I want to learn java programming

[silversaint915]

MGA KA SYMB. MAY GUSTO PO SANA AKONG MA-ACOMPLISH THIS YEAR... GUSTO KO PO SANANG MATUTUNAN ANG "JAVA PROGRAMMING" SINCE ITO PO ANG MOST WIDELY-USED NA PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE NGAYON... NAGSIMULA NA DIN PO AKONG MAG-RESEARCH ABOUT JAVA... KASO MADAMI PANG MGA TERMINOLOGIES NA HINDI MASYADONG MAGETS HEHEHE (UNTIL NOW ININTINDI KO PA, MALAWAK PO KASI TALAGA ANG PROGRAMMING . MAY BACKGROUND NA PO AKO SA PROGRAMMING KASO VISUAL BASIC 6.0 PALANG PO ANG ALAM KO.. SO GUSTO KO PO SANANG MADAGDAGAN ANG LANGUAGE NA ALAM KO... AT NAPAKA INTERESTING PO NG JAVA PARA SA AKIN ...

SAAN PO BA AKO PWEDENG MAG-START?
ANO PO ANG MGA NA KAILANGAN KONG SOFTWARE/INSTALLER ?
ANY DATABASE NA PWEDE KONG GAMINTIN?
ANY REFERENCE NA PWEDE AKONG MATUTO? LIKE (SAMPLE PROGRAMS, TUTORIALS, FORUM THREAD, ETC.)

GUSTO KO DIN MATUTUNANG MAGPROGRAM NG JAVA USING "NETBEANS" ..

SANA PO MATULUNGAN NYO PO AKO NA MATUTUNAN TO... ISHE-SHARE KO DIN PO SA IBA ANG MGA MATUTUTUNAN KO MULA SA INYO... AT PWEDE RING GAMINTIN ANG THREAD NA TO NG MGA IBANG GUSTONG MATUTO NG JAVA... (BASTO PO ALL ABOUT JAVA LANG AH) ..

MARAMING SALAMAT PO SA MAKAKATULONG !!!

 

[jfmark]

up natin to

 

[ACTabs]

Hi silversaint915,

First and foremost I would like you to understand that Java comes in many runtime variations (JavaSE, JavaFX, JavaEE).

So your question might fall on "Which Java runtime should you learn first?"
Of course, you should start digging on the JavaSE since the core stuffs are in it. Then later on you may want to extend your capability by learning the JavaFX to create a more sophisticated UI and RIA (Rich Internet Applications). Don't worry JavaFX is way easy, as long as you have a decent understanding on the JavaSE runtime.
And then later on you must (It is commonly used within the IT industry for enterprise development) learn the JavaEE for enterprise development. And for goodness sake don't even dare to learn JavaEE first, coz it's a far more complex. You must have a decent understanding on JavaSE to befriend with JavaEE.

So back to your questions:

>> "SAAN PO BA AKO PWEDENG MAG-START?"
>> "ANO PO ANG MGA NA KAILANGAN KONG SOFTWARE/INSTALLER ?"
>> "ANY DATABASE NA PWEDE KONG GAMINTIN?"
>> "ANY REFERENCE NA PWEDE AKONG MATUTO? LIKE (SAMPLE PROGRAMS, TUTORIALS, FORUM THREAD, ETC.)"
>> "GUSTO KO DIN MATUTUNANG MAGPROGRAM NG JAVA USING "NETBEANS""

Buy or download a Book/eBook! in order to have a grasp in Java!
I personally recommend this ebook: Java How to Program (Early Objects)

Take note that when finding a learning material for java you should consider it's Java Version!




Goodluck Pal,
ACTabs

 

[CodingSource]

Magbasa ka ng libro.

 

[JajaDina]

Mag android ka iho

 

[geobot]

reply

Try this YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFE2CE09D83EE3E28

 

[jfmjason]

Re: reply

kain ka ng java rice para pampalakas joke hahaha


btw.. itong librong to "HEAD FIRST JAVA" ang mare-recommend ko sayo.. good for beginners with OOP approach.. di nakaka antok kasi para syang comic books at

me exercises pa

 

[geobot]

Reply

kain ka ng java rice para pampalakas joke hahaha


btw.. itong librong to "HEAD FIRST JAVA" ang mare-recommend ko sayo.. good for beginners with OOP approach.. di nakaka antok kasi para syang comic books at

me exercises pa

eto ba un? : Head First Java 2nd Edition: http://www.mediafire.com/?pbumbtqci9xi7u6

 

[ACTabs]

Re: Reply

kain ka ng java rice para pampalakas joke hahaha


btw.. itong librong to "HEAD FIRST JAVA" ang mare-recommend ko sayo.. good for beginners with OOP approach.. di nakaka antok kasi para syang comic books at

me exercises pa

eto ba un? : Head First Java 2nd Edition: http://www.mediafire.com/?pbumbtqci9xi7u6

I say big NO to that eBook!

