Totoo ba na may Diyos? Nag-eexist ba siya talaga?

[pogi_si_kiko]

Ang gusto kong malaman kung bakit ka nagdududa kung may nag-eexist na isang Greater Being or Supernatural Being as GOD? Ang confusion mo ba o ang unbelief mo ay base sa iyong personal na karanasan sa buhay? May mga experiences ka ba na nagtulak sayo na magduda at mag-alinlangan sa existence ng Diyos?

Watch this youtube of Ravi Zacharias give his simple explanation of the existence of God. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJmsK2s0uI (Ravi on How do you know there is a God?)

May isang book na ang title "Is GOD just a Human Invention?" sinulat nina Sean McDowell at Jonathan Morrow. In pages 27-28 may four arguments na inilatag: (1)The Cosmological Argument, (2)The Design Argument from Physics, (3) The Design Argument from DNA, (4)The Moral Argument.

Sa (1)Cosmological argument "the observation that the universe had a beginning, which is demonstrable by science and philosophy. Given that something can't begin to exist without a cause, it seems eminently reasonable to believe that a transcendent cause (outside of the universe) is responsible for its existence. Since matter, time, and energy simultaneously came into existence at a finite point in the past, the cause is plausibly timeless, immaterial, intelligent, powerful, and personal. Simply put, the beginning of the universe points to a Beginner." (2)The Design from Physics "the laws of physics that govern the universe are exquisitely fine-tuned for emergence and sustenance of human life. If there were the slightest changes in any number of physical constants, our universe would quickly become inhospitable (inhabitable). Simply put, the fine-tuning of the universe points to a Fine-Tuner." (3)The Design from DNA, "the discovery of DNA structure. The cellular organization and the development of living creatures are orchestrated by genetic information. Human DNA contains the informational equivalent of roughly eight thousand books. Simply put, the vast amount of information contained in living organisms points to an Information Giver." (4)The Moral Argument, "This argument reasons from the reality of objective moral values are existence of God. If God does not exist, then moral values are ultimately subjective and nonbinding. Yet we know objective moral values are real. We don't need to be persuaded that, for example, torturing babies is wrong. All reasonable people know this. Therefore, since moral values do exist, then God must as well. Simply put, the existence of moral values points to a universal Moral Lawgiver."

Ilan lamang ito sa mga patunay na maging ang science ay nagpapatunay na may nag-eexist na Supreme , Supernatural Being. Ang tanong nga lang saan mo ibinabase o ano ang pundasyon ng iyong paniniwala sa Diyos. At kung kumbinsido ka na walang Diyos na nag-eexist dapat mo ring masagot ang apat na argumentong ito sa isang conclusive at convincing in logical manner.

I recommend you to read the books, articles written by Ravi Zacharias, Josh and Sean McDowell, Lee Strobel, Gary Habermas, Alister McGrath. At may mga videos na available sa Youtube nina William Lane Craig, Dinesh D'Souza, Timothy Keller. Hopefully this helps you and enlighten your search for the existence of God and I believe He (GOD) exists.

 

[Stormer0628]

May isang book na ang title "Is GOD just a Human Invention?" sinulat nina Sean McDowell at Jonathan Morrow. In pages 27-28 may four arguments na inilatag: (1)The Cosmological Argument, (2)The Design Argument from Physics, (3) The Design Argument from DNA, (4)The Moral Argument.

Sa (1)Cosmological argument "the observation that the universe had a beginning, which is demonstrable by science and philosophy. Given that something can't begin to exist without a cause, it seems eminently reasonable to believe that a transcendent cause (outside of the universe) is responsible for its existence. Since matter, time, and energy simultaneously came into existence at a finite point in the past, the cause is plausibly timeless, immaterial, intelligent, powerful, and personal. Simply put, the beginning of the universe points to a Beginner." (2)The Design from Physics "the laws of physics that govern the universe are exquisitely fine-tuned for emergence and sustenance of human life. If there were the slightest changes in any number of physical constants, our universe would quickly become inhospitable (inhabitable). Simply put, the fine-tuning of the universe points to a Fine-Tuner." (3)The Design from DNA, "the discovery of DNA structure. The cellular organization and the development of living creatures are orchestrated by genetic information. Human DNA contains the informational equivalent of roughly eight thousand books. Simply put, the vast amount of information contained in living organisms points to an Information Giver." (4)The Moral Argument, "This argument reasons from the reality of objective moral values are existence of God. If God does not exist, then moral values are ultimately subjective and nonbinding. Yet we know objective moral values are real. We don't need to be persuaded that, for example, torturing babies is wrong. All reasonable people know this. Therefore, since moral values do exist, then God must as well. Simply put, the existence of moral values points to a universal Moral Lawgiver."

