[ADVISE] Help in Assembling/Building/Choosing/Upgrading Your Computer

[OhNow3P]

Hi guys,

I started this thread to help everyone wanting a new computer. All you need to do is post the following:

budget:
usage:

other miscellaneous requirements:

*If to be used for gaming,. please indicate the games you wish to play.


The prices i will be using are those that come from major shops in gilmore and also PCexpress and others... The prices will only reflect that of which on the date of my post.


also please put your requests in this format:

Processor:
Motherboard:
RAM:

Video Card:

Hard Drive:
Optical Drive:

Power Supply:
Casing:

monitor:

Accessories:

please indicate (at least)the size of the hard disk desired, and also what you need/have/prefer.

Thanks.


How to get to Gilmore:
commuting... From EDSA get on the MRT to Cubao and take the other train and get off at Gilmore station. so easy.
driving... Via aurora is the easiest way from EDSA. anyway, just ask na lang cos i dunno where you'll be coming from.


An example post would be as follows:

Hi. Please help me buy a computer for my son. He will be using it mainly for school and some games. He likes to play Dota and L4D. Our budget for the PC would be 20K. We already have a printer, monitor and speakers. Our monitor is a 17" CRT monitor. My son said he prefers 1gb video card.

Thank you.

 

[vheryoness]

sabi ni matt8988. bottleneck yan. kaya nirecommend nya si ryzen 2400g

hindi bote ang G4560 + gtx1050, match nga performance nyan eh, kahit hangang gtx1060 kaya pa nyan

Kaby Pentium is The New Budget King

The chip is no slouch in gaming either, proving to be the perfect companion for a graphics card akin to the RX 460, GTX 1050 or 1050 Ti (it worked also well with the GTX 1060 though we think a sub-$200 GPU makes more sense for playing CPU-intensive games on the G4560).

 

[matt8988]

note for new builders:

Don't cheap out on your Power Supply Unit (PSU). It serves as the heart of your PC supplying current on your parts. A cheapo, generic psu typically have unreliable voltage and current supply with extreme peaks and dips. pag may pumutok na capacitor nyan, baka madamay pa ibang components nyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6snWfd1v7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em4PLzv2zSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP8nFQYQW34

source: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3081961/risks-buying-cheap-psu.html

edit:
merong mga True Rated PSU which means that the given rating (e.g. 500w, 600w, etc) ay ang actual power na kaya nya supply. the efficiency rating is also an advantage as higher efficiency rated PSU's consume less power than lower tiered ones.
may PSU thread na na-discuss na rin mga yan and i would recommend that you read them if you want more information. I'll post the link once I can find it.

edit 2: found the link
https://www.mobilarian.com/showthread.php?t=1396876

really? all brandnew pc parts tapos mag recommend ka ng bargain/used psu?

Hindi ibig kong sabihin na bargain eh 2nd hand o used
Kapag bumili ka ng RIG sa gilmore, pulot gata ka dun pwede kang makahingi ng discount (free asssemble, discounted PSU/Case) lalo na kung malaki ang budget mo. Pangalawa malaki na difference ng PSU price sa web site kesa sa actual price nyan kung pupunta ka sa gilmore.

Conclusion:
Wag kang magbibigay ng brand at price ng psu sa shop, magtanong ka muna ng recommended nilang psu para sa listahan mo ng Rig.

Kagaya ng mga una kong advise, mas magandang ang shop ang mag advise sa mga psu lalo na wattage nyan dahil pwedeng gumana sa una yan pero kapag dumami nakakabit sa mobo, posible nang magkaproblema yan.

wait pano nag botneck ang g4560 + 1050 , 1050 is not powerful GPU
try mo mag intel 5400 w/ h310 to 370 chipset ( for upgrade path ) + 1050ti + 16GB Memory + EVGA 450w kac mababa nmn ang load mo
or kung kya mo mag i3 8100

hindi bote ang G4560 + gtx1050, match nga performance nyan eh, kahit hangang gtx1060 kaya pa nyan

Kaby Pentium is The New Budget King

Nasa bibili yan kung gusto nya yan o hindi, basta ako nagsabi na ako ng bottleneck yan

 

[vheryoness]

Hindi ibig kong sabihin na bargain eh 2nd hand o used
Kapag bumili ka ng RIG sa gilmore, pulot gata ka dun pwede kang makahingi ng discount (free asssemble, discounted PSU/Case) lalo na kung malaki ang budget mo. Pangalawa malaki na difference ng PSU price sa web site kesa sa actual price nyan kung pupunta ka sa gilmore.

