Atheists and Agnostics Meeting Place

[Mama Meow]

Ang ibig ko sabihin ay if you are in love, you only just feel it. You do not need to explain it anymore. If marami alam, papaano siya maaapply?

Alam ko iyan. Iyan ang sinabi ni Anne Curtis about definition ng love nang itinanong siya ni Christine Reyes about what is love sa palabas na the genius. Parehas sila matalino at genius. Si Christine ay matalino at humble. Si Anne Curtis ay matalino at ma-pride. Lahat ay sa sobra genius, pati love ay meron scientific explanation. Meron galit si Anne Curtis. Meron siya galit sa sarili niya. Mataas ang ego niya dahil nga inggit na inggit siya kay Christine Reyes. Napanood ko iyon.

Si Christine Reyes nga ay hindi niya na define ang love ng scientific explanation because she wants to feel it.

Si Anne Curtis ay she does not feel anything dahil lahat ay naipapaliwanag niya kahit ultimo definition ng love.

Maganda ang storya ng movie na iyon pero mag best friend ang dalawa. Sa huli, umiyak rin si Anne Curtis na ang role niya ay si Joey or Zoey. I do not remember. Mag best friend. Then mag enemy. Basta, ganda ng movie.

Nag-aral ako. Hindi ko alam kung ano itinutukoy mo aral pero kung mag aaral pa lang ako about afterlife experience ay hindi ko pa nagagawa. Sa iba bansa kase ay meron nun at wala ako pera. Magkasama ang science and afterlife.

 

[lebrante001]

Ang ibig ko sabihin ay if you are in love, you only just feel it. You do not need to explain it anymore. If marami alam, papaano siya maaapply?

Alam ko iyan. Iyan ang sinabi ni Anne Curtis about definition ng love nang itinanong siya ni Christine Reyes about what is love sa palabas na the genius. Parehas sila matalino at genius. Si Christine ay matalino at humble. Si Anne Curtis ay matalino at ma-pride. Lahat ay sa sobra genius, pati love ay meron scientific explanation. Meron galit si Anne Curtis. Meron siya galit sa sarili niya. Mataas ang ego niya dahil nga inggit na inggit siya kay Christine Reyes. Napanood ko iyon.

Si Christine Reyes nga ay hindi niya na define ang love ng scientific explanation because she wants to feel it.

Si Anne Curtis ay she does not feel anything dahil lahat ay naipapaliwanag niya kahit ultimo definition ng love.

Maganda ang storya ng movie na iyon pero mag best friend ang dalawa. Sa huli, umiyak rin si Anne Curtis na ang role niya ay si Joey or Zoey. I do not remember. Mag best friend. Then mag enemy. Basta, ganda ng movie.

Nag-aral ako. Hindi ko alam kung ano itinutukoy mo aral pero kung mag aaral pa lang ako about afterlife experience ay hindi ko pa nagagawa. Sa iba bansa kase ay meron nun at wala ako pera. Magkasama ang science and afterlife.

May scientific explanation ang love and you can feel it as well. You can do both. You can feel and explain it at the same time.

Wag mo ikahon ang depinisyon ng love sa sarili 'mong depinisyon.

Ewan ko ba't napunta na kani Anne Curtis at Cristine Reyes ang usapan, hays.

 

[Mama Meow]

Okay.

Wala na kontrahan but kung ako ang tatanungin mo, hindi ako naniniwala. Galing ako diyan e. Ma-ego ako noon. Unaware ako na ego ang ipina-pairal ko. Unaware kung baga. Nag-eexplain pa ako, kase iyon at iyon lang ang nakikita ng mata ko. Noon.

Ang dami-dami ko napuntahan noon.

Dati ako Catholic. Original.

Naging Atheist ako.
Tapos naging Satanist.
Tapos naging Pagan.
Tapos balik uli sa Deist.
Naging Deist pala ako bago naging Satanist.
Tapos naging Pagan...

Confuse ako noon na hindi ko malaman kung Atheist o hinde.

Sa huli ay naging Deist ako.

Sa dami ng ipinagdaanan ko, ilan years ang iba diyan. Hindi ko nga maibalik ang sarili ko kung ano at kung sino ako noon.

Sabi, know yourself- sa akin. Sabi, marami tao sa buo mundo na literally ay do not know themselves. Sabi, lots of pretense daw. Ignorance sa human society.

