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Naguguluhan ka rin ba kung anong relihiyon ang susundin?

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LOL to the highest level. If i am going to use your statement, this world is now a better place. kasi lahat naman yata ng gumagawa ng masama eh yung mga taong may Dyos na pinaniniwalaan. Meron silang Dyos pero gumagawa pa din sila ng masama. Ang lahat ng utos ng Dyos ay mabuti? Oh you should read your bible thoroughly. mas maganda kung cover to cover.

Mali ka na naman dude. kung may takot ka sa Dios di ka gagawa ng masama, iba yung nagkakasala at sa sinasadya at huwag mong lahatin na yung may mga taong may Dios gumagawa ng masama. bukod dyan oo tama lahat ng utos ng Dios ay mabuti, siguro mali ka lang ng interpretasyon kasi ang laging sinasabi ng Science kaya ka naging Atheista is to see is to believe, always go literal, pano naman yung spirtitual? wala ka na kayo masagot? di kita masisi kung bakit ganyan ka kase baka galing ka sa maling relihiyon kaya ka nagkaganyan. better to you na magresearch ka, be compassionate. Huwag kang maging close minded sa nalalaman mo baka akala mo tama yun pala mali.


Wrong. Even before your bible came, may mga set of codes or morals na ang mga tao. Hindi yan dahil sa Dyos mo.

asan set of codes or morals ng tao bago pa ang Bible? siguro kung walang Bible ang dami ng same sex marriage and HIV/AIDS gonna be spread fast.

may naitala ba ang tao na HUWAG KANG PAPATAY, MAG-IIMBOT, SASAKSI SA DI KATOTOHANAN or ETC noong wala pang Bible? pakita mo nga dapat nakasulat
 
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Ang iglesia katolika ang tunay na simbahan, ito ang tatag ni Hesus Kristo.

Check the history, hindi sa bible lang

Dito ako natawa! Check mo History ng Catholic Church, Ano ichecheck namin sa History ng Catholic Church? kung ilan ang pinapatay nila? :lol:
 
Wrong. Even before your bible came, may mga set of codes or morals na ang mga tao. Hindi yan dahil sa Dyos mo.

Moral Codes started with Adam and Eve, when they were cast out of Eden, GOD send messenger to them to teach them the Gospel and guide them. dun po nagsimula na ang sets of Moral Codes na sinasabi mo

At kung doon nagsimula it's because of GOD pa din.

and I don't care po if you even believe in Adam and Eve or the bible itself..
may thread po ang mga atheist dito..bakit po di na lang dun kyo tumambay at nakikipag argue kayo sa belief ng believers?
 
How about no religion? I chose not to have a religion in my life and I'm fine.
 
How about no religion? I chose not to have a religion in my life and I'm fine.

There are ordinances that are necessary for our salvation and number one ordinance is baptism.
 
Mali ka na naman dude. kung may takot ka sa Dios di ka gagawa ng masama, iba yung nagkakasala at sa sinasadya at huwag mong lahatin na yung may mga taong may Dios gumagawa ng masama. bukod dyan oo tama lahat ng utos ng Dios ay mabuti, siguro mali ka lang ng interpretasyon kasi ang laging sinasabi ng Science kaya ka naging Atheista is to see is to believe, always go literal, pano naman yung spirtitual? wala ka na kayo masagot? di kita masisi kung bakit ganyan ka kase baka galing ka sa maling relihiyon kaya ka nagkaganyan. better to you na magresearch ka, be compassionate. Huwag kang maging close minded sa nalalaman mo baka akala mo tama yun pala mali.
nope. i don't generalize believers. ako pa talaga ang sasabihan mo na magresearch. before we came into this, we were once like you. galing sa maling relihiyon? haha. lahat naman ng relihiyon nagsasabi na sila ang tama at iba ang mali. religion is subjective per se. ikaw ano ba ang relihiyon mo?

i don't need religion to be compassionate. as a matter of fact mas compassionate ako ngayon kesa dati. we are thinking creature. we do know what is right and what is wrong kahit pa wala ang bible mo. you need to have empathy.


asan set of codes or morals ng tao bago pa ang Bible? siguro kung walang Bible ang dami ng same sex marriage and HIV/AIDS gonna be spread fast.

may naitala ba ang tao na HUWAG KANG PAPATAY, MAG-IIMBOT, SASAKSI SA DI KATOTOHANAN or ETC noong wala pang Bible? pakita mo nga dapat nakasulat
code of hammurabi and code of ur-nammu are examples of laws dated even before the existence of your bible laws. you will see similarities between them. i don't need to lecture you on this.

if i may ask, what religion do you belong?

