do you believe in purgatory??

[cokefloat]

yeah I believe in purgatory..

COLOSSIANS 2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

nasa biblia kasi yan kaya naniniwala ako.. aral yan na lilitaw na hindi ayon kay Cristo...


2nd Corinthians 11:4

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].

GALATIANS 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

explain mo nlang mabute bro kesa mahihirapan umintindi iba naten SB members..in a way na simple at madali maintindihan

 

[MCGI]

explain mo nlang mabute bro kesa mahihirapan umintindi iba naten SB members..in a way na simple at madali maintindihan

pananaw mo lang yan brad..

sabi kasi ni Cristo..

JOHN 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

kaya magegetz yan ng mga "tupa"

again..

NANINIWALA AKO SA PURGATORYO!

dahil ang "purgatoryo" ay aral na lilitaw na hindi ayon kay Cristo..

 

[Renzokuken]

I'm a Roman Catholic but I don't believe in purgatory...
wala kasi siya sa bible...

at kasi hindi po ako sobrang relihiyosong tao...
sa pagkakaalam ko po kasi wala namang nabanggit din sa bible kung ano ang tamang relihiyon at hindi naman siguro relihiyon ang basehan kung makakapasok ka ng langit o hindi,,

para sa akin kasi ,, ang mahalaga lang ay kung may takot at sumusunod sa Diyos na nag alis ng ating kasalanan....

 

[jumz24]

matuto tayo sana tyo sa mga nasusulat ayon sa kalooban ng Dios na nasa BIBLE..kung wala sinabi o diwa man tungkol sa purgatoryo...it means wala talagang gnun..huwag tyong mag-isip ng mas matayog pa sa DIOS..ang DIOS di nya naisip ang pugatoryo tpos ipalalabas natin na meron..wag po sanang gnun..opinion ko po ito at naayon nmn po sa BIBLE..maraming salamat

 

[Minister]

matuto tayo sana tyo sa mga nasusulat ayon sa kalooban ng Dios na nasa BIBLE..kung wala sinabi o diwa man tungkol sa purgatoryo...it means wala talagang gnun..huwag tyong mag-isip ng mas matayog pa sa DIOS..ang DIOS di nya naisip ang pugatoryo tpos ipalalabas natin na meron..wag po sanang gnun..opinion ko po ito at naayon nmn po sa BIBLE..maraming salamat

matuto ka sanang bumatay sa biblia, naaayon ba yan sa biblia?

ako naniniwala ako sa purgatoryo, ewan ko lang sa mga plastik dito kung naniniwala silang may demonyo? baka sabihin ipapalabas na meron, e bakit ka naniniwalang may demonyo?

eto diwa ng mga pantas sa sarili http://www.symbianize.com/showthread.php?t=312983 ayaw munang pagusapan ang kaharian ng Dios. ang gusto armageddon nagtatanong kunwari.

 

[winmail]

meron pong sinabi tungkol sa porgatory pakibasa nalang po


Matthew 5:26

Matthean Parallel” (See: Matthew 18:23-35)

Lazarusian Incident” (See: Luke 16:19-31)

Spirits in prison – 1 Peter 3:18-20; 4:6

 

[newmen2.0]

ako d ako naniniwala sa purgatoryo, kc meron lng eh heaven and hell!

 

[rjlaforteza]

THE BIBLE TEACHES PURGATORY

There is proof for Purgatory in the Bible. It’s found in 1 Corinthians chapter 3, verse 15. Let’s examine this Biblical proof for Purgatory. I will use the 1611 King James Version of the Bible, a famous Protestant translation.

1 CORINTHIANS 3:15 IS IRREFUTABLE PROOF FOR PURGATORY

1 Corinthians 3:11-15 “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.”

Now let’s look at the last part of this passage again. In 1 Corinthians 3:15, we see: “If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.” So we have a man whose works have been judged. His works are, in fact, burned; and he suffers loss; yet he is saved, but by fire. He suffers loss, but is saved by fire.

