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[dwarven24]

3 times ko na po ata itatanong ito, hindi parin nasasagot ehe. XD

Ano nga po ba meron sa verses ng Quran, ano po ba special dito?
Bakit parang sinasabi nyo na, hindi
makakagawa ang tao katulad ng verses ng Quran?

Qur'an sir is the word of Allah(SWT), so, sa mga nagsasabi po ng fabricated ang Qur'an, yun yung challenge namin, produce a like verses, surahs. ganun lang sir.

 

[zwackin]

Anu ang evidence ba na nanggaling nga kay allah ang quaran? Mismo si allah ba ang nagdikta ng revelation?

 

[dwarven24]

hehe, hinde sir zwackin, di mo pa pala alam ang history ng Qur'an, dba jan ka magaling? sa mga quoted verses, akala ko alam mo na kung saan nanggaling ang Qur'an.

 

[sivre009]

@sir dwarven

Pareho lang po kayo ng sagot ni sir rafh. XD

Yung tanong ko po is, bakit hindi magagaya ng tao ang verses ng Quran.
Ano po ba meron dito, na hindi magagaya ng tao?

 

[kmadz]

Al Masad Surah
111. Palm Fibre, The Flame
111:1 Perish the hands of the Father of Flame! Perish he!
(Tabbat yada abee lahabin watabba)
111:2 No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains!
(Ma aghna AAanhu maluhuwama kasaba)
111:3 Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of Blazing Flame!
( Sayasla naran thatalahabin)
111:4 His wife shall carry the (crackling) wood - As fuel!- (Waimraatuhu hammalata alhatabi) 111:5 A twisted rope of palm-leaf fibre round her (own) neck!
( Fee jeediha hablun min masadin)


-would you believe that is word of God cursing his creation!tnt

 

[dwarven24]

@sir dwarven

Pareho lang po kayo ng sagot ni sir rafh. XD

Yung tanong ko po is, bakit hindi magagaya ng tao ang verses ng Quran.
Ano po ba meron dito, na hindi magagaya ng tao?

hehe, siguro click ang mga sinasabi namin at di mo nagegets,

ano ba meron dito?, its a Word of GOD po sir.

kaya kung meron man po kayang gumawa ng kapero ng Qur'an, ay sa tingin ko, pwede na siyang gawin diyos.

 

[dwarven24]

Al Masad Surah
111. Palm Fibre, The Flame
111:1 Perish the hands of the Father of Flame! Perish he!
(Tabbat yada abee lahabin watabba)
111:2 No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains!
(Ma aghna AAanhu maluhuwama kasaba)
111:3 Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of Blazing Flame!
( Sayasla naran thatalahabin)
111:4 His wife shall carry the (crackling) wood - As fuel!- (Waimraatuhu hammalata alhatabi) 111:5 A twisted rope of palm-leaf fibre round her (own) neck!
( Fee jeediha hablun min masadin)


-would you believe that is word of God cursing his creation!tnt

wala naman akong nabasa na word na CURSE sir.

 

[knifoo]

^ sa tingin ko kung verses lang, baka kaya e..

kung gagawa ang isang taong well versed sa koran ng ilang made-up verses at

iinsert or itabi ito side by side sa verses na nasa koran talaga.

malalaman ba agad na peke yun or gawa lang ng tao?

gaano ba talaga kalaki ang pagkakaiba mga salitang gawa ng Diyos at ang mga salitang

gawa ng tao?

 

[rafh27]

@sir dwarven

Pareho lang po kayo ng sagot ni sir rafh. XD

Yung tanong ko po is, bakit hindi magagaya ng tao ang verses ng Quran.
Ano po ba meron dito, na hindi magagaya ng tao?

malapit na masira ang plaka dre.. hindi siya magagaya kasi God ang author, ano ba meron sa Quran? basahin mo na lang sir, especially yun original arabic talaga, ang composition, hymn, eloquent, etc.

 

[rafh27]

Al Masad Surah
111. Palm Fibre, The Flame
111:1 Perish the hands of the Father of Flame! Perish he!
(Tabbat yada abee lahabin watabba)
111:2 No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains!
(Ma aghna AAanhu maluhuwama kasaba)
111:3 Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of Blazing Flame!
( Sayasla naran thatalahabin)
111:4 His wife shall carry the (crackling) wood - As fuel!- (Waimraatuhu hammalata alhatabi) 111:5 A twisted rope of palm-leaf fibre round her (own) neck!
( Fee jeediha hablun min masadin)


-would you believe that is word of God cursing his creation!tnt

i do believe, if we study and analyze the surah, it is clear that God is perfect, he is able to punish his creation, kung all loving lang ang God an he cannot able to punish, then he is not perfect nor God,

this chapter reveal how the uncle of prophet muhammad PBUH will taste the punishment in hellfire,

as we read throughout the history of Islam during the time of the sahaba, Abu lahab was well known Hypocrites, Liar, horrible, evil doers, even the time before he died in the battle of badr, hes still boastfull, he is also well known who made a terrible persecution in early muslim stage during in mecca.