Ngayon ko lang natutunan nang natutunan ko a little bit psychology at saka nang nakabasa ako ng mga near death experience and afterlife experience. Andoon lang ako na hit in the head and nagkaroon ng too much fear dahil meron hell near death experience at ang hell near death experience ay variety experience pa iyan like, worms, fire... marami at meron pa nga dark figure at marami iba pa.

Naghahanap kase ako ng truth, kaya lang, if bago natin maharap ang truth ay kailangan- kinakailangan eface natin ang fear kung ano makikita at mababasa. Experience ko iyon.

Meron tayo fear kaya nga hindi ako naniniwala na wala fear ang Atheists daw. Meron greatest fear talaga. Hindi nga lang o ayaw lang harapin because it is block by ego. Kung baga unaware o aware man.

Si bloodsucker ay inamin niya na meron siya ayaw tanggapin. Hindi daw niya tanggap. Kaya nga, hindi lang ako o si bloodsucker. Marami Atheist at hindi ko alam ang iba na katulad din namin.

Ako, naka-relate. Noon kase, meron din ako hindi tanggap. Atheist ako noon.

Sa sobra kaka-practice e ditach ang sarili ko sa nakikita ng mata ko ay unti-unti ko tinatanggap kung ano ang natural na hindi ko control.

Sabi nga, well, unexpected, sabi nga ng afterlife survivor, love yourself at sabi ng isa, forgive yourself, sabi ng isa, do not indulge raw... madami. Tinanggap ko siya then ito na.

Kung saan ako ngayon.

Naniniwala ako na there is God.

Sabi nga sa akin, maiintindihan ko lang daw kung nasa SHOES ko raw sila.

Sagot ko, oo, naiintindihan ko. Siyempre, galing ako noon sa pagiging Atheist e. Iyon pa ang una, bago ako palipat-lipat.

Still, how i wish i was a child.

Innocent sila. Pure and innocent. Ang alam nila is mag love. Love ng love. Oo nga. You know I love you mommy and I love you daddy. Ganun.

Unlike adult, bago mag love is we think muna dahil baka lokohin tayo.

Naalala ko pa noon, hindi dito, tagal na iyon. Sabi ko, ang love is nasa utak lang naman iyan. Haha. Ganun pa nga ang explanation ko sa iba.

Noon as in noon.

 

[CBMyum]

Ang ibig ko sabihin ay if you are in love, you only just feel it. You do not need to explain it anymore. If marami alam, papaano siya maaapply?

Alam ko iyan. Iyan ang sinabi ni Anne Curtis about definition ng love nang itinanong siya ni Christine Reyes about what is love sa palabas na the genius. Parehas sila matalino at genius. Si Christine ay matalino at humble. Si Anne Curtis ay matalino at ma-pride. Lahat ay sa sobra genius, pati love ay meron scientific explanation. Meron galit si Anne Curtis. Meron siya galit sa sarili niya. Mataas ang ego niya dahil nga inggit na inggit siya kay Christine Reyes. Napanood ko iyon.

Si Christine Reyes nga ay hindi niya na define ang love ng scientific explanation because she wants to feel it.

Si Anne Curtis ay she does not feel anything dahil lahat ay naipapaliwanag niya kahit ultimo definition ng love.

Maganda ang storya ng movie na iyon pero mag best friend ang dalawa. Sa huli, umiyak rin si Anne Curtis na ang role niya ay si Joey or Zoey. I do not remember. Mag best friend. Then mag enemy. Basta, ganda ng movie.

Nag-aral ako. Hindi ko alam kung ano itinutukoy mo aral pero kung mag aaral pa lang ako about afterlife experience ay hindi ko pa nagagawa. Sa iba bansa kase ay meron nun at wala ako pera. Magkasama ang science and afterlife.

laughtrip ako dito haha..., wag nyo na po patulan si mama meow, bata pa po ata yan?

 

[Mama Meow]

laughtrip ako dito haha..., wag nyo na po patulan si mama meow, bata pa po ata yan?

Hindi ko alam. Aunti ko, nanonood ng cartoons pero age niya is old na. She loves walt disney. She does not like anime dahil madami violence daw pero yeah, na realize ko, if adult, tulad ko nanonood ng mga violence o gruesome ay nabubulabog siya sa mind but nanonood pa rin ako, haha, ewan ko, negative na nga ay nanonood pa rin ako, attach lang ako, haha, not perfect e but, yeah, mas maganda talaga na think like a child not isip bata- o whatever.

