ILLEGAL PO BA YUNG MALAKAS NA WI-FI Hotspots?

[SolidState]

Ang power signal ng wifi ay may sinusunod na limit para huwag makapagdulot ng noise sa ibang katulad ng devices.
Kung hindi mo susundin ito ay pwedi kang kasuhan ayon sa e commerce law ng Pilipinas kung may maghahabla sa iyo.

 

[natzukia]

Ang power signal ng wifi ay may sinusunod na limit para huwag makapagdulot ng noise sa ibang katulad ng devices.
Kung hindi mo susundin ito ay pwedi kang kasuhan ayon sa e commerce law ng Pilipinas kung may maghahabla sa iyo.

Ilang dBi ng Wi-Fi? yung makaka pag dulot ka ng noise?

Never ko pa kasi yan na in-counter




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[madeinchina]

ask ko lang sir, Hawak pa ba ng Meralco yung 2.4 GHz - sabi kasi nila Na una raw kasi yung meralco kumuha ng 2.4GHz na License sa NTC. pero crowded na talaga yung 2.4 GHz. Malay ninyo iba na yung kinuha na Frequency?

Hawak parin nila ang 2.4ghz since 1995 until today (probably in future).
Kung taga NCR ka, ingat nalang also in Bulacan, Cavite, selected areas in Nueva Ecija. Basta kung nasaan ang meralco, hawak nila ang 2.4ghz.
Ang dali pa naman ma detect ng mga WiFi rental na yan, halos lahat ng wifi rental na legal na alam ko is operated inside premises (eg, Cofee Shops, Malls, Airport) but most of I know that operates in open public (eg squatters area, residential area) ay hinuhuli ng NTC.

Lahat naman kasi ng wifi rental meron portal page with their business info there (eg, saan pwede makakuha/makabili ng codes at paano makabili)

Take this a bitter pill na lang. Pag hindi ka nahuli, swerte mo, pag nahuli ka GG na business mo.

FYI: License to NTC last for about 50 years, and can be renewed if they want.

 

[natzukia]

Hawak parin nila ang 2.4ghz since 1995 until today (probably in future).
Kung taga NCR ka, ingat nalang also in Bulacan, Cavite, selected areas in Nueva Ecija. Basta kung nasaan ang meralco, hawak nila ang 2.4ghz.
Ang dali pa naman ma detect ng mga WiFi rental na yan, halos lahat ng wifi rental na legal na alam ko is operated inside premises (eg, Cofee Shops, Malls, Airport) but most of I know that operates in open public (eg squatters area, residential area) ay hinuhuli ng NTC.

Lahat naman kasi ng wifi rental meron portal page with their business info there (eg, saan pwede makakuha/makabili ng codes at paano makabili)

Take this a bitter pill na lang. Pag hindi ka nahuli, swerte mo, pag nahuli ka GG na business mo.

FYI: License to NTC last for about 50 years, and can be renewed if they want.

Ang area ko sir is Pasig, Hawak pa ba ng meralco yung 2.4Ghz

Paano naman yung Personal Use lang naman at Walang portal page?

Ask ko lang din sa mga residentials area ba yung small business piso net? May Business permit ba din nun? Ang laki ng Tax?

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Paano naman yun mga Radio Handset, Yung madalas Makikita sa mga FX? need ba din yun ng license?


Sa Area Namin May Nasasagap na Open Wi-Fi is: Pinoy_Telekoms
Bumili din ako sa kanila ng codes 1 hour is 11 pesos, mabilis din naman. Kaso pag nasa loob ka ng bahay, disconnected kana, Need mo pa lumabas ng bahay..

Pero until now Sobrang bagal ng service ng net nila now

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correction ako: 2.4 5.1. 5.4 at may limitation pala . at need rin ng permit

From:

NTC issues new wi-fi rules,
lifts ban on 2.4 GHz-use
Posted:0:58 AM (Manila Time) | Aug. 19, 2003
By Erwin Lemuel G. Oliva
INQ7.net

THE NATIONAL Telecommunications Commission (NTC) has issued regulations governing wireless fidelity (wi-fi) use in the Philippines, effectively lifting the ban on the use of the 2.4-gigahertz frequency band in three areas in the country.

