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if your in a debate, God does not exist side, whats ur idea to defend?

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Ang daling husgahan ng isang historical event na masama batay sa death toll pero ang alamin ninyo ay kung anong mangyayari kung hindi nagkaroon ng Crusades. Malamang Muslim na ang buong mundo ngaun kasama na kau at kamatayan ang kaparusahan kapag tumiwalag kau sa Islam. Kinailangan ang Crusades dahil un lang ang paraan para pigilan ang paglaganap ng Islam at pananakop ng mga Muslim sa Europe.

Tungkol sa Galileo affar, maraming beses nang na-cover un dito. Hindi na-house arrest si Galileo dahil sa sinabi niyang bilog ang mundo kundi dahil sa pagtuturo niya na araw ang nasa gitna ng solar system nang wala pang matibay na ebidensya.
 
@ szhigen huwag mo pansinin yung iba dito mga bayarang Troll yan , , ,yan ang trabaho nila , , , pustahan may mag re-react ! :lol:
 
HAHAHA!
Kaya pla...
Di ka pla makaintindi... :rofl:

Hahaha pansinin mo nga title ng thread ayan oh "if blah blah blah" ayun "kunyari" daw nasa side ka nun. Inangkin mo na talaga.
Sino hindi makaintindi kaya?
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Yes, read all about it that's why I'm talking about it. Well, how about you?

Eto po ang topic...
if your in a debate, God does not exist side, whats ur idea to defend?
Please read it again...

"If your in a debate, God does not exist side" - You Silly!!! It clearly means, this topic is just for us who doesn't believe that your GOD exists.
I'm not saying that you don't have a right to post here but, think again.

Tapos andaming nagpopost all about that bass, este... All about their faiths...
We don't care!!!
This topic doesn't have the option for you to question our beliefs...


Kung masaya ka kung ano meron ka, SUPURTAHAN TA KA!!!

Isama ko lang para sa reference mo.
 
@ szhigen huwag mo pansinin yung iba dito mga bayarang Troll yan , , ,yan ang trabaho nila , , , pustahan may mag re-react ! :lol:

Tama!!!
Hahaha!
Nakakahawa ang pagkasarado ng utak ng mga tao.
Di marunong mag isip outside the box.

Human Frailty is an inborn characteristic, and it shows.
Mga trolls kayo, dati akong instrumentalist at singer sa isang choir. World Youth day 1995, nakalapit at nahalikan ko ang kamay ni Pope John Paul II.
Walang freedom sa religion, pansinin nyo. May utak tayo para humusga ng mali ata tama, gamitin.
Di lahat ng ngsisismba mabait at banal.
 
Sarado ang utak ng tao, theist o atheist man. May mga theist na pipiliing magbulagbulagan na lang sa corruption sa kanilang religion gaya ng mga INC at Muslim. At merong mga atheist na ipipilit at ipipilit pa ring masama ang Crusades at Inquisition kahit un ang pinakamakatarungang sistema nung Middle Ages.
 
Baka dahil meron namatay? Maski nga sakuna rereklamo pa rin dahil namatay. Paano kung walang namatay sasabihin mo ba dahil magaling?

Ano ngayon naman kung nahalikan mo pa kamay ni pope? At singer pa sa wyd? Does it means angat ka sa amin?

Meron pong freedom sa religion. Ang freedom dun eh kung susunod ka o hindi. Your choice.

HIndi rin po talaga lahat ng nagsisimba mabait at banal. Kaya rin po sila nagsisimba para makarinig ng aral at umalala sa Dyos at humingi ng tawad sa mga kasalanan. Ang simbahan po hindi lang para sa mga banal. Para rin po lalo yan sa mga makasalanan.
 
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I am thinking out of the Box...

Kaya nga I was enlightened from being catholic, That make sense... Pero parang ang hirap isipin Letting go of the belief that there is a God??? Ano kaya pumasok sa isip ng mga taong ito??? Yun nga yung purpose siguro ng thread na ito... Pero Wala pa rin akong nakitang concrete answer or idea(s) to defend ng mga pumapanig sa side na yan...
 
This is just a thread, every opinion counts. Just respect each other's belief :buddy:
 
I am thinking out of the Box...

Kaya nga I was enlightened from being catholic, That make sense... Pero parang ang hirap isipin Letting go of the belief that there is a God??? Ano kaya pumasok sa isip ng mga taong ito??? Yun nga yung purpose siguro ng thread na ito... Pero Wala pa rin akong nakitang concrete answer or idea(s) to defend ng mga pumapanig sa side na yan...