Why? Simply because that eBook focuses on Java 5.0, Just so you know we're on a Java 8 now.

 

[celinelois]

Re: Reply

I say big NO to that eBook!

Why? Simply because that eBook focuses on Java 5.0, Just so you know we're on a Java 8 now.

any suggestions po ba ng Book/eBook na medyo malapit sa Java v8?

 

[muthym]

MGA KA SYMB. MAY GUSTO PO SANA AKONG MA-ACOMPLISH THIS YEAR... GUSTO KO PO SANANG MATUTUNAN ANG "JAVA PROGRAMMING" SINCE ITO PO ANG MOST WIDELY-USED NA PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE NGAYON... NAGSIMULA NA DIN PO AKONG MAG-RESEARCH ABOUT JAVA... KASO MADAMI PANG MGA TERMINOLOGIES NA HINDI MASYADONG MAGETS HEHEHE (UNTIL NOW ININTINDI KO PA, MALAWAK PO KASI TALAGA ANG PROGRAMMING . MAY BACKGROUND NA PO AKO SA PROGRAMMING KASO VISUAL BASIC 6.0 PALANG PO ANG ALAM KO.. SO GUSTO KO PO SANANG MADAGDAGAN ANG LANGUAGE NA ALAM KO... AT NAPAKA INTERESTING PO NG JAVA PARA SA AKIN ...

SAAN PO BA AKO PWEDENG MAG-START?
ANO PO ANG MGA NA KAILANGAN KONG SOFTWARE/INSTALLER ?
ANY DATABASE NA PWEDE KONG GAMINTIN?
ANY REFERENCE NA PWEDE AKONG MATUTO? LIKE (SAMPLE PROGRAMS, TUTORIALS, FORUM THREAD, ETC.)

GUSTO KO DIN MATUTUNANG MAGPROGRAM NG JAVA USING "NETBEANS" ..

SANA PO MATULUNGAN NYO PO AKO NA MATUTUNAN TO... ISHE-SHARE KO DIN PO SA IBA ANG MGA MATUTUTUNAN KO MULA SA INYO... AT PWEDE RING GAMINTIN ANG THREAD NA TO NG MGA IBANG GUSTONG MATUTO NG JAVA... (BASTO PO ALL ABOUT JAVA LANG AH) ..

MARAMING SALAMAT PO SA MAKAKATULONG !!!

Take it easy. Baka sa dami ng gusto mong gawin sa Java ay hindi mo na alam kung saaan ka magsisimula. Sa nakikita ko, dalawa lang pwede mong papuntahan sa pagaaral mo ng Java. Paggawa ng desktop apps at paggawa ng mobile apps. Kung may background ka na sa programming, mas madaling mag-start. Paano ka ba natuto sa programming lalo sa paggamit ng Visual Basic? I-apply mo lang din sa Java. Hahanapin mo lang ang katumbas ng sa VB sa Java. Wag ka rin mambroblema sa pag-gather ng materials esp. books/ebooks. I suggest, start with tutorials. Marami dito sa Internet. IMO, it doesn't matter kung anong versions ng Java ang magagamit mo kung pag-aaralan mo lang naman muna ang basics. Halimbawa... kapag nag-aaral ako ng isang bagong programming language, ito ang mga kino-consider ko:

* Basic Structure by displaying first a text (e.g. Hello World!)
* Variables and Data Types
* Operators ( Arithmetic, Relational, Logical)
* Iterations/Looping Statements (e.g. for, while)
* Conditional Statements (if, select/switch)
* Procedures/Functions
* Built-in Functions (e.g. Math, String)

Ang mga nabanggit ko ay hindi nawawala sa isang programming language. Yung terms naman na sinasabi mo, ang dapat mo lang naman problemahin at i-focus ay yung sa OOP (object oriented programming) dahil ang Java ay isang OOP language, yun lang kung gusto mo mag-OOP kapag nag-code ka na. Hindi mo kelangang kabisaduhin ang mga terms bagkus learn by examples at maiintindihan mo ang konsepto ng OOP. Pero I suggest, wag ka muna tatalon sa OOP. Gamayin mo muna ang Java by structured programming tulad ng ginagawa mo sa VB.

