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Totoo ba na may Diyos? Nag-eexist ba siya talaga?

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Ang Lahat Ay Pawang Haka Haka Lamang !! Walang Makakapag Sabi Kahit Sino Kung ano Ang Totoo !!
 
Ang Lahat Ay Pawang Haka Haka Lamang !! Walang Makakapag Sabi Kahit Sino Kung ano Ang Totoo !!

How do you know there is no absolute truth when in fact your statement is a claim about the truth that it cannot be ascertain...based on your premise..how do you know that you are telling the truth?
 
How Do We Know God Exists?

Even on a very fundamental level we find that throughout history there is a very strange phenomenon that people of different backgrounds, living in so many different parts of the world at different points in time, have always had this strong urge within themselves to look and to yearn for the Creator. They see that there is some power, a magnificent and merciful power that is sometimes interpreted in a mistaken way by materializing that in some form or other (i.e. idols). The basic yearning has always been there. Even in places where there is no recorded history of a particular prophet, people have yearned for a Creator. That’s what I’m referring to as an innate nature. The Arabic term is ‘fitra.’ Fitra literally translates to: something that one is created with or created in accordance with: this innate nature.

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Is the intellect an enemy to faith?
All human faculties such as the senses including also the intellect are part and parcel of the whole process of seeking the truth. None of these by themselves will be sufficient, but on a whole they are not really in contradiction. In fact I would say, even more positively, that from a Muslim point of view one of the main things that make the human being distinct, one of the basic blessings that he is given by God to make him different from animals since animals can think as well, is intellect. So the intellect is a God given gift or blessing. How could we interpret that as a challenge or antithesis of faith? This doesn’t really stand.

On the personal or individual level, one doesn’t have to venture far to realize that God does exist. Just look into yourself, you don’t have to be a scientist but if you are then you’ll appreciate more the construction of the body; how it is made up of many cells. One cell becomes a cell for sight and the other for hearing; it’s amazing. How does the brain operate? The circulatory system? The digestive system? The nervous system? Such coordination and beauty [is shown through their functioning]. This shows that these things didn’t come to be in a haphazard way, there must have been a deliberate design behind them. So if you want to find God then look into yourself. The Quran says, “By looking into yourselves, you will find evidence to the presence and powers of God.”
In another verse it even says, “Do they not reflect in their own minds?” (30:8) In fact, if one really divorces himself from any prejudice caused by societal pressures one way or the other, or the worship of science as the ultimate thing, if one utilizes science in the proper way, you wouldn’t have to look at the body as a whole, just start analyzing one single organ and see how it works. Like some scientists would tell you that in order to duplicate the digestive system you’d need a huge laboratory and still it wouldn’t operate as efficiently as a naturally created organ would such as the stomach. We have acids in our stomachs that can erode metal but it doesn’t hurt us. How could that be haphazard? If one aspect of that was developed by chance would everything else falling in line and falling together also happen by chance? (Learn more: Quran and Science)

The Environment and Cosmic Order
Let’s move on to beyond ourselves, to find further evidence, the Quran also implores people to consider and to think. Take one aspect that many people think about today as very fashionable, like the ecological balance for example. Many people would take that as very clear evidence again that there is a design in this universe; vegetation as it relates to animal life and to human life; and the various atmospheric layers that we have. Everything is put together to sustain human life. If you look into the Quran, you find this mentioned. In one verse, in the Quran, it says, “God created everything in exact proportion.” (16:25) This is a very important term “in exact proportion” it’s not just that He created but that there is a deliberate design behind putting all of these things together.

