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how did the universe begin?

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In september 2009,a Scientific American devoted a special issue to understanding origins,writer explored the origin of rubber boots,antibiotics,clocks.LSD ,the paper clip etc,whether its gadget ,such as a digital audio player ,or the origin of life itself ,we are naturally intrigued by question of where thing come from,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,while all the topics in the issue were fascinating,one topic seemed to be more pressing and pertinent than all the others-the origin of the universe .the article concludes that the universe began with a big bang 13.7 billion years ago and has been cooling and expanding ever since .event thought other models excist ,the standard big bang model is the most widely accepted and reasonable explanation for the origin of the origin universe ,and it raises crucial question:what led to big bang ?.FURTHERMORE ,does the big bang undermine or suppor biblical doctrine of creation?


For nearly fifty years ,Athony Flew was the world's leading academic atheist ,in 2003 Flew made made a shocking announcement he become theist,primarily beacause of scientific advancements regarding the origin and nature of universe ,IN his book ,THERE IS a GOD:how the world's most notorious atheist changed his mind,Flew account for how the BIG BANG influenced himself
 
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In september 2009,a Scientific American devoted a special issue to understanding origins,writer explored the origin of rubber boots,antibiotics,clocks.LSD ,the paper clip etc,whether its gadget ,such as a digital audio player ,or the origin of life itself ,we are naturally intrigued by question of where thing come from,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,while all the topics in the issue were fascinating,one topic seemed to be more pressing and pertinent than all the others-the origin of the universe .the article concludes that the universe began with a big bang 13.7 billion years ago and has been cooling and expanding ever since .event thought other models excist ,the standard big bang model is the most widely accepted and reasonable explanation for the origin of the origin universe ,and it raises crucial question:what led to big bang ?.FURTHERMORE ,does the big bang undermine or suppor biblical doctrine of creation?


For nearly fifty years ,Athony Flew was the world's leading academic atheist ,in 2003 Flew made made a shocking announcement he become theist,primarily beacause of scientific advancements regarding the origin and nature of universe ,IN his book ,THERE IS a GOD:how the world's most notorious atheist changed his mind,Flew account for how the BIG BANG influenced himself

search ko nga yung book nya. mukang interesting.
 
Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
 
Agree ako scietifically BIG BANG ang start ng universe.

When God said, "LET THERE BE LIGHT" and there was BIG BANG.
 
Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Boss meron lang pong kunting flaws sa creation ng genesis. ie:
* @ 1st day gumawa ng liwanag ang creator [3]
* pero nung 4th day nya na ginawa yung sun, moon & stars [16] (kaya hindi maiiwasang sumagi sa isip ng isang tao yung tanong na"saan galing yung liwanag nung 1st day?" "naging luminous ba or naging parang bumbilya ba yung creator? "pano na define yung darkness @ light, eh hindi pa na cre-create yung source of light?" )
* @ bakit 3 days ginawa ng creator yung earth vs. sun, moon & stars na ginawa nya lang nung 4th day or 1 day lang (na base sa pag aaral ang sun ay isang uri ng star na maaring bawat bituin ay merong system na katulad sa solar system natin. at merong tayong bilyon-bilyong "times" infinite star o sun sa galaxy(milky way) natin @ kahit i rate pa po natin sa pinakamababang pursyento na 1% lang ang merong system per star ay aabot parin ng bilyon "times" infinite. kumbaga ang earth ay gabutil lang ng isang dakot na buhangin sa buong kalawakan w/c is infinite.
kaya maiisip mo pong tao lang talaga ang gumawa ng kwento about sa creation, sa librong genesis. na napatingingala siguro isang gabi/araw @ ini assume ng writer na ang mga stars, moon @ sun ay mas maliit sa earth)
* & many more
 
In september 2009,a Scientific American devoted a special issue to understanding origins,writer explored the origin of rubber boots,antibiotics,clocks.LSD ,the paper clip etc,whether its gadget ,such as a digital audio player ,or the origin of life itself ,we are naturally intrigued by question of where thing come from,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,while all the topics in the issue were fascinating,one topic seemed to be more pressing and pertinent than all the others-the origin of the universe .the article concludes that the universe began with a big bang 13.7 billion years ago and has been cooling and expanding ever since .event thought other models excist ,the standard big bang model is the most widely accepted and reasonable explanation for the origin of the origin universe ,and it raises crucial question:what led to big bang ?.FURTHERMORE ,does the big bang undermine or suppor biblical doctrine of creation?


