How many Divine Beings? ( A Call to All Adventists & Non Adventist )

[akirayuri]

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ito ang deperensya sa dalawa kasi di mo makkta ang Word na TRINITY sa bibliya dahil ito ay modern term lang.. pero ang GODHEAD sa baptismal ni kristo sa ngalan ng Ama,anak, at spirito ay mkkta natin sila ay separate entities at naka outline sa bibliya..

hopes this helps..

anong modern?? eh matagal ng may trinity.. dahil ang trinity ay pagan worship kaya matagal na yan.. hindi yan bago, maniwala ka at sa hindi.. ni rebuke pa nga yan ni Ms. EGW nang ginagamit ni Kellogg ang kanyang sulat para lamang palabasin na tama ang imbento nyang doktrina na kung tawagin ay trinity.

 

[stork321]

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hmm.. talaga, kapatid, baka ikaw ang hindi may alam sa history ng SDA, dahil kung alam mo hindi ka maniniwala sa huwad na turo ng trinity..

masyado ka kasi napagpapaniwala sa tsismis sa history ng SDA

huwag po kasi maniwala sa puro tsismis, ok?

 

[akirayuri]

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masyado ka kasi napagpapaniwala sa tsismis sa history ng SDA

huwag po kasi maniwala sa puro tsismis, ok?

talaga? tsismis? patunayan mo na si EGW ay trinitarian, at patutunayan ko sayo na si EGW ay hindi naniniwala sa imbento at paganong doktrina ng Trinity.

 

[stork321]

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talaga? tsismis? patunayan mo na si EGW ay trinitarian, at patutunayan ko sayo na si EGW ay hindi naniniwala sa imbento at paganong doktrina ng Trinity.

Oo tsismis lang yun,, maniwala ka

before ako makipag-usap sayo about sa hamon mo alamin mo muna ang tunay na history at tsaka kita sasagutin sa hamon mo para hindi maging pabalik-balik ang sagutan natin

PM mo sa akin o di kaya ay i-post mo dito ang nabasa mo ha? yung totoo...hindi yung tsismis

Bigyan kita ng clue: ang principle founders ay ine-reject ang doctrine ng trinity at ang ibang pioneers ay may semi-arian views ok na ba yan?

OT na yata tayo akira kasi ang topic dito ay how many divine beings

 

[Bee happy]

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anong modern?? eh matagal ng may trinity.. dahil ang trinity ay pagan worship kaya matagal na yan.. hindi yan bago, maniwala ka at sa hindi.. ni rebuke pa nga yan ni Ms. EGW nang ginagamit ni Kellogg ang kanyang sulat para lamang palabasin na tama ang imbento nyang doktrina na kung tawagin ay trinity.

pakibasa ng post dahil di mo maintindihan.. "WAG GIGIL MAG TYPE"

ang liwanag ng post ko pinadidilim mo

 

[Bee happy]

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wag mong ibahin ang usapan, ang unang sabi mo ang nagsasalita dito ay hindi talaga personal being kundi tumutukoy sa wisdom lamang, eh si Christ na nga ang wisdom of God eh.

eh anu nga problema mo doon sa pagiging wisdom? di naman yun created!

sasabihin mo naman "LITERAL NA ANAK NG DIYOS"

 

[Bee happy]

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bakit kailangan mo pang iredirect ako doon, sila ang imbitahan mo dito, hindi mo ba kayang sagutin??

takot ka ata pumunta eh... kung gusto mo ng maliwanag na mga kasagutan pumunta ka doon... hindi lang sda ang andoon marami pa na kagaya mo

 

[akirayuri]

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pakibasa ng post dahil di mo maintindihan.. "WAG GIGIL MAG TYPE"

ang liwanag ng post ko pinadidilim mo

Gigil? Baka ikaw bee. Pinapamukha ko lamang sayo dahil kung anu an0ng kabulaananang pinagsasabi sabi mo sa nagtatan0ng.

