Speaking In Tongue Umiiral Pa Rin Ba?

[BenjaminG]

May mga relihiyon na nagsasabi na ang speaking in tongue ay lipas na raw at hindi na umiiral sa ngayon. Tutuo ba?

Kasi ako ng ipanalangin ng isang pastor na pumunta sa bahay namin para mag bible study. Nang ipanalangin niya ako, yung bibig ko bigla na lang gumalaw ay nagsasalita mag isa. nag iisip ako kung ano yon dahil hindi ko naman naiintindihan.

Ang sabi sa akin ng pastor, speaking in tongue. Ang sabi sa akin maganda daw na kaloob yan dahil palalakain daw nito ang aking espiritu.

At sa pagkakatipon sa mga born-again. Nakikita ko ang iba ay naggsasalita rin ng mga wika na hindi ko maintindihan. Eh ang misis ko ganon rin, nagsalita rin ng wika. Kaya nga kapag tinatanong ko siya kung naiintindihan ba niya ang pinagsasabi niya. ang sabi niya ay hindi.

Kaya tutuo pala ang speaking in tongue.

1Co 14:2 Sapagka't ang nagsasalita ng wika ay hindi sa mga tao nagsasalita, kundi sa Dios; sapagka't walang nakauunawa sa kaniya; kundi sa espiritu ay nagsasalita ng mga hiwaga.

Kaya pala hindi ko maunawaan at hindi rin maunawaan ng misis ko dahil ang espiritu pala ang nakikipag usap sa Dios.

Kaya ba naka experience na magsalita ng speaking in tongue?

Kasi may nagtuturo na lipas na raw. Kaya sa relihiyon nila, walang kaloob na magsalita ng wika na pakikipagusap sa Dios.

1Co 14:2 Sapagka't ang nagsasalita ng wika ay hindi sa mga tao nagsasalita, kundi sa Dios; sapagka't walang nakauunawa sa kaniya; kundi sa espiritu ay nagsasalita ng mga hiwaga.
1Co 14:3 Datapuwa't ang nanghuhula ay nagsasalita sa mga tao sa ikatitibay, at sa ikapangangaral, at sa ikaaaliw.
1Co 14:4 Ang nagsasalita ng wika, ay nagpapatibay sa sarili; nguni't ang nanghuhula ay nagpapatibay sa iglesia.
1Co 14:5 Ibig ko sanang kayong lahat ay mangagsalita ng mga wika, datapuwa't lalo na ang kayo'y magsipanghula: at lalong dakila ang nanghuhula kay sa nagsasalita ng mga wika, maliban na kung siya'y magpapaliwanag upang ang iglesia ay mapagtibay.

Kung papansinin ang sinasabi ni Pablo napakahalaga rin na makapagsalita ng wika dahil patitibayin ang iyong sarili. pero nakakahigit pa rin ang panghuhula. Pero walang sinasabi si Pablo na huwag ng nasain. Pero mas dakila kung ang pagsasalita ng wika ay naipapaliwanag mo rin sa ikapapakinabang ng iglesia.

 

[lrdjb23]

yes po sir yan po ang ginagamit ko rin...

 

[danhiel024]