After several jam-packed public hearings, the agency posted the much-awaited memorandum circular on its website. The new NTC circular will become effective 15 days after publication in a newspaper.

Wi-fi is a wireless networking technology that allows users to connect their devices (i.e. laptops, personal digital assistants) to the Internet without the need for wires or cables. Using the 802.11 standard set by IEEE,

wi-fi can link devices to the Internet at short (400-meter radius) or long ranges (up to 15 kilometers).





Prior to this new circular, the NTC prohibited the operation of radio equipment in the 2.4-Ghz radio frequency band in Metro Manila, Central Luzon, and Southern Luzon due to complaints from power utility firm Manila Electric Co., the duly-licensed user of the radio frequency band in those areas.

Meralco has been using the frequency band to operate an in-house system that remotely supervises and controls the electrical system in the three regions.

The new circular allows private entities to set up non-profit wi-fi networks for indoor use but commercial deployment will require a license from the regulatory agency.

The new NTC rules also set the definitions for indoor and outdoor applications for wi-fi equipment.

"Indoor" pertains to equipment operating within a 400-meter radius or within building premises, while "outdoor" refers to equipment intended for use beyond a 400 meter-radius.

The NTC also limited "radiated power" for wi-fi indoor equipment to 100 milliwatts to prevent interference issues.

Accredited dealers and suppliers of wi-fi equipment in the Philippines are also required to register with the NTC before they sell these products in the market, the circular added.

The NTC, in addition, required all users of outdoor wi-fi equipment, whether commercial or not, to secure "appropriate NTC permits and licenses," the circular said.

The agency said that subscribers of commercial wi-fi services offered by telephone firms need not secure licenses and permits.

Entities caught selling of unauthorized indoor or outdoor equipment would be fined at 5,000 pesos per unit, plus forfeiture of the equipment, the NTC said.

The circular also covers other wi-fi standards operating on other radio frequency bands, including the 5.150 to 5.350 Ghz band and the 5.470 to 5.825 Ghz band.







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NTC ibibgay bagong patakaran wi-fi,
lifts ban sa 2.4 GHz-use
Nai-post: 0: 58 AM (Manila Time) | Agosto 19, 2003
By Erwin Lemuel G. Oliva
INQ7.net

PAMBANSANG Telecommunications Commission (NTC) ay inisyu sa mga regulasyong nauukol wireless fidelity (wi-fi) gamitin sa Pilipinas, epektibong pag-aangat ang ban sa paggamit ng mga 2.4-gigahertz frequency band sa tatlong mga lugar sa bansa.

Pagkatapos ng ilang mga oras-nakaimpake pampublikong pagdinig, na nai-post sa ahensya na ang pinakahihintay na memorandum circular sa website nito. Ang bagong NTC circular ay magiging epektibo 15 araw matapos ang paglalathala sa isang pahayagan.

Wi-fi ay isang wireless networking teknolohiya na nagbibigay-daan sa mga gumagamit upang kumonekta sa kanilang mga aparato (ie laptop, personal digital katulong) sa Internet nang hindi nangangailangan ng mga wire o cable. Paggamit ng 802.11 standard set sa pamamagitan ng IEEE,

Wi-fi maaaring link device sa Internet sa maikling (400-meter radius) o pang saklaw (hanggang sa 15 kilometro).




Bago ito bagong circular, ang NTC ipinagbabawal ang operasyon ng kagamitang radyo sa mga 2.4-GHz radio frequency band sa Metro Manila, Central Luzon, at Southern Luzon dahil sa reklamo mula sa kapangyarihan utility firm Manila Electric Co., ang gaya ng nararapat-lisensiyadong user ng ang dalas radio band sa mga lugar.

Ito ay gumagamit ng Meralco ang frequency band upang mapatakbo ang isang in-house na sistema na malayo nangangasiwa at kumokontrol sa electrical system sa tatlong rehiyon.