For nearly fifty years ,Athony Flew was the world's leading academic atheist ,in 2003 Flew made made a shocking announcement he become theist,primarily beacause of scientific advancements regarding the origin and nature of universe ,IN his book ,THERE IS a GOD:how the world's most notorious atheist changed his mind,Flew account for how the BIG BANG influenced himself

Okay, for fun's sake, let's assume that Flew did indeed become a deist. The question is: do you even have the slightest idea what kind of god, or concept of god, he finally surrendered his increasingly deteriorating brain matter to? No? Then you must search for Aristotle's god: that Unmoved Mover or Prime Mover who cares not an iota about anything outside of itself or the universe or the world or what color you will give each of your toenail for that matter. How's that? Aristotle's god is not your ordinary god. It is beyond being affected or actively affecting anything. All it ever does is contemplate about itself. Nothing else. Now tell me, would you like this god? :lol: :lol:
 
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How did the universe or the world began?
On this question a counter question is considerably necessary to cater what type person wanrts to know the answer.
If its for the non religious type the scientific answer should be considered, if a believer then a God based creation should be consider.
Well in respect to the thread, its up for them to stand for their belief. I would like to share this verse, John 3:16. Just believe and let it grow..its Holy Thursday today,02apr2015.
 
Boss meron lang pong kunting flaws sa creation ng genesis. ie:
* @ 1st day gumawa ng liwanag ang creator [3]
* pero nung 4th day nya na ginawa yung sun, moon & stars [16] (kaya hindi maiiwasang sumagi sa isip ng isang tao yung tanong na"saan galing yung liwanag nung 1st day?" "naging luminous ba or naging parang bumbilya ba yung creator? "pano na define yung darkness @ light, eh hindi pa na cre-create yung source of light?" )
* @ bakit 3 days ginawa ng creator yung earth vs. sun, moon & stars na ginawa nya lang nung 4th day or 1 day lang (na base sa pag aaral ang sun ay isang uri ng star na maaring bawat bituin ay merong system na katulad sa solar system natin. at merong tayong bilyon-bilyong "times" infinite star o sun sa galaxy(milky way) natin @ kahit i rate pa po natin sa pinakamababang pursyento na 1% lang ang merong system per star ay aabot parin ng bilyon "times" infinite. kumbaga ang earth ay gabutil lang ng isang dakot na buhangin sa buong kalawakan w/c is infinite.
kaya maiisip mo pong tao lang talaga ang gumawa ng kwento about sa creation, sa librong genesis. na napatingingala siguro isang gabi/araw @ ini assume ng writer na ang mga stars, moon @ sun ay mas maliit sa earth)
* & many more

Pwedeng yung source ng light nung 1st day is hindi sun. pwedeng isang malaking liwanag lang na bumalot sa mundo. Saka naisipan ng Diyos lagyan ng araw at buwan para ihiwalay ang liwanag sa dilim?. Saka kaya tatlong araw ginawa ang mundo dahil gusto nyang maging kakaiba ito at maganda sa paningin nya? Para din mabuhay ang sino mang nilikha nya na titira dito? Kaya wala pa tayong mahanap na kagaya ng mundo natin ngayon dahil kakaiba to at pinagisipan mabuti ng Diyos.
 