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May scientific explanation ang love and you can feel it as well. You can do both. You can feel and explain it at the same time.

Wag mo ikahon ang depinisyon ng love sa sarili 'mong depinisyon.

Ewan ko ba't napunta na kani Anne Curtis at Cristine Reyes ang usapan, hays.

Para makita mo ang ibig ko sabihin kaya nasali kay Anne Curtis at Christine Reyes dahil nag scientific explanation si Anne Curtis about love. Same kayo nag explanation about love.

Si Anne Curtis ay matalino at ma-pride. Si Christine Reyes ay matalino at humble. Magbest friend sila. Then nag-away. Sa huli si Anne Curtis ang umiyak.

Naiinggit si Anne Curtis sa palabas na iyon dahil mas matalino raw si Christine Reyes sa kanya. Full of hatred siya. The movie is good.

The love is not my own definition. It is from the lists of people who died that went to heaven po then survive. They explain the wonderful feeling daw. The love na nag embrace raw sa kanila. Kaya nga, napasambit ako na God is love. God is universal. Sabi nila. Sa mga Christians, they saw Jesus like a brother. Niyayakap pa daw sila. Marami ako lists on a site. Ayaw ko lang ibigay dahil baka atakehin ako. Alam mo naman diba, they have strong belief na God does not exist pagkatapos ibigay mo siya, baka magalit.

Sila ang nagbibigay information o tips what need to be done. Hanggang ngayon ay buhay pa rin sila at isa doon ay naging idol at inspiration ko.

From now on, nagka interest ako pag aralan ang mga ganun. Sa labas ng bansa ay meron ganun. Sa Pilipinas ay wala. Magbabayad pa. Pagkatapos meron pa conducting survey and experiment. Alam ko ata, nagtatravel pa sa iba iba countries.

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Meron na ngayon organization sa iba-iba religion. Nagkaroon ng join forces to fix the world. Kapag meron sakuna, nagtatravel sila para tumulong. Meron Christian, Catholic, Hinduism, Buddhism at marami iba pa. Nag join forces sila to help fix the world and to create a better place.

Meron din high elite na sobra yaman and I think sa Christian denomination ata who give free scholarship sa mahihirap.

Marami. Hindi ko lang mabanggit ang iba organization dahil para sa akin marami. Hindi sila busy dito sa forum upang magdebate. Busy sila sa charity works at marami iba pa.

Iyon ang nakita ko maganda reality na nagisnan ng mata ko.

 

[YellowDiamond]

I like this thread so entertaining..

The honest answer is we don't have the complete picture right now. The RNA world and protein world hyptheses, although making spectacular advances in understanding how life could arise from nonbiological systems, are still perhaps a few steps away in fully knowing what really happened during those initial conditions that are key to the emergence of life as we know it.


Right now this asymmetry thing is one of the hottest, if not the hottest, field of research in fundamental physics/astrophysics.

@ storm
You are correct and i completely agree with you. I just wish human will figure it out sooner. I really cannot wait. i envy the future generation already.


@mama meow.
I admire you for being vocal. i admire people like you who are open to talk about their faith kasi even though you have (we all have) different belief you are still trying to understand other ideas. di kaya ng powers ko ung mga taong *ah basta*

regarding love. I am a girl like you, I wanted to believe love is magic. but it's not. Love in the beginning is nothing but attraction. science can very well explain what triggers someone to be attracted to one person. i.e. individual genetics, psychological, cultural etc. etc. i can tell you 99% of the time a male gets attracted to a female because of it's biological needs, then comes attachment/addiction after they spend some time together / after the Oxycontin.

 

[bloodsucker]

I like this thread so entertaining..
@ storm
You are correct and i completely agree with you. I just wish human will figure it out sooner. I really cannot wait. i envy the future generation already.

Dude.. don't envy the future. its about money and probably disasters that we have now might be worsen.

 

[Stormer0628]

I like this thread so entertaining..

@ storm
You are correct and i completely agree with you. I just wish human will figure it out sooner. I really cannot wait. i envy the future generation already.

Which makes me wish the crystal balls really do work.