Conclusion:
Wag kang magbibigay ng brand at price ng psu sa shop, magtanong ka muna ng recommended nilang psu para sa listahan mo ng Rig.

Kagaya ng mga una kong advise, mas magandang ang shop ang mag advise sa mga psu lalo na wattage nyan dahil pwedeng gumana sa una yan pero kapag dumami nakakabit sa mobo, posible nang magkaproblema yan.






Nasa bibili yan kung gusto nya yan o hindi, basta ako nagsabi na ako ng bottleneck yan

ay wow

now i know, bakit ka ganyan mag bigay ng advise on building PC

Kagaya ng mga una kong advise, mas magandang ang shop ang mag advise sa mga psu lalo na wattage nyan dahil pwedeng gumana sa una yan pero kapag dumami nakakabit sa mobo, posible nang magkaproblema yan.

 

[matt8988]

ay wow

now i know, bakit ka ganyan mag bigay ng advise on building PC

ay wow nga

Hindi ko akalain na sa pagbibigay ko ng advise ay may tatamaan o ewan ko na lang kung anong gusto nyang iparating (1. No Flaming or Trolling.)

Conclusion (Sana Final na )
Nasa bibili yan kung tatanggapin nila ang advise o hinde, this is forum for everyone na gustong magbigay ng advise at hindi advise ng iisang tao lang, sana may moderator na makakabasa

 

[vheryoness]

ay wow nga

Hindi ko akalain na sa pagbibigay ko ng advise ay may tatamaan o ewan ko na lang kung anong gusto nyang iparating (1. No Flaming or Trolling.)

Conclusion (Sana Final na )
Nasa bibili yan kung tatanggapin nila ang advise o hinde, this is forum for everyone na gustong magbigay ng advise at hindi advise ng iisang tao lang, sana may moderator na makakabasa

sana nga may makabasang moderator para makita nila gano kasablay mga advise mo

walang masamang mag advise, basta sasabayan mo din ng facts

"Kagaya ng mga una kong advise, mas magandang ang shop ang mag advise sa mga psu lalo na wattage nyan dahil pwedeng gumana sa una yan pero kapag dumami nakakabit sa mobo, posible nang magkaproblema yan."

tulad nyang sinabi mong epic

 

[themonyo]

ay wow nga

Hindi ko akalain na sa pagbibigay ko ng advise ay may tatamaan o ewan ko na lang kung anong gusto nyang iparating (1. No Flaming or Trolling.)

Conclusion (Sana Final na )
Nasa bibili yan kung tatanggapin nila ang advise o hinde, this is forum for everyone na gustong magbigay ng advise at hindi advise ng iisang tao lang, sana may moderator na makakabasa

well, sa totoo lang we already had several and in-depth discussions about PSU's. meron akong link na pinost dun kung saan namin pinag-usapan yan. merong PSU tier list which we agreed and most recommendations were based from it.

yung sinabi mong hindi gumana ay malamang mahinang quality yung PSU na pinili, generic or kapos sa power. that's why all our recommendation are True Rated with at least a bronze certification. well, minsan white lang like the corsair vs450 pero yan ay kung talagang gipit sa budget. I only recommend generic ones included with the case lalo na kung office pc, APU build or temporary lang talaga hanggang sa makaipon ng kapalit.

our power rating recommendation are mostly based on experience and know-how on how much power does a certain part require. then add all those up and multiply them by around 1.5~2x to utilize the efficiency curve of the PSU. meron din power supply calculator na website at pcpartpicker kung gusto mong exact

we don't actually recommend asking those on store on their recommendation kasi kasama sa sales-talk yan sa kanila eh. mamaya either bentahan ka ng basurang PSU na di nila mabenta or sobrang OP naman na platinum rated.