Review lang natin briefly yung four arguments:

1. Cosmological Argument. Sabi nya: "Given that something can't begin to exist without a cause...." and yet here you are positing a god or a creator who exactly fits the bill of violating this initial requirement of someone who claims he is not caused by anything else. Then sasabihin natin na exempted ang god.

In short, again, eto yung sinasabi ni Kant na dishonest and fallacious claims of antinomies:

Whether the world is finite or infinite: thought rebels against either supposition: beyond any limit, we are driven to conceive something further, endlessly; and yet infinity is itself inconceivable. Again: did the world have a beginning in time? We cannot conceive eternity; but then too, we cannot conceive any point in the past without feeling at once that before that, something was. Or has chain of causes which science studies, a beginning, a First Cause. Yes, for an endless chain is inconceivable; no for a first cause uncaused is inconceivable as well.​

Positing a god or creator does not add to our understanding of the real workings of universe itself. It only repeats what has been claimed by most theistic religions ad infinitum, adding nothing new to the conversation.

As for the beginning of matter, energy, and spacetime, the latest from the scientific front is this: human understanding of the concept of nothing has to be revisited: the state of rest of all known fields of physics (electromagnetic field, strong force, electroweak field, gravitational field) equals zero. This state of rest appears no-thing, but in fact every ingredient for the production of matter and energy is there, just configured to cancel each other out. Now add to the conversation the fact of quantum fluctuation and you have the Big Bang and presto you have the universe, the Milky Way, the Solar System, Earth, and now us humans arguing the whole lot of our origins.

2. The Design from Physics Sabi nya: "The laws of physics that govern the universe are exquisitely fine-tuned for emergence and sustenance of human life." This is the great myth. If it were true, then we would have detected aliens a long time ago. There are more infinite worlds, or perhaps multiverses whose conditions are not that good and conducive to life. So why Earth? We luck out, for all intent.

3. I]The Design from DNA[/I], "the discovery of DNA structure. The cellular organization and the development of living creatures are orchestrated by genetic information. Human DNA contains the informational equivalent of roughly eight thousand books. Simply put, the vast amount of information contained in living organisms points to an Information Giver." And what poor information giver. A scientist will tell you any time he could have created a better DNA design less prone to all kinds of limitations, diseases, tumors, etc.

4. The Moral Argument, "This argument reasons from the reality of objective moral values are existence of God. If God does not exist, then moral values are ultimately subjective and nonbinding. Yet we know objective moral values are real. We don't need to be persuaded that, for example, torturing babies is wrong. All reasonable people know this. Therefore, since moral values do exist, then God must as well. Simply put, the existence of moral values points to a universal Moral Lawgiver." Perhaps the greatest myth of theists against atheists. The exact opposite is true: if all you do is obey, you are not moral at all, you are just an obedient person. A moral person is someone who knows all the issues at hand and chose what is right because it is right and not because some higher up purportedly told him it is what he must do.

 

[fredricmarcus]

meron, at un ang faith ko bukod sa iba pang mga revelation sa bible na natuklasan na ng mga tao:
1) mga handwritten bible scriptures na natagpuan
2) pinagdaungan ng noah's ark at ang noah's ark
3) chariots na ntagpuan sa ilalim ng dagat (after mahati ni moses ang sinasabing dagat)
4) ang pinaglibingan ni hesus
5) ang mga prediksiyon ng bibliya
6) ang perpektong disenyo ng mundo at universe... para tau mabuhay
7) ang ating buhay etc.

Tungkol sa big bang:
iba ang genes/dna natin kumpara sa mga unggoy etc., hindi talaga tau nanggaling sa unggoy

 

[Stormer0628]

meron, at un ang faith ko bukod sa iba pang mga revelation sa bible na natuklasan na ng mga tao:
1) mga handwritten bible scriptures na natagpuan
2) pinagdaungan ng noah's ark at ang noah's ark
3) chariots na ntagpuan sa ilalim ng dagat (after mahati ni moses ang sinasabing dagat)
4) ang pinaglibingan ni hesus
5) ang mga prediksiyon ng bibliya
6) ang perpektong disenyo ng mundo at universe... para tau mabuhay
7) ang ating buhay etc.