Pls read:
The Apostolic Signs and Wonders
In Mark 16:17-18, Jesus said to the Apostles, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
Because of their inability and refusal to rightly divide the word of truth (II Tim. 2:15), the Charismatics operate under the false assumption that these signs are still in effect today and that it is THEIR duty to fulfill them.
This is why we have charlatans like Oral Roberts and Jim Baker living in mansions and begging people for money. In their haste to make a dollar, the Charismatics consistently ignore the fact that Jesus said these were SIGNS, and that I Corinthians 1:22 tells us that SIGNS are for the JEWS. Israel began with signs (Rom. 4:11; Exo. 4:8 ,9, 17, 23, 28, 30; 7:3; 8:23; 10:1-2; 13:9; 31:13, 17; Deu. 4:34; 6:22), lived by signs (Deu. 11:18; Jos. 4:6; I Sam. 10:7; II Kgs. 19:29; Isa. 7:14; 38:7, 22; Eze. 4:3; 20:12, 20), and demanded signs from Christ (Mat. 12:38; 24:3). There is more scripture to support the doctrine of signs being for Israel than there is to support the Virgin Birth and the Inspiration of Scripture combined! Anyone who ignores this truth is absolutely unqualified to teach, preach, or write anything about the Apostolic Signs. If you'll take a look at Hebrews 2:3-4 you will see that the signs were used to CONFIRM the word of God, and you will also see that the signs are spoken of in the PAST TENSE. They are also spoken of in the past tense in II Corinthians 12:12. Those who insist that we should practice the signs today because they were practiced throughout the New Testament haven't been reading (or believing) their Bible. They were not practiced throughout the New Testament. In fact, Paul left Trophimus SICK at Miletum (II Tim. 4:20); he gave Timothy medical advice instead of healing him (I Tim. 5:23), and he had infirmities of his own from which he could not be healed (II Cor. 11:30; 12:5-10). Now why all this sickness if the Apostolic Signs were still in effect? Answer: They WEREN'T still in effect, because they were only needed in the early ministry of the Apostles for the purpose of confirming the truth to Israel. Now we firmly believe that God can still work miracles and heal anyone He chooses, and we believe that the prayers of God's people can move Him to work miracles, but let's not confuse answered prayers with Apostolic Signs, because there's a vast difference. We believe in healing; we just don't believe in healers. You say, "Well what about speaking in unknown tongues through the Holy Ghost? Do you deny that people today speak in unknown tongues?" No, of course not. People have spoken in unknown tongues for thousands of years. Ever read Genesis 11? Was that an outpouring of the Holy Ghost? When the Church of Satan speaks in unknown tongues (which they do), is that a work of the Holy Ghost? When a psychologist can have you blubbering in unknown tongues within fifteen minutes, is that an outpouring of the Holy Ghost? You see, too many people have the idea that if something is highly abnormal or miraculous that it MUST be of God. The coming Antichrist will have a field day with such feeble minded people, because HE will work such "signs and lying wonders" that the entire world will follow after him (II Ths. 2:8-12; Rev. 13:13-14). Nowhere in the New Testament did God command anyone to speak with unknown tongues. We do read about "new tongues" (Mar. 16:17), "other tongues" (Acts 2:4) and "divers kinds of tongues" (I Cor. 12:10), but these are all FOREIGN LANGUAGES, not senseless gibberish! There are no unknown tongues in Acts 2, and there is no baptism of the Holy Ghost in I Corinthians 14. Instead of rightly dividing the word of truth, the careless Charismatics wrest the scriptures to their own destruction by ignoring the set divisions and doctrines that the Holy Spirit has inspired in the scriptures. The Apostolic Signs are not for today, because they were only for confirming the word of God to the unbelieving Jews in the first century. The Bible warns us to beware of anyone who professes to practice these signs today (II Cor. 11:13-15; Mat. 7:15; 24:11; I Tim. 4:1-2), and the Lord commends the church at Ephesus for trying out some professing apostles and finding them to be LIARS (Rev. 2:2).

 

[maseej]

TS pagpray mo nga ako... nagtaasan kasi kami ng boses ng nanay ko, napuno na kasi ako sa kanya.. i know na mali iyon at hinayaan kong magkaroon ng galit sa puso ko, sadyang hindi lang talaga ako naging dependent kay God that time. Wisdom, forgiveness kay God, at Strength na magsorry kay mama po TS ung pagprapray n'yo salamat!

 

[faustus4]

haha storya! storya! storya!

 

[junex1990]

speaking in tongue is a gift from the Holy Spirit ,, pero hindi lahat may gift na ganyan ,,,there are many gift of the Holy spirit ,,isa lang yan...sa mga gift.

Please watch this .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbjg2jCp0gs

city harvest church, almost all video in City harvest... using speaking in tongue

hope it helps ...

 

[vjmm]

,note: hindi lahat ng speaking in tounge ay mula kay Lord, ang iba,dyan ay by Flesh,. Hindi natin yan ma jjudge, ikw lng nakaka alam nyan,at si Lord..
,. But if we take a look to the scriptures, ang lahat ng nag tounges ay mga ,baguhan sa pananampalataya,. O nag papalago ng kanyan faith..
=tama un,dapat may magpaliwanag,or manahimik nlng...