 

[matt8988]

well, sa totoo lang we already had several and in-depth discussions about PSU's. meron akong link na pinost dun kung saan namin pinag-usapan yan. merong PSU tier list which we agree and most recommendations were based from it.

yung sinabi mong hindi gumana ay malamang mahinang quality yung PSU na pinili, generic or kapos sa power. that's why all our recommendation are True Rated with at least a bronze certification. well, minsan white lang like the corsair vs450 pero yan ay kung talagang gipit sa budget. I only recommend generic ones included with the case lalo na kung office pc, APU build or temporary lang talaga hanggang sa makaipon ng kapalit.

our power rating recommendation are mostly based on experience and know-how on how much power does a certain part require. then add all those up and multiply them by around 1.5~2x to utilize the efficiency curve of the PSU.
we don't actually recommend asking those on store on their recommendation kasi kasama sa sales-talk yan sa kanila eh. mamaya either bentahan ka ng basurang PSU na di nila mabenta or sobrang OP naman na platinum rated.

Nakuha ko punto mo at agree ako sau, pwede ka ngang masales talk.
Pero malalaman naman kung basura o hindi ang bibilin mong PSU. Kagaya ng sinabi ko, malaki na talaga diperensya ng price ng psu sa website compare sa actual price nya pag nagpunta ka dun.

Conclusion:
Nasa bibili yan kung tatanggapin nila advise o hindi .

 

[ydnar23]

hi mga sirs. need an expert opinion. my processor is i5 4th gen. planning to upgrade my gpu to gtx 1060 6gb. is it ok padin ba for 4th gen processor or need to upgrade nadin my processor? aim ko lang naman is 1080p gaming. thanks.

 

[themonyo]

@matt8988;
we are here to help the n00bs build/upgrade their PC by recommending a good value for money parts combination.
fortunately, most of us here in this thread that helps other people are concerned that they don't burn their PC, money and maybe their house.

hi mga sirs. need an expert opinion. my processor is i5 4th gen. planning to upgrade my gpu to gtx 1060 6gb. is it ok padin ba for 4th gen processor or need to upgrade nadin my processor? aim ko lang naman is 1080p gaming. thanks.

4th gen is still very much capable... very competitive pa nga yung mga "unlocked" na 2nd gen eh. I myself, have a 4th gen i7 4790 paired with a 980ti. though medyo kapos ako ng mga 3~10 fps against the 4790k, but that is still a great gaming performance. I think on par pa yang CPU mo sa i3 8100 since 4 cores na rin ang i3 ngayon

note: 980ti is on par with a 1070 with less than 5% margin of error

 

[vheryoness]

hi mga sirs. need an expert opinion. my processor is i5 4th gen. planning to upgrade my gpu to gtx 1060 6gb. is it ok padin ba for 4th gen processor or need to upgrade nadin my processor? aim ko lang naman is 1080p gaming. thanks.

Good pa yan sir. Mahirap mag upgrade now dahil damay ram at mobo mo. Kung 1080p gaming kayang kaya pa nyan kahit 1070 pa. Mabobote lng naman yan pag mataas na resolution ka na

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[MENTION=331477]matt8988[/MENTION];
we are here to help the n00bs build/upgrade their PC by recommending a good value for money parts combination.
fortunately, most of us here in this thread that helps other people are concerned that they don't burn their PC, money and maybe their house.

Hahaha! Tagal na natin dito sir intel 3rd gen palang nandito na tyo eh. 9th gen na ngayon haha

Salute sa mga dating kasama natin dito na nawala na. Sila permanentban at iba pa

 

[themonyo]

[MENTION=270241]vheryoness[/MENTION];
parang 2013/2014 lang ako sumali sa thread na to
si @permanentban; hindi pa ba na-ban yun ng tuluyan? yung iba di ko na nakikita dito. tag nga natin para bumisita [MENTION=407220]balmung11[/MENTION]; [MENTION=1814806]nubbest[/MENTION]; [MENTION=719172]rokon1[/MENTION]; [MENTION=402644]cyrhex[/MENTION];
kaway-kaway naman dyan