Moral Codes started with Adam and Eve, when they were cast out of Eden, GOD send messenger to them to teach them the Gospel and guide them. dun po nagsimula na ang sets of Moral Codes na sinasabi mo

At kung doon nagsimula it's because of GOD pa din.

and I don't care po if you even believe in Adam and Eve or the bible itself..
may thread po ang mga atheist dito..bakit po di na lang dun kyo tumambay at nakikipag argue kayo sa belief ng believers?
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ok i will just use your adam and eve answer. LOL wala pang gospel during the time of Adam and Eve. walang moral codes during the time of adam and eve. kasi kung meron na, hindi na sana dumami pa ang tao kasi bawal ang incest. I recommend you read your bible para informed ka ate. :lol:

and i know may thread ang atheist dito but did you even read the title of this thread?
 
nope. i don't generalize believers. ako pa talaga ang sasabihan mo na magresearch. before we came into this, we were once like you. galing sa maling relihiyon? haha. lahat naman ng relihiyon nagsasabi na sila ang tama at iba ang mali. religion is subjective per se. ikaw ano ba ang relihiyon mo?

i don't need religion to be compassionate. as a matter of fact mas compassionate ako ngayon kesa dati. we are thinking creature. we do know what is right and what is wrong kahit pa wala ang bible mo. you need to have empathy.

Hindi ko naman sinasabing kailangan mo magkaroon ng Religion to be compassionate. What im telling is be compassionate. halos naman ng pinaniniwalaan mo being atheist gawa lang ng tao. Bible tells the beginning and the end. how about your science? may sinabi na ba ang Science pagkamatay mo o ng tao?



code of hammurabi and code of ur-nammu are examples of laws dated even before the existence of your bible laws. you will see similarities between them. i don't need to lecture you on this.

hahaha code of hammurabi and code of ur-nammu? eh ang tanong sinusunod mo ba yan? hindi rin naman eh? ang totoo nyan humahanap ka lang ng mailulusot mo para di ka sumunod sa Bible, even code of hammurabi or ur-nammu baka di mo rin sundin eh :lol: at tyaka pano mo nasabing mas matanda yan eh ang unang tao nga ay si Adam at Eve so meaning mas matanda ang Bible. kaya nga lang di ka nga pala naniniwala sa Bible :lol:

if i may ask, what religion do you belong?

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ok i will just use your adam and eve answer. LOL wala pang gospel during the time of Adam and Eve. walang moral codes during the time of adam and eve. kasi kung meron na, hindi na sana dumami pa ang tao kasi bawal ang incest. I recommend you read your bible para informed ka ate. :lol:

di naman kailangan ng Code of etc. pa, even nung pinanganak ka at nagkaisip alam mong may tama at mali at higit sa lahat may naka wired sa utak naten na may Dios.
hindi naman maipapaliwanag ng Science yun kung bakit may ganon and only the Bible can answer that.
 
Hindi ko naman sinasabing kailangan mo magkaroon ng Religion to be compassionate. What im telling is be compassionate. halos naman ng pinaniniwalaan mo being atheist gawa lang ng tao. Bible tells the beginning and the end. how about your science? may sinabi na ba ang Science pagkamatay mo o ng tao?
Yes may iba pa bang bagay na hindi ginawa ang tao na pwede kong paniwalaan at hindi paniwalaan? I am compassionate because i chose to.
Also, what do i get in believing in "the beginning and the end"? You can reserved it for yourself. Para sa inyo lang yan hindi para sa amin.

hahaha code of hammurabi and code of ur-nammu? eh ang tanong sinusunod mo ba yan? hindi rin naman eh? ang totoo nyan humahanap ka lang ng mailulusot mo para di ka sumunod sa Bible, even code of hammurabi or ur-nammu baka di mo rin sundin eh :lol: at tyaka pano mo nasabing mas matanda yan eh ang unang tao nga ay si Adam at Eve so meaning mas matanda ang Bible. kaya nga lang di ka nga pala naniniwala sa Bible :lol:
i just answer your question that there are set of codes or laws written prior to your bible laws. the question if i am following those laws is out of question.
but of course i don't follow. we have our own constitution and philippine laws.
yes you are right, i don't believe in your bible that is why i also don't believe in your adam and eve. so don't use that analogy in the argument.