Concrete answer or idea?

Yeah! I believe and finally agree with you pero, iba iba tayo ng dinaanan kaya ganun siguro.
Maniwala kang sa Oratory pa ako natutulog nuon since iniwan ko ang old life ko? Ganyan ako kadevoted as a charismatic dati.
Humility is thought through every religion but, may nakikita ka bang inaapply yan?
Ako wala pa, kasi lahat ng makaharap ko, pag-usapan eh relihiyon na, may nagpapatalo ba?
People would even kill for their religion. Now, where's the humility?
 
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Concrete answer or idea?

Yeah! I believe and finally agree with you pero, iba iba tayo ng dinaanan kaya ganun siguro.
Maniwala kang sa Oratory pa ako natutulog nuon since iniwan ko ang old life ko? Ganyan ako kadevoted as a charismatic dati.
Humility is thought through every religion but, may nakikita ka bang inaapply yan?
Ako wala pa, kasi lahat ng makaharap ko, pag-usapan eh relihiyon na, may nagpapatalo ba?
People would even kill for their religion. Now, where's the humility?

Well It is how you define humility, Iba na yun pag papatay ka na para lang sa religion.. Hindi masama na ipagtanggol mo ang pananampalataya mo up to the extend na buhay mo ang kapalit pero hindi yung ikaw ang papatay...

Like as I've said before ang tunay na Christiano hindi pumapatay, hindi nangaapi sila ang naaagrabyado, pinapatay, inaapi thats a fact...

Natural lang sa tao ang to stand firm to something you believe to be right, but in the humble way as possible dun mo maipapakita na you apply humility sa buhay mo, Well Atheist din naman papatalo ba naman kayo pag dating sa paniniwala ninyo? Pero ang tanong how do some of your fellow atheists defend their idea(s), back read ka lang sa mga THREAD dito makikita mo siguro at masasabi mo if humble sila or hambog... Gusto mo ng sample??? Wait hanapin ko yung isang malupet na reply ng isang atheist dito sa forum sa kausap niyang theist sabihin mo sa akin if kung may humility kang makikita dun... Ano kaya ang naitulong sa kanya ng pagiging atheist niya in applying humility.. ;)

Pero piece of advice don't stop looking for that person... Who applies humility kahit na dinidefend niya at ayaw niyang patalo sa iba pag dating sa paniniwala niya... Makakakita ka rin for sure... ;)
 
That's impossible na wala ka makitang taong meron ni isa na humility. Sa psychology parang meron tawag dyan.

Sa religion meron tawag dyan. Mahirap talagang usapin ang belief or tawagin rin nating ideology almost same lang yan. Dahil you will gonna stand firm on your belief.


Iba ang humility sa belief. Kung kukunsulta tayo sa meaning ng ibang talasalitaan. If you don't find person without humility then lahat tayo dito mayayabang. Or maybe ikaw lang ang bukod tanging hindi mayabang.
 
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That's impossible na wala ka makitang taong meron ni isa na humility. Sa psychology parang meron tawag dyan.

Sa religion meron tawag dyan. Mahirap talagang usapin ang belief or tawagin rin nating ideology almost same lang yan. Dahil you will gonna stand firm on your belief.


Iba ang humility sa belief. Kung kukunsulta tayo sa meaning ng ibang talasalitaan. If you don't find person without humility then lahat tayo dito mayayabang. Or maybe ikaw lang ang bukod tanging hindi mayabang.

Belief pa rin ang tawag sa psychology. Either maniwala ka sa diyos o hindi ay mananatili pa ring belief.
 
Iba naman yata intindi mo sir.

Ang sinasabi ko lang, si sir nating isa dito, wala daw matagpuang taong may humility.
 