In another verse, when people look at the whole scheme of creation, it says, “Were they created from nothing or are they themselves the creators?” No one claims that he’s created from nothing nor can he claim that he is the creator [of the heavens and earth]. Then the verse continues, “Or did they create the heavens and earth?” No one claims that. Then it says, “Nay but they see not.” (52: 35-36) So the science is there. It’s whether we apply it in the right place and in the proper way or not that makes the difference.
Finally, if you move into what I would call the third circle, not just looking into ourselves or the environment around us but looking into the whole cosmic order, again there is a design. The planets. The solar system. The way everything is coordinated. The distance between the sun and the earth, which if decreased may burn everything and if decreased everything would freeze. This is all deliberate. The succession of day and night, the circulation or changes of seasons, which has very important relevance to the lives of the people, to vegetation, and to animal life; all of these beautiful things that we are in awe at in the universe, we look at them with great admiration, definitely show that there is a design behind them and as is obvious any design needs a designer or creator it. (Read more: Environment and Islam)

One verse in the Quran implores us in particular to this area and says, “Have they not reflected on the domain of the heavens and earth and what God created therein?”

In another verse it also says, in the general sense of the meaning: in the creation of the heavens and earth and in the succession of day and night there are certainly signs for those who reflect. Those who remember God while standing, sitting, and laying down and ponder on the creation of the heavens and the earth, saying: Our Lord you have not created this in vain. Glory be to You. Give us salvation from the penalty of the Fire. (3: 190-191)

Our Own Limitations
In talking about the senses and the intellect or knowledge, I think anyone, even a person who does not believe in God, would admit readily that our senses are limited. Our perceptions are limited. Our sight, hearing, etc- we know that. Also, we know that our perceptions could also be deceived or they can deceive us. If you put a spoon in a glass of water, it looks crooked. A very well known phenomenon is of people traveling in the desert or in hot areas and would see in front of them a lake or a puddle of water- the mirage- but it actually does not exist. At the time it’s seen it is a reality to the person seeing it. So our perception is very useful, but it still falls short of getting to know everything.

On the other hand, science is fine. Science can resolve many issues and problems that are purely scientific- that are purely technical. Science can tell you for sure how to use technology for example to communicate sounds and pictures; this can be determined fully by science. However, there are many aspects in lives of people that are beyond science also. There is the moral aspect, there are the ethical standards, and there is the application of the fundamental principal of good and bad. As we said the [principle of good and bad] is instinctive but still needs some modifications and limitations. And we know throughout history that people have always had differences as to what exactly defines the proper ethical or moral standards. In order to resolve that problem, there must be a higher authority, God, Himself, telling us and providing us with stable standards of ethics and morality within which you can interpret various details.

Finally, and perhaps this is in my mind the most important reason, is that we know that knowledge is not only limited to science or books or perception. We know that there are certain aspects of knowledge, legitimate knowledge, which does not lend itself to any of those tools. For example, take the knowledge of the unseen. What happened in the past before history was recorded? If you wanted to get any information on that there is no recorded history. Or at least there is dispute about the recorded history. Revelation can tell you what, for example, the stories of previous prophets and what they said and what their message was. (Click here to read The Need for Revelation.)

There are issues that no matter how much you use your mind you will not be able to arrive at a final conclusion. An example of that would be the knowledge about God. You can’t feel the presence of God. You can feel the attributes of God but you can’t have full knowledge without having a prophet or messenger in receiving that revelation from God and the communication from Him to us. So, in essence, I don’t see contradiction. Actually, they all supplement each other. They have to be simply used in the proper context.



Adapted, with permission, from transcribed audio lectures on www.jamalbadawi.org
 

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SARILI MO LANG MAKAKASAGOT NYAN LAHAT KAMI DITO MAY KANYA KANYANG OPINYON AT PANINIWALA.. kung samen ka magtatanong mas maguguluhan ka lang.. kung my diyos ang isang tao, malamang may diyos sila na isasagot sayo.. meron dito my diyos,meron ding wala.. so kung saan panatag ang kalooban sa paniniwala mo dun ka..
 
