Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

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[yamii]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

Hay Nalipana na nga talaga yung mga MLM (multi level marketing) o networking, ayaw pa nila patawag na pyramiding. e diba ganun din naman yun. Mas mukhang inosente ba yung pangalan na networking kesa sa pyramiding knowing na pareho lang naman sila ng strategy. Hindi namn ako against sa Networking o pyramiding kung talagang nakakatulong sa kapwa. Sino ba namn ang hindi maeenganyo sa business na eto eh pag-ininvite (o kinidnap ka )ka ng isang kakilala mo tapos sasabihin may pupuntahan lang kayo etc., tapos sa orientation ka lang pla dadalhin. pwes nandun ka na eh la ka na magagawa kundi makinig. well yung nakakaenganyo eh yung nag-oorient na yumaman daw (o dati ng mayaman) dahil sa business nila. magpapakita ng mga cheke, mga picture ng mga nabili nilang luxury cars, magarang bahay etc.

ano ba ang laban ng isang regular employee o walang trabaho kapag narinig nilang sabihin sa kanila na pwede syang kumita ng P50,000.00 a week. umaasam din yung mga kababayan natin na maging ganun din sila. yung ibang mg kaibigan ko naawa lang ako eh. regular sila sa trabaho, yung iba supervisor ng fastfood. nagresign para magfulltime sa networking. pero sa akikita ko ngayon sa kalagayan nya lagi syang pagod, gabi na umuuwi sa pamilya nya tudo kayod. sa dati nyang work maganda namn ang sahod at may oras pa sya sa pamilya. alam ko marami ag may kalagayang ganito.

eto ang totoo sa networking/pyramiding:
- kung bago palang ang companya at ikaw ang nauuna madali kumita dahil marami ka makikidnap.
- mahirap maging downline.

 

[jeraldb1003]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

uu nga nakakapagod ang maging isang networker. pero eto rin lang masasabi ko. mapagod ka man ng 2 taon, eh kung iyong 2 taon mo kikita ka naman. after ng 2 years pede ka na maghinay hinay sa networking dahil gagalaw na ang group mo.

sa amin kasi walang iwanan, kapag may na invite ako, binibigyan ko ng tao strong side nila.

 

[cmplengrakizta]

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hahaha. buti nalang di ako sumali dati nung inaya ako ng friend ko. sa GFI siya (Global Fusion, Inc.) P8,900 ang fee sa pinakamababang membership. scam din ba yun? buti nalang pinag aralan ko munang mabuti kasi muntik ko nang ibenta cp ko. haha.

 

[takmau08]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

Hey mga kids!
Do you really know what Multi-Level Marketing is?
o gusto nyo lang manira tlga dahil sa mga nag fail na tao?

New member here! pero natuwa ako sa thread na 'to hehe

Pa epal: Ang "SCAM" sa MLM ay wala sa Company, Dahil ang mga MLM company ay nag oofer lamang ng magandang negosyo para sa mga tao. Un nga lang, ang "SCAM" ay nasa mga MEMBERS.. Nakasalalay ang magiging takbo ng isang MLM company sa gagawing diskarte ng mga members, kaya nga tinawag na NETWORK.. COPY business po ito.

Kung Ang isang member ay pusakal, walang ethics, Greedy, at higit sa lahat walang RESPETO sa company nya at sa guest, malamang lahat ng magiging Downine nya eh ganun din gagawin!

whew! kalurkey..

If gus2 nyo maintindihan tlga ang MLM, w/c is napaka gandang start na negosyo para sa mga new entreprenuer, may bagong BOOK si "Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trumph."

"WHY WE WANT YOU TO BECOME RICH"
nasa last article nila ung about sa MLM. Mura lang un! wala pang 300php sa National Bukstor un!

yan yan.. thx po! hehe

PS: Rich DAD, Poor DAD
maganda rin yan!

 

[yamii]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

Hey mga kids!
Do you really know what Multi-Level Marketing is?
o gusto nyo lang manira tlga dahil sa mga nag fail na tao?