Tungkol sa big bang:
iba ang genes/dna natin kumpara sa mga unggoy etc., hindi talaga tau nanggaling sa unggoy

Mabilisan lang:

1) mga handwritten bible scriptures na natagpuan: palagi naman may nahahalukay na bagong scriptural materials, pero eto: wala sa sinasaad nya or fact ng pagkakahukay sa kanya ang magpapatunay sa pag-exist ng diyos.

2. pinagdaungan ng noah's ark at ang noah's ark: Kung scientifically valid ang claims ng Noah's ark pseudoarcheologists, matagal na cguro putok sa headlines ang so-called "discoveries" na yan. Ang problema ang daming claims and counterclaims from many factions, none of which passes any scientific merit.

3. chariots na ntagpuan sa ilalim ng dagat (after mahati ni moses ang sinasabing dagat): one of those pseudoclaims, though the current fad seems to posit its possibility through various means, all based on natural explanation. Yun nga lang, the absence of any historical accounts for a grand miracle of such magnitude serves to send this "historical" event among the great myths of yore. Eto: what is known is that the growing population of Jews in Egypt at this period were perceived by Eqygptians as a deep wedge in their society, causing so much trouble in their midst. And the period of Moses was the second such event in Egypt where the Egyptians finally had it with the Jews and sent them out for good outside of their country. It was noted that the decision was met with displeasure by the Jews, even though it appeared the Eqyptians even showered them with gifts along the way rather than pursued them seeking their demise. The Jews who were not particularly pleased with the sendout then wrote bitterly of the Eqyptians in their scriptures. These events were in some way better than what the Jews suffered under the policies of Spain regarding the Jews during the time of Ferdinand and Isabella.

4. ang pinaglibingan ni hesus Na wala na siya sa pinaglibingan, thus proving the resurrection? Maraming counterclaims diyan. Daming theories, depende na lang sa gusto mo paniwalaan. What is known is that Jesus very conveniently chose to "reappear" among his choice disciples, rendering such event a very weak eyewitness account in the process.

5. ang mga prediksiyon ng bibliya: maraming prediksyon ang bibliya, karamihan generic tungkol sa bagyo, lindo, trahedya ng kalikasan. Yung historical prophecies nya walang malinaw, at mismong napakaraming sektor ng Christianity and di magkasundo sa interpretation. Pabor ako sa antichrist being seen as Nero, for example, since Christians were known not to expect the endtimes beyond Nero or a few decades at the height of the disciples's ministry, but that is just me ha.

6. ang perpektong disenyo ng mundo at universe... para tau mabuhay: Sana totoo na lang to eh, hehe. However, on closer inspection, the universe is more prone to disorder rather than order (Second Law of Thermodynamics). And here's more: If humans survive in billions of years, they can't do anything about the dark energy that would rend this universe apart and distant from each other, resulting in a very cold universe indeed, unless humanity find a way to circumvent this fact then or are proven to be wrong about the nature of gravity after all.

7. ang ating buhay etc. At ang ating pagkamatay, paano? May kabilang buhay? Paano kung wala. Sige na I know what your answer will be but perhaps let's leave it at that.

Tungkol sa big bang, iba ang genes/dna natin kumpara sa mga unggoy etc., hindi talaga tau nanggaling sa unggoy: Eto: 98.8 percent of human and chimpanzee genes are identical. Ayaw mo pa rin, okay lang I understand.

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Eto para sa item #3, for humor:

About World News Daily Report, yung nagpost ng "news" about chariots being found under the Red Sea:

World News Daily Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within worldnewsdailyreport.com are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental, except for all references to politicians and/or celebrities, in which case they are based on real people, but still based almost entirely in fiction.

Despite WNDR's framing of the alleged "discovery" as recent and newly announced, reports of divers finding chariot wheels and the like under the Red Sea are a hoax that has been promulgated for many years now. The WNDR article's use of language such as "this morning" and its claims that a team of "underwater archeologists" in Egypt responsible for the discovery are planning to recover more artifacts from the site reinvigorated interest in the long-discredited rumor, but the details are not only fabricated, they've simply been recycled from past claims and appended with more recent dates. In October 2015, the equally dubious web site Disclose.TV once again jump-started the phony rumors by republishing the year-old fake World News Daily Report article.

