Vpn ang Katotohanan

[jigsawkramer]

samakatuwid bawal gamitin ang vpn kung ang purpose ay to bypass the allocated bandwidth ng isp

 

[ardel431]

tanong lang mga sir, anong VPN ang working ngaun sa luzon at working na promo para dito? mag avail sana ako tia

 

[pacman222]

tanong lang mga sir, anong VPN ang working ngaun sa luzon at working na promo para dito? mag avail sana ako tia

parang maling thread pinasok mo

 

[raniagaE24]

Totoo pala yung mga offer sa FB na 1month VPN, kala ko peke lang or 1-2days lang gagana, then pagkatapos wala na?? Ang gamit ko lang kasi sa VPN ay para ma-access ko yung mga website na di ko ma-access lalo sa work ko na karamihan block ang IP ko. Hmmm.. Nice thread and replies.

 

[icer09]

Illegal po to.. once ginamit mo ang vpn sa ano mang illegal na bagay ay illegal considered na illegal ayon sa google

 

[eugcar]

nakakatuwa naman po kayo mga bossing... hehehehe...

well VPN is legal at binabayaran po ang mga bawat server at depende din po sa specs ng server na bibilhin ni vpn owner kung 500gb, 1tb, 2tb or unmetered bandwidth and beside khit ang government gumagamit po ng vps.

kaya lang lumalabas na illegal kc need dumaan tlga sa source like tm prepaid sim (globe telecom) data connection but syempre nag-aavail ng sim promo registration. at tska d naman po post paid sim ang ginagamit sa mga vpn kundi prepaid sim.

khit sabihin natin na ka pldt ka pwede k naman din gumamit ng vpn.

ang for purpose po ni vpn is to secured your connection.

kung kaya't sleep na po tayo hehehehehe

 

[jvinluan]

nakakatuwa naman po kayo mga bossing... hehehehe...

well VPN is legal at binabayaran po ang mga bawat server at depende din po sa specs ng server na bibilhin ni vpn owner kung 500gb, 1tb, 2tb or unmetered bandwidth and beside khit ang government gumagamit po ng vps.

kaya lang lumalabas na illegal kc need dumaan tlga sa source like tm prepaid sim (globe telecom) data connection but syempre nag-aavail ng sim promo registration. at tska d naman po post paid sim ang ginagamit sa mga vpn kundi prepaid sim.

khit sabihin natin na ka pldt ka pwede k naman din gumamit ng vpn.

ang for purpose po ni vpn is to secured your connection.

kung kaya't sleep na po tayo hehehehehe

Legal naman ang VPN pero ginagamit sa maling paraan (free net) which is ILLEGAL lalo yung mga pinoy VPN providers. Wag na tayo mag lokohan pa. Di mapapansain yang VPN na yan kung hindi dahil sa freenet. Tanggapin na lang natin, ako vpn user, ikaw vpn resellers at vpn providers ay nakikinabang sa ILLEGAL na VPN!

 

[skeithashe]

Eh ang pagbenta po ng Bug Sim, legal ba o illegal?

 

[broken214]

dapat lang yang mga vpn na yan. Sobra na pagnanakaw satin ng mga telco.

bawi bawi din pag may time haha

 

[eugcar]

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Ang Lupet noh! Ito ang Telco natin.. hahahahahaha...
kaya wag na po tayo maglokohan pa! Sir.

 

[nfs2aizen]

Re: Pm mo ako sir

ako certified VPN FREEMIUM user from 2010 until now gang FUTURE...LEGAL ANG VPN.... ang illegal legal p din yan as long d k mahuli hahaha

 

[Jazz66]

Re: Pm mo ako sir

Para sa akin Legal ang VPN

About sa UNLI internet?
Problema nila na yon kung may butas ang system nila at least nagloload din ako so what the purpose of VPN? To surf the net Anonymously, doesn't matter about the bandwidth used ^_^

 

[kingpin3]

common sense lang po. Walang matibay nabatas thrue internet na magsasabi na legal o illegal. Ang alam kolang ang illegal kung ginagamit mo na ito sa masamang bagay. Kc kung mapapansin nyo halos ng vpn ibang sever ang ginagamit. Ang ginagamit lang ng vpn is yung mga antenna o tower ng mga telco hindi yung mga ip nila. Yun ang pag kakaalam ko. Kung may matibay na batas na nagsasabi na illegal ung internet na ginagamit mo. Baka yun! masasabi mo na illegal ang mga vpn. Alalahanin ninyo na lahat ng nakalikha ng mga website at pati internet ay mga hacker lahat ng mga yan. Pati nga mga magagaling ay puro hacker. . . . .

kailangan mo pa ata mag study sa google hehehe lahat mali yung sinasabi mo...