New member here! pero natuwa ako sa thread na 'to hehe

Pa epal: Ang "SCAM" sa MLM ay wala sa Company, Dahil ang mga MLM company ay nag oofer lamang ng magandang negosyo para sa mga tao. Un nga lang, ang "SCAM" ay nasa mga MEMBERS.. Nakasalalay ang magiging takbo ng isang MLM company sa gagawing diskarte ng mga members, kaya nga tinawag na NETWORK.. COPY business po ito.

Kung Ang isang member ay pusakal, walang ethics, Greedy, at higit sa lahat walang RESPETO sa company nya at sa guest, malamang lahat ng magiging Downine nya eh ganun din gagawin!

whew! kalurkey..

If gus2 nyo maintindihan tlga ang MLM, w/c is napaka gandang start na negosyo para sa mga new entreprenuer, may bagong BOOK si "Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trumph."

"WHY WE WANT YOU TO BECOME RICH"
nasa last article nila ung about sa MLM. Mura lang un! wala pang 300php sa National Bukstor un!

yan yan.. thx po! hehe

PS: Rich DAD, Poor DAD
maganda rin yan!

Yung Rich Dad, Poor dad pinahiram sakin ng friend ko. Maganda yung libro Informative talaga. Kapag nabasa mo makakalimutan mo yung falls mo at maiinspire ka. Worth recommending.

 

[baet]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

Wag nyo po sabing lahatin ^__^
Naapektuhan yung mga ok na MLM.. =)

 

[takmau08]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

Hay Nalipana na nga talaga yung mga MLM (multi level marketing) o networking, ayaw pa nila patawag na pyramiding. e diba ganun din naman yun. Mas mukhang inosente ba yung pangalan na networking kesa sa pyramiding knowing na pareho lang naman sila ng strategy. Hindi namn ako against sa Networking o pyramiding kung talagang nakakatulong sa kapwa. Sino ba namn ang hindi maeenganyo sa business na eto eh pag-ininvite (o kinidnap ka )ka ng isang kakilala mo tapos sasabihin may pupuntahan lang kayo etc., tapos sa orientation ka lang pla dadalhin. pwes nandun ka na eh la ka na magagawa kundi makinig. well yung nakakaenganyo eh yung nag-oorient na yumaman daw (o dati ng mayaman) dahil sa business nila. magpapakita ng mga cheke, mga picture ng mga nabili nilang luxury cars, magarang bahay etc.

ano ba ang laban ng isang regular employee o walang trabaho kapag narinig nilang sabihin sa kanila na pwede syang kumita ng P50,000.00 a week. umaasam din yung mga kababayan natin na maging ganun din sila. yung ibang mg kaibigan ko naawa lang ako eh. regular sila sa trabaho, yung iba supervisor ng fastfood. nagresign para magfulltime sa networking. pero sa akikita ko ngayon sa kalagayan nya lagi syang pagod, gabi na umuuwi sa pamilya nya tudo kayod. sa dati nyang work maganda namn ang sahod at may oras pa sya sa pamilya. alam ko marami ag may kalagayang ganito.

eto ang totoo sa networking/pyramiding:
- kung bago palang ang companya at ikaw ang nauuna madali kumita dahil marami ka makikidnap.
- mahirap maging downline.

FYI: MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING is not a PYRAMID SCHEME.. at never naging PYRAMIDING ang MLM, Kung matututo tayong mag research at mag basa ng libro, malalaman nyo un.

Instead, OPPOSITE ang MLM sa PYRAMIDING.. nasa article din un ni donald trumph and Robert K..

Dapat lagi tayong nag aaral sa mga opportunity na ganyan. ang opportunity laging naka tago, hindi mu malalaman.. hehe (anu daw?)

 

[my_knight0314]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

salamat sa info bro..

 

[jeraldb1003]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

ayan. wag kasi makinig sa mga sabi sabi.

mag research muna kasi bago mag react.