 

[rafh27]

^ sa tingin ko kung verses lang, baka kaya e..

kung gagawa ang isang taong well versed sa koran ng ilang made-up verses at

iinsert or itabi ito side by side sa verses na nasa koran talaga.

malalaman ba agad na peke yun or gawa lang ng tao?

gaano ba talaga kalaki ang pagkakaiba mga salitang gawa ng Diyos at ang mga salitang

gawa ng tao?

opo, malalaman agad na meron dinagdag at binawasan, their are millions of muslim's memorize entire Quran letter by letter, dito lang sa pinas marami na, sa zamboanga city meron school na nagmmemorize ang muslim from age 13-30 years old, and it is imposible for the infidels to manipulate Quran,

its already happen before in india, where a british changes some verses in the Quran, and he publish it by making a tons of copies, however he was failed to spread it up, because his Quran was rejected by the Hafiz, the found out that some verses were injectdd by unknown verses and some verses was remove. kaya imposible sirain ang verses ng Quran, and God also said that Quran is well protected.

 

[knifoo]

opo, malalaman agad na meron dinagdag at binawasan, their are millions of muslim's memorize entire Quran letter by letter, dito lang sa pinas marami na, sa zamboanga city meron school na nagmmemorize ang muslim from age 13-30 years old, and it is imposible for the infidels to manipulate Quran,

its already happen before in india, where a british changes some verses in the Quran, and he publish it by making a tons of copies, however he was failed to spread it up, because his Quran was rejected by the Hafiz, the found out that some verses were injectdd by unknown verses and some verses was remove. kaya imposible sirain ang verses ng Quran, and God also said that Quran is well protected.

yup, that may be true. pero ang pinaka tinutukoy ko ay yung

kaibahan nya sa mga gawa lang ng tao?

yung nabanggit mo kasi ay maaring ihalintulad lang sa kakayahan

nating malaman kung may kulang, nadagdag o naiba na gulay sa

kantang bahay kubo...

alam mong may kulang kasi memorized mo nga yung kanta..

para mas simple

ano ang pinagkaiba ng koran sa iba?

dahil sinulat ito ng Diyos?- may ilang libro na ganyan din ang sinasabi

dahil nakapagpredict sya ng mga bagay bagay?- may ilang libro din na nagawa na yan..

ano po ba talaga?

 

[rafh27]

yup, that may be true. pero ang pinaka tinutukoy ko ay yung

kaibahan nya sa mga gawa lang ng tao?

yung nabanggit mo kasi ay maaring ihalintulad lang sa kakayahan

nating malaman kung may kulang, nadagdag o naiba na gulay sa

kantang bahay kubo...

alam mong may kulang kasi memorized mo nga yung kanta..

para mas simple

ano ang pinagkaiba ng koran sa iba?

dahil sinulat ito ng Diyos?- may ilang libro na ganyan din ang sinasabi

dahil nakapagpredict sya ng mga bagay bagay?- may ilang libro din na nagawa na yan..

ano po ba talaga?

uuwi lang tayo sa sirang plaka dre, better read the entire Quran and understand it na lang, maybe tomorow or someday, meron na din ako binigay na video ng isang atheist na chinallenge niya ang Qur'an, alhamdulillah he end up as a muslim kahit naging budhist pa siya, christian, hindu, at iba pang religion, pero sa Qur'an lang siya napaniwala. if you want to see the truth, challenge the Quran by yourself, sabi nga ng God "if you are planning, and we too are planning, and God is the best of planner." e experience mo na lang, kasi walang patutunguhan ang pag pphylosopo natin dito sa tnb

 

[kmadz]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kmadz Al Masad Surah
111. Palm Fibre, The Flame
111:1 Perish the hands of the Father of
Flame! Perish he!
(Tabbat yada abee lahabin watabba)
111:2 No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains!
(Ma aghna AAanhu maluhuwama
kasaba)
111:3 Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of
Blazing Flame!
( Sayasla naran thatalahabin) 111:4 His wife shall carry the
(crackling) wood - As fuel!-
(Waimraatuhu hammalata alhatabi)
111:5 A twisted rope of palm-leaf fibre
round her (own) neck!
( Fee jeediha hablun min masadin) -would you believe that is word of
God cursing his creation!tnt
i do believe, if we study and analyze
the surah, it is clear that God is perfect,
he is able to punish his creation, kung
all loving lang ang God an he cannot able to punish, then he is not perfect
nor God,
this chapter reveal how the uncle of
prophet muhammad PBUH will taste
the punishment in hellfire,
as we read throughout the history of Islam during the time of the sahaba,
Abu lahab was well known
Hypocrites, Liar, horrible, evil doers,
even the time before he died in the
battle of badr, hes still boastfull, he is
also well known who made a terrible persecution in early muslim stage
during in mecca.
Quote:
Gusto ko pa sana magtanong..peo parang away mo na makipagdebate ayun sa mga post mo sa iba.I respect that

 

[dwarven24]

tanong lang naman sir gusto mo dba?, hinde debate?.