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nakakatuwa naman po kayo mga bossing... hehehehe...

well VPN is legal at binabayaran po ang mga bawat server at depende din po sa specs ng server na bibilhin ni vpn owner kung 500gb, 1tb, 2tb or unmetered bandwidth and beside khit ang government gumagamit po ng vps.

kaya lang lumalabas na illegal kc need dumaan tlga sa source like tm prepaid sim (globe telecom) data connection but syempre nag-aavail ng sim promo registration. at tska d naman po post paid sim ang ginagamit sa mga vpn kundi prepaid sim.

khit sabihin natin na ka pldt ka pwede k naman din gumamit ng vpn.

ang for purpose po ni vpn is to secured your connection.

kung kaya't sleep na po tayo hehehehehe

legal daw nyahahahaha ay nako dami na kayo

 

[eugcar]

kailangan mo pa ata mag study sa google hehehe lahat mali yung sinasabi mo...

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legal daw nyahahahaha ay nako dami na kayo

nyahahaha! you are saying vpn is legal daw?

how can you explain this vps provider?
https://www.digitalocean.com/ <= legal or legal daw(illegal)

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well! nasa tao na po yan! kung ano ba talaga ang pagkakaintindi nila sa VPN!

LEGAL o ILLEGAL!...

 

[Arceus]

VPN is a tool just like knife is a tool. Like a knife, it is NOT prohibited under our laws therefore it is LEGAL. It is the act that is punishable under our laws such the use of these tools to commit a crime.

FYI: If ever a criminal case is file against you in court. You may bail out of jail but you will have problem getting NBI Clearance for job applications or any. It will only be cleared when a resolution from the court found you not guilty which will take years to come out, losing job opportunities.

PS: ignorantia legis neminem excusat.

 

[pusangkalye]

VPN application ay legal. Kung illegal ang vpn dapat na-pullout na sa playstore ang mga vpn application.

Illegal ang vpn pag ginamit sa unlawful, fraudulent, at abusive purpose.

Nasa Terms of Service ng Globe naman yan. Basahin mo sa likod ng package ng bagong bili na globe sim.

Yung vpn na ginagamit para makakuha ng internet access na normally kailangan mong magbayad para magamit ang magsasabi sayo na hindi tama at may mali.

Kung pakiramdam mo ay di nakaw na internet yun eh may problema tayo sa moral compass natin.

Example. Yung kable ng kuryente. Legal ba gumamit o hindi? Depende sa pag gamit. Kung gagamitin mo yun para makakuha ka ng libreng serbisyo ng kuryente, illigal yun. Kase hindi naman libre ang kuryente, pero nakakagamit ka ng kuryente ng di mo na kailangan magbayad. Simple lang naman. View attachment 319716

 

[jrm10]

Like what i have said, VPN service is Legal, it is the way you use it that is not!

If you use VPN to avoid paying money for internet access, it is a way of stealing. And believe me or not, most symbianizers including me are using VPN to download pirated content. it is the way you use it!! uulitin ko, it is the way you use it!

electricity is the same with internet, they are both infinite but being restricted by monetizing. Parehas silang pay to use kaya ginamit ko sya sa analogy.

using VPN is not stealing, Selling VPN is not a crime in PH

It is the way we use it!



I have to retract my word with Anti fencing law, I have very little knowledge about it, using or selling VPN for free internet may or may not fall under this laws. but we all fall under the terms and conditions of telco's Prepaid SIM terms and conditions!


