Atheists and Agnostics Meeting Place

[jtribaco]

may tanong ako sayo sa previous page di mo pa sinasagot.

ok I hope nagtatanong kalang talaga at hindi hinahanapan ng butas ang evolution,

I'll make it simple, my answer is "human is still evolving but in a very slow process". hindi katulad ng mga hayop na prone sa pabago bagong panahon wala silang shelter walang gamot walang technology. and since evolution is adaptation to environment hindi na masyado apektado ang tao dahil marami na tayong solusyon para makaadopt sa panahon natin ngayon.

I will be waiting for "slow process"... Imagine we can run like leopard, swim like fish in the sea soon to be Super humans
Adaptation natutunan din ng mga hayop for sure they have hibernation for example

 

[theraymex]

@grey_hounds may tanong lang ako... are we still in the process of evolution? if yes what could be the omega point of our evolution? just asking lang.. i'm not into debate, i just want to know your opinion.
your answer will be highly appreciated...

wag pare, kill joy ka naman. hahaha

 

[hackerz14]

@grey_hounds you mention that evolution is adaptation to the environment but in this modern day living we need some serious adjustments to help us with today's stressors. And when the natural physiologic reaction of fight or flight in man is blocked, diseases are likely to occur. In what way do we evolve now to adapt this modern day? Do we evolve again into a higher species? If environmental changes that occur is out of our control to it, is extinction of human race possible?

 

[hackerz14]

wag pare, kill joy ka naman. hahaha

can you be more specific to what is your purporting?

 

[grey_houndz]

@grey_hounds you mention that evolution is adaptation to the environment but in this modern day living we need some serious adjustments to help us with today's stressors. And when the natural physiologic reaction of fight or flight in man is blocked, diseases are likely to occur. In what way do we evolve now to adapt this modern day? Do we evolve again into a higher species? If environmental changes that occur is out of our control to it, is extinction of human race possible?

I don't know sir, there are lot's of studies but I'm not in the field to answer all your queries about evolution, but I know we evolve not to be a higher species but to be a better species.

you can check this articles for your question.
http://www.livescience.com/7971-humans-evolving-brains-shrink.html
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/12/humans-evolving/
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1931757,00.html

 

[theraymex]

can you be more specific to what is your purporting?

nvmr, u did'nt get my humor. bad joke

baka kasi malawan ung mga atheist at agnostic ng trabaho dito sa forum. yun

sorry for my o.t. punchline.

 

[grey_houndz]

^ only shows your insecurities to atheists. wag kanalang magtroll dito bro. maayos na eh eh gugulo kapa.

 

[Xhirako]

padaan...

 

[theraymex]

^ only shows your insecurities to atheists. wag kanalang magtroll dito bro. maayos na eh eh gugulo kapa.

no not really, kung insecure ako sa inyu then direct assault sa topics nalang ginawa ko. Natawa lng talaga ako sa mga tira ni hacker14 Sana walang personalan dito.

 

[Reid Leingod]

Cno kaya ang nagtatago?Halata ngang 2nd account yan nung kung cnu man d2 eh.

Hindi ako nagtatago. Na-ban ang original account ko kaya ito ang ginagamit ko.

Hindi na dapat pinapansin ang taong 'to. Ang kati ng dila. Ang sarap pasakan ng U*** ang bibig.

 

[griffter00]

guys do atheist believe in so called miracles? ask ko lang

 

[Xhirako]

^personally i don't believe in miracles,, imo they are natural incidents currently unknown to science,

 

[aliester]

guys do atheist believe in so called miracles? ask ko lang

all the tales of miracles with which the old and NT are filled are fit
only for impostors to preach and fools to believe. miracle by definition
is an improbable event because any natural explanation is always
more probable than a miraculous explanation(supernatural).

 

[aliester]

excerpt from ehrman vs craig debate:

I don't know if Bill has read [the Life of Apollonius]. They're very interesting;
they are Greek texts; they are widely available. They report Apollonius of Tyana
did many of things that Jesus did; he could cast out demons, he could heal the
sick, he could raise the dead, at the end of his life he ascended to heaven. And
Apollonius of Tyana was just one of the hundreds of people about such things
were said in the ancient world. So if we allow for the possibility of Jesus, how
about allowing the possibility for Apollonius? Or Honi the Circle-Drawer or
Hanina ben Dosa or the Emperor Vespasian? Or you could name the list as long
as your arm of people. Now the reason we don't know about these people is
because, of course, the only miracle-working Son of God we know about is
Jesus. But in fact in the ancient world there are hundreds of people like this,
with hundreds of stories told about them. we discount them because they're
not within our tradition. -ehrman

 

[humility21]

nakalaya din.

 

[aliester]

welcome back @humility

 

[Dru]

I'm a believer of both Religion and Science. I do believe that there's a God and there's evolution. Somewhat contrary diba? Pero dun ako naniniwala. At mahirap i-explain. I don't want to explain.

Anyway I like this thread, nagbabasa din ako ng mga debate dito (yung healthy debate lang )

 

[griffter00]

^personally i don't believe in miracles,, imo they are natural incidents currently unknown to science,

all the tales of miracles with which the old and NT are filled are fit
only for impostors to preach and fools to believe. miracle by definition
is an improbable event because any natural explanation is always
more probable than a miraculous explanation(supernatural).

so in Science i mean sa belief nyo pag hinde nyo ma explain? hinde nyo paniniwalaan..?

So ano masasabi nyo sa alagad ng Syensya tulad ng Doctor na nakaranas nito? are they fools by saying... its a miracle...? natural incident lang din eto? im talking sa lahat ng Doctor sa mundo ah... hinde lang sa pinas...Ex. nabuhay after Declaring dead? wala ng chance kasi nasa stage 3,4 final ng cancer and suddenly gumaling?

gusto ko lang makuha opinion ng nakakarami para maintindihan ko pano kayo tumingin ng bagay...

 

[zinectics]

gusto ko lang makidaan... pwede po ba ako dito deist ako eh

Deism is a natural religion. Deists believe in the existence of God, on purely rational grounds, without any reliance on revealed religion or religious authority or holy text.

i believe that there is a god. i just don't like to believe on the bible and religious craps

 

[Xhirako]

so in Science i mean sa belief nyo pag hinde nyo ma explain? hinde nyo paniniwalaan..?

So ano masasabi nyo sa alagad ng Syensya tulad ng Doctor na nakaranas nito? are they fools by saying... its a miracle...? natural incident lang din eto? im talking sa lahat ng Doctor sa mundo ah... hinde lang sa pinas...Ex. nabuhay after Declaring dead? wala ng chance kasi nasa stage 3,4 final ng cancer and suddenly gumaling?

gusto ko lang makuha opinion ng nakakarami para maintindihan ko pano kayo tumingin ng bagay...

Nope, pag hindi ma-explain, pinag-aaralan, gumagawa ng ways scientifically para malaman, kahit on a slow process lang, hindi nag-ju-jump sa conclusion agad na dahil di ma-explain, something supernatural na agad. Gets?

About sa doctor's, well, it's their own belief. Wala na akong pakialam dun. After all, imo, they are not like scientists. They just apply science on their profession, scientist are the one that is more deeply involved on science, making experiments and observations. Above 90% of scientist are non-believers.

@zinectics - welcome naman lahat dito. Mga theist nga madalas dumaan dito. , deist din ako dati,