Kapag nagamay mo na ang basics, saka mo na isunod ang GUI programming. Tanungin mo muna ang ang sarili mo kung gusto mo gumamit ng isang IDE o iko-code mo. Kung gusto mo ng drag n' drop paggawa ng GUI, Netbeans pwede tulad ng nabaggit mo. Pero kung gusto mo ng challenge, magmanu-mano ka Java Swing is still available kaya pwede mong pag-praktisan, aside from JavaFX. After GUI, pwede mo na isunod ang database. Sa ibang bansa ang hinahanap nila ay Oracle Database na mismo. Sa case ko as hobbyist, ang ginagamit ko.... sqlite-jdbc, sqlite4java at SQLJet.

Para sa iyong pag-aaral ng Java, sa pag-run ng program dito, dalawa ang tatandaan mo at kakailanganin mo. Isang Compiler at isang Interpreter. Ang JAVAC para ma-compile ang code (with .java extension name) into a bytecode (with .class extension name) na iinterpret naman ng JAVA. Para ma-interpret ang java programs ay kakailanganin mo ng JRE (Java Runtime Environment)-isang virtual machine. Para ma-compile naman, kakailanganin mo ng JDK/SDK (java development kit). Lahat ng mga ito ay mada-download mo sa Oracle website na dating Sun Microsystems. Optional kung gagamit ka ng IDE (e.g. Netbeans, Eclipse) May mga implementations din ang mga ito. Sa case ko, ang ginagamit ko ay Dr. Java na may built-in compiler na at lightweight ang size.

In addition, ALWAYS REMEMBER, nandiyan lang GOOGLE para sa pag-aaral mo ng Java. Don't stop coding. Sa ganitong paraan ako natuto sa halip na libro.

GoodLuck!

 

[ACTabs]

any suggestions po ba ng Book/eBook na medyo malapit sa Java v8?

Google: Java How to Program (Early Objects) 10e

it doesn't matter kung anong versions ng Java ang magagamit mo kung pag-aaralan mo lang naman muna ang basics.

You're wrong dude, Please do your research why is it important to have an updated Java version especially for developers (regardless if you're starter or not)

at i-focus ay yung sa OOP (object oriented programming) dahil ang Java ay isang OOP language

Nah, Java is not a pure OOP, it is a Hybrid programming language. OOP is not everything in java, especially in java 8 as it introduce the functional programming through lambda expressions.

 

[muthym]

...
You're wrong dude, Please do your research why is it important to have an updated Java version especially for developers (regardless if you're starter or not)

Do you understand Tagalog/Filipino? I said, "it doesn't matter kung anong versions ng Java ang magagamit mo kung pag-aaralan mo lang naman muna ang basics.", in English (if I'm going to translate)... "If you will just study the basics, versions of Java doesn't matter." And I listed down those necessary topics (i.e. basic structure down to built-in functions) that he could study/review. Did Oracle change the syntax of these? After these things he could move to GUI and/or to Database as I have mentioned. Anyway, if he will use an IDE, it will require or the compiler is already bundled or it may ask for JRE if it's not installed.

Can you dictate hobbyists what to use? educators? maybe developers (but not all) because they are obliged or forced by their clients or employers? right? Oracle's Java is NOT alone (even their virtual machine i.e JRE). You have to make a research on this. As a hobbyist, I love lightweight programs and I hate bloated software. I love FOSS as well. That's why I'm using Dr.Java, which, IMO, fits my needs as hobbyist and also help others by solving their problems in this IDE. Sometimes, I use Jikes (an old compiler by IBM - the good thing is, it's open-source now) in my Linux Distro. I know, I'm not alone on this.

Nah, Java is not a pure OOP, it is a Hybrid programming language. OOP is not everything in java, especially in java 8 as it introduce the functional programming through lambda expressions.