The best among us of course would hope that humanity does figure it out soon before it's too late. The future could go either way, but it just doesn't seem to add up that we could go this far and fizzle out in the end just when we are that close it seems. Saying that, here's to cheering up for the good guys out there to clinch it for humanity in the end.

 

[YellowDiamond]

Dude.. don't envy the future. its about money and probably disasters that we have now might be worsen.

I am not a dude What's wrong with disaster and money, it's inevitable in my opinion as human becomes more and more conscious. no wonder why the god fearing citizen of this world clings on wishful thinking that someone out there will prevent it all to happen.

Which makes me wish the crystal balls really do work.

The best among us of course would hope that humanity does figure it out soon before it's too late. The future could go either way, but it just doesn't seem to add up that we could go this far and fizzle out in the end just whn we are that close it seems. Saying that, here's to cheering up for the good guys out there to clinch it for humanity in the end.

it is never too late, if the earth got destroyed before human discover life itself then I am hopeful that we have already the resources to move in a more sustainable environment.

 

[wattafvcku]

Is anyone else there became an Atheist at a very young age like me? Way back when I was 3 or 4 years old, I already don't believe on god/jesus or any religion. My parents made me study my elementary and highschool days on a catholic school hoping i will be enlightened. In my 10 years studying in that school, I learned a bunch of things about religion, jesus and bible; it's meaning, stories and history. After that, I became more confident that everything the bible says is a total bullshit.

About 2 years ago, I agreed to my girlfriend who is my wife today, that it is ok for me to be converted into her religion just for the sake of our marriage. Also, she wants us to marry on a church and she can't marry me if we are not in the same religion. Whatever happens, she will be loyal to her religion and have faith that god exist. But I really love my wife, she don't care if I believe on god or not. She keeps saying that what's important is I know the right thing to do and what is not. We have a 4months old baby right now, my wife agreed that we can both influence our child after he grow up when it comes to religion even though we have a very different views. In what age do you think is the best time to introduce to my child about my beliefs? Or it is better to let him realize on his own that god doesn't exist without me telling him anything about it.

 

[Stormer0628]

Is anyone else there became an Atheist at a very young age like me? Way back when I was 3 or 4 years old, I already don't believe on god/jesus or any religion. My parents made me study my elementary and highschool days on a catholic school hoping i will be enlightened. In my 10 years studying in that school, I learned a bunch of things about religion, jesus and bible; it's meaning, stories and history. After that, I became more confident that everything the bible says is a total bullshit.

About 2 years ago, I agreed to my girlfriend who is my wife today, that it is ok for me to be converted into her religion just for the sake of our marriage. Also, she wants us to marry on a church and she can't marry me if we are not in the same religion. Whatever happens, she will be loyal to her religion and have faith that god exist. But I really love my wife, she don't care if I believe on god or not. She keeps saying that what's important is I know the right thing to do and what is not. We have a 4months old baby right now, my wife agreed that we can both influence our child after he grow up when it comes to religion even though we have a very different views. In what age do you think is the best time to introduce to my child about my beliefs? Or it is better to let him realize on his own that god doesn't exist without me telling him anything about it.

Many of the hardcore atheists I know mostly came from Catholic/seminary backgrounds, served as altar boys, even held high positions in the Church, hehe. They say insider information do that to you, or the utter nonsense of the bible once you examine it closely. Explains why the Catholic Church never bothered to encourage owning and reading the bible in the past, for fear that their racket would prematurely be found out. Too bad they saw fit to sell and make extensive business of indulgences instead, which is just as negatively impacting as the push not to publish the bible widely.

Some of us just find it easy to see through all the charade and facade of religions and their rituals. Must be about an active and sharp common sense. Even as a young age, as in your case. I myself had to swing from religion to religion before a close look at the bible finally did the trick, haha. Of course it helped that I also had a keen interest in general information, including history, mythology, maths and the sciences.

My true-blue Catholic wife, for some reason, also hates the petty and outdated sermons inside churches. I reckon she listens to many liberal ideas and found the Church's teachings in conflict with many of those liberal ideas she has come to identify with. But I generally have no quibble attending any religious events, so she's happy with that. She knows I'm atheist but easily sees my reasons when we bother to discuss about them. We raise our kids normally, but I reserve to open up serious discussions when they are of age. For now they could have all the religion they need like it were Santa, although I leave hints here and there they would be in for some surprise later on. Haha.