 

[rafh27]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kmadz Al Masad Surah
111. Palm Fibre, The Flame
111:1 Perish the hands of the Father of
Flame! Perish he!
(Tabbat yada abee lahabin watabba)
111:2 No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains!
(Ma aghna AAanhu maluhuwama
kasaba)
111:3 Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of
Blazing Flame!
( Sayasla naran thatalahabin) 111:4 His wife shall carry the
(crackling) wood - As fuel!-
(Waimraatuhu hammalata alhatabi)
111:5 A twisted rope of palm-leaf fibre
round her (own) neck!
( Fee jeediha hablun min masadin) -would you believe that is word of
God cursing his creation!tnt
i do believe, if we study and analyze
the surah, it is clear that God is perfect,
he is able to punish his creation, kung
all loving lang ang God an he cannot able to punish, then he is not perfect
nor God,
this chapter reveal how the uncle of
prophet muhammad PBUH will taste
the punishment in hellfire,
as we read throughout the history of Islam during the time of the sahaba,
Abu lahab was well known
Hypocrites, Liar, horrible, evil doers,
even the time before he died in the
battle of badr, hes still boastfull, he is
also well known who made a terrible persecution in early muslim stage
during in mecca.
Quote:
Gusto ko pa sana magtanong..peo parang away mo na makipagdebate ayun sa mga post mo sa iba.I respect that

debate? ang pag dedebate hindi dito sa forum, dapat nasa public ng magka alaman,

malinaw naman ang title, tanong lang, walang debate..

 

[pongbot]

QUESTION: Why do Muslims continually discredit the Bible on grounds that the Qur'an/Koran, though 600 years younger, has not been corrupted like the Bible?

Were you aware that Muhammad himself called the Christian Bible (Injeel) "Guidance and Light". Muhammad also commanded the reading of the Christian Bible as part of Islam. Have you read the Christian Bible?
Why is the unity of the Qur'an so strongly taught, when historical records prove the contrary?

 

[rafh27]

QUESTION: Why do Muslims continually discredit the Bible on grounds that the Qur'an/Koran, though 600 years younger, has not been corrupted like the Bible?

Were you aware that Muhammad himself called the Christian Bible (Injeel) "Guidance and Light". Muhammad also commanded the reading of the Christian Bible as part of Islam. Have you read the Christian Bible?
Why is the unity of the Qur'an so strongly taught, when historical records prove the contrary?

good question,
its like windows OS,
if you are living in 2012 where Windows 8 is now available, would you still stay in windows 98? While all apps and software have been updated and the OS itself.
And the software are both same from MICROSOFT,

 

[dwarven24]

QUESTION: Why do Muslims continually discredit the Bible on grounds that the Qur'an/Koran, though 600 years younger, has not been corrupted like the Bible?

Were you aware that Muhammad himself called the Christian Bible (Injeel) "Guidance and Light". Muhammad also commanded the reading of the Christian Bible as part of Islam. Have you read the Christian Bible?
Why is the unity of the Qur'an so strongly taught, when historical records prove the contrary?

kasi sir, pag di corrupt yun bible, eh sana isa lang, isang version, original letters, aramaic as i know. word of God naman yan, di na dapat palitan or baguhin. dba?.

 

[cardssorry]

... talaga brod?

... wala kang pinag-basehan?


... walang kinalaman ang paniniwala,

... na iyong kinamulatan at kinalakihan?




... sang-ayon nga ako, brod,

... may pinagmulan / pinag-simulan ang lahat,


... ang kaibahan lang,

... Siyensiya ang basehan ko,


... ang sa iyo,

... ano na nga uli ang basehan mo brod?




... "hindi ko tiyak", brod,

... at buong karangalan kong sinasabi iyan,


... "hindi ko tiyak",


... maging ang Siyensiya,

... "hindi rin tiyak",

... ang buong detalye ukol sa,

... kung saan ba nagmula ang lahat,


... pero eto ang natitiyak ng Siyensiya:

"natural ang cause,

natural ang effect"

cge ipaliwanag mo kung anu ang pinag mulan ng lahat? ng mundo? kasi diba bago yung laman e xempre lalagyan muna ang ipaliwanag mo.. panu mo nalaman na totoo yung pinagmulan ng mundo ay galing dun sa sumabog na anu nga yun?

nandun ka ba? sino nagsabi nun?

na galing dun? buhay ba sila nung sumabog un? malamang patay sumabog ehh..

san naman nagmula ang tao? sa kawayan? natural eh..

natural cause and effect? maxadong limited.. kasi kaalaman lang ng tao.. kaya nga nasabi
mo hindi mo tiyak ang pinag mulan sa science.. kac nga may limit ang tao.. kac mayrong Creator!
at yun ay si Allah