hahaha hirap sagutin nang tanong mo kasi yang tanong mo ikaw lang tlga sasagot, ung ibang sagot bat may buhay bat may universe, masama tao, mabuting tao, bibliya, religion. Nuod ka nang mga palabas na related jan, example, mga ancient aliens nang NATGEO, and how the world was made, basta mga ganyan, kasi tanong ko din sa sarili ko yang tanong mo, at lahat nang tanong ko nasagot nman, may mga scientific explanation halos lahat nang tanong ko at tanong mo, pag d kaya ipaliwanang nang mga tao o nang science jan na papasok ang diyos gawa nang diyos yan gawa ni god yan kung cnu man pinaniniwalaan nila, may mga tanong na mananatiling tanong na lang,
 
para po sa mga hindi naniniwala kay GOD pakibasa po ng story sa baba. nang maintindihan nyo ng mabuti ang lahat. Maraming salamat po.




An atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand. 'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'
'Yes sir,' the student says.

'So you believe in God?'

'Absolutely. '

'Is God good?'

'Sure! God's good.'

'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'

'Yes'

'Are you good or evil?'

'The Bible says I'm evil.'

The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible! He considers for a moment. 'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'

'Yes sir, I would.'

'So you're good...!'

'I wouldn't say that.'

'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Can you answer that one?'

The student remains silent. 'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax 'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?'

'Er..yes,' the student says.

'Is Satan good?'

The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'

'Then where does Satan come from?'

The student falters. 'From God'

'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?'

'Yes, sir..'

'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'

'Yes'

'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'

Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?'

The student squirms on his feet. 'Yes.'

'So who created them?'

The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. 'Who created them?' There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, professor, I do.'

The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?'

'No sir. I've never seen Him.'

'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'

'No, sir, I have not..'

'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?'

'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'

'Yet you still believe in him?'

'Yes'

'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist... What do you say to that, son?'

'Nothing,' the student replies.. 'I only have my faith.'

'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence...only faith.'
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat? '

'Yes.

'And is there such a thing as cold?'

'Yes, son, there's cold too.'

'No sir, there isn't.'

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. 'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit d own to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, 'cold' is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.'

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'

'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation.. 'What is night if it isn't darkness?'

'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?'

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'

'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you explain how?'

'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains.. 'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but it has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.'

'Now tell me, professor.. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?'

'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do.'

'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided. 'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.' The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter. 'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir.' 'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?'

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I guess you'll have to take them on faith.'

'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?' Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'

To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'

The professor sat down.



PS: the student was Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein wrote a book titled God vs. Science in 1921...
 
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para sa akin walang diyos.... bahala na kayo sa sarili niyo kung maypaniniwala pa kayo at hindi basihan ang lahat ng bagay sa mundo para mapatunayan ang mga pinaniniwala niyo hahaha...
 
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sabi sa bibliya, "HUWAG GAWING TOPIC , HUWAG PAG USAPAN OH HUWAG IDAMAY ANG DIYOS SA WALANG KABULUHANG USAPAN " YUN LAMANG PO

dahil hindi ito forum about sa ganyang topics , forum po eto para sa mga nangangailangan ng may mga problema

sa GADGETS ETC...

OPINYON LAMANG PO
 
Ang Lahat Ay Pawang Haka Haka Lamang !! Walang Makakapag Sabi Kahit Sino Kung ano Ang Totoo !!

How do you know there is no absolute truth when in fact your statement is a claim about the truth that it cannot be ascertain...based on your premise..how do you know that you are telling the truth?