 

[rokon1]

^
padaan lng... hehe

about sa topic ng PSU yung Vs450 ko 3 yrs na ata.. going strong pa rin

taz yung main pc ko na i5-3470-GTX 1050 nka vs450 rin pero grey ang label suki na ako ni VS haha

 

[cyrhex]

padaan ulit,jajajaja..ang mahal ng ram,.d k mabuobuo coffeelake potato build k

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si nubbest prang d k n nkktang ngpopost dto

 

[hyperdata1]

padaan ulit,jajajaja..ang mahal ng ram,.d k mabuobuo coffeelake potato build k

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si nubbest prang d k n nkktang ngpopost dto

haha hanap ka sir sa TipidPC ng murang DDR4 2400mhz ... sobrang kc mag mahal ang ddr4 na yan

 

[vheryoness]

madaya kasi mga store satin sa pinas, di sila nag paprice down, tulad ng ryzen2 binaba na presyo nun sa US now eh satin ganun pa din, kahit yung ibang ddr4 nag babaan na presyo satin walang pakialam mga store haha, gpu din ganun din potek

 

[cyrhex]

madaya kasi mga store satin sa pinas, di sila nag paprice down, tulad ng ryzen2 binaba na presyo nun sa US now eh satin ganun pa din, kahit yung ibang ddr4 nag babaan na presyo satin walang pakialam mga store haha, gpu din ganun din potek

kya nga ee,,prang ayaw k ng ituloy tong coffelake build ko,,sa sobrang mahal ng ram,,back 2015 700 lng kuha k sa 1866 hyperx ddr3,grabe tinaas sa presyo 220 percent,,d mkatarungan

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ok lng sna kng mga 1600 to 1700 si ddr4 2400 ghz

 

[themonyo]

ah yes 2015/2016, yung 8gb ram nasa 3200~3500 lang ang single channel stick
may mga 4gb stick na around 2200 lang
i don't know kung mas mura pa sa mga retail store lalo na kung cash purchase ang usapan...
last year, ang 8gb dual channel kit nasa 9k~11k

 

[vheryoness]

kya nga ee,,prang ayaw k ng ituloy tong coffelake build ko,,sa sobrang mahal ng ram,,back 2015 700 lng kuha k sa 1866 hyperx ddr3,grabe tinaas sa presyo 220 percent,,d mkatarungan

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ok lng sna kng mga 1600 to 1700 si ddr4 2400 ghz

kung may ibang parts ka na pang coffeelake mo tuloy mo na, ganun talaga presyohan ng ddr4 ram now, dahan dahan na pagbuo lang hehe, balak ko na din palitan tong pc ko, 3rd gen lang gamit ko pero pumapalag pa din naman kahit anong games at task ko, balak ko mag ryzen2 build nlng sa dec hehe

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ah yes 2015/2016, yung 8gb ram nasa 3200~3500 lang ang single channel stick
may mga 4gb stick na around 2200 lang
i don't know kung mas mura pa sa mga retail store lalo na kung cash purchase ang usapan...
last year, ang 8gb dual channel kit nasa 9k~11k

ou ganyan nga, nabili ko yung 2x8gb ko dati 3.5k lng eh, single stick lang ginamit ko tapos binenta ko ng 1.8k yung isang stick, tapos yung presyo ng ddr4 dati mas mura pa sa ddr3 kasi kakalabas pa lang ng skylake, noon konti pa lang pumapansin sa ddr4 haha! tapos biglang bumulusok nlng presyo

medyo bumagsak na pala presyo now ng ddr4 pwede na din

 

[Onee-Chan]

anung specs ang maganda ngaun for computer shop business? kasama monitor 15k per unit

 

[vheryoness]

anung specs ang maganda ngaun for computer shop business? kasama monitor 15k per unit

max na yang budget mo sir? medyo mababa yan eh

kasi kailangan mo din ng maayos ayos na specs kung plan mo mag comshop, madami kang mahahatak na players kung maganda build ng pc mo, pisonet ba to?