There are many atheist books about raising rational children out there, but I don't want to set up my kids as outsiders among their age groups. I see to it that they develop sharp minds and see through the many sides of an issue before making up their minds. But most especially to detect those who are using sweet talk with a mind to deceive. hahaha

 

[lebrante001]

About 2 years ago, I agreed to my girlfriend who is my wife today, that it is ok for me to be converted into her religion just for the sake of our marriage. Also, she wants us to marry on a church and she can't marry me if we are not in the same religion. Whatever happens, she will be loyal to her religion and have faith that god exist. But I really love my wife, she don't care if I believe on god or not. She keeps saying that what's important is I know the right thing to do and what is not. We have a 4months old baby right now, my wife agreed that we can both influence our child after he grow up when it comes to religion even though we have a very different views. In what age do you think is the best time to introduce to my child about my beliefs? Or it is better to let him realize on his own that god doesn't exist without me telling him anything about it.

The age kung saan may kapasidad na ang bata na unawain ang konsepto ng paniniwala. Don't just introduce your own belief to the child. Introduce your child as well to wide aspects of beliefs so that he can be aware and choose by his own.

Anyway I do apologize for being antagonistic. Di naman talaga ako reader dito instead napadaan lang ako. But it's nice talking with people.

 

[bloodsucker]

I am not a dude What's wrong with disaster and money, it's inevitable in my opinion as human becomes more and more conscious. no wonder why the god fearing citizen of this world clings on wishful thinking that someone out there will prevent it all to happen.





it is never too late, if the earth got destroyed before human discover life itself then I am hopeful that we have already the resources to move in a more sustainable environment.

Did you watch Ancient Aliens?
Some of my theories about humanity came from it.
One of it is we only occupied this planet. Once this destroy we will find another planet to destroy again. HAHA
Which is why I hate most humanity. They don't much care of what they do harm to their environment as long as they earn something.

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Is anyone else there became an Atheist at a very young age like me? Way back when I was 3 or 4 years old, I already don't believe on god/jesus or any religion. My parents made me study my elementary and highschool days on a catholic school hoping i will be enlightened. In my 10 years studying in that school, I learned a bunch of things about religion, jesus and bible; it's meaning, stories and history. After that, I became more confident that everything the bible says is a total bullshit.

About 2 years ago, I agreed to my girlfriend who is my wife today, that it is ok for me to be converted into her religion just for the sake of our marriage. Also, she wants us to marry on a church and she can't marry me if we are not in the same religion. Whatever happens, she will be loyal to her religion and have faith that god exist. But I really love my wife, she don't care if I believe on god or not. She keeps saying that what's important is I know the right thing to do and what is not. We have a 4months old baby right now, my wife agreed that we can both influence our child after he grow up when it comes to religion even though we have a very different views. In what age do you think is the best time to introduce to my child about my beliefs? Or it is better to let him realize on his own that god doesn't exist without me telling him anything about it.

Wow.. What a nice relationship huh.. Good for you bro..
In my own aspect let the kid have more fantasy, let it enjoy life because if he grows old he won't enjoy it as much.
I became an Atheist like 18 years old. but I do enjoy my childhood days also no once tell me that God does not exist I just prove it on my own

 

[solargod]

I grew up in a traditionalists and religious family. I have a feeling na some Atheists grew up in a religious and/or traditionalists family, well, hindi ko alam. Nabasa ko, online, most Atheists are from religious family. I am not sure sa iba Atheists.

Hi Mama Meow, kamusta? ako po, galing po ko sa religiuos family. yung mother side ko po catholic then father side ko INC. Madami akong kamag anak na may katungkulan sa INC, napaka religious nila, pero ahm ano may attitude ganon, kasi feeling nila ang taas taas nila, pero hindi tama yung trato nila sa lahat. Sila ang dahilan ng pagiging atheist ko. hehe na-share ko lang sayo.

 

[YellowDiamond]

Is anyone else there became an Atheist at a very young age like me? Way back when I was 3 or 4 years old, I already don't believe on god/jesus or any religion. My parents made me study my elementary and highschool days on a catholic school hoping i will be enlightened. In my 10 years studying in that school, I learned a bunch of things about religion, jesus and bible; it's meaning, stories and history. After that, I became more confident that everything the bible says is a total bullshit.