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Boss meron lang pong kunting flaws sa creation ng genesis. ie:
* @ 1st day gumawa ng liwanag ang creator [3]
* pero nung 4th day nya na ginawa yung sun, moon & stars [16] (kaya hindi maiiwasang sumagi sa isip ng isang tao yung tanong na"saan galing yung liwanag nung 1st day?" "naging luminous ba or naging parang bumbilya ba yung creator? "pano na define yung darkness @ light, eh hindi pa na cre-create yung source of light?" )
* @ bakit 3 days ginawa ng creator yung earth vs. sun, moon & stars na ginawa nya lang nung 4th day or 1 day lang (na base sa pag aaral ang sun ay isang uri ng star na maaring bawat bituin ay merong system na katulad sa solar system natin. at merong tayong bilyon-bilyong "times" infinite star o sun sa galaxy(milky way) natin @ kahit i rate pa po natin sa pinakamababang pursyento na 1% lang ang merong system per star ay aabot parin ng bilyon "times" infinite. kumbaga ang earth ay gabutil lang ng isang dakot na buhangin sa buong kalawakan w/c is infinite.
kaya maiisip mo pong tao lang talaga ang gumawa ng kwento about sa creation, sa librong genesis. na napatingingala siguro isang gabi/araw @ ini assume ng writer na ang mga stars, moon @ sun ay mas maliit sa earth)
* & many more


Good question.

Before proceeding to answer this question there are few things that I wanted to establish:
(1) The length of "Day" in Genesis is not merely a 24 day. Sa Genesis 1:5, sabi ng Diyos, na hinati nya ang araw sa maliliit na araw... tinawag nyang ang liwanag bilang araw at ang dilim bilang gabi. Sa Genesis 2:4 yung buong 6 days ng creation ay tinuring nyang isang "Araw". Sa hebrew ang salitang araw ay maraming kahulugan... peding 24 hrs, pede tin namang period of time na may special event na nagaganap. Halimbawa ang buhay ng isang tao (pagpalagay ng mga 60 years) can also be called araw ng buhay nya.
(2) The way the bible is written is on the standpoint of a writter is seeing the event... Not on God's view. So events describe would be as if you are in a place where it is taking place...
(3) The bible creation talks about how God prepared the Earth for human habitat... it does not talk about how the whole universe was created. Although at Genesis 1:1 it simply state to show tha God created the whole universe: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth". Note of 2 things, in the verse, heavens is plural and earth is singular. After stating that God created the heavens and the earth, it also mentioned on verse 2 that the earth was formless (void) and dessolated, it then proceeded in showing how the earth was prepared for human habitat.

Now that That is out of the way....

Firstday
"'Let light come to be', Then there came to be light. And God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a first day." (Gen 1:3,5).

The Sun and the moon were already created prior to "first day" but their light did not yet reach the surface of the earth for an earthly observer to see. Now, light became visible but not yet very clear perhaps because of fogs, dust and small particles, etc. hence the light seen here is a diffused light over an overcast. Apparently the light came gradually and not instantly.

(I am gonna skip all the other days of creation to make this reply as short as posible and will only show the event being asked)

Second Day
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Third day
.....

Fourth Day

“‘Let luminaries come to be in the expanse of the heavens to make a division between the day and the night; and they must serve as signs and for seasons and for days and years. And they must serve as luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth.’ And it came to be so. And God proceeded to make the two great luminaries, the greater luminary for dominating the day and the lesser luminary for dominating the night, and also the stars.”—Genesis 1:14-16; Psalm 136:7-9.

Previously, on the first “day,” the expression “Let light come to be” was used. The Hebrew word there used for “light” is?’ohr, meaning light in a general sense. But on the fourth “day,” the Hebrew word changes to ma·’ohr′, which means the source of the light. On the first “day” diffused light evidently penetrated the swaddling bands, but the sources of that light could not have been seen by an earthly observer because of the cloud layers still enveloping the earth. Now, on this fourth “day,” things apparently changed.