 

[akirayuri]

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Oo tsismis lang yun,, maniwala ka

before ako makipag-usap sayo about sa hamon mo alamin mo muna ang tunay na history at tsaka kita sasagutin sa hamon mo para hindi maging pabalik-balik ang sagutan natin

PM mo sa akin o di kaya ay i-post mo dito ang nabasa mo ha? yung totoo...hindi yung tsismis

Bigyan kita ng clue: ang principle founders ay ine-reject ang doctrine ng trinity at ang ibang pioneers ay may semi-arian views ok na ba yan?

OT na yata tayo akira kasi ang topic dito ay how many divine beings

We have n0thing to do with that dahil kin0rek sila ni Mrs white.

Ok para di ma offt0pic. Tanungin na lang kita regarding sa thread.

How many divine beings?

 

[akirayuri]

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eh anu nga problema mo doon sa pagiging wisdom? di naman yun created!

sasabihin mo naman "LITERAL NA ANAK NG DIYOS"

Ikaw ang may pr0blema dahil sabi mo na hindi yun ^personal being^ . Matagal ko ng sinasabi sayo na si Christ ay begotten n0t created. Mag kaiba yan.

Literal ang pagiging Anak nya, maniwala ka't sa hindi.

 

[akirayuri]

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takot ka ata pumunta eh... kung gusto mo ng maliwanag na mga kasagutan pumunta ka doon... hindi lang sda ang andoon marami pa na kagaya mo

Nanak0t pa para magpasali . Sino ang tak0t? Nahihirapan ka na ata eh.

 

[akirayuri]

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“His "goings forth have
been from of old, from
everlasting." Micah 5:2. And the Son of God declares
concerning Himself: "The Lord possessed Me in the
beginning of His way, before
His works of old. I was set
up from everlasting. . . .
When He appointed the
foundations of the earth: then I was by Him, as one
brought up with Him: and I
was daily His delight,
rejoicing always before
Him." Proverbs 8:22-
30.” {PP 34}

Pakibasa na lang para maunawaan ulit.

 

[Bee happy]

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Nanak0t pa para magpasali . Sino ang tak0t? Nahihirapan ka na ata eh.

halika punta kna doon.. i share mo gospel.. wag po madamut ^^..

wag ka assuming wala ka pa na refute sa previous ko na binigay .. basahin mo kasi ng dahan dahan wag gigil mag type

 

[Bee happy]

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“His "goings forth have
been from of old, from
everlasting." Micah 5:2. And the Son of God declares
concerning Himself: "The Lord possessed Me in the
beginning of His way, before
His works of old. I was set
up from everlasting. . . .
When He appointed the
foundations of the earth: then I was by Him, as one
brought up with Him: and I
was daily His delight,
rejoicing always before
Him." Proverbs 8:22-
30.” {PP 34}

Pakibasa na lang para maunawaan ulit.

sinasbi mo ba created si kristo? aba meron ako post nito ni refute ko na ito dahil denidescribe sa proverbs ang KAtangian ni kristo yung WISDOm!

paki basa sa v1 pababa "SHE" ang pag kakagamit sa pag dedescribe sa WISDOM kung si kristo yan "HE/HIM" ang gagamitin!

 

[akirayuri]

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sinasbi mo ba created si kristo? aba meron ako post nito ni refute ko na ito dahil denidescribe sa proverbs ang KAtangian ni kristo yung WISDOm!

paki basa sa v1 pababa "SHE" ang pag kakagamit sa pag dedescribe sa WISDOM kung si kristo yan "HE/HIM" ang gagamitin!

puro "Him" ang tinutuk0y sa verse na 8:22_30 tap0s dadali ka ng "her" sa v1.

Kung binabasa mo lang "mabuti" reply ko. Di ka sana paulit ulit magtan0ng.

 

[akirayuri]

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halika punta kna doon.. i share mo gospel.. wag po madamut ^^..

wag ka assuming wala ka pa na refute sa previous ko na binigay .. basahin mo kasi ng dahan dahan wag gigil mag type

Natatawa na lang ako sayo dahil para lang di ka mahirapan, magyayaya ka pa sa kung saan saang pab0rit0 m0ng site.

 

[Bee happy]

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puro "Him" ang tinutuk0y sa verse na 8:22_30 tap0s dadali ka ng "her" sa v1.

Kung binabasa mo lang "mabuti" reply ko. Di ka sana paulit ulit magtan0ng.