Again, I said... "Yung terms naman na sinasabi mo, ang dapat mo lang naman problemahin at i-focus ay yung sa OOP (object oriented programming) dahil ang Java ay isang OOP language, yun lang kung gusto mo mag-OOP kapag nag-code ka na. " If he has problems when it comes to Java terms, it should be the OOP concept. I will also disagree if Java is only an OOP language. It supports structured programming, right? I learned to program in Java in this type of programming not in OOP. Java was popularly known as OOP. And still popularly known as OOP language nowadays. And it is its trademark. And it is widely used as a language for the OOP subject of the colleges and universities especially here in the Philippines. When was Java 8 introduced/implemented? Who cares if java 8 introduces the functional programming? maybe developers but not all because they are obliged or forced by their clients or employers? right? As educator, students will not embrace this kind of programming. Unless if it is their subject or part of their subject. Check or make a research if most developers or coders code in functional programming.

In programming, logic heavily applies most especially in functional programming.

When I say, "Ako ay isang educator o guro"... it does not necessarily mean that I'm only an educator or teacher because I'm also a programmer. This same thing applies in "Java ay isang OOP language".

Am I wrong dude?

 

[CodingSource]

Re: Reply

any suggestions po ba ng Book/eBook na medyo malapit sa Java v8?

Hanapin mo na lang Google.

- - - Updated - - -

Do you understand Tagalog/Filipino? I said, "it doesn't matter kung anong versions ng Java ang magagamit mo kung pag-aaralan mo lang naman muna ang basics.", in English (if I'm going to translate)... "If you will just study the basics, versions of Java doesn't matter." And I listed down those necessary topics (i.e. basic structure down to built-in functions) that he could study/review. Did Oracle change the syntax of these? After these things he could move to GUI and/or to Database as I have mentioned. Anyway, if he will use an IDE, it will require or the compiler is already bundled or it may ask for JRE if it's not installed.

Can you dictate hobbyists what to use? educators? maybe developers (but not all) because they are obliged or forced by their clients or employers? right? Oracle's Java is NOT alone (even their virtual machine i.e JRE). You have to make a research on this. As a hobbyist, I love lightweight programs and I hate bloated software. I love FOSS as well. That's why I'm using Dr.Java, which, IMO, fits my needs as hobbyist and also help others by solving their problems in this IDE. Sometimes, I use Jikes (an old compiler by IBM - the good thing is, it's open-source now) in my Linux Distro. I know, I'm not alone on this.



Again, I said... "Yung terms naman na sinasabi mo, ang dapat mo lang naman problemahin at i-focus ay yung sa OOP (object oriented programming) dahil ang Java ay isang OOP language, yun lang kung gusto mo mag-OOP kapag nag-code ka na. " If he has problems when it comes to Java terms, it should be the OOP concept. I will also disagree if Java is only an OOP language. It supports structured programming, right? I learned to program in Java in this type of programming not in OOP. Java was popularly known as OOP. And still popularly known as OOP language nowadays. And it is its trademark. And it is widely used as a language for the OOP subject of the colleges and universities especially here in the Philippines. When was Java 8 introduced/implemented? Who cares if java 8 introduces the functional programming? maybe developers but not all because they are obliged or forced by their clients or employers? right? As educator, students will not embrace this kind of programming. Unless if it is their subject or part of their subject. Check or make a research if most developers or coders code in functional programming.

In programming, logic heavily applies most especially in functional programming.

When I say, "Ako ay isang educator o guro"... it does not necessarily mean that I'm only an educator or teacher because I'm also a programmer. This same thing applies in "Java ay isang OOP language".

Am I wrong dude?

Enginglishan ka na Pare ACTabs. At saka matalino yan kasi he build his own pl. Wala namang kuwenta pag magtalo pa kayo kasi nag-rerekumenda naman kayo kung ano dapat ang uunahin ni ts diba? Mag-PM na lang kayo sa isa't-isa para hindi dumating ang pulis dito.

 

[ACTabs]

Did Oracle change the syntax of these? After these things he could move to GUI and/or to Database as I have mentioned.

Once again, I will ask you to do your research about the changes included in the Java 8 released.

Do you understand Tagalog/Filipino? I said, "it doesn't matter kung anong versions ng Java ang magagamit mo kung pag-aaralan mo lang naman muna ang basics.", in English (if I'm going to translate)... "If you will just study the basics, versions of Java doesn't matter." And I listed down those necessary topics (i.e. basic structure down to built-in functions) that he could study/review. Did Oracle change the syntax of these? After these things he could move to GUI and/or to Database as I have mentioned.