Pinapayagan ka ng bagong circular pribadong entidad upang i-set up non-profit wi-fi network para sa panloob na paggamit ngunit komersyal deployment ay nangangailangan ng lisensya mula sa mga regulasyon ahensiya.

Ang bagong NTC patakaran ring itakda ang mga kahulugan para sa panloob at panlabas na mga application para sa wi-fi equipment.

"Panloob" ay tumutukoy sa operating kagamitan sa loob ng isang 400-meter radius o sa loob ng nasasakupan ng gusali, habang ang "panlabas" ay tumutukoy sa mga kagamitan nilayon para sa paggamit sa kabila ng isang 400 metrong radius.

Ang NTC limitado din "radiated kapangyarihan" para sa wi-fi indoor kagamitan sa 100 milliwatts upang maiwasan ang mga isyu sa panghihimasok.

Pinaniwalaan dealers at mga supplier ng wi-fi equipment sa Pilipinas ay kinakailangan ding magparehistro sa NTC bago sila magbenta ng mga produkto sa merkado, ang pabilog na naidagdag.

Ang NTC, bilang karagdagan, kinakailangan ang lahat ng mga gumagamit ng mga panlabas na wi-fi equipment, kung komersyal o hindi, sa mga secure na "naaangkop NTC permit at lisensya," sabi ng pabilog.

Ang ahensiya ay sinabi na subscriber ng komersyal na mga serbisyo wi-fi na inaalok ng mga kumpanya ng telepono ay hindi kailangan secure na lisensya at permit.

Mga Entity nahuli na nagbebenta ng mga hindi awtorisadong sa panloob o panlabas na kagamitan ay magmulta sa 5,000 pesos per unit, plus-alis ng pagkakataon ng mga kagamitan, sinabi ng NTC.

Circular ay sumasaklaw din sa iba pang mga pamantayan wi-fi operating sa iba pang mga radio frequency band, kasama na ang mga 5.150-5.350 GHz band at ang 5.470-5.825 GHz band

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Napansin ko parang hindi na stricto. Luzon Area pala affected nito, affected rin 802.11a

^^"Binili" from who? Hindi mo naman pwede ibenta yung frequencies ng Wifi since wala namang nag-mamay-ari nito?

Pambihira talaga dito sa atin! Heheheh.

Pagkakaalam ko, gamit sa SCADA ni Meralco yung ilang freqencies between 2.4~2.5Ghz, pero hindi lahat. So, essentially, parang gusto nilang mag-reserve lang sila ng channel/s?

To be safe, maybe people can consider using 802.11a instead.

binili raw yong 2.4Ghz to 2.5ghz Band ng WIFI to Meralco. ginagamit raw nila yon sa Technical Proposes. Parang Luzon ata Affected nito. pero pag kaka-aalm ko Bayantel has own WIFI Business. walang 3G. so Bawal na sa Luzon Area.

Kung May Permit ka or License to operate, parang wala din kwenta , Halos karamihan ng pinoy mag pa-permit na sa NTC para mapa lakas yung Wi-Fi, Pero depende talaga sa Area

 

[mstsc123]

di bawal yan as long as nasa regulatory frequency list lang itratransmit mo. pag channel 1-11 (wlan = 2.4-2.49ghz ) ok lang siguro. channel 12 frequencies pataas yata bawal pag wala kang license.

for example:

globe = 2.5-2.7ghz
smart = 2.33-2.37ghz
witribe = 2.53-2.59ghz
PAGASA = ?
other government agencies = ?

lets say nagtransmit ang AP mo ng above frequencies sa area mo, magooverlap frequency mo sa coverage nila. pag nadectect na may interference sa area nila itratrace ka at ireklamo ka nyan, saka papasok NTC hahanapan ka ng license. pag wala ka naipakita himas rehas labas mo. yan pagkakaintindi ko

sa pag kakaalam ko sa pag asa ay naka satellite na part sila sa pag transmit ang tinutukoy mo kasi nanakalist ay terrestial microwave

 

[natzukia]

