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"Bawal Kumain ng BABOY" Utos pa ba ito sa mga Kristiano?
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Actually. kaya naman bawal kainin ang baboy sa OT dahil marumi ito.
pero sa panahon ng mga Kristiano ito ang sabi
Gawa 10:13-14-16: Dumating sa kaniya ang isang tinig: Tumindig ka Pedro. Kumatay ka at kumain. Ngunit sinabi ni Pedro: Hindi maaari, Panginoon, sapagkat kailanman ay hindi ako kumain ng anumang bagay na pangkaraniwan at marumi. Muli niyang narinig ang tinig sa ikalawang pagkakataon: Anumang nilinis ng Diyos ay huwag mong ipalagay na pangkaraniwan.
pero sa panahon ng mga Kristiano ito ang sabi
Gawa 10:13-14-16: Dumating sa kaniya ang isang tinig: Tumindig ka Pedro. Kumatay ka at kumain. Ngunit sinabi ni Pedro: Hindi maaari, Panginoon, sapagkat kailanman ay hindi ako kumain ng anumang bagay na pangkaraniwan at marumi. Muli niyang narinig ang tinig sa ikalawang pagkakataon: Anumang nilinis ng Diyos ay huwag mong ipalagay na pangkaraniwan.
alam mo po ba ang context nyan? paki read pababa pa
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Ipinagbabawal yan sa Lumang tipan, pero sa panahon po naten ay pwde na po. Katunayan e bawat nilalang po ng Dios ay mabuti 1 Timoteo 4:4 "Sapagka't ang bawa't nilalang ng Dios ay mabuti, at walang anomang nararapat na itakuwil, kung tinatanggap na may pagpapasalamat:"
Maliwanag naman pala e, walang dapat itakwil. Ang lahat po ng pagkain ay nilinis na ng Dios, basa...
Marcos 7:19- "Sapagka't hindi pumapasok sa kaniyang puso, kundi sa kaniyang tiyan, at lumalabas sa dakong daanan ng dumi? Sa salitang ito'y nililinis niya ang lahat ng pagkain." Ung baboy, pagkain po ba yon?di po ba ito'y pagkain, so kasama po pala ang baboy sa nilinis ng Dios. At kapag Dios ang naglinis nito, siguradong Hindi ito marumi. Katunayan mababasa sa
Gawa 11: 6-9 "6At nang yao'y aking titigan, ay pinagwari ko, at aking nakita ang mga hayop na may apat na paa sa lupa at mga hayop na ganid at ang mga nagsisigapang at mga ibon sa langit. 7At nakarinig din naman ako ng isang tinig na nagsasabi sa akin, Magtindig ka, Pedro; magpatay ka at kumain.
8Datapuwa't sinabi ko, Hindi maaari, Panginoon: sapagka't kailan man ay walang anomang pumasok sa aking bibig na marumi o karumaldumal.
9Nguni't sumagot na ikalawa ang tinig mula sa langit, Ang nilinis ng Dios, ay huwag mong ipalagay na marumi.
Puro kasi kautusan ni Moises ang sinusunod ng iba e, haha. Sarap kumain ng BABOY mga pare, pero hinay2 lang sa pagkain, baka ma stroke tau haha!
Maliwanag naman pala e, walang dapat itakwil. Ang lahat po ng pagkain ay nilinis na ng Dios, basa...
Marcos 7:19- "Sapagka't hindi pumapasok sa kaniyang puso, kundi sa kaniyang tiyan, at lumalabas sa dakong daanan ng dumi? Sa salitang ito'y nililinis niya ang lahat ng pagkain." Ung baboy, pagkain po ba yon?di po ba ito'y pagkain, so kasama po pala ang baboy sa nilinis ng Dios. At kapag Dios ang naglinis nito, siguradong Hindi ito marumi. Katunayan mababasa sa
Gawa 11: 6-9 "6At nang yao'y aking titigan, ay pinagwari ko, at aking nakita ang mga hayop na may apat na paa sa lupa at mga hayop na ganid at ang mga nagsisigapang at mga ibon sa langit. 7At nakarinig din naman ako ng isang tinig na nagsasabi sa akin, Magtindig ka, Pedro; magpatay ka at kumain.