 

[rjlaforteza]

WHAT DOES “SUFFER LOSS” MEAN IN THIS PASSAGE?

The Greek word which is translated as “suffer loss” is zemiothesetai. It comes from the Greek word zemioo. Forms of this same Greek word, zemioo – which is translated as “suffer loss” in 1 Cor. 3:15 – are found in other passages in the Bible. The word is used to mean punishment. In Exodus 21:22, Proverbs 17:26, Proverbs 19:19 and elsewhere, this very Greek word zemioo is used to mean punishment. That means that zemiothesetai, the word translated as suffer loss in 1 Cor. 3:15, can mean punishment.

So, the man who suffers loss and is saved by fire can mean a man who is punished and is saved by fire. Doesn’t that sound just like Purgatory? Yes, it sounds exactly like Purgatory because that’s what it’s referring to. But there is more from the context to demonstrate the point. Who is this man, and why is he suffering loss or punishment and being saved by fire?

 

[rjlaforteza]

BUT DIDN’T JESUS’ SUFFERINGS ON THE CROSS MAKE UP FOR EVERYTHING?

Some non-Catholics like to think that Jesus Christ’s passion and death made up for everything, including the penalty due to all future sins. There are no worries about something such as Purgatory, they say, because Jesus Christ paid the price for it all.
This argument is false for many reasons.

First, it’s proven false by Colossians 1:24.

Colossians 1:24 “ now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church.”

This verse might be a shock to some who are not familiar with it. Paul says that he fills up, for the Church, those things that are wanting or lacking in the sufferings of Christ. Christ’s suffering was perfect and of infinite value; so what does this mean?

What St. Paul means is that many sufferings are still wanting and needed for the members of the Church to work out their salvation, which was all made possible by Christ’s sacrifice. This verse proves that Christ’s sacrifice doesn’t do away with all worries about the possibility of future punishment due to one’s sins. If so, then Paul would never say that his sufferings fill up for members of the Church that which is wanting in the sacrifice of Christ; nor would Jesus speak of the punishments for sins, which He repeatedly does. This verse, Colossians 1:24, also proves the Catholic doctrine of the communion of saints, and the effect of intercessory prayer and sacrifice.

Second, the aforementioned Protestant argument is refuted by the following: If it were true that Jesus’ sacrifice made up for everything, including the future punishments due to every man’s sins, then no one would have to believe or do anything to be saved. Jesus’ sacrifice would have paid the price for it all. But even the non-Catholics who argue that Jesus made up for everything admit that not all men are saved. They admit that people must do something to be saved. With such an admission, they contradict themselves and disprove their argument that Christ’s sufferings took care of everything.

Third, this argument is based on a grave misunderstanding of the Redemption of Christ. What is the meaning of Jesus Christ’s passion and death? Jesus Christ redeemed the world and destroyed men’s sins, as the Catholic Council of Florence defined.

"He who was conceived without sin, was born and died, THROUGH HIS DEATH ALONE LAID LOW THE ENEMY OF THE HUMAN RACE BY DESTROYING OUR SINS, and opened the entrance to the kingdom of heaven, which the first man by his own sin had lost with all succession…”

It means every sin that is forgiven is forgiven by Jesus Christ, and specifically by the merit of His passion and death. This forgiveness is granted only to those who follow Him and do what He says must be done, which enables them to benefit from His Redemption. It does not mean that God will not punish people for future sins. It does not mean that the penalty for all the sins of the whole world has been taken away.

 

[rjlaforteza]

In Hebrews 11:35 of the Protestant and Catholic Bibles, we see a reference to an event which is only recorded in the Second Book of Machabees chapter 7.

Hebrews 11:35 “Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection…”

This reference is found in only one place in the Bible. It’s found in 2 Machabees 7, which tells the story of the mother and her seven sons. This mother and her seven sons refused deliverance from torture so that they might receive resurrection with the

This means that the New Testament writers accepted the Septuagint version, and thus the seven books which the Protestants reject.

just. So, in Hebrews 11:35, St. Paul is making reference to the Second Book of Machabees. This demonstrates that 2 Machabees, which the Protestant Bible doesn’t have, is part of the true Old Testament. 2 Machabees chapter 12 clearly teaches prayer for the dead and therefore Purgatory.