Luma na yan , , , ^ pasensya na pang uuto lang yan

pkisagot naman sir...thank you
 
Good day po ka SB, when you say ''Big Bang'' ito po daw ay sanhe ng malaking pagsabok at na form yung earth, galaxy, plant, animal & etc; pero kung iisipin mo po ang ating mundo ay bilog at perfect po ang pwesto ng mga bagay sa ating mundo tulad nalang po ng layo sa araw at sa earth, kaya kung bunga po tayo ng BIG BANG o isang malaking pasabog wala naman pong after masabugan eh perfect po yung kalagay n'ya tulad nalang po ng ating mundo ay bilog kapag bunga po ito ng pagsabog ay kalat po sa sana anh hitsura nito.

at isa pa pong proof during po sa paglalakbay ni magellan sa pilipinas saka n'ya lamang natuklasan na ang mundo ay bilog pero dala-dala n'ya po yung bibliya at hinde n'ya alam na sa bibliya po mismo ay nakasulat na ang mundo ay BILOG.

at isa parin pong proof yung pangalan na PONCIO PILATO sa bibliya lang po yung nababasa, pero mayroon po isang archaeologist na may nahukay sila na bato tapos nakaukit doon ang pangalan na PONCIO PILATO.

Maraming salamat po sayo ka SB.

God Bless!!
 
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Ang bigbang ay isang theory ng mga scienctist para i-explain pano nagsimala ang universe. Sa kabilang side naman, ang universe ay gawa ng Diyos at theory ito ng mga religious people. Its Belief vs. Science, mga mananaliksik vs. mga nagsisimba..hehehe. it depends kung san kyo maniniwala. For me I have freethoughts :D
 
Minsan pumapasok sa isip ko kung totoo ba talaga na may Diyos o gawa gawa lang siya ng mga sinaunang tao. Totoo nga ba siya? Pakitulungan nga po ako. Naguguluhan kasi ako eh. Lagi nalang kasi pumapasok sa isip ko kung sinasayang nga ko lang ba ang oras ko sa pagsisimba,pagdadasal,at pagbabasa ng bible. Di ko alam kung ginawa ba talaga ng Diyos ang lahat ng mga bagay na nasa paligid natin o resulta lang talaga siya nang tinatawag na ''Big Bang''


God exists! Ikaw na mismo ang nagpatunay na ang Diyos ay totoo. Hindi ka magkakaroon ng ideya ng Diyos at hindi natin ngayon pinaguusapan ang Diyos kung hindi siya Nageexist!
Too many people claimed the God do not exist.! However, try to evaluate their stand and you will prove that God indeed exists. The moment an individual negate or even deny the existence of God, he himself contradict himself. We cannot negate or even deny something unless it exists.

On the other hand kung ikaw naman ay naguguluhan kung saan nga ba galing ang lahat at kung sa tingin mo big bang theory ang pinagmulan ng lahat, marapat na tanungin mo muna "saan galing ang big bang theory?" Big bang theory does'nt tells us anything about the creation..it just simply tells us what happen after the creation.. So ang tanong saan galing ang bigbang? sa matter and anti-matter? eh saan galing ung matter and anti matter? Sino ang nghudyat ng pgputok ng tinatawag nating bigbang? eventually ang pagtatanong na ito ay isa lamang ang patutunguhan...sa isang Diyos na siyang gumawa ng lahat...

###Sem.
 
my answer is YES, GOD IS EXIST B'COZ U EXIST WE ARE THE ONE MAKING GOD IN OUR OWN!!!
- BIBLE IS AN EXAMPLE GOD IS EXIST, BCOZ OF HIS/ HER EXISTENCE, IN CHURCH HISTORY THOSE PEOPLE MADE THE BIBLE B'COZ OF INSPIRES OF GOD EXISTENCE "THE BEAUTY OF EXISTENCE" THAT IS Y ONE OF THE LOVELY STORY EVERY IS THE BIBLE.
- DO U ASK Y? U EXIST?
- HYPOTHETICAL BIBLE IS HUMAN MADE, BUT THE GOD EXPERIENCE IN OUR LIFE IS REAL AND EXPLAINABLE, SOMETIME WE R ASKING IF GOD IS EXIST?????
- BIG BANG THEORY IS A GOD BEAUTY, PART AND PARTIAL OF EXISTENCE OF HIGHER BEING.
 
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