The 2.4GHz is reserved for MERALCO's SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition, communications system that allows it to wirelessly monitor its power distribution outlets and locate faults during power outages).. it is also NTC's fault kasi sila ang nagbigay ng frequency sa MERALCO nung 1993.. umutang pa ata ang MERALCO ng malaki sa world bank para lang gawin ang mga SCADA infrastructure... almost everybody concerned with 2.4GHz Wireless will suffer because of this.. well at least sa NCR, Region 3 and 4...

lahar:

"the 2.4GHz is globally recognized as a free band meaning it can be used for extensive purposes like commercial and internal corporate deployment or for research and development activities."

and it wasn't chosen by MERALCO.. they just asked NTC for a free band.

since wi-fi is a new technology and that Meralco is using the 2.4ghz band,

and that the philippines does not manufacture wi-fi devices,

i think that Meralco should re-consider another free band for them to use internally. it's just a matter of budget. we cant force wi-fi manufacturers to change the frequency of its products...

can't the government just give another frequency to meralco to rectify this problem? if a lot of filipinos would benefit with the use of 2.4ghz, hindi pa ba justifiable reason yan to take back the frequency? o talagang mas mahalaga ang interes ng iilan lang


yeah, pero kung hindi ito gagawan agad ng paraan baka ma-ban ang WiFi dito hanggang 2012 (the loan is intended for SCADA operation is good up to 2012).. baka laos na bluetooth dev't sa buong mundo by that time... hehehe... it was sad kasi i was going to apply for a job relating to bluetooth dev't.. minalas lang talaga ako.. =(

The NTC wants to regulate WiFi devices because of the possibility of interference with Meralco's radio equipment.



Meralco was moved from 900 MHz to 2.4 GHz in the mid-1990s because it was operating in one of the cellular phone bands. It is unfortunate that the NTC assigned Meralco to the 2.4 GHz band since even at that time 2.4 GHz was one of the bands reserved by the International Telecommunications Union for industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) use.



The International Table of Frequency Allocations contained in Article 5 of the Radio Regulations (volume 1) provides:



"5.150 The following bands: 13553-13567 kHz (centre frequency 13560 kHz), 26957-27283 kHz (centre frequency 27120 kHz), 40.66-40.70 MHz (centre frequency 40.68 MHz), 902-928 MHz in Region 2 (centre frequency 915 MHz), 2400-2500 MHz (centre frequency 2450 MHz), 5725-5875 MHz (centre frequency 5800 MHz), and 24-24.25 GHz (centre frequency 24.125 GHz) are also designated for industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) applications. Radiocommunication services operating within these bands must accept harmful interference which may be caused by these applications. ISM equipment operating in these bands is subject to the provisions of No. 15.13."



I believe it is unnecessary to regulate the use of 802.11 devices because they are low-powered and have short ranges, just like other consumer radio devices that do not require a permit to operate like wireless mikes, cordless phones, etc. Meralco can share the frequency with 802.11 devices, though it would be prudent to put some restrictions for the use of such devices near a Meralco radio station.



Besides, there is another draft memorandum circular covering the equipment registration of spread spectrum devices like 802.11 equipment. If NTC requires that all WiFi devices comply with 802.11 standards, then I foresee no problem.

batty-1, I wasn't able to make it during the last hearings on the 17th. Are those on the 4th also going to be open to the public? Do people get to speak up? It's odd that they're not regulating cordless phones that make use of the 2.4GHz band either. From what I've heard, 802.11b and 802.11g devices aren't capable of interfering with 2.4GHz cordless phones, yet these phones can actually interfere with 802.11b and 802.11g devices. Is this correct?