2 Machabees 12:46 “It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.”

This verse teaches Purgatory. It says it’s a holy thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from their sins. The Bible thus teaches that there is a place after death where some of the faithful who will be saved are detained, where they can be aided by prayer. This corresponds to the teaching of 1 Corinthians 3:15, which we already saw, that some people are saved while suffering loss (or punishment) but by fire. That place is Purgatory, and this verse clearly proves it. That’s why this book was removed from the Bible by those who wanted to invent a new version of Christianity – one that is not conformable to Tradition or the teaching of the Bible.

 

[goda]

Hi po. Hnd po ako na niniwala sa purgatory.

Sa mga Trinitarian dyan... Ang Diyos natin ay perfecto dba? Naniniwala tayu na si Jesus ay Diyos. Sa makatuwid si Jesus ay perfecto. Nag alay siya ng buhay niya para sa ikakatubos ng kasalanan yun ung paniniwala natin.
So may paniniwala pala na ang ginawa ni Jesus para matubos ang ating kasalanan at malinis tayu ay hnd sapat. Kaya may purgatory tama po ba ang basa ko?
Sobrang hirap ng dinanas ng ating Diyos sa bundok ng kalbaryo tapos hnd sapat ang kanyang pagliligtas?

Ang Diyos na pinaniniwalaan natin kahit siya ay perfecto ay hnd sapat mag ligtas kaya gumawa pa siya ng purgatory dahil hnd sapat ung ginawa niya?

Parang bang ganito... May plan 'A' at may plan 'B'. Mamatay ako para linisin ko sa kasalanan ang mga mahal ko un ung plan 'A', at ung plan 'B' naman pag nagkasala pa rin ulit sila or gumawa sila ng kasalanan or basta may kinalaman sa kasalanan gagawa ako ng purgatoryo.

Get the logic nlng... Sa old testament alang purgatory. Kaya paano magkakaroon ng purgatory? Paano naman ung mga namatay sa old testament?

Eto logic bkt alang purgatory sa old testament... Hnd sana namatay si Jesus kung may purgatory na sa old testament tama ba?

Eto pa logic... anung inutos ng panginoon para malinis ka at ma purified ka sa kaslanan? Sacrife ng mga hayop and repent sa old testament dba? Alang tinurong katulad ng doctrines ng purgatory.

Sana na gets nyo ung point ko, sa mga hnd nagbabasa ng BIBLE sana ma gets nyo pa rin. Pero better not to comment nlng kung hnd nyo na gets. Gets nyo ba? Ahahaha

Pls lang po pag aralan niyo tong verse na to before u comment...

Hebrew 10:26-27

Anouncement po sa mga catholic... Gamitin nating pamantayan ang King james version! Dahil bible nyo rin un. At isa pa. May mga bible na may basbas ni Cardinal Sin kaya hnd nyo pdeng sabihin na ibang bible ginagamit namin. Tnxs.

 

[dhianbrentt]

sabi nang paginoon diyos ,sahuling araw babangunin nya at hahatulan nya ang namatay na tao , sa ilalim man nang lupa ,sa kaliliman man nang dagat.....(kailan pa ang pag hahatol hindi natin alam kung kailan yung huling araw nayun hanga"t hindi naganap ang kanyang mga hula)(sa makatuwid baga`y pagtayoy na nga matay mag aantay tayo nang paghahatol nang diyos)....ibig sbihin wala tayo sa langit?or sa impierno? kaagad mayroon tayong kinlalagyan...(kayo nang ang makakasagot kung nasaan tyo?yun ang tinatawag na purgatoryo ksi naghihintay tayo nang paghahatol....maliban nalang pagkilala mo ang tunay na dios ikaw ay maliligtas.. marami ang dios pero iisa lang ang tunay, *ANG DIOS NANG MGA JUDIO.*......#.ang aking kasagutan ay etong mundong kinalalagyan natin yan ang tinatawg na purgartoryo..