Ano nga ba cause ng pagkawala ng humility??? Dahil ba sa paninindigan niya sa paniniwala niya??? ;)
 
first off GOD DOES EXIST whether you believe it or not. it's a FACT.

it's almost too funny when a christian is proving the existence of God through the bible and then a person will say that it's not a proof. (you want evidence? here's the bible....what? it's not valid? so how about the testimonies of people? what? it's not also valid? lols...every evidence must be invalid then)

it is typically harder to prove the inexistence of God (of course, give me an evidence that God does not exist! just to be fair), kaya ka nga naggawa ng thread dahil alam mo, firsthand, ung hirap to disprove the existence of God e..
even the greatest atheists resort to the bible just to disprove the existence of God...well that's really funny. How ironic.

but for the sake of your question, i will give some ideas that can stir up the debate: but remember that im a christian...im on God's side...ganun din ung makakadebate mo kung sakali...you can't defeat God.

first off:
- adam and eve reproduction...incest? (well, that's conferring to the bible..like ive aid earlier, kung atheist ka, you should not use the bible as reference...but it's a low blow..it doesn't disproved nor proved the existence of God, side-tracking ba. hahaha)
- the killing spree of some bible heroes. david etc (conferring again, more side tracking..ipagpray mo na lang na mahina kadebate mo..Kanino ka magppray? hahaha)
- how old is the earth? billions? millions? thousands? (side-tracking ulit to...nilalayo mo ung theme sa "GOD"...but you can stand a chance kung maibabato mo to ng ayos)
- the calamities (it's difficult kasi parang iadmit mo na rin na may Diyos, Diyos na nagbibigay ng calamities)
- possible perversion of the bible (well, that's definitely cheating...ndi na debate un, naninira ka na lang kapag ganun)


you have to admit na mahirap ung side mo. debate should be stating your claim then show evidence..the other side should do the same. pero ang nangyayari e ipprove nya na may Diyos, tapus titirahin mo sya without showing your own evidence...indi na debate un. paninira na yun...kapag may nakakausap akong atheist, i let them prove their claim...sila ang maunang magsalita para maiwasan ung boomerang strategy.

then again...indi kelangan ng Diyos ung approval mo para mag exist Sya...dahil ndi ka pa isinisilang e nandun na Sya. He is the alpha and omega.
there's no use trying to beat the unbeatable God.
 
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first off GOD DOES EXIST whether you believe it or not. it's a FACT.

it's almost too funny when a christian is proving the existence of God through the bible and then a person will say that it's not a proof. (you want evidence? here's the bible....what? it's not valid? so how about the testimonies of people? what? it's not also valid? lols...every evidence must be invalid then)

it is typically harder to prove the inexistence of God (of course, give me an evidence that God does not exist! just to be fair), kaya ka nga naggawa ng thread dahil alam mo, firsthand, ung hirap to disprove the existence of God e..
even the greatest atheists resort to the bible just to disprove the existence of God...well that's really funny. How ironic.

but for the sake of your question, i will give some ideas that can stir up the debate: but remember that im a christian...im on God's side...ganun din ung makakadebate mo kung sakali...you can't defeat God.

first off:
- adam and eve reproduction...incest? (well, that's conferring to the bible..like ive aid earlier, kung atheist ka, you should not use the bible as reference...but it's a low blow..it doesn't disproved nor proved the existence of God, side-tracking ba. hahaha)
- the killing spree of some bible heroes. david etc (conferring again, more side tracking..ipagpray mo na lang na mahina kadebate mo..Kanino ka magppray? hahaha)
- how old is the earth? billions? millions? thousands? (side-tracking ulit to...nilalayo mo ung theme sa "GOD"...but you can stand a chance kung maibabato mo to ng ayos)
- the calamities (it's difficult kasi parang iadmit mo na rin na may Diyos, Diyos na nagbibigay ng calamities)
- possible perversion of the bible (well, that's definitely cheating...ndi na debate un, naninira ka na lang kapag ganun)


you have to admit na mahirap ung side mo. debate should be stating your claim then show evidence..the other side should do the same. pero ang nangyayari e ipprove nya na may Diyos, tapus titirahin mo sya without showing your own evidence...indi na debate un. paninira na yun...kapag may nakakausap akong atheist, i let them prove their claim...sila ang maunang magsalita para maiwasan ung boomerang strategy.

then again...indi kelangan ng Diyos ung approval mo para mag exist Sya...dahil ndi ka pa isinisilang e nandun na Sya. He is the alpha and omega.
there's no use trying to beat the unbeatable God.

The question is: How do you convince them?

The definition of Atheist is raw information.

Not of all them are so called "Atheist" because they are SKEPTIC.
 
Hello, first of all, im not atheist and i respect whats your belief
Lets just have some ideas
Just imagine a scenario and what should be your proof to protect your side
And i know this is not a simple topic but please be professional and respect.

GOD's not DEAD he's surely alive!!! he is living on my inside roaring like a lion!! and im proud of it...! :ranting:
 
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