I've read the WiFi Draft MC dated 2003-07-11 and Bluetooth devices are listed as items requiring registration (3.2.4.4). If so, how do they intend to collect from everyone who's purchased a Bluetooth-capable phone? Also, item 4.4.1.4 which regulates the importation of indoor SST radio equipment is absurd: "Indoor SST radio equipment personally brought into the country may be allowed to be registered with the Commission provided, it is no more than five (5) units per user." Why the hell should they limit the number of WiFi devices registered to one person? I can't help but feel that these regulations serve no other purpose than to fill their coffers.

sandstig, the hearings being conducted by the NTC are public hearings. I was present at the July 17 hearing. There were so many people present that the late comers were force to stand outside the venue of the hearing, the Executive Meeting Room. Because of the obvious interest of the public in the proposed regulations, Commissioner Borje announced to those present that the next hearing will be held at the NTC auditorium in order to accomodate all interested parties.



The commissioners invited comments from those present. Several people, including myself, expressed reservations/objections to the proposed MC. Those who said they were in favor of the MC were the telecos (because they wanted only PTEs to provide hotspot services) and Meralco.



I have no idea whether 802.11 devices interfere with other radio equipment or vice versa. There is nothing on the 'net regarding this. That's why I want the NTC to conduct a field test of a 802.11 hotspot near a Meralco radio station. I'll even volunteer the services of my Airport-equiped iBook.



Personally, I believe the test will show that the 802.11 devices don't interfere with 2.4 GHz radios. There are 2 hotspots currently operating near the Meralco GAS substation at Shangri-la EDSA and none of the establishments connected to said substation are experiencing disruptions in power supply.



Brent, we cannot ignore the NTC. We simply cannot allow the NTC to issue the MC as is. We have to point out objections to the NTC and make them see the light. If we do nothing, we're screwed: WiFi will not take off and we will be forced to rely on Ethernet.



I strongly urge the menyeks who find the MC objectionable to attend the next hearing. Commissioner Borje said the hearing will be Monday, April 4, but I will verify this first and let you guys know.

To those who didn't attend the hearings on August 4, it appears, based on the last Draft MC released by the NTC that they will be pushing forward with requiring registration for WiFi cards, and Bluetooth devices at 100 pesos per unit and 500 pesos for routers and access points. There was no mention of how bridges would be treated.



One thing I noted during the hearings though, was that they only mentioned taking into account the position papers of Bayantel, PLDT, Meralco, Globe and Smart. According to them, they had either not read or received the position papers of PISO (Philippine Internet Services Organization), Atty. Hilario Marbella, the Laguna WiFi Users Group, or any of the consumer groups. Something's very odd about the fact that the meeting was primarily dominated by the lawyers of the earlier mentioned companies who seemed to be rather chummy with the NTC reps. A number of questions went un-clarified or un-answered as well, such as their requirement for type-approval or type-acceptance, in which they stated if they didn't have the equipment for testing they would rely on the ITU... which begs the question, why require further type-acceptance or type-approval if these devices already ARE approved by the ITU?!? They were also rather contradictory about permitting internet cafés to offer their own private wireless LANs, so long as they purchased internet access from the PTEs (public telecoms entities: PLDT et al), whereas ISPs and building administrations would not be permitted to set up such wireless LANs even if they purchased their outgoing bandwidth from the aforementioned PTEs.



The PISO representative was not able to fully defend his organization's case as he seemed intimated by what seemed like a hostile audience, as I'm sure many other who wished to speak felt (I know I felt like people just wanted to get things over with).



The Bayantel representative stated that ISPs and other such private entities should not be permitted to open up wireless LANs for commercial use in order to avoid duplication of services and a virtual "spaghetti" effect in the wiring. Unfortunately, he failed to note, that the PTEs need not compete in the wireless market and could possibly enter at a later time as Wi-Max is more suited to infrastructure, thus leaving the ISPs to battle it out on their own. Either way, the PTEs would still be making money as these ISPs would be purchasing external bandwidth from the PTEs anyway.



In hindsight, I wish I'd been able to say all this while I was there, and I wish I'd brought a camcorder with me to record the event for later study.

Though it is not clearly worded, the draft WLAN MC does not require non-commercial end-users to register their equipment with the NTC. This was emphasized by Dir. Cabarios who said during the August 4 hearing that these devices would be registered by the distributor. The rules for this is found in the draft MC for spread signal technology (SST) equipment.