ow ang dating daan pala. nasa brazil pa din ba si bro eli? :) ang tagal na nya dun ha

di naman kailangan ng Code of etc. pa, even nung pinanganak ka at nagkaisip alam mong may tama at mali at higit sa lahat may naka wired sa utak naten na may Dios.
hindi naman maipapaliwanag ng Science yun kung bakit may ganon and only the Bible can answer that.
Wrong. hindi nakawired sa utak natin yan. Impluwensya sa atin yan ng mga magulang natin and ng society where we belong. Your belief depends kung saan ka pinanganak or lumaki. society ang nagdedefine ng morality. kayang ipaliwanag ng science kung baket naniniwala ang tao sa dyos. i can give you a book to read.
but of course, we all have biases. hindi mo yan paniniwalaan. then so be it :lol:
 
Yes may iba pa bang bagay na hindi ginawa ang tao na pwede kong paniwalaan at hindi paniwalaan? I am compassionate because i chose to.
Also, what do i get in believing in "the beginning and the end"? You can reserved it for yourself. Para sa inyo lang yan hindi para sa amin.

then why dont you try to answer my question? does science tells what next after death?


i just answer your question that there are set of codes or laws written prior to your bible laws. the question if i am following those laws is out of question. but of course i don't follow. we have our own constitution and philippine laws.
yes you are right, i don't believe in your bible that is why i also don't believe in your adam and eve. so don't use that analogy in the argument.


Yes we have constitution and philippine laws but do you know that our law is replicated from the Bible?
kaya nga di ka napatay or nagnanakaw or nagawa ng masama kasi impluwensyado ka ng batas which is came from the Bible and wired to your brain. your conscience can tell you that. :beat:


ow ang dating daan pala. nasa brazil pa din ba si bro eli? :) ang tagal na nya dun ha

Sasabihin mo nagtatago? may nagtatago bang nag Bbroadcast? :clap:


Wrong. hindi nakawired sa utak natin yan. Impluwensya sa atin yan ng mga magulang natin and ng society where we belong. Your belief depends kung saan ka pinanganak or lumaki. society ang nagdedefine ng morality. kayang ipaliwanag ng science kung baket naniniwala ang tao sa dyos. i can give you a book to read.
but of course, we all have biases. hindi mo yan paniniwalaan. then so be it :lol:

lets go to your argument, galing ba sa mga magulang or environment? ang tanong san galing yung impluwensya? kung uugatin mo diba papunta rin sa Dios ?
kung yung unang nilalang na tao may nakilalang may Dios di bat naprocess yun going to the present? hindi bat ganon din yun ? :lol:

hanggat iniignore nyong may Dios yun ang nagpapatotoo na may Dios
 
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then why dont you try to answer my question? does science tells what next after death?
yes. we live, we die, we rot.

Yes we have constitution and philippine laws but do you know that our law is replicated from the Bible?
kaya nga di ka napatay or nagnanakaw or nagawa ng masama kasi impluwensyado ka ng batas which is came from the Bible and wired to your brain. your conscience can tell you that. :beat:
it is just the same with other countries. in muslim countries their laws is based on their belief. natural lang yun. it will depend on your foundation. of course we are a pre-dominantly christian country so ang laws natin is based on belief. but it is not replicated.

Sasabihin mo nagtatago? may nagtatago bang nag Bbroadcast? :clap:
did i say nagtatago? masyado ka yatang defensive.



lets go to your argument, galing ba sa mga magulang or environment? ang tanong san galing yung impluwensya? kung uugatin mo diba papunta rin sa Dios ?
kung yung unang nilalang na tao may nakilalang may Dios di bat naprocess yun going to the present? hindi bat ganon din yun ? :lol:
hanggat iniignore nyong may Dios yun ang nagpapatotoo na may Dios
wrong again. we don't ignore your God because we don't believe he exist. there is a big difference.
and your argument can lead to circular reasoning. i will not get your bait. pwede mo lang yan gamitin sa mga katulad mong naniniwala.
 
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yes. we live, we die, we rot.
Hmmm what if you may buhay after death and may Dios ano gagawin mo? and sabi mo sa baba di mo iniignore na may God but di ka lang naniniwala na nag eexist sya.
san ba sya di nag eexist? literally?


it is just the same with other countries. in muslim countries their laws is based on their belief. natural lang yun. it will depend on your foundation. of course we are a pre-dominantly christian country so ang laws natin is based on belief. but it is not replicated.

based on belief nga sabi mo, tapos di replicated :thumbsup:


did i say nagtatago? masyado ka yatang defensive.

hindi nga, pero kung alam mong nandun bakit kailangan mo pang tanungin at matagal na dun ?
were not kids :lol:


wrong again. we don't ignore your God because we don't believe he exist. there is a big difference.
and your argument can lead to circular reasoning. i will not get your bait. pwede mo lang yan gamitin sa mga katulad mong naniniwala.