An atmosphere initially rich in carbon dioxide may have caused an earth-wide hot climate. But the lush growth of vegetation during the third and fourth creative periods would absorb some of this heat-retaining blanket of carbon dioxide. The vegetation, in turn, would release oxygen—a requirement for animal life.

Now, had there been an earthly observer, he would be able to discern the sun, moon and stars, which would “serve as signs and for seasons and for days and years.” (Genesis 1:14) The moon would indicate the passing of lunar months, and the sun the passing of solar years. The seasons that now “came to be” on this fourth “day” would no doubt have been much milder than they became later on.—Genesis 1:15; 8:20-22.

Fifth Day
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Sixth Day
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Seventh Day
....

If you wanted to see the full explanation with regards to the Genesis' "Days of Creation" please follow this link:
Genesis' "DAYS of CREATION" in light of Scientific view

For further information about the creative days of the bible, please visit this site:

The Untold Story of Creation
Creation
Science and the Genesis Account
 
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In september 2009,a Scientific American devoted a special issue to understanding origins,writer explored the origin of rubber boots,antibiotics,clocks.LSD ,the paper clip etc,whether its gadget ,such as a digital audio player ,or the origin of life itself ,we are naturally intrigued by question of where thing come from,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,while all the topics in the issue were fascinating,one topic seemed to be more pressing and pertinent than all the others-the origin of the universe .the article concludes that the universe began with a big bang 13.7 billion years ago and has been cooling and expanding ever since .event thought other models excist ,the standard big bang model is the most widely accepted and reasonable explanation for the origin of the origin universe ,and it raises crucial question:what led to big bang ?.FURTHERMORE ,does the big bang undermine or suppor biblical doctrine of creation?


For nearly fifty years ,Athony Flew was the world's leading academic atheist ,in 2003 Flew made made a shocking announcement he become theist,primarily beacause of scientific advancements regarding the origin and nature of universe ,IN his book ,THERE IS a GOD:how the world's most notorious atheist changed his mind,Flew account for how the BIG BANG influenced himself

its false bro naniwala ka naman don diba noong 2012 sabi nila its end of the world ahaha gung gong talaga ang nag sabi nun na scientist walang nakaka alam na tao kung kailan ginawa ang mundo at ilang taon na ito at lalong walang nakaka alam kailan magugunaw ang mundo tandaan mo yan maliban sa allah.
 
ang tanong sino sumulat ng genesis? diba mga apostoles angsumulatsa bible? eh sinong apostol ang sumulat ng genesis? ang galing naman at napaka ditalyado ng pag kakasulat
 
ang tanong sino sumulat ng genesis? diba mga apostoles angsumulatsa bible? eh sinong apostol ang sumulat ng genesis? ang galing naman at napaka ditalyado ng pag kakasulat


kung ganun alin ang mas katanggap tanggap dun yong balita na galing sa panginoon at isinulat ito ng mga propeta o ang scientist na hindi naman nito nakikita
kung baga isipan lamang.kahit animg gawin ng tao hidni masusukat ng katalinuhan niya kung kailan ginawa ang mundo at kailan ito magugunaw kapatid ^^
 
kung ganun alin ang mas katanggap tanggap dun yong balita na galing sa panginoon at isinulat ito ng mga propeta o ang scientist na hindi naman nito nakikita
kung baga isipan lamang.kahit animg gawin ng tao hidni masusukat ng katalinuhan niya kung kailan ginawa ang mundo at kailan ito magugunaw kapatid ^^


hindi rin... sa totoo lang, kaya existing ang bible dahil sa faith. saka lahat ng religion negosyo lang... sige paliwanag mo mabuti genesis kung sino sumulat nun at maniniwala ako sa bible... saka eto pa maliban sa bible san pa existing si christ at god?
 
Nagexist ang bible hindi lang dahil sa faith. Paano mo nasabi na lahat eh negosyo lang? Meron pang ibang libro nababanggit sila.
 
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