While this may look fine on paper, this will add at least P100 or P500 to the SRP of Wi-Fi and Bluetooth equipment and devices. Dealers may add a certain amount to cover administrative expenses related to the registration of the devices with the NTC. Or they may decide not to offer these devices in order to avoid the hassles of dealing with the NTC.



The best solution is type-approval or type-acceptance to be done by the manufactures so as not to burden the distributors. Also, the distributors should not be limited to NTC-registered radio equipment dealers; it should include PC equipment/component distributors as well.

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News: Commercial Wi-Fi services, Bluetooth 'illegal,': NTC

Commercial Wi-Fi services, Bluetooth 'illegal,': NTC
Posted: 0:00 AM (Manila Time) | Jun. 30, 2003
By Erwin Oliva and Joel Pinaroc, contributor
INQ7.net
http://www.inq7.net/inf/2003/jun/30/inf_1-1.htm

AS far as the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) was
concerned, commercial wireless fidelity (Wi-Fi) services, and even
Bluetooth use, was still "illegal" in certain regions in the
Philippines, including Metro Manila, an official of the regulatory body said over the weekend.

Edgardo Cabarios, director of the common carrier department of the NTC said that the body was still drafting guidelines to regulate commercial Wi-Fi activities and boost their deployment and development in the country.

"I think (commercial Wi-Fi) services have to stop because it is against the law," he said.

Wi-Fi, also known as the 802.11b standard, use a specific radio
frequency band to create a wireless network around an access point or Wi-Fi hotspot that is usually connected to the Internet. Customers of businesses with hot spots can use the hot spot to connect their notebook computers and personal digital assistants to the Internet without cables.

Current NTC regulations prohibit the use of the spread spectrum
technology--which includes Wi-Fi, within the 2.4-gigahertz frequency band. This frequency band is now being used by the power utility firm Manila Electric Co. (Meralco) for internal communications.

Cabarios said that operators like mobile phone firm Globe
Telecommunications have no authority yet to offer commercial Wi-Fi services in Metro Manila.

Globe has been actively deploying Wi-Fi hotsports in Metro Manila, Cebu, and Davao. The cellular phone company has been issued a "propagation test permit," which allows it to evaluate the technology within 30 days.


Cabarios said that, however, that the permit did not give Globe the authority to offer commercial Wi-Fi services.

Gil Genio, senior vice president of wireline and data services of Globe Telecom, said that the operator's Wi-Fi services were just part of a bundled service.

He added that subscribers of Globe's digital subscriber line or DSL, for instance, could avail of the company's Wi-Fi services as part of their subscription.

"Wi-Fi is just one form of access we offer. There are other customers paying us through other means to gain access," Genio said.

Cabarios said the guidelines would life the prohibition against Wi-Fi in the National Capital Region (Metro Manila), Region III (Central Luzon), and Region IV (Southern Luzon).

He also said that, based on existing regulations, Bluetooth wireless technology use should also be regulated.

Bluetooth provides wireless connectivity within a 10-meter radius and is used to allow mobile devices to communicate with each other without wires. Many new mobile devices released in the Philippine market support this technology.

NTC is scheduled to conduct a public hearing in July on the guidelines before it issues a directive allowing the use of the 2.4-Ghz frequency band in the three regions.

He said that NTC has been talking with Meralco since 1998 on using a frequency other than the 2.4-Ghz, which is considered a free frequency band in the United States.

"The move will not affect their operations," Cabarios said.

Genio said that Globe's propagation test permit was current, but he hoped that the NTC would issue the guidelines as soon as the firm's permit expires.

The executive pointed out that the industry was currently operating under an old regulatory framework.

NTC regulations are based on laws passed in the 1930s.

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How the hell are they gonna implement this, especially for bluetooth? A lot of celphones have this already! These people are funny.

Ganyan naman lagi NTC eh, anything about communications ng walang permit sa kanila is illegal.

Dahil sa laki na siguro ng gastos nila sa refund kaya napagbalingan yung Wifi at bluetooth para mapagkakitaan.

pera lang issue dito...

gusto lang pagkakitaan to ng government,

But time has change and technology have changed the way people live, and i think it's time to change the old rules to make it more effective.