thanks sa clarification ;) pero ang gulo talaga eh, kasi if you dont ignore him? why do you need to say na hindi sya nag eexist ? nagdadalawang isip ka ba ?
but di mo napasagot yung tanong ko about influence :lol:
 
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Hmmm what if you may buhay after death and may Dios ano gagawin mo? and sabi mo sa baba di mo iniignore na may God but di ka lang naniniwala na nag eexist sya.
san ba sya di nag eexist? literally?
Ano gagawin ko? eh di wala. :lol:
yes literally don't exist.


based on belief nga sabi mo, tapos di replicated :thumbsup:
yes. there is a big difference between the two. go figure it out

hindi nga, pero kung alam mong nandun bakit kailangan mo pang tanungin at matagal na dun ?
were not kids :lol:
nope. you are just too defensive.

thanks sa clarification ;) pero ang gulo talaga eh, kasi if you dont ignore him? why do you need to say na hindi sya nag eexist ? nagdadalawang isip ka ba ?
but di mo napasagot yung tanong ko about influence :lol:
yes i see naguguluhan ka nga. :lol:
it is like saying that we are anti but honestly speaking how could be be anti if in the first place we don't believe in its existence.
see what i mean?
 
Ano gagawin ko? eh di wala. :lol:
yes literally don't exist.

ok hahaha
eh pano yung oxygen? nagbibigay ng buhay sayo yun. pero di sya nag eexist di mo kase nakikita eh ? edi di ka rin naniniwala ?



yes. there is a big difference between the two. go figure it out

siguro pero yun din yung point eh, kahit paikot ikotin mo pa hahaha :lol:


nope. you are just too defensive.

ok haha i just need to tell it para sa mga ibang nagbabasa, kung di ka nga ganon then its good and i need to say sorry :salute:


yes i see naguguluhan ka nga. :lol:
it is like saying that we are anti but honestly speaking how could be be anti if in the first place we don't believe in its existence.
see what i mean?

di naman ako naguguluhan kasi even if na hindi mo sya iniignore tapos di ka rin naniniwala na nag eexist sya, literally or spiritually, it is resulting as denying him
 
eh bakit naman kasi mga tangang tanong yung ipinost mo kung para sayo ay negosyo lang ang relihiyon eh bakit kapa mag rerelihiyon ano yun?gusto mo bang magbigay ng pera para sa mga bulaang propeta. at kung mag rereligion ka at gusto mo akma lang sayo eh magtayo ka ng religion mo. ikaw pala ang masusunod eh. go tayo kana at mag sama-sama akyong mga negosyanteng relihiyon nyo. di ako aanib dyan pera-pera pala gusto nyo. bakit kapa mag rerelihiyon sakit lang yan sa ulo mo.kaya payo ko sayo wagna. wagka nang mag relihiyon.
 
eh bakit naman kasi mga tangang tanong yung ipinost mo kung para sayo ay negosyo lang ang relihiyon eh bakit kapa mag rerelihiyon ano yun?gusto mo bang magbigay ng pera para sa mga bulaang propeta. at kung mag rereligion ka at gusto mo akma lang sayo eh magtayo ka ng religion mo. ikaw pala ang masusunod eh. go tayo kana at mag sama-sama akyong mga negosyanteng relihiyon nyo. di ako aanib dyan pera-pera pala gusto nyo. bakit kapa mag rerelihiyon sakit lang yan sa ulo mo.kaya payo ko sayo wagna. wagka nang mag relihiyon.


Hello cooper, para sa akin hindi tanga ang tanong na to, Im sure 100% na marami ring naguguluhan kasi nga sa ganitong mga klaseng usapin di natin alam kung sino ang panalo at talo.. at tama na sinabi ko nga sa previous post ko na negosyo yung relihiyon if not all, pero para sa akin kasi, hindi yun sapat na batayan para hindi na ako sasali, aanib o whatever term yung akma dito kasi yung guidance yung hinahanap ko na magiging mas malinaw yung understanding ko about sa mga nakasaad sa bible.. at alam natin na mahihirapan tayong mag interpret nito kasi ang lalim ng wordings niya, kung may mga babayaran sa mga relihiyong ito, hindi na siya mag mamatter masyado sa akin kasi nga in the first place yung guidance lang naman yung hinahanap ko..wala naman segurong taong sasali sa mga ganito kung puro pera2x lang ang usapan. Kung may babayaran naman o donation, alam naman natin na hindi naman ito seguro purely mapupunta sa mga hindi makabuluhang bagay o sa sinasabi mong bulaang propeta, may pagpapa improve sa mga facilities ng simbahan, social services at iba pang bagay na nakakapag bigay tulong sa lipunan natin.. pero i respect your opinion ganun talaga :)
 
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