 

[rjlaforteza]

1 CORINTO 3:15 "Ngunit kung masunog naman, mawawalan siya ng gantimpala. Gayunman, maliligtas siya, kaya lang ay para siyang nagdaan sa apoy."

di ba klaro po ito na Purgatoryo. Klaro po yan.

Sanctification takes place when a person enters heaven and becomes totally and irrevocably united with God in the beatific vision.

THE CONTEXT OF 1 COR. 3 CONCERNS CHRISTIANS AND CERTAIN SINS OR BAD WORKS

The context of 1 Corinthians 3 deals with members of the Church of Christ; it deals with Corinthian Christian believers. 1 Corinthians 3:3 tells us that some of these Corinthian Christians were falling into sinful imperfections and offenses against God. Some of these bad works or sins are identified in 1 Corinthians 3:3 as strife, divisions and envying.

1 Corinthians 3:3 “… for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?”

1 Corinto 3:3 "sapagkat nananaig pa sa inyo ang laman. Ang inyong pag-iinggitan at pag-aaway-away ay palatandaan na makasanlibutan pa kayo at namumuhay ayon sa laman."

So the context of 1 Corinthians 3 deals with the different kinds of works of believers; some of them are not so good. These different kinds of works (good and bad) are described in 1 Corinthians 3:12.

1 Corinthians 3:12-13 “Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.”

1 Corinto 3:12-13 "May nagtatayo na gumagamit ng ginto, pilak, o mahahalagang bato; mayroon namang gumagamit ng kahoy, damo, o dayami. Makikilala ang uri ng gawa ng bawat isa sa Araw ng Paghuhukom sapagkat mahahayag sa pamamagitan ng apoy kung anong uri ang ginawa ng bawat isa. "

There are good works, which are called: gold, silver and precious stones. These signify a better or more perfect adherence to the Gospel of Christ. Then there are other works, which are not so good. These bad works or sins included unnecessary quarrelling, strife, jealousy and divisions (as mentioned above). These are described as: wood, hay and stubble. These are the works that are burned in 1 Cor. 3:15, for which the man suffers loss or punishment; but he is saved, yet so as by fire.

1 CORINTO 3:15 "Ngunit kung masunog naman, mawawalan siya ng gantimpala. Gayunman, maliligtas siya, kaya lang ay para siyang nagdaan sa apoy."

 

[winmail]

Hi po. Hnd po ako na niniwala sa purgatory.

Sa mga Trinitarian dyan... Ang Diyos natin ay perfecto dba? Naniniwala tayu na si Jesus ay Diyos. Sa makatuwid si Jesus ay perfecto. Nag alay siya ng buhay niya para sa ikakatubos ng kasalanan yun ung paniniwala natin.
So may paniniwala pala na ang ginawa ni Jesus para matubos ang ating kasalanan at malinis tayu ay hnd sapat. Kaya may purgatory tama po ba ang basa ko?
Sobrang hirap ng dinanas ng ating Diyos sa bundok ng kalbaryo tapos hnd sapat ang kanyang pagliligtas?

Ang Diyos na pinaniniwalaan natin kahit siya ay perfecto ay hnd sapat mag ligtas kaya gumawa pa siya ng purgatory dahil hnd sapat ung ginawa niya?

Parang bang ganito... May plan 'A' at may plan 'B'. Mamatay ako para linisin ko sa kasalanan ang mga mahal ko un ung plan 'A', at ung plan 'B' naman pag nagkasala pa rin ulit sila or gumawa sila ng kasalanan or basta may kinalaman sa kasalanan gagawa ako ng purgatoryo.

Get the logic nlng... Sa old testament alang purgatory. Kaya paano magkakaroon ng purgatory? Paano naman ung mga namatay sa old testament?

Eto logic bkt alang purgatory sa old testament... Hnd sana namatay si Jesus kung may purgatory na sa old testament tama ba?