 

[Renzokuken]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

hi po mga kasymbianize...

ahm,,, ask ko lang po uli kung scam ba yung ALIVE...
kasi yung isa kong kakilala kasama dun, sinasabi samin na okay daw yung business na yun, pampayaman daw... hehe

naccurious lang po ako... XD

 

[jonpinz]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

It's really great you made an awareness about this threads. How nicer if you could also counter-offer something not "TRAPPING" and worth earning or opportunities for those 'OTHERS". In so doing you are not only stealing dreams to those who desire for a "DIFFERENCE" in their life but above all 'YOU REALLY ARE HELPING" THEM ALSO HOW TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE in their lives. Please take this suggestion honestly and may you have the suggestions that can make LIVES better BOTH FOR US, MAYBE FOR YOU TOO AND ALSO FOR OTHERS. Thank you.

 

[jeraldb1003]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

^ ano daw?

di ko po nagets

 

[Renzokuken]

Re: Please beware of MULTI-LEVEL NETWORKING / PYRAMIDING COMPANIES' modus operandi

anong sabi ni jonpinz??
ako ba sinasabihan niya?? hehehe

di ko rn gets ehh.. hehe

 

[donnethj]

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Hi. I just want to clear things out. Mukhang marami ang nalilito dito. Mahalaga let's talk about FACTS.

Una, Network Marketing is a LEGAL Business having a unique and proven system for distributing products. This is what wikipedia has got to say about the topic

Multi-level marketing (MLM), (also called network marketing, direct selling, referral marketing, and pyramid selling) is a term that describes a marketing structure used by some companies as part of their overall marketing strategy. The structure is designed to create a marketing and sales force by compensating promoters of company products not only for sales they personally generate, but also for the sales of other promoters they introduce to the company, creating a downline of distributors and a hierarchy of multiple levels of compensation in the form of a pyramid.

The products and company are usually marketed directly to consumers and potential business partners by means of relationship referrals and word of mouth marketing.[13]

MLM companies have been a frequent subject of controversy as well as the target of lawsuits. Criticisms have focused on their similarity to illegal pyramid schemes, price-fixing of products, high initial start-up costs, emphasis on recruitment of lower-tiered salespeople over actual sales, encouraging if not requiring salespeople to purchase and use the company's products, potential exploitation of personal relationships which are used as new sales and recruiting targets, complex and sometimes exaggerated compensation schemes, and cult-like techniques which some groups use to enhance their members enthusiasm and devotion. Not all MLM companies operate the same way, and MLM groups have persistently denied that their techniques are anything but legitimate business practices.

Pangalawa, pano mo ba malalaman kung ang company ay isang legal na company or hindi?

Sagot:

The government established an ANTI-PYRAMIDING TASK FORCE para protektahan mga consumers just like you and me. Sila nang-huhuli ng mga Networking companies na mali-mali ang sistema.

Pangatlo: Pano mo ngayon malalaman kung maganda ang systema ng mga network marketing companies? The philippine government (ANTI-PYRAMIDING TASKFORCE) worked with an international organization para mapalakas pa ang pag-sugpo ng mga SCAMMERS or mga companies na maling pamamalakad ng sistema or the people within the companies' system of recruiting and moving products. The international Organization is what they call WORLD FEDERATION OF DIRECT SELLING ASSOCIATION (WFDAS). Ang WFDAS ang nagse-set ng standards kung maganda ang sinasalihan mong company. Take note it's an international organization meaning let's say napad-pad ka sa iban bansa at may nag-alok sau ng network marketing business, kelangan mong tignan ang sistema nila kung pumasa sa WFDAS. Ngayon ang WFDAS ay gumawa ng mga branches para ma-maximize ung service nila. So bawat bansa merong WFDAS. Sa singapore merong (DSAS or Direct selling association of singapore), Sa Vietnam, merong (DSAV or Direct Selling association of Vietnam) Merong din sa malaysia (DSAM) and sa ating bansa meron tayong tinatawag na DSAP or Direct selling association of the philippines. If you're company is enlisted sa DSAP, that means maganda ang sistema and credibility ng company mo since DSAP only approves trustworthy companies on their lists. Kung wlaa sa lists ng DSAP ang company na sinalihan mo or nagrerecruit sau, that means questionable ung company.