Prior to the "Red Sea" story, World News Daily Report hoaxed social media users with articles such as "15-Ton Prehistoric Shark Captured Off Coast Of Pakistan,"Newly-Found Document Holds Eyewitness Account of Jesus Performing Miracle," and "200 Million Years Old Dinosaur Egg Hatches in Berlin Museum." True to the site's disclaimer, none of those massively popular stories turned out to be rooted in truth.​

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Lesson: Do take care where to acquire your news.

 

[scartissue27]

naniniwala ka bang nag exist si mang kanor?

 

[jerryxon]

pwedeng relate sa katanungan mo ts ay yung kung nakikita mo ba yung sarili mong utak sa loob ng bungo mo

 

[kaito89]

Kung naniniwala kang may Diyos, totoong meron. Kaya nga lahat nang naniniwalang may maganda pang mangyayari sa buhay nila dumarating sa kanila yung biyayang kailangan nila. Tiwala lang.

 

[ramieldeals]

Para malaman mo kung may totoong may Diyos, kailangan mo munang maniwala sa Bibliya dahil maliban sa nakikitang pisikal na uniberso, nasa Bibliya ang mga katibayan ng pag-iral ng Diyos.
Makakatulong sa iyong pagsasaliksik ang sumusunod:
https://www.jw.org/tl/turo-ng-bibliya/tanong/may-diyos-ba/
Maaari mong i-download nang libre ang mga brosyur na "Saan Nagmula ang Buhay?" at "Magandang Balita Mula sa Diyos!", gayundin ang aklat na "Ano ba Talaga ang Itinuturo ng Bibliya?" (Nasa Pahina 8 ang paksang Ano ba ang Katotohanan Tungkol sa Diyos?). May printable (pdf) at audio recording (mp3) ang mga nabanggit.
Mayroon ding Bibliya na puede ring idownload sa iba't ibang wika. Marami pang literatura, musika at video sa www.jw.org/tl. LAHAT nang 'yan, LIBRE!

 

[aztig678]

ito lang ang masasabi ko ts. totoo my diyos dahil kung wala hindi na tayo naguusap sa site nato. at hindi ko rin matatagpuan ang thread mo.

magtanong ka sa mga indigo.

ilang daang taon na kayo pa blik-blik sa mundo.

 

[Lucius Crassus]

Minsan pumapasok sa isip ko kung totoo ba talaga na may Diyos o gawa gawa lang siya ng mga sinaunang tao. Totoo nga ba siya? Pakitulungan nga po ako. Naguguluhan kasi ako eh. Lagi nalang kasi pumapasok sa isip ko kung sinasayang nga ko lang ba ang oras ko sa pagsisimba,pagdadasal,at pagbabasa ng bible. Di ko alam kung ginawa ba talaga ng Diyos ang lahat ng mga bagay na nasa paligid natin o resulta lang talaga siya nang tinatawag na ''Big Bang''

Ang tanong na maibabato ko sa iyo. How everything exist from the beginning?

It's up to you naman kung maniniwala ka o hindi. No one will force you to believe that.

If you looking for the truth only your perception will tell if it's truth or not.

Ang tanong na maiiwan ko sa iyo ay What is your purpose of your existence?

 

[regicidedelferoz]

ang tanong ko sa mga naghahanap ng ebidensya kung may Diyos ba o wala, ikaw ba kaya mo rin magbigay ng ebidensya na walang Diyos? sabi mo science, parang Bible rin yan, tao lang din ang gumawa so bakit ka naniniwala? kasi sabi ng mga scientists? eh ganun din naman ang Bible, sabi ng mga tao. di ko lang makita ang punto bakit di kayo naniniwala sa Diyos. ano ba pinagkaiba kung naniwala ka o hindi?

 

[cathzkiie]

Para saken eto pinaka exact Time=God

 

[kaito89]

Madami ngayong naliligaw ang paniniwala dahil sa mga nakakatakot na naglalabasan sa siyensya ngayon. Pilit nilang nilalabanan ang paniniwala ng mga relihiyon. Isa pa dyan na nakakatakot na paglaganap ng mga di naniniwala at pananampalataya sa Diyos is yung Deep Web na yun. Maraming bumibisita dyan o nalululong na nagiging atheist. Ang Deep Web is puno ng mga makamundong bagay na pilit nilalayo ang mga tao dito sa paniniwala sa Diyos at ang dapat paniwalaan ay ang siyensya at aliens. Pilit kang tutuksuhin sa mga makamundong bagay gaya ng mga ilegal na gawain, pornography, patayan, mga articles na against sa kahit anong relihiyon.