Eto pa logic... anung inutos ng panginoon para malinis ka at ma purified ka sa kaslanan? Sacrife ng mga hayop and repent sa old testament dba? Alang tinurong katulad ng doctrines ng purgatory.

Sana na gets nyo ung point ko, sa mga hnd nagbabasa ng BIBLE sana ma gets nyo pa rin. Pero better not to comment nlng kung hnd nyo na gets. Gets nyo ba? Ahahaha

Pls lang po pag aralan niyo tong verse na to before u comment...

Hebrew 10:26-27

Anouncement po sa mga catholic... Gamitin nating pamantayan ang King james version! Dahil bible nyo rin un. At isa pa. May mga bible na may basbas ni Cardinal Sin kaya hnd nyo pdeng sabihin na ibang bible ginagamit namin. Tnxs.

Regarding po dyan porgatory at sa iba pang katanungan mo ay nasagot ko na Catholic Corner ito po http://www.symbianize.com/showpost.php?p=9441857&postcount=551

 

[goda]

Regarding po dyan porgatory at sa iba pang katanungan mo ay nasagot ko na Catholic Corner ito po http://www.symbianize.com/showpost.php?p=9441857&postcount=551

pakisagot lang po ng tanong ko...

1)bkt kaylangan pang mamatay ni Jesus kung may purgatory naman pala sa old testament.

2)
dapat alam nyo rin paano ba talga tayu na PURIFIED sa sin.

1 john 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.

Hebrews 10:26-27

King James Version (KJV)

26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

contradic sa purgatory...

Hebreo 10:26-27
Ang Salita ng Diyos (SND)

26Sapagkat tinanggap na natin ang kaalaman ng katotohanan at kung sinasadya natin ang pagkakasala, wala nang natitira pang handog para sa mga kasalanan. 27Ang natitira na lamang ay ang kakila-kilabot na paghihintay para sa paghuhukom at nagngangalit na apoy na siyang lalamon sa mga kaaway.

"ANG NATITIRA NA LAMANG AY ANG KAKILA-KILABOT NA PAGHIHINTAY PARA SA PAGHUHUKOM..."

explain ko baka hnd nyo naintindihan... sabi d2 ala ng handog para sa kasalanan. ibig sabihin ang naging handog para sa kasalanan ay si Jesus so kung nagpapatuloy pa tayu sa kasalanan sorry ka nalng wala ng natitira pang handog para doon. paghuhukom at nagngangalit na apoy. pero wait there is more... meron pang purgatory para diretso na tayu sa heaven. CONTRADIC DBA? meditate on the verse unawain maigi at sana sa verse kau magcoment... i will entertain if sa verse na ito kau magcocoment.

 

[nilesthorn]

Needless 2 say f ur a Roman Catholic then theres n0thing m0re 2 say,i do beleive n purgatory the cleansing of sins,n0thing can ever change my belief

 

[Furbooz]

Actually guys merong purgatoryo, nasa bible yan.

Tinanggal ng ibang pari yung ibang books sa bible.

Search niyo nalang sa google yung mga tinanggal na books na kasama ang purgatoryo. Hindi kasi naniniwala ang mga Pari sa book na yun eh. Pero parang mali kasi ginawa ng pari. Sabi nga ng diyos wag daw dagdagan at kulangin ang salita nya sa bibliya. Pero sakin it's a big ? kung bakit nila tinanggal.

EDIT:

Eto po pala yung isa sa mga book na naglalaman ng purgatoryo, ang book na Maccabees.

 

[rjlaforteza]

Ano po ba pagkakaintindi nyo sa 1 Corinthians 3:15 di po ba dumaan po siya ng apoy subalit siya ay maliligtas.

I will use the 1611 King James Version of the Bible, a famous Protestant translation.

1 Corinthians 3:15 (KJV) "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.”

1 Corinto 3:15 (KJV) "Kung ang gawa ng sinoman ay masunog, ay malulugi siya: nguni't siya sa kaniyang sarili ay maliligtas; gayon ma'y tulad sa pamamagitan ng apoy."