8Datapuwa't sinabi ko, Hindi maaari, Panginoon: sapagka't kailan man ay walang anomang pumasok sa aking bibig na marumi o karumaldumal.
9Nguni't sumagot na ikalawa ang tinig mula sa langit, Ang nilinis ng Dios, ay huwag mong ipalagay na marumi.
Puro kasi kautusan ni Moises ang sinusunod ng iba e, haha. Sarap kumain ng BABOY mga pare, pero hinay2 lang sa pagkain, baka ma stroke tau haha!
-1 Timothy 4:1-5: “For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving.”
tingnan natin verse by verse ang talata:
(verse 1)
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
(verse 2)
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
(verse 3)
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
take note ang greek word na ginamit dito sa [meat] ay broma ibig sabihin ay [food] pag ang bibliya tinutukoy ay patungkol sa [flesh food] ang translation nyan ay [flesh] example romans 14:21.
ang talata ay hindi tumutokoy sa karne kundi sa mga pagkain na walang karne further evidence makkta sa mga susunud na talata
“which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving.”
What did God create to be received (or eaten) with thanksgiving? It was natural foods, not flesh meat (Genesis 1:29).
Thayer’s Greek Definition defines “broma” as “that which is eaten, food.”
(verse 4)
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
take note ulit:
it says creature hindi animal or beast, there are other greek words na ang translation ay beast kagaya ng ktenos, therion and zoon. None of these are used in this verse
ayun sa strong greek definition the word translated “creature” simply means “a formation, a produce.”
Thayer’s Greek Definition has two meanings for this word:
Thayer Definition:
1) thing founded
2) created thing
We learned with verse 3 that “thing founded” that God created to be received, or eaten was natural foods, and not animal meat.
kung gagawin nyu flesh tlga ang translation which is hindi naman magkakaproblema kau.. kagaya nito:
IT WILL INCLUDE ALL TYPES OF INSECTS!
-If “creature” hear means anything other then natural products of plants, they will be forced to include insects in their reasoning. But, we’re sure they wouldn’t dare say that a spider was created to be eaten; that it is “good and not to be refused.” Shall we add some worm to that plate as well?
It will include THEM!
-ang word na “creature” can also include human being
take note:
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” -Mark 16:15.
“Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.” James 1:18
ngayun sinasabi ba ni paul ay pwd tau kumain din ng tao? kasi kung gagamitin ng literal at hindi titingnan ang greek word translation nyan malaking problema
The only logical conclusion is that Paul is talking about those who would forbid the eating of foods that God originally created for our diet.
(verse 5)
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
take note:
ang word na sanctified sa greek word ay ibig sabihin “make holy.” Notice that it says it is sanctified by “the word of God” and by “prayer,”
This means that the prayer will have to agree with what the word of God says in regards to that food!
Where in the word of God does it teach pork can be made holy for food? Or humans for food?
sa madaling salita hindi lang tau basta basta magdadasal sa kung anu man ang gusto natin kainin,
example
-a venomous spider to then then eat it, because eating a venomous spider, mosquito or any type of forbidden insect is condemned “by the word of God” – Leviticus 11:23. Our prayer should rather be that God sanctify the “broma” of natural foods which is in accordance with the proper diet God wants us to have
Conclusion: The warning in verse 3 is against groups who forbid marriage and to abstain from “foods,” not just flesh meat. Any act (such as eating certain things) that is against the “word of God” is not sanctified simply by prayer. It must be in agreement with Gods word as well.
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
take note:
ang word na sanctified sa greek word ay ibig sabihin “make holy.” Notice that it says it is sanctified by “the word of God” and by “prayer,”
This means that the prayer will have to agree with what the word of God says in regards to that food!