About 2 years ago, I agreed to my girlfriend who is my wife today, that it is ok for me to be converted into her religion just for the sake of our marriage. Also, she wants us to marry on a church and she can't marry me if we are not in the same religion. Whatever happens, she will be loyal to her religion and have faith that god exist. But I really love my wife, she don't care if I believe on god or not. She keeps saying that what's important is I know the right thing to do and what is not. We have a 4months old baby right now, my wife agreed that we can both influence our child after he grow up when it comes to religion even though we have a very different views. In what age do you think is the best time to introduce to my child about my beliefs? Or it is better to let him realize on his own that god doesn't exist without me telling him anything about it.

My first memory is when i was 3 or 4. my mother is having a bible study and i remembered i kept on asking dun sa lalaking nagbibible study sa kanya.. I remember telling him *well that's just don't make sense! what are you going to do in heaven? why not we all die so we can go to heaven?*

I think it does not matter what beliefs you introduce to a child and the proof of that is "all of us".
I was force to study the bible and to follow it because i do not want to hurt the feelings of God and if i did hurt his feelings by not accepting him in my life he will burn me alive. but i guess i was not a stupid child. (kahit na stupid adult ako now lol)

Did you watch Ancient Aliens?
Some of my theories about humanity came from it.
One of it is we only occupied this planet. Once this destroy we will find another planet to destroy again. HAHA
Which is why I hate most humanity. They don't much care of what they do harm to their environment as long as they earn something.

My SO love that show... haha we had one big fight because of it one time i just dont agree with all the theory they say.

I do not believe humanity will destroy this planet only to destroy another one. My theory of how this earth will end are rather influence by nature. Either this world becomes colder and colder or hotter and hotter. as the universe expand climate will slowly change. or perhaps a catastrophe like a volcano exploding and influencing the climate like what mount Pinatubo did, or something like that.

Humanity will destroy humanity to achieve the very unity they so longed.

 

[Stormer0628]

May ilan lang din na mahilig sa ancient aliens satin, let me share the story of a Filipino into this, but note that this does not mean any association with nor endorsement of the association or whatever it calls itself, in my part....

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Friendly Chat with a Filipino Raelian Life Guide​

Jacobsen: To begin, what was life like growing up, developing into adulthood?

Kuya Manzano: I was 10 years imprisoned in a Catholic boarding school. So I had ample time to learn how the Bible works and how priests operate. Church in the morning and night, every day.

Jacobsen: How did you find the Raelian movement?

Kuya Manzano: I love controversial people who are brave enough to go against the grain and fight the conservative madness that the Catholic church has dominated the world with. So, I found these crazy Raelians and I started learning more online. Because I am an Activist Atheist and they are too and they are taking real actions around the world.

Jacobsen: What eventually convinced you on the logical coherence and empirical veracity of the faith?

Kuya Manzano: If you read the books by Rael it makes way more sense than any other religion out there. No miracles, no magic, just science, technology.

Empiric is kind of confusing. ‘Cause even the things we think are true, proven through science nowadays, might change. Science is always correcting its mistakes, therefore, science is always wrong. Though it is nicer to stick to science than to magic. Bravo for correcting the scientific theories whenever there is a new truth discovered.

I wasn’t there when the world was created. I wasn’t there when the UFOs abducted Rael. It just makes sense, pretty possible. And fits my logic more than other explanations out there.

Jacobsen: As a way of life, what are its theories about the nature of the world and our origin, and recommended ethic for how we should behave towards one another in the world?

Kuya Manzano: This is the best part and why I embrace the Raelian philosophy, because of the values it brings. Just love one another, give freedom to your partner, be free with sex. We are pro-peace, female rights, gender equality, meditation, health, cloning, automation, happiness.

Everything has a creator, things that happen by accident can’t be so complex as a chair, a computer, a human, a fish.

We believe everything is eternal and infinite and that matter is recycled. And the Elohim, the extraterrestrial race that created us also modified the planet a little and created different kinds of life forms in a laboratory. Same as others did with them before. The process in infinite, cyclical. No beginning and no end.

Jacobsen: Now, your position is “Raelian Life Guide.” What do you do in that capacity? What are some of the downsides of the work that you do, e.g. violent or verbally abusive interactions with people who do not believe and may even be anti-Raelian to an aggressive degree? What are some of the upsides, e.g. personal fulfillment in helping others in some way within the constraints of the Raelian ethic?