Lastly, ang network marketing din po ay tinuturo na rin as a course sa known universities like ateneo and Lasalle headed by Professor Josiah Go (who happens to be the chairman of Direct selling association of the phillippines) and sa Univeristy of Chicago Illinois and Harvard University headed by Professor Charles King who is a graduate of MBA in Harvard University.

For more information you can click below my sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing
http://www.dsap.ph/
http://www.wfdsa.org/

For the lists of companies in the philippines na approved by DSAP, click on the link below

http://www.dsap.ph/directory.html

Lahat po kasi ng mga sinabi sa thread ay puro opinion. Bakit di natin i-base sa FACTS. At least you have a supporting evidence to your claims. As a consumer like you and me, make sure you do your diligence research hindi basta-basta makinig lang sa mga promises ng mga nagrerecruit sa inyo.

If you're serious of working on a business that really works, you can contact me through my facebook ([email protected]) or contact me through my landline: 02-509-5862.

The company I'm working with have already delivered their promises million times and counting. It's a member of WFDSA and DSAP. And won the award as Highest paid commissions among direct selling and network marketing companies that is enlisted in New York Stocks Exchange. I'm only looking for serious people to work with and who are success driven. If you're not the type of person please don't contact me.

Sana naka-tulong itong information kong ito.

 

[coordinator13]

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@jeraldb1003
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@baet
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@takmau08
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bago lang po akong networker. hindi nman po agad ako napasali. 2 weeks na ako umaatend ng training/seminars bago ako sumali.

Sa issue po ng "Pyramiding" daw ang "Networking". hindi po ganun dahil pag sumali tayo sa isang MLM Company, may nakukuha naman tayong products, may selling at movement of products na nangyari. Walang ganun sa pyramiding... Pera kapalit lang ng "paper" at "promise"..

Tama po, wala nman po dapat pilitan eh. un nga po sa case ko, hindi naman ako pinilit. If ayaw talaga, eh di wag umattend. If di magets, attend lang uli ng seminars, ask questions. Pag naaintindihan na, attend pa din. Then at last, pag alam na sa sarili na gusto, you want to do the business, then join na.

Yup, pag sumali sa MLM companies, natural may membership fee. Pero ang kapalit noon? makapag direct sell na din ng products, recruit, franchise. etc. Yun ang puhunan. Para sa akin, yun ang negosyo na nakita ko na SMALL CAPITAL, BIG INCOME POTENTIAL.

Sa case nman ng trapping, kidnapping terms, wag nman po igeneralize yung networking/mlm companies dahil nangyayari nman yun dahil sa strategy ng mga walang training na networkers. NETWORKING business is not for everyone. kung gusto ng tao, sasali sya at gagawin yung business. pag ayaw, eh di ayaw. baka yung sunod na person gusto mag business. sa akin thru email / text INVITES, fliers, personal invitations.

if sumali, eh di nakapagparami ng network, lugi ba kamo? hindi nman eh. dahil may nakuhang products. dahil sa membership fee na yun, may kapalit na. (opposite of pyramiding)

once na sumali sa NETWORKING business, gawin ang business, dahil hindi nman QUICK RICH technique ang networking. mahirap yun. mahirap sa simula na sa later mararamdaman ang ginhawa.

"NETWORKING" business hindi "NOT-WORKING". hindi porke kasali na eh yayaman na. kikita lang tayo depende sa effort, belief, work na binibigay natin. that's why recommended sya for part time. Unlike sa employment, magtrabaho man ng magaan o mabigat, pareho lang mauuwing sweldo.

kung may kikitain man tayo sa NETWORKING business o wala ay depende sa atin yun. wag isisi sa MLM company. nagprovide lang cla ng opportunity para kumita. tayo pa din gagawa. nagprovide na nga ng pagkakikitaan ang MLM masisisi pa.. feeling pa naloko. ginamit nman ang products..