Where in the word of God does it teach pork can be made holy for food? Or humans for food?
sa madaling salita hindi lang tau basta basta magdadasal sa kung anu man ang gusto natin kainin,
example
-a venomous spider to then then eat it, because eating a venomous spider, mosquito or any type of forbidden insect is condemned “by the word of God” – Leviticus 11:23. Our prayer should rather be that God sanctify the “broma” of natural foods which is in accordance with the proper diet God wants us to have
Conclusion: The warning in verse 3 is against groups who forbid marriage and to abstain from “foods,” not just flesh meat. Any act (such as eating certain things) that is against the “word of God” is not sanctified simply by prayer. It must be in agreement with Gods word as well.
Mat 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
tingnan natin ang context hindi lang isang talata ang babasahin natin:
Mat 15:1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
Mat 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
pansinin nag nasa taas na talata patungkol ito sa pag huhugas ng kamay before kumain,
Mat 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
Mat 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
tingnan natin ang context hindi lang isang talata ang babasahin natin:
Mat 15:1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
Mat 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
pansinin nag nasa taas na talata patungkol ito sa pag huhugas ng kamay before kumain,
Mat 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
Mat 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
Act 11:9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
ito po ay isang VISSION ni peter (verse 17). ngayun tingnan natin kung anu tlga kahulugan ng vission ni peter kung hindi natin ito papansinin malaking problema ito kung ito ay gawin literal
papanu na lang ang vission ni daniel patungkol sa mga beast na me mga sungay? magsusulputan ba iyon?
pag sinabi vission symbolic po iyon hindi literal
take note:
(Act 10:10)
And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
(verse 11)
And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
(verse 12)
Wherein were all manner of four footed beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
(verse 13)
And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
(verse 14)
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Take note first, that Peter’s concerned in regards to eating unclean meats proves that Jesus did not abolish the animal laws as some would say.
Peter, who was by birth a Jew, was among the group of disciples they later called “Christians” – Acts 11:26. Yet since he first began to follow Christ he was a Christian since the very word “Christian” simply means “a follower of Christ.” Peter, the Christian, did not believe these health laws were abolished at the cross.
(verse 15)
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
(verse 16)
This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
take note:
tatlong beses na paulit ulit [kill and eat]
bakit tatlong beses sinabi ng pangninoon? notice pagkatapos sa vission ni peter meron TATLONG LALAKI na gusto sya makita (verse 19).
These three men then took Peter to a centurion man named Cornelius (verse 22-23) who was not of the Jewish nation, but was instead Italian (verse 1).
nang dumating si peter sa bahay ni cornelius napansin nyang maraming tao (verse 27).
at ang mga taong ito ay HINDI JEWS..
ang sabi ni peter sa (verse 28) it was not customary for Jews to gather together with people of other nations.
“And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.” -Act 10:28.
It appears that it was when Peter saw this company of non-Jews that he finally understood the vision he had previously seen. The animals he saw in the visions were “unclean” animals, yet Peter gives us the clear understanding that God was talking to him about “man” as verse 28 says; that it, people outside the camp of Israel.
Peter then concludes:
“…of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons.” Acts 10:24.
Peter further declares:
“In every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.” -Act 10:35.
After Peter’s powerful sermon, the Holy Spirit, which fell upon the Jewish disciples at first (Acts 2:4) now fell upon the Gentiles:
“And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.” -Act 10:45.
ang vission ni peter ay hindi patungkol sa pagkain kundi patungkol sa pag preach ng gospel sa ibang nation
taking the gospel news to “all the world” and to “every creature” –Mark 16:15, even to non-Jews.
Conclusion: This chapter teaches how the gospel Peter was preaching to the Jews first, who were common to him, must now be preached among the Gentiles, who were un-common or unclean to Jews. There is no indication that God was trying to teach Peter that he was now allowed to eat anything he’d like. By simply reading further on into the chapter, one can see that this is not the case at all. Peter, the Christian, still believed in the health laws even after the ascension of Christ to heaven.
ito po ay isang VISSION ni peter (verse 17). ngayun tingnan natin kung anu tlga kahulugan ng vission ni peter kung hindi natin ito papansinin malaking problema ito kung ito ay gawin literal
papanu na lang ang vission ni daniel patungkol sa mga beast na me mga sungay? magsusulputan ba iyon?
pag sinabi vission symbolic po iyon hindi literal
take note:
(Act 10:10)
And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
(verse 11)
And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
(verse 12)
Wherein were all manner of four footed beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
(verse 13)
And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
(verse 14)
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Take note first, that Peter’s concerned in regards to eating unclean meats proves that Jesus did not abolish the animal laws as some would say.