=magingat tayo, baka,hndi natin alam, hindi na pala tounges kundi by flesh lng.. Dinadaya lng natin ang ating sarili..
,pero kung,mula tlga kay LORD,praise God.. Because Gal.5:22-23 ".the fruit of holy spirit is LOVE... The last is TEMPERANCE", pag wala ka sa kuntrol, abah..! Mag-isip isip na tayo,baka iba na ang may kuntrol nyan, hehe.. I'm just sayin the truth here..

,God bless broh..

 

[mestibu]

I can't truly judge if speaking in tounge is still in force today. But the existence of which is not a question since since God can do everything.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

anung religion yung nag e speaking-in-tounge? Kasi may live na narinig ko fellowship nila sa radio at di ko talaga maintindihan yung words. At yung purpose ng pag e "speaking- n' -tounge" na yan

 

[mestibu]

anung religion yung nag e speaking-in-tounge? Kasi may live na narinig ko fellowship nila sa radio at di ko talaga maintindihan yung words. At yung purpose ng pag e "speaking- n' -tounge" na yan

Actually sa Christians po ito. More common sa mga born again christians.

Pero linawin ko lang po, hindi lahat ng born again christians ay nag sspeak in toungue.

Main purpose po nito ay noong unang Pentecost sa Jerusalem. Nagspeak in tongue po ang mga Apostol noon sa Jerusalem para maintindihan sila ng mga taga ibang lugar/bansa na naroron sa Jerusalem upang ipangaral ang Salita ng Diyos ukol sa kaligtasan sa pamamagitan ni Jesus.

 

[shockproof]

di ko pa na experience.gusto ko ma experience

 

[vjmm]

Tama si mistibu..Un ang tunay na purpose,.At mapapansin, ang peak n toungue ay nauunawaan or may nakakaunawa,hindi ung, walang nakakaunawa at nag papaliwanag, at masaklap pa! Hindi na MAKUNTROL SA FLOOR ung iba? Is that biblical? Is that the fruit of holy spirit? Or ibng spirit?A counterfiet? Saan sa bible ang ganun,? Everytime we encounter the holy spirit,there is biblical proof.. Sapagkat
Gal 5:22-23= the gift of the holy spirit right?
_but mag focus tayo sa last which is temperance/pagpipigil sa sarili,

ok stick to the topic,speak n toungues:

lets read this plz:
1Co 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

1Co 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
1Co 14:27 Kung nagsasalita ang sinoman ng wika, maging dalawa, o huwag higit sa tatlo, at sunodsunod; at ang isa'y magpaliwanag:
1Co 14:27 If someone speaks in a tongue, it should be two, or at the most three, one after the other, and someone must interpret.
1Co 14:27 If any man speaketh in a tongue, let it be by two, or at the most three, and that in turn; and let one interpret:

=bkt "salitan o hali-halili sila o sunodsunod"? KUNTROLADO ATA NILA? Tama ka!! pero hindi natin ma jjudge, inuulit ko..
1Co 14:31 Sapagka't kayong lahat ay makapanghuhulang isa-isa, upang ang lahat ay mangatuto, at ang lahat ay maaralan;
1Co 14:32 At ang mga espiritu ng mga propeta ay nasasakupan ng mga propeta;
1Co 14:33 Sapagka't ang Dios ay hindi Dios ng kaguluhan, kundi ng kapayapaan. Gaya sa lahat ng mga iglesia ng mga banal,

1Co 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.


the word subjected:
G5293
ὑποτάσσω
hupotassō
hoop-ot-as'-so
From G5259 and G5021; to subordinate; reflexively to obey: - be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.

"be under obedience (obedient)"..



to shockproof:broh para sau to, hehe
1Co 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
1Co 14:39 Kaya nga, mga kapatid ko, maningas na pakanasain ninyong makapanghula, at huwag ninyong ipagbawal ang magsalita ng mga wika.

G4395
προφητεύω
prophēteuō
prof-ate-yoo'-o
From G4396; to foretell events, divine, speak under inspiration, exercise the prophetic office: - prophesy.

"it means the Word of GOD"..
,.Word of God ang pakanaisin natin,but hindi naman masama iyon, laht ng desire ay galing kay Lord..At masaya sya kung hinahanap mo Siya ng buo mung puso.

God bless u mga broh.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Actually sa Christians po ito. More common sa mga born again christians.

Pero linawin ko lang po, hindi lahat ng born again christians ay nag sspeak in toungue.