Kuya Manzano: As the national guide for the Raelian movement in the Philippines, I can introduce new members, take decisions on actions to be taken by the group, communicate with the international structure.

I find more aggression from the Atheist community than from the Religious one actually. We are an Atheist religion and hope to get respect from both sides though. Some atheists think we replaced gods by aliens but here there is no praying, no worshipping, no commandments (just loving yourself!).

Upsides, I find hundreds. It totally changed my life for the better. We focus on building happiness. A vital need, I see a certain lack within humanity around the world, whatever belief or lack thereof.

We teach how to be happy, healthy, how to meditate, and philosophy – and personally, I even teach people how to be wealthy by applying the Raelian principle of Paradism (paradise on Earth where all work is done by automation and we can just enjoy life).

Jacobsen: Any final thoughts or feelings in conclusion?

Kuya Manzano: I love the Atheist community. I thank you for your activism. I am an activist Atheist since years ago and I personally host many events of different Atheist organizations here in the Philippines.

Before becoming a Raelian, who is an Atheist, I was a regular Atheist for 20 years. Now, I am still an Atheist. I have a life guide that makes me and others happier.


And to follow the social media of the Philippine Raelian movement

https://www.facebook.com/raelianphilippines/
https://twitter.com/raelianpinoy
https://www.instagram.com/raelianpinoy/

Thank you so much for this opportunity.

Love and Infinity!

Jacobsen: Thank you for the opportunity and your time, Kuya Manzano.



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[zeus001]

Let me just answer this...



Good for you then.



Let me give you an example of one of your assumption. Below is an example of an assupmtion.



Facts is not based on faith. You don't need faith to prove that the air is real. You don't need faith to prove that the Sun is real. Facts are real whether you have faith or not. Again assumption na naman.

If something is already proven it becomes a fact. Meron na bang matibay na ebidensya na totoo ang Diyos? Wala, so it's not a fact.

Ang pinaniniwalaa ng mga theists which is God is not yet an established fact that's why it is based on faith.



I already gave you the definition of atheism. You can go back and read it if you'd like.



Again another assumption na naman about atheists in general. If the said information is already proven hindi mo need maging atheist or theist para tanggapin ang information na yon.

For example the Sun being real is a form of information. Kailangan mo ba maging atheist muna bago tanggapin ang information na 'to?



That is your opinion though. Complicated pala ang God at di kayang ipaliwanag scientifically pero kaya 'mong i-explain? Hindi kaya ng science pero kaya mo?



Apparently your knowledge about God is not enough proof of his existence.



God is abstract then biglang God is love? If God is an abstract being he wouldn't possess any kind of emotions like love. You're contradicting yourself.

dude , take it from me your wasting time on this one, pramis, having debated with her before.she wouldnt notice a fly if it was flying directly in front of her eye, if you get my drift
not only is the idea self contradicting

 

[bloodsucker]

My first memory is when i was 3 or 4. my mother is having a bible study and i remembered i kept on asking dun sa lalaking nagbibible study sa kanya.. I remember telling him *well that's just don't make sense! what are you going to do in heaven? why not we all die so we can go to heaven?*

I think it does not matter what beliefs you introduce to a child and the proof of that is "all of us".
I was force to study the bible and to follow it because i do not want to hurt the feelings of God and if i did hurt his feelings by not accepting him in my life he will burn me alive. but i guess i was not a stupid child. (kahit na stupid adult ako now lol)




My SO love that show... haha we had one big fight because of it one time i just dont agree with all the theory they say.

I do not believe humanity will destroy this planet only to destroy another one. My theory of how this earth will end are rather influence by nature. Either this world becomes colder and colder or hotter and hotter. as the universe expand climate will slowly change. or perhaps a catastrophe like a volcano exploding and influencing the climate like what mount Pinatubo did, or something like that.

Humanity will destroy humanity to achieve the very unity they so longed.

hhhmm.. you also have a point

 

[YellowDiamond]

what theory do you guys most likely to believe in?

 

[lebrante001]

what theory do you guys most likely to believe in?

Theory of Gravitation (Theory of General Relativity), Theory of Special Relativity, Quantum Theory, Big Bang Theory, Theory of Evolution, Chaos Theory, Cell Theory, Germ Theory.

Ano pa ba?

On the other hand one does need to believe in theories. One just have to accept it since proven and tested na ang mga scientific theories so belief is already irrelevant in the equation.