Peter, who was by birth a Jew, was among the group of disciples they later called “Christians” – Acts 11:26. Yet since he first began to follow Christ he was a Christian since the very word “Christian” simply means “a follower of Christ.” Peter, the Christian, did not believe these health laws were abolished at the cross.
(verse 15)
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
(verse 16)
This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
take note:
tatlong beses na paulit ulit [kill and eat]
bakit tatlong beses sinabi ng pangninoon? notice pagkatapos sa vission ni peter meron TATLONG LALAKI na gusto sya makita (verse 19).
These three men then took Peter to a centurion man named Cornelius (verse 22-23) who was not of the Jewish nation, but was instead Italian (verse 1).
nang dumating si peter sa bahay ni cornelius napansin nyang maraming tao (verse 27).
at ang mga taong ito ay HINDI JEWS..
ang sabi ni peter sa (verse 28) it was not customary for Jews to gather together with people of other nations.
“And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.” -Act 10:28.
It appears that it was when Peter saw this company of non-Jews that he finally understood the vision he had previously seen. The animals he saw in the visions were “unclean” animals, yet Peter gives us the clear understanding that God was talking to him about “man” as verse 28 says; that it, people outside the camp of Israel.
Peter then concludes:
“…of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons.” Acts 10:24.
Peter further declares:
“In every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.” -Act 10:35.
After Peter’s powerful sermon, the Holy Spirit, which fell upon the Jewish disciples at first (Acts 2:4) now fell upon the Gentiles:
“And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.” -Act 10:45.
ang vission ni peter ay hindi patungkol sa pagkain kundi patungkol sa pag preach ng gospel sa ibang nation
taking the gospel news to “all the world” and to “every creature” –Mark 16:15, even to non-Jews.
Conclusion: This chapter teaches how the gospel Peter was preaching to the Jews first, who were common to him, must now be preached among the Gentiles, who were un-common or unclean to Jews. There is no indication that God was trying to teach Peter that he was now allowed to eat anything he’d like. By simply reading further on into the chapter, one can see that this is not the case at all. Peter, the Christian, still believed in the health laws even after the ascension of Christ to heaven.
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Ipinagbabawal yan sa Lumang tipan, pero sa panahon po naten ay pwde na po. Katunayan e bawat nilalang po ng Dios ay mabuti 1 Timoteo 4:4 "Sapagka't ang bawa't nilalang ng Dios ay mabuti, at walang anomang nararapat na itakuwil, kung tinatanggap na may pagpapasalamat:"
Maliwanag naman pala e, walang dapat itakwil. Ang lahat po ng pagkain ay nilinis na ng Dios, basa...
Marcos 7:19- "Sapagka't hindi pumapasok sa kaniyang puso, kundi sa kaniyang tiyan, at lumalabas sa dakong daanan ng dumi? Sa salitang ito'y nililinis niya ang lahat ng pagkain." Ung baboy, pagkain po ba yon?di po ba ito'y pagkain, so kasama po pala ang baboy sa nilinis ng Dios. At kapag Dios ang naglinis nito, siguradong Hindi ito marumi. Katunayan mababasa sa
Gawa 11: 6-9 "6At nang yao'y aking titigan, ay pinagwari ko, at aking nakita ang mga hayop na may apat na paa sa lupa at mga hayop na ganid at ang mga nagsisigapang at mga ibon sa langit. 7At nakarinig din naman ako ng isang tinig na nagsasabi sa akin, Magtindig ka, Pedro; magpatay ka at kumain.
8Datapuwa't sinabi ko, Hindi maaari, Panginoon: sapagka't kailan man ay walang anomang pumasok sa aking bibig na marumi o karumaldumal.