Di po ba maliwanag yan ano pa ibig sabihin niyan nasa Biblya po maliwanag po yan ang tinutukoy po ay purgatoryo.

Purgatory is not for those who have died in the state of serious (i.e., mortal) sin. All such persons go to Hell, as is made clear in Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Cor. 6:9, and Ephesians 5:5-8. Purgatory is for those of the true faith who have been forgiven for their sins, but have yet to make full satisfaction for the sins they have committed (more on this below).

Therefore, in 1 Corinthians 3:12, the wood, hay and stubble (which are burned) signify the works of a man who has died in the state of justification and has been forgiven of any mortal sins he might have committed. He is therefore eventually saved, but he hasn’t made satisfaction for sins committed after baptism.


THE CASE OF DAVID IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF A MAN WHO HAS BEEN FORGIVEN OF HIS SIN, BUT HASN’T MADE FULL SATISFACTION FOR IT

A great example of a man who has been forgiven of his serious sin, but hasn’t made satisfaction for it, is found in the case of David. In 2nd Samuel 11 (2 Kings 11 in the Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible), we read that King David committed adultery with Bathsheba. David also had her husband killed. These are mortal sins. If David would have died in that state, he would have gone to Hell. 1 Cor. 6:9 shows us that no adulterers or murderers will enter Heaven. But David repented of his sin when convicted of it by Nathan in 2 Samuel 12.

2 Samuel 12:13 (KJV) “And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, the Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.”

2 Samuel 12:13 (KJV) "At sinabi ni David kay Nathan, Ako'y nagkasala laban sa Panginoon. At sinabi ni Nathan kay David, Inalis din ng Panginoon ang iyong kasalanan; hindi ka mamamatay."

The Lord took away David’s sin, and Nathan said that he would not die. This means that he would not eternally die. The guilt of the sin was forgiven because David truly repented and turned from it, but was that the end of it? No, full satisfaction for this
mortal sin had not been made. We read in 2 Samuel 12:14-15 that David had to suffer the loss of his child to make satisfaction for his sin – a sin which had already been forgiven.

2 Samuel 12:14-15 (KJV) “… because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. And Nathan departed unto his house. And the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.”

2 Samuel 12:14-15 (KJV) "Gayon ma'y sapagka't sa gawang ito'y iyong binigyan ng malaking pagkakataon ang mga kaaway ng Panginoon upang magsipanungayaw, ang bata naman na ipinanganak sa iyo ay walang pagsalang mamamatay. At si Nathan ay umuwi sa kaniyang bahay. At sinaktan ng Panginoon ang bata na ipinanganak ng asawa ni Uria kay David, at totoong malubha."

This provides undeniable proof that the guilt of a sin of a believer can be forgiven without the entire punishment being taken away. The Council of Trent put it this way:

Pope Julius III, Council of Trent, on the Sacrament of Penance, Sess. 14, Chap. 8, Nov. 25, 1551 “… it is absolutely false and contrary to the word of God that the guilt [of a sin] is never forgiven by the Lord without the entire punishment also being remitted. For clear and illustrious examples are found in the Sacred Writings [cf. Gen. 3:16 f; Num. 12:14; Num 20:11; II Kings 12:13 f.; etc.].” (Denzinger 904)

In this citation from the Council of Trent, we see references to numerous places in Scripture where a sin is forgiven without the entire punishment also being remitted. The example from Numbers 20 should be quoted.

Numbers 20:11-12 (KJV) “And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also. And the Lord spoke unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.”

Numbers 20:11-12 (KJV) "At itinaas ni Moises ang kaniyang kamay, at pinalong makalawa ang bato ng kaniyang tungkod: at ang tubig ay lumabas na sagana, at ang kapisanan ay uminom at ang kanilang mga hayop. At sinabi ng Panginoon kay Moises at kay Aaron, Sapagka't hindi kayo sumampalataya sa akin upang ipakilala ninyong banal ako sa mga mata ng mga anak ni Israel, kaya't hindi ninyo dadalhin ang kapisanang ito sa lupain na aking ibinigay sa kanila."