 

[JaikkoNoynay]

ang sakit lng pakinggan ang tanong na '' Totoo ba ang Diyos or naniniwala ba kayo? "

Ang sakin lng hindi paba tayo kontinto na nandito na tayo kailangan paba natin lumipas para lng malaman at huli na ang lahat. God gives us the knowledge to know but we take it against Him.

For real, hindi po ako mahilig bumasa ng Bible dahil boring para sa kin at hindi po ako laging nagsisimba at sa tingin ko mga years na... Makasalanan po ako katulad nyo Mam/Sir at hndi po ako proud doon pro sa extent na sinasabi nyo na hindi totoo ang Diyos ay sobra namn po yata yan.

Kung proof lng po ang gusto nyo then look at the mirror & see how perfectly made u are...
# Dont lean on Ur Understanding for God Above is beyond Human Comprehension.

 

[Stormer0628]

ang sakit lng pakinggan ang tanong na '' Totoo ba ang Diyos or naniniwala ba kayo? "

Ang sakin lng hindi paba tayo kontinto na nandito na tayo kailangan paba natin lumipas para lng malaman at huli na ang lahat. God gives us the knowledge to know but we take it against Him.

For real, hindi po ako mahilig bumasa ng Bible dahil boring para sa kin at hindi po ako laging nagsisimba at sa tingin ko mga years na... Makasalanan po ako katulad nyo Mam/Sir at hndi po ako proud doon pro sa extent na sinasabi nyo na hindi totoo ang Diyos ay sobra namn po yata yan.

Kung proof lng po ang gusto nyo then look at the mirror & see how perfectly made u are...
# Dont lean on Ur Understanding for God Above is beyond Human Comprehension.

Masakit lang yan dahil heavily invested na tayo sa nakalakihan nating paniniwala and we came to automatically regard them as unquestionable truths.

Sabagay na ito, alalahanin natin na di likas na relihiyon ng Pilipino ang Kristianismo. Alam nyo kung pano ang mga ninuno natin ay sumasamba or nagbibigay galang sa mga spirits ng nature or ng mga ninuno nila at iyon ang nakagisnan nilang paniniwala. Isipin mo kung ano ang reaksyon nila sa unang bahagi ng pananakop sa atin at sapilitang pinapaconvert habang nakaumang ang armas sa harap nila. Madali tayong makalimot sa pinagmulan natin. Ang kristianismo ay dayuhang paniniwala na pilit isinaksak sa ating mga ninuno sa pamamagitan ng dahas. Ang mga Moro/Muslim lang ang may karapatang magmalaki na sumalungat sa malawakang kaganapan na ito, although questionable din naman ang pagconvert nila sa Islam kung iisipin natin ito. Ang Kristianismo at Islam na tinuturing na Abrahamic religions ay pawang dayuhang paniniwala sa mga islang ito.

 

[kaito89]

Isa lang masasabi ko irespeto at igalang na ang natin ang paniniwala ng bawat isa. Kung ang tanungin mo ay relihiyoso natural isasagot ay OO at kung di naman naniniwala sa Diyos HINDI naman ang isasagot. Yung kasagutan ikaw na makakahanap nun sa sarili mo kung ano talaga ang gusto mong paniwalaan. Pag dito mo itinanong yan marami lang magtatalo at mag aaway-away.

 

[Stormer0628]

^ Kung may namumuo na kaseng doubt sa tao at di alam san pupunta kaya humihingi ng kuro-kuro ng iba, ang forum na ito ang nagsisilbing avenue para makatulong sa exploration nya. Ang mahalaga lang ay marunong mag-express ng opinion ng di nawawala ang respeto sa paniniwala ng iba. Yung iba din kase pasaway at inflammatory gumawa ng statements. Anyway, that is why we have mods and that is how they earn their keeps.

 

[geezushaberdash]

Kung dayuhang paniniwala ang Christianity at Islam sa Pilipinas, dayuhan din sa mga Europeans ang Christianity na in-adopt at ipinalaganap lang nila (Graeco-Roman at Germanic paganism ang original religions sa Europe, Semitic religion ang Christianity na itinatag at unang ipinalaganap ng mga Hudyo sa Europe); dayuhan din ang Islam (na Arab religion) sa Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia; dayuhan din ang Buddhism (na Indian religion) sa Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan. Hinduism ang oldest extant major religion, at xa lang ang major religion na hindi nag-spread globally at nanatili sa place of origin niya. Lahat ng religions na pina-practice ng karamihan ng mga bansa sa mundo ay dayuhan sa kanila.