I. Context
Does this text proves that Jesus Christ is Created? Absolutely no Because,

A.The genre of the book, the book of proverbs is full of methaporic languages, meaning its ful of personification, The One speaking according to v. 12 is

12 “I, wisdom, dwell together with prudence;
I possess knowledge and discretion.

"WISDOM", That is why when the writer of proverbs used the pronoun "Her v.1" to refer to the "Wisdom",

If Jesus Christ is the one who is speaking it must be "HIM" which is masculine pronoun, But the fact that in Proverbs the pronoun "HER" feminine pronoun is present it is a proof that the one speaking in the text is not Jesus Christ,

B. verse 9:

Wisdom has built her house;
she has set up[a] its seven pillars.
2 She has prepared her meat and mixed her wine;
she has also set her table.
3 She has sent out her servants, and she calls
from the highest point of the city,


"WISDOM", "SHE", "SHE",

The pronoun again that was used is "SHE" not "HE", If that Is Jesus then it must be "HE".

II. Is Christ Created Being? No

A. John 1:3
New International Version (NIV)
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Through "HIM" "ALL" "THINGS" "WERE" "MADE", "WITHOUT HIM NOTHING WAS MADE THAT HAS BEEN MADE".,

Pansinin nyo po ang sinabi jan, Hindi daw makakalikha kung "Wala" Si Kristo, SO papano siya lilikhain ng Dios kung di makakalikha ang Dios kung walang Kristo? Samakatuwid si Kristo ay hindi nilikha

di rin tau mag papa ulit ulit kung nag basa ka sa previous post

 

[occulttime]

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walang mananalo dito. kanya kanyang opinion lang ito. kung ano pinaniniwalaan mo jst respect. if you feel you have an internal relatonship with the God you are worshipping go ahead. ang religion is ndi pangdebatehan, it's a respect for what you are believing. besides religion is not religion itself it is your OWN COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR OWN KNOWN SAVIOUR

 

[9Ten8ti]

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1she pronoun \ˈshē\


Definition of SHE
1
: that female one who is neither speaker nor hearer <she is my wife> — compare he, her, hers, it, they
2
—used to refer to one regarded as feminine (as by personification) <she was a fine ship>
3
—used as an alternative to he to refer to a person of unspecified gender <allow anyone to do whatever she wants — D. J. Callahan>

ayun sa number 3!!!bingo

tatagalogin ko na para mas maintindihan:

ginagamit na panghalili ang SHE sa salitang HE kung ang pinag-usapan ay hindi alam ang kasarian.

ngayon kung spirit form, alam mo na ba ang kasarian? hindi pa so pwede he or she depende sa gusto ng gumamit kasi walang rules doon.

kaya nga sa pagtranslate ng mga batikang skolars sa wisdom para hindi na paulit-ulit sabihin ay ginamitan nila ng international panghalili na SHE

sana nakuha

bee tanong ko sayo, bakit pa sinabi ni apostol pablo na naicrucify ang wisdom of god? at bakit ang matthew 23:34 at luke 11:49 ay si kristo at ang wisdom of god ay iisa?

ang nagsasalita sa mateo si kristo at ang nagsasalita sa luke ang wisdom of god pero kung sundan mo si kristo pa rin pala yung wisdom.

erepost ko ulit para maintindihan mo

1corinthian1:30 but god has brought you into union with christ jesus, and god has made CHRIST TO BE OUR WISDOM.

sabi ko nga sayo iba itong wisdom na ito

1cor.2:7-8 the wisdom i proclaim is GOD'S SECRET WISDOM, which is hidden from human beings, but which he had already chosen for our glory even before the world was made. none of the rulers of this world knew this WISDOM. if they had known it, they would not have CRUCIFY THE LORD OF GLORY.

Luke 11:49
For this reason the WISDOM OF GOD said, I will send them prophets and messengers; they will kill some of them and persecute others.

Matthew 23:34 "JESUS SAID"
34 And so I tell you that I will send you prophets and wise men and teachers; you will kill some of them, crucify others, and whip others in the synagogues and chase them from town to town.

yung luke at mateo ay isa lang pangyayari yun pero magkaiba ang writer.

 

[Bee happy]

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