I think there's a problem the way you comprehend, coz I think, I made a clear sentiment on my post.
Please re-read and try to comprehend it properly.

You're wrong dude, Please do your research why is it important to have an updated Java version especially for developers (regardless if you're starter or not)

Who cares if java 8 introduces the functional programming? maybe developers but not all because they are obliged or forced by their clients or employers? right? As educator, students will not embrace this kind of programming.

Check or make a research if most developers or coders code in functional programming.

WTF?! Hahahaha Dude, don't you even know how lambda expressions became a game changer for java? I used Java programming language for a living. And our team already implementing lambda expressions on a live project.

Totally laughing my ass off to your post dude.

- - - Updated - - -

Hanapin mo na lang Google.

- - - Updated - - -



Enginglishan ka na Pare ACTabs. At saka matalino yan kasi he build his own pl. Wala namang kuwenta pag magtalo pa kayo kasi nag-rerekumenda naman kayo kung ano dapat ang uunahin ni ts diba? Mag-PM na lang kayo sa isa't-isa para hindi dumating ang pulis dito.

What? We're having a healthy argument about a particular programming language, so I don't think that we will have any violations.

 

[muthym]

Once again, I will ask you to do your research about the changes included in the Java 8 released.



I think there's a problem the way you comprehend, coz I think, I made a clear sentiment on my post.
Please re-read and try to comprehend it properly.





WTF?! Hahahaha Dude, don't you even know how lambda expressions became a game changer for java? I used Java programming language for a living. And our team already implementing lambda expressions on a live project.

Totally laughing my ass off to your post dude.

Be careful with your BIG mouth! I don't know if you're reading or not. You're one in a million. Not all readers here in Symbianize are developers. Not all programmers here are game programmers. Not all Java programmers here are using Java 8. And you have to consider that. Most especially, most members here as well as readers are Filipinos. Despite that you understand Tagalog, we still have moral values. You're only laughing at yourself. It's a shame if you're a Filipino with that kind of attitude.

By the way, don't ever use DUDE. Iba ang dating sa aming mga Filipino.

@moderators

I suggest, though this is a netiquette, please. include in your forum rules the culture consideration here in this forum. Pls. emphasize and state it clearly. Thank you.

 

[ACTabs]

Be careful with your BIG mouth! I don't know if you're reading or not. You're one in a million. Not all readers here in Symbianize are developers. Not all programmers here are game programmers. Not all Java programmers here are using Java 8. And you have to consider that. Most especially, most members here as well as readers are Filipinos. Despite that you understand Tagalog, we still have moral values. You're only laughing at yourself. It's a shame if you're a Filipino with that kind of attitude.

By the way, don't ever use DUDE. Iba ang dating sa amin.

Nah, this post has no relevance at all.


----


>> "Not all programmers here are game programmers."

I said "Game changer" not "Game Programmers".


If I offended you at some point of our discussion then, please pardon me. Nevertheless, don't you dare to question my moral value. If you don't want to talk with relevance to the topic, then at least try not to attack me personally it only shows who's the educated here.

- - - Updated - - -

@TS

Please pardon for giving you an irrelevant post (post #17). This will by my last post if there's nothing more to argue lol.

 

[muthym]

@ACTabs

This is beyond this thread, if you're challenging me for your comprehension and sentiment. I will go up with your level just to prove that I have comprehension and sentiment too like yours. We will speak in one language. It's unfair if you're just the one who is laughing.

 

[jfmjason]

Re: Reply

eto ba un? : Head First Java 2nd Edition: http://www.mediafire.com/?pbumbtqci9xi7u6

maraming edition yan pero mas ok ata yong latest.. kung wala kang makuha .. yan na lang



me nag aaway pala sa post na to hehehe

- - - Updated - - -

I say big NO to that eBook!

Why? Simply because that eBook focuses on Java 5.0, Just so you know we're on a Java 8 now.

me latest edition din sa Head first java. siguro maganda pag basic muna sya mag start para di sya mahirapan.
Habang natututo ka sa book na yan nag iinjoy karin..

 

[GRAFFITI Pride]

Re: Reply

kapag na palabas mo ang word na "Hello World!!!" gamit ang sytax ng java...

Yun na noob na master mo na cxa hahahha