I think they're after something - another money making gimmick na naman siguro!


NTC, GOBYERNO TALAGANG INUTIL SA INTERNET:

http://www.remate.ph/2015/09/ntc-gobyerno-talagang-inutil-sa-internet/


Credits: remate.ph and pinoyexchange

 

[natzukia]

unlicensed 2.4ghz (wifi and bluetooth) is only allowable at 100mw power, anything higher than that needs a registration from NTC.

so if you DIY it, you probably need some approval with NTC or else, if meralco found out that you use a overpowered 2.4ghz in that area, confiscated lahat yan, nangyari na yan nabalitaan ko lang na confiscated yung 2000miliwatt picostation dahil hindi licensed yung operation nya, ang nag kaso, meralco, kasi sa boong NCR, si meralco ang mayhawak ng 2.4ghz frequency channel 1-6, ginagamit nla yan para sa mga power grid nila sa NCR.

dun sa video ng news5 probably isang business offer yan, sila na yung mag provide lahat ng equipment including business permit and ntc permit. So kung kukuha ka sa kanila, dont be shy to ask kung meron NTC approval at meron NTC permit yung wifi hotspot na kukunin mo. Else, mawawala na parang bula yang business mo.

pero may work around

you can actually extend your wifi coverage by using repeaters, assuming those repeaters where also under 100mw power. You can put as many as you want without any kind of license to NTC creating a mesh network like of wifi hotspot. Downside is, medyo hassle ang pag setup.

Wala naman talagang pwedeng mag may-ari or bumili ng 2.4 Ghz Free Band po talaga yan pati din sa ibang bansa, binenta lang ng NTC yung freqency na yan sa meralco SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition ) , Para pag kakitaan.

Compare sa: Handheld radio, business radios, 2 way radios or walkie talkie yung madalas makita sa mga fx / van need talaga nun ng permit sa ntc




Pati nga bluetooth sa mga nokia phones dati at sa ibang mobile phones na merong bluetooth, gagawin pang illegal ng NTC. para lang sa sticker

Kung gusto nila, na hindi mag interference sa 2.4Ghz ng meralco,

Dapat palitan nila yung Wi-Fi Frequency sa buong pilipinas at sa ibang manufactures

alam mo naman dito sa pinas. maraming corruption.

After, ng ilang buwan, maba-litaan mo ulit na binenta ni NTC yung ibang Frequency sa mga ibang Big Companies, Kaya yung tulad natin na comsumer or buyer ang mag kakaroon ng problema, pera-pera na naman yung suhulan.

 

[jaypz1968]

meron na ba talaga neto ? ayos na business to kung sakali ..

 

[natzukia]

Meron na po sir, if kung gusto ninyo yung ganitong business, tulad sa first page.

 

[yeltels]

mganda ito negosyo ah

 

[blocksfree389]

Bakit ka naman hu-huliin, Parang Wi-Fi lang naman, baka nga sa bahay din nila gumagamit ng mga Long Range Wi-Fi or router Wi-Fi


*Depende pa rin yan sympre sa area mo ahh, kung bukid adi mas malayo pero kung mga bahay bahay may mga signal loss na yan sa metal, glass, concrete, at mga wifi routers, microwave oven ng kapitbahay.





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3.) Ubiquiti Unifi Outdoor + 10/12/15dBi Omni Antenna or 120* Sector Antenna

https://www.ubnt.com/products/

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siguraduhin mo na ding may NTC seal yung biniling WiFi router bahala ka na din gumamit:

Ang mga unit na walang NTC seals ay tinatawag na Grey Units, except sa mga units na binili sa ibang bansa na natural walang NTC seals yung mga yun. Ito rin ang dahilan kaya hindi illegal bumili at magbenta ng walang NTC seal, dahil paano nga kung sa abroad binili at gusto ibenta dito?

Ang main difference lang ng NTC sealed sa Grey Unit ay yung presyo at after sales support. Hindi din dumaan sa official distributor ng Pilipinas ang Grey units kaya mura at wala ngang NTC seal.