Main purpose po nito ay noong unang Pentecost sa Jerusalem. Nagspeak in tongue po ang mga Apostol noon sa Jerusalem para maintindihan sila ng mga taga ibang lugar/bansa na naroron sa Jerusalem upang ipangaral ang Salita ng Diyos ukol sa kaligtasan sa pamamagitan ni Jesus.

naiintindihan ba ng mga born again christians na gumagawa nito yung ibig sabihin nung ini speak in tounge nila or menimemorize or binabasa lang para i speak in tounge. Kasi kaming mga katoliko din daw noon ay latin ang linguwahe sa misa at sumasagot din daw ng latin yung nag mimisa kahit di alam yung meaning ng latin

 

[loloytisoy]

Umiiral pa hanggat di pa bumabalik si Jesus.

 

[Dave0928]

naiintindihan ba ng mga born again christians na gumagawa nito yung ibig sabihin nung ini speak in tounge nila or menimemorize or binabasa lang para i speak in tounge. Kasi kaming mga katoliko din daw noon ay latin ang linguwahe sa misa at sumasagot din daw ng latin yung nag mimisa kahit di alam yung meaning ng latin

boy, hindi minimemorize o binabasa ang pag totongues.. hahaha..

 

[vjmm]

boy, hindi minimemorize o binabasa ang pag totongues.. hahaha..

tama ka broh,.
,. Ang mga catholic kc,mdyo hindi masyado nag bbsa ng bible.. All christian religion must stand to the bible, and if that a christian religion but not a bible centered one, abay! Mag-isip isip kana utoy, i'm just sayin the truth here, and i'm agree.. it hurts badly, im one of them dati.. They had the pyramidial hierarch,from pope down to the simple person the member, pero hindi nila alam,kung ano ang gawain ng taas...
The pope in titled the representation of christ to this days,other words he is the vicar of christ,"kahalili daw", saan sa bible un?, we know as christians that there is no other vicar of christ but the holy spirit,in our time.. If any one replace christ other than the holy spirit,? What is that called? **** ****** to all christians they knew what the answer..

 

[sakichiel]

speak in tongue is still in the presence of the people who is in God's presence.

 

[dok calculus]

anung religion yung nag e speaking-in-tounge? Kasi may live na narinig ko fellowship nila sa radio at di ko talaga maintindihan yung words. At yung purpose ng pag e "speaking- n' -tounge" na yan

hindi speaking in tongues yun. ang TUNAY na speaking in tongues e NAIINTINDIHAN ng NAKIKINIG. if you will read acts 2:6-8, nagulat yung mga nakikinig kasi yung taong nagsasalita e naiintindhan ng bawat tao sa kanilang wika. Kumbaga pagdating sa tenga nila e wika nila ang naiintindhan nla. Sabay-sabay yun.

Yung mga naririnig naman natin ngayon sa mga Born-Again Christians daw at Pentecostal daw e GIBBERISH. Walang nakakaintindi.

 

[vjmm]

hindi speaking in tongues yun. ang TUNAY na speaking in tongues e NAIINTINDIHAN ng NAKIKINIG. if you will read acts 2:6-8, nagulat yung mga nakikinig kasi yung taong nagsasalita e naiintindhan ng bawat tao sa kanilang wika. Kumbaga pagdating sa tenga nila e wika nila ang naiintindhan nla. Sabay-sabay yun.

Yung mga naririnig naman natin ngayon sa mga Born-Again Christians daw at Pentecostal daw e GIBBERISH. Walang nakakaintindi.

boss,icng pangyayari ang sa pentcost acts 2, pero tama dn un, bat merng speak n tounge, na sa sarili lng nya, kc nag papalago sya, at tama ka sir dapat may maka intindi kaya,may gift ng interpetation,. Paki basa po ang nauna kung post.. God bless

 

[dok calculus]

boss,icng pangyayari ang sa pentcost acts 2, pero tama dn un, bat merng speak n tounge, na sa sarili lng nya, kc nag papalago sya, at tama ka sir dapat may maka intindi kaya,may gift ng interpetation,. Paki basa po ang nauna kung post.. God bless

nabasa ko kasi agad yung sa isang reader so nagcoment na ako agad sa kanya. well tama po dapat may tamang magiinterpret ng mga sinasabi nila. yung sa mga nasaksihan ko kasi in person e wala raw tlaga sila naiintindihan kahit isa e mga kapanalig pa nila yun.