Hindi lumaganap ang Christianity sa former European colonies (kasama ang Pilipinas) sa pamamagitan lang ng dahas. Isa lang un sa mga paraan. Lumaganap xa sa pamamagitan din ng mission, indoctrination, education, state adoption at globalization. Gaya ng Christianity at Islam, hindi rin lalaganap ang Buddhism sa Indochina at East Asia kung hindi xa in-adopt ng mga dynasties at kingdoms dun noon bilang isa sa mga state religions nila. At gaya rin ng religion, hindi rin lalaganap ang democracy, human rights, capitalism, universities, hospitals, etc. sa buong mundo kung hindi nangyari ang European colonization. Ipinwersa rin un sa kanila ng mga dayuhan. At hindi dahil ipinwersa ng mga dayuhan ang isang bagay o lumaganap xa sa pamamagitan ng dahas, mali o masama na xa at hindi dapat tangkilikin at dapat iabandona. Globalized na ang civilization ngaun. Ang konsepto ng "foreign" lalo na sa mga encompassing ideas katulad ng religion at politics ay applicable lang nung antiquity kung kelan isolated at independent ang lahat ng civilizations sa isa't isa. Jews lang ang founders ng Christianity. Pero universal religion xa.

 

[Stormer0628]

At hindi dahil ipinwersa ng mga dayuhan ang isang bagay o lumaganap xa sa pamamagitan ng dahas, mali o masama na xa at hindi dapat tangkilikin at dapat iabandona....

Tumpak ang sinabi mo sa karamihan ng parts, but I take exception in this one. True, to the victor goes the spoils, at yan ang umiiral na estado ng mundo ngayon. And mga dominanteng ideya, goods, at iba pang bagay ayon sa pamumuhay ng karamihan ng tao sa mundo ngayon ay hango sa mga kagawian at produkto ng mga nagsipagwaging sistema ng relihiyon at mga empirialistic countries ng panahon na di pa uso ang international laws.

Maaari rin namang malaking porsyento ng mga bagay na galing sa mga dominanteng entities na ito ay totoong di naman masama at makabubuti rin sa tao, lalo na kung iisipin mo ang mga makalumang practices na masyado ng backward sa panlasa natin ngayon.

Ang tanong lang diyan ay: ano kayang mga priceless pieces of information, cultural and other human artefacts ang nawala na ng tuluyan sa heritage ng sangkatauhan nangdahil sa malawakang imperialism/conversion/colonizations nuon? Katulad ng pagkadecimate ng maraming South American civilizations, European pagan religions, maraming kaalaman ang di na maibabalik kailanman sa mga tao.

Sabi nga ay approaching the age of convergence na ang mundo, kung saan lahat ay nagkakaroon na ng di maiiwasang koneksyon at ugnayan dahil sa umiiral na teknolohiya at kakayahan ng tao. Subalit ang di napapansin ay ang pag-iral din ng mga countercultural movements kahit saang panig ng mundo. Karamihan ng mga sinakop na kultura ay nagkakaroon ng malawakang campaign na balikan ang mga roots nila bago pa naging dominante ang Kristiyanismo at Islam sa mundo. Halimbawa ay ang nangyayari ngayon sa Irish/Gaelic/Welsh tradions, Nordic traditions, Greek/Roman traditions, native American traditions. Ang iba ay pumapasaloob ng category ng New Age, ang iba ay di mo mawari kung saan nabibilang pero iisa ang masasabi mo sa kanila: a total repudiation of Abrahamic religions (Islam/Christianity) and a return to their ancestral heritage. Many find the need to see their reflections in the mirror and declare that what they see is the true persons they should be in the grand schemes of things in the universe.

 

[geezushaberdash]

Maliliit na movements lang ang pagan reconstructionism. Hindi na ulit magiging dominant belief system ang pre-Christian pagan religions, at hindi rin magiging majority ng religious population ang mga pagan reconstructionists maliban na lang kung i-endorso sila ng gobyerno at gawing state o official religions na hindi na mangyayari dahil secular na karamihan ng mga bansa ngaun. Nagiging dominant lang ang isang religion/belief system/philosophy dahil sa official endorsement ng state, colonialism/imperialism, at sa pagpapalaganap nito sa pamamagitan ng mass media. At walaang masama sa mga reconstructionist movements kaya nga may freedom of religion. Inclusive ang religious freedom ng lahat ng religion/belief systems maging non-belief systems katulad ng atheism hindi lang ng major religions.