9Nguni't sumagot na ikalawa ang tinig mula sa langit, Ang nilinis ng Dios, ay huwag mong ipalagay na marumi.
Puro kasi kautusan ni Moises ang sinusunod ng iba e, haha. Sarap kumain ng BABOY mga pare, pero hinay2 lang sa pagkain, baka ma stroke tau haha!
Ipinagbabawal yan sa Lumang tipan, pero sa panahon po naten ay pwde na po. Katunayan e bawat nilalang po ng Dios ay mabuti 1 Timoteo 4:4 "Sapagka't ang bawa't nilalang ng Dios ay mabuti, at walang anomang nararapat na itakuwil, kung tinatanggap na may pagpapasalamat:"
Maliwanag naman pala e, walang dapat itakwil. Ang lahat po ng pagkain ay nilinis na ng Dios, basa...
Marcos 7:19- "Sapagka't hindi pumapasok sa kaniyang puso, kundi sa kaniyang tiyan, at lumalabas sa dakong daanan ng dumi? Sa salitang ito'y nililinis niya ang lahat ng pagkain." Ung baboy, pagkain po ba yon?di po ba ito'y pagkain, so kasama po pala ang baboy sa nilinis ng Dios. At kapag Dios ang naglinis nito, siguradong Hindi ito marumi. Katunayan mababasa sa
Gawa 11: 6-9 "6At nang yao'y aking titigan, ay pinagwari ko, at aking nakita ang mga hayop na may apat na paa sa lupa at mga hayop na ganid at ang mga nagsisigapang at mga ibon sa langit. 7At nakarinig din naman ako ng isang tinig na nagsasabi sa akin, Magtindig ka, Pedro; magpatay ka at kumain.
8Datapuwa't sinabi ko, Hindi maaari, Panginoon: sapagka't kailan man ay walang anomang pumasok sa aking bibig na marumi o karumaldumal.
9Nguni't sumagot na ikalawa ang tinig mula sa langit, Ang nilinis ng Dios, ay huwag mong ipalagay na marumi.
Puro kasi kautusan ni Moises ang sinusunod ng iba e, haha. Sarap kumain ng BABOY mga pare, pero hinay2 lang sa pagkain, baka ma stroke tau haha!
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@ts @kikoy @beehappy
maganda naman ang tanong at mga sagot ninyo..pero paala-ala lang po bawal ang away. Pakisuyong iwasan po nating magbitiw ng masasamang salita. Kung kumbinsido po tayong tama ang ating itinuturo, ipaliwanag natin iyun sa maayus na paraan. Hindi po natin mababago ang paniniwala ng isa sa pamamagitan ng pag-away sa kanila.. kaya relax lang po tayo..,masosolve din po natin ang isyung ito sa mahinahon at maka-Kristiyanong pamamaraan.
Btw, ask ko lang po kung pinaniniwalaan din ba ninyo ang mga sulat ni apostol Pablo. Kasi iyun po ang tutulong sa atin upang masolve ang isyung ito. Naging isyu na rin po kasi ito noong kapanahunan pa nila apostol Pablo. Makatutulong din po sa atin ang pagsasaalang-alang kung papaano nila nalutas ang problemang iyun tungkol sa pagkain.
If you want, im glad to share that bible teachings.
maganda naman ang tanong at mga sagot ninyo..pero paala-ala lang po bawal ang away. Pakisuyong iwasan po nating magbitiw ng masasamang salita. Kung kumbinsido po tayong tama ang ating itinuturo, ipaliwanag natin iyun sa maayus na paraan. Hindi po natin mababago ang paniniwala ng isa sa pamamagitan ng pag-away sa kanila.. kaya relax lang po tayo..,masosolve din po natin ang isyung ito sa mahinahon at maka-Kristiyanong pamamaraan.
Btw, ask ko lang po kung pinaniniwalaan din ba ninyo ang mga sulat ni apostol Pablo. Kasi iyun po ang tutulong sa atin upang masolve ang isyung ito. Naging isyu na rin po kasi ito noong kapanahunan pa nila apostol Pablo. Makatutulong din po sa atin ang pagsasaalang-alang kung papaano nila nalutas ang problemang iyun tungkol sa pagkain.