Sana may abogado dito ng mga telco at mag paliwanag! haha

Sang-ayon ako kay mongoload..sana may legal team ang dito na pwede magpaliwanag sa mga batas regarding sa mga ganitong usapan..Siyempre gusto nating malaman ang mga rights natin..pero ayaw din natin umabuso..maganda ang ibinangon na topic

Im well aware na maraming matatalino dito sa respective areas nila...i salute

 

[jeromepaine]

common sense lang po. Walang matibay nabatas thrue internet na magsasabi na legal o illegal. Ang alam kolang ang illegal kung ginagamit mo na ito sa masamang bagay. Kc kung mapapansin nyo halos ng vpn ibang sever ang ginagamit. Ang ginagamit lang ng vpn is yung mga antenna o tower ng mga telco hindi yung mga ip nila. Yun ang pag kakaalam ko. Kung may matibay na batas na nagsasabi na illegal ung internet na ginagamit mo. Baka yun! masasabi mo na illegal ang mga vpn. Alalahanin ninyo na lahat ng nakalikha ng mga website at pati internet ay mga hacker lahat ng mga yan. Pati nga mga magagaling ay puro hacker. . . . .

Advice lang. Aral aral ka muna ng basic networking or kahit basic research lang kasi magmumukha kang katawa tawa kapag pinost mo pa yan ganyang paniniwala mo.

 

[watchTOWER28]

Balik tayo sa Orig na Title.. VPN ang katotohanan..

Simple lang po yan, Kung mura ang internet service ng telcos,walang vpn.. FOr instance ung 50 pesos na 1gb /3days make it 50gb per week for 50 pesos..sobrang damot kasi ng telcos pagdating sa data eh kaya tayo nagvvpn for those limited 1gb..di nila alam kung san makakarating ang 1gb ng isang android phone..

mahal ang 50php 1gb/3days sa isang ordinaryong manggawa

 

[jeromepaine]

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Assuming you are using a prepaid sim and a device approved by NTC (untampered), then using VPN does not violate RA 8484.

In regard to anti-fencing. "Fencing" is the act of any person who, with intent to gain for himself or for another, shall buy, receive, possess, keep, acquire, conceal, sell or dispose of, or shall buy and sell, or in any other manner deal in any article, item, object or anything of value which he knows, or should be known to him, to have been derived from the proceeds of the crime of robbery or theft.

The question, is the VPN Service Provider committed the crime of theft? The answer is no. The crime is not yet committed. It is the VPN user who will commit the crime, thus the provider and seller will only be liable for accessory to the crime if code exploit/bypass is found in the VPN software.

Theft is committed by any person who, with intent to gain but without violence against or intimidation of persons nor force upon things, shall take personal property of another without the latter’s consent.

Crime of theft is arguable and in my opinion using VPN to access the internet with the intent to gain (by not paying right) is a theft.

Anyway, the more appropriate law to apply is RA 10515. SEC 4 a and c. For prepaid subscriber when you don’t have load or subscription, you no longer authorize to access the internet thus it falls in section 4a without authority. RA 10515 apply as well in wireless such as 3G, LTE, and WiFI because these are delivery system/network.

SEC 4:
(a) intercept or receive, or assist in intercepting or receiving, any signal offered over a cable television system or a cable internet system by tapping, making or causing to be made, any connection to an existing CATV System/Network or Cable Internet System/Network without the authority of the concerned CATV Service Provider or Cable Internet Service Provider;

(c) use or receive any direct or indirect benefit from any CATV System/Network or Cable Internet System/Network with knowledge that it is a result of any of acts enumerated in paragraphs (a) or (b) above: or

Definition of terms:

Cable Internet Service refers to the transmission or delivery of electronic signals for a fee, to provide and facilitate access to the worldwide web, for a fee, through a CATV transmission or delivery system/network.

Cable Internet Service Provider refers to any person natural or juridical, public or private, which was issued a registration certificate as provided under existing laws, rules and regulations, to provide and facilitate access to the worldwide web for a fee, through a CATV transmission or delivery system/network and is actually providing Cable Internet Service to its subscribers

Cable Internet System/Network refers to a facility engaged in the transmission or delivery of electronic signals for a fee, to provide and facilitate access to the worldwide web, for a fee, through a CATV transmission or delivery system/network

Quote ko lang ito. Maliwanag ito sakin.

The problem is our telcos. Mag avail ka ng 10mbps (up to 10mpbs) plan. Ang marereceive mo is less than 10mpbs and nagkakaron pa ng mabagal na internet connection because of congestion and other reasons ng mga telcos kapag tumawag ka sa customer support. Considered din yun as theft diba? One more, the term "UNLIMITED" I believe our telcos already committed crime sa maraming subscribers nila by using false advertising using the word UNLIMITED.

UNLIMITED
(adjective)
not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.

That's why may palusot sila na Fair Usage Policy to cover up yung pagnanakaw nila using the word UNLIMITED.