Both are GENUINE and LEGAL/Legit whatever you prefer.


pwede ka bumili ng Alcon, Tp-link, Alfa dun sa Sulit o kina Wireless Link at Roughclaw
Marami din sa ( MALLS )

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Para sa akin wala masama dito completely legal ito unless ang source ng internet ng wifi routers nyo eh illegal ang internet. Nga pala ang mga repeaters eh pinagbabawal na po ng NTC ah. Wala ako alam about jan sa Meralco pero kung ganun man sila suriin muna mabuti area nyo gamit kayo ng wifi scanner para makita kung anu anu mga channels ang nasa area nyo at magchange channel na lang kayo kung saan as much as possible hindi magoverlap.

Ang alam ko lang regulated if ang mga piyesa na ginagamit nyo is CARRIER grade or yung mga quality ng antenna na telecom lang dapat gumagamit. Kasi licensed yung mga yun. Pero kung yung mga maliliit na point to point or directional antenna lang naman ginagamit na hindi naman ganun kalakasan ok lang SIGURO?. Basta alam ko BAWAL NA REPEATER period.

 

[natzukia]

Marami na kasi nag bebenta sa sulit ng mga wireless:

NanoStation M
NanoBeam M
PowerBeam M
Powerbeam AC
Rocket M
Bullet M
AirGrid
PicoStation
Unifi UAP
AirFiber
ubnt Antenna
Edge Max
Edge Switch

Nag survey ako ng mga channels, wala naman akong interference sa ibang wi-fi devices,

Always channel 4 gamit ko, Kapag nag change ako ng channel nag loloko yung pc ko.


Nag survey ako ito lang nasasagap ng wi-fi ko po with-in 36 Meters pa lang yan.

Ganyan karami, guma-gamit ng wi-fi sa lugar namin.

 

[anelley]

ayos ito ah

 

[denyx]

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[Leihacker09]

pa subs muna, interesting topic to

 

[natzukia]

Mikrotek yata at Voucher , hindi ko po kabisado lahat eh.. ang pag kaka alam ko, kapag mag set-up ka ng program sa iba ay abot ng 5K.


Marami thread sa ticketing system, kaso hindi ako magaling sa pag set-up

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di bawal yan as long as nasa regulatory frequency list lang itratransmit mo. pag channel 1-11 (wlan = 2.4-2.49ghz ) ok lang siguro. channel 12 frequencies pataas yata bawal pag wala kang license.

for example:

globe = 2.5-2.7ghz
smart = 2.33-2.37ghz
witribe = 2.53-2.59ghz
PAGASA = ?
other government agencies = ?

lets say nagtransmit ang AP mo ng above frequencies sa area mo, magooverlap frequency mo sa coverage nila. pag nadectect na may interference sa area nila itratrace ka at ireklamo ka nyan, saka papasok NTC hahanapan ka ng license. pag wala ka naipakita himas rehas labas mo. yan pagkakaintindi ko

Sir, Hindi pwede gamitin yung 900mhz Gina-gamit ito ng Globelines Smart PLDT, it Means License ang Frequency nayan.

Unlike sa 2.4ghz, 5ghz, 10ghz, 21ghz,

Kapag ginamit mo yung 900mhz ( http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-900Mhz-NanoBridge-Airmax-Antenna/dp/B007PVBXUS ), Problem mo diyan your jamming signal ng Smart, Globe, or PLDT. Hahanapin ka nila, at tatawagin ka nilang Signal Jammer.

nabasa ko lang po credit kay: Xentar.

 

[natzukia]

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Boss ano solution sa bug ng outdoor AP na tplink? kpg lagpas lima na nka connect sa client router ndi nko mkapasok sa gui or mhirap na mka connect ung iba pang device eh

 

[SUPERMANandBATMAN]

Wifi is a public frequency. hanggang kaya ng device mo marating kahit makasagasa ka ng channel ng ibang wifi, wala tayong batas na nagbabawal nun.

 

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