If you want, im glad to share that bible teachings.
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^@beehappy mabuti naman kung ganun.. Pasensiya na f nasabi kong baka may mag-away na naman sa thread na ito.. kasi naisip ko lang na baka pagmulan ng pagpapalitan ng masasakit na salita ung last post mo para kay kikoy.. sori din f may nsasabi rin akong mali.
^@beehappy mabuti naman kung ganun.. Pasensiya na f nasabi kong baka may mag-away na naman sa thread na ito.. kasi naisip ko lang na baka pagmulan ng pagpapalitan ng masasakit na salita ung last post mo para kay kikoy.. sori din f may nsasabi rin akong mali.
di naman un bad words.. ayuko na kasi mag repost kung ni repost nya sinabi nya nangangahulugan di nya binasa ung post ko hirap pa naman mag type
kaya sinabi ko wag sya tamarin mag basa para maintindihan din nya paliwanag ko
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ah, ok beehappy I understand...
ito lang maishare ko para sa tanong ni TS.. irepost ko na lang dito, kc naipost ko na rin ito sa kabilang thread..
Kaya tulad ni apostle Paul, balanced din po ang viewpoint ko diyan: “Huwag hamakin ng kumakain ang hindi kumakain, at huwag hatulan ng hindi kumakain ang kumakain, sapagkat tinanggap ng Diyos ang isang iyon.” Karagdagan pa, sinabi niya: “Tinanggap din tayo ng Kristo, ukol sa kaluwalhatian ng Diyos.”
Since both the strong and the weak are acceptable to God and Christ, we should have a similarly largehearted attitude and “welcome one another.” (Romans 14:3; 15:7)
ito lang maishare ko para sa tanong ni TS.. irepost ko na lang dito, kc naipost ko na rin ito sa kabilang thread..
Kaya tulad ni apostle Paul, balanced din po ang viewpoint ko diyan: “Huwag hamakin ng kumakain ang hindi kumakain, at huwag hatulan ng hindi kumakain ang kumakain, sapagkat tinanggap ng Diyos ang isang iyon.” Karagdagan pa, sinabi niya: “Tinanggap din tayo ng Kristo, ukol sa kaluwalhatian ng Diyos.”
Since both the strong and the weak are acceptable to God and Christ, we should have a similarly largehearted attitude and “welcome one another.” (Romans 14:3; 15:7)
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^ good point 
personal conviction mo na lang yan kong gusto mo kumain ng Pigging
Some do it for health (iwas HB, others)... others for eating pleasure.
My stand: As much possible I will refrain eating pork dish (even though some food may halo), for health and some Biblical reason.
personal conviction mo na lang yan kong gusto mo kumain ng Pigging Some do it for health (iwas HB, others)... others for eating pleasure.
My stand: As much possible I will refrain eating pork dish (even though some food may halo), for health and some Biblical reason.
Leviticus 11:7-8
And the PIG, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.
And the PIG, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.
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hindi naman po masamang umiwas sa ilang pagkain tulad ng baboy, basta't huwag mo lang pipilitin ang iba na huwag din kumain niyaon . kasi hindi naman napo iyon ang requirements para maligtas..
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hindi naman na po ito bawal sa panahon ng Kristiyanismo, pero siyempre hindi purket hindi bawal eh lalantakin na natin ng todo, hinay hinay lang po para iwas sa mga mabibigat na karamdaman na maaaring idulot nito, pero kung Biblia po ang batayan eh nilinis na po ang mga bagay na ito basta tinatanggap nating may pagpapasalamat.
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paki back read lang sa sinasabi mo na nilinis na at pag tinanggap na me pagpapasalamat.. malaking problema yan kung ganyan pag babatayan mo..
kau na rin nag sabi na marami nakukuha sakit, pag pinag papasalamat mo ba sa panginoon kinakain mo kasama na san katirbang sakit nakukuha mo pinasasalamatan mo din?
ang pagkain hindi naman tlga makakaligtas sa aatin kundi its a matter of healthy living
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