Tayo naman magdedecide kung anong business na gagawin natin. malaki ba membership ng MLM? anung mas malaki amount? membership fee ng MLM? or OVERHEAD COST (Electric/Water/Space Rental/Tax, etc), PERSONNEL (pasweldo), MATERIALS, CERTIFICATES for government and other cost ng traditional business? I don't have anything against Traditional Business, kaso dun kasi, kung gusto kumita ng malaki, natural malaki din dapat puhunan. Yun ang offer ng MLM, alternative business options. Practicality lang po.

yung trapping/kidnapping po, strategy ng mga kulang/walang training/desperate na networkers. wag lang po lahatin. that's why invitation po dpat ginagawa.. INVITE (personal, text, email, etc..), nasa pupunta pa din kung sasama siya o hindi. para sa interesado lang talaga. ang networking ay hindi din para sa lahat ng tao, kahit ang objective ng MLM ay tumulong, magbigay ng business, kung hindi ayaw nman ng tao, eh di ok lang. baka yung next person gusto nya.

mga uplines.. mga kikita lang eh yung nauna.. NATURAL! una yung upline sa downline eh. xmpre mas kikita cla sa downline. langan nmang yung downline na kajojoin lang mas malaki na yung kita sa upline nya. Sipagan para magkaron din ng downlines, para kumita din. saka kung ano man meron na yung upline, pinaghirapan nila yun. sumali sila, naglabas din ng pera, nag invite, namigay ng fliers, nag sales talk, at kung anu ano pa. so dapat inspiration pa yung achivement ng upline, dahil DUPLICATION lang nman ang networking business. kung ano ang ginawa ng ibang kumita, gnun din lang naman gagawin ng others.

Again, pls wag lahatin. wag magalit/mainis/hate sa MLM companies, kung di sa mga pasaway at mga unethical na members na gumawa ng mga bagay na nirereklamo sa forum na ito.
Pls don't prejudge. Don't be judgemental.

A little knowledge about something is dangerous. - just because sinabi ng iba, feeling na ganun nga tlg. Mag research po tayo. Bigyan ng chance yung seminar. yung business.
In this case...
"To see, feel, and understand is to believe."

 

[einjheL25]

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tama po c coordinator,.wag niong lahatin,kz my ibng company n mtino nmn,.if ever man my gz2 sumali first thing n itan0ng nio bout s c0mpany ay ung "anu b ung company net nla",.kng wla cla msbi eh,investgate p kau,.c0mpany net yan ung 1 s strategy ng company pra maasure ntn n ndi cla mgsa2ra bec0z of nalugi
kz pg ngsara ang c0mpany kwa2 ang mga memberz,lalo n ung mga bago n ndi p kumikita,.

 

[anonymuz1121]

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if papasok ka sa MLM. dapat right team, right products, right company stable. if you want to try mlm i can help you succeed

 

[clang3104]

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Mga Ka Symbianize.. pwede sumali?

kakapay in ko lang po dito..

Frontrow
Head office at Tomas Morato, Quezon City

test ko lang, after 1 week.. inform ko kayo.. ;P
pwede naman daw kasi ipull out yung account..

first time ko kasi sumali sa MLM..
ayoko din kasi nung KIDNAP style ng mga MLM eh..
kaya sabi ko sa mga friends ko try ko muna.. kapag kumita.. saka sila mag unahan pag sali.. ;D

Ayos yan. Ipagpatuloy mo lang bro. Siguradong magiging successful ka diyan. Remember wala namang 'get-rich-quick-scheme'. Tamang company, tamang timing at tamang diskarte lang yan.

 

[jm_palubs]

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bat wla avon d2 puro boys yata yau ahh,,avon ganyan din d lang halata talo avon lady sa company qng ma delay ka ng bayad ehh may interest na agad,,, lang patawad parang 5'6 na bumbay