa ka dito or book/books (not the Bible for sure), or narinig ka about atheism that made you renounce Christianity. am I correct?

 

[feerfressure]

hi guys. just want to ask everyone here.
but first i dont want to imply any religion or affiliations, only facts.


Is there anyone here that can prove that there is no God? and that Jesus Christ didnt die on the cross and more importantly Jesus Christ didnt rise from the dead 3 days after he died.

in addition, did you know that bible has thousands evidence (original manuscripts) compared to those written in textbooks about "plato" and the like.


kasi base on scientific evidence it will really lead to conlusion that there is God. and all the bible claims are true. thanks guys. have a great day

 

[poorpost]

ah ok, in other words it all started with doubt(s)...
but when you have your answers sa questions mo or doubts mo hindi na doubt yun, belief na un (not if allegic ka din sa word na belief/believe).
well siguro mali ka lang ng taong napagtanungan when your doubts started to haunt you.
tama ka you can't convince anyone to be like you, we all have our own differences. but you can influence others with your ideas, just like on your part I'm sure may nabasa ka dito or book/books (not the Bible for sure), or narinig ka about atheism that made you renounce Christianity. am I correct?

I didn't ask any person about my doubts. I made my "research", hehe. My point is hinanap ko ang mga sagot sa pagdududa ko nang ako lang. you know, curiosity.

actually napagod din ako sa pagiging christian, I admit walang akong breakthroughs when I was a christian, all I have is a loop or endless routine. yung nasa point kana na hindi mo gusto yung ginagawa mo pero ginagawa mo parin. yung alam mong walang pupuntahan kase kailangan mo pang mamatay para lang mapatunayan ang paniniwala mo.
marami akong natutunan sa pagiging kristyano, hanggang ngayon nasa systema ko parin, wala nga lang God or Jesus Christ

what made me an "atis", maybe this thread, LOL. yeah, big part part of it... but I think it's science that really made me an atheist, remember my "research"? and for me there's no logical or rational reason why a God should exist.