When Moses, in obedience to God’s command, struck the rock in order to miraculously bring forth water, there was a certain level of hesitation in the act or in the manner in which he and Aaron presented it to the people. A Catholic commentary explains it: “The fault of Moses and Aaron, on this occasion, was a certain diffidence and weakness of faith; not doubting of God’s power or veracity; but apprehending the unworthiness of that rebellious and incredulous people, and therefore speaking with some ambiguity” (Douay-Rheims Commentary).

As a result, God told Moses and Aaron that they would not be the ones to bring the people into the promised land. This was their punishment, even though they remained in God’s favor. This punishment was fulfilled. It was Joshua and Caleb who led the people into the promised land.

 

[rjlaforteza]

NOTHING IMPURE SHALL ENTER HEAVEN

This kind of satisfaction for the remaining punishment due to forgiven sins is often done on Earth by good works and prayers, by suffering trials and tribulations, and by a more perfect adherence to the true faith. If such satisfaction is not done on Earth, it is and must be done in Purgatory – assuming that the person dies in the state of grace (justification). The satisfaction must be done because the Book of Revelation, the Apocalypse, makes it clear that nothing impure shall enter Heaven

Revelation 21:27 (KJV) “There shall not enter into it anything defiled, or that worketh abomination or maketh a lie, but they that are written in the book of life of the Lamb.”

Revelation 21:27 (KJV) "At hindi papasok doon sa anomang paraan ang anomang bagay na karumaldumal, o siyang gumagawa ng kasuklamsuklam at ng kasinungalingan: kundi yaon lamang na mga nakasulat sa aklat ng buhay ng Cordero."

We see the same thing in the Book of Hebrews.

Hebrews 12:14 (KJV) “Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord.”

Hebrews 12:14 (KJV) "Sundin ninyo ang kapayapaan sa lahat ng mga tao, at ang pagpapakabanal na kung wala ito'y sinoman ay di makakakita sa Panginoon."

Now it must be emphasized that Purgatory is not for those who die in mortal sin or outside the true faith. It’s only for those who die in the state of grace, which is also known as the state of justification. It’s for those who die in grace, but haven’t satisfied for the temporal punishment due to their forgiven mortal or venial sins, which were committed after baptism.


THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT THERE ARE MORTAL SINS AND LESSER (VENIAL) SINS

Mortal sins destroy the state of justification. That’s why Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Cor. 6:9, and Ephesians 5:5-8 teach that people who commit such mortal sins lose “their inheritance” in Heaven (justification). Examples of mortal sins are fornication, murder,
drunkenness, lying, cheating, stealing, fraud, theft, masturbation, looking at pornography, giving full consent to impure thoughts, homosexuality, heresy, idolatry, violating the commandments, etc. If people die in the state of mortal sin, they will be damned. 1 John 5:16 distinguishes between sins which lead to death and sins which don’t.

1 John 5:16 (KJV) “If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.”

1 John 5:16 (KJV) "Kung makita ng sinoman na ang kaniyang kapatid ay nagkakasala ng kasalanang hindi ikamamatay, ay idalangin siya at bibigyan siya ng Dios ng buhay, na ukol sa mga nagkakasala nang hindi ikamamatay. May kasalanang ikamamatay: hindi tungkol dito ang sinasabi ko na idalangin niya.Lahat ng kalikuan ay kasalanan: at may kasalanang hindi ikamamatay."

In their consciences people know that there is a great difference between murder and something such as unjustifiable outbursts of anger or impatience. The former is clearly a mortal sin, while the latter is a venial sin. (Anger can also be justifiable, by the way.)

Venial sins (i.e., lesser offenses against God) weaken the soul, and make it more vulnerable to mortal sin. Mortal sins destroy the state of justification and put one in a state of damnation. That’s why immediately after the verse which proves Purgatory (1 Cor. 3:15), we read this:

1 Corinthians 3:17 (KJV) “If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.”

1 Corinthians 3:17 (KJV) "Kung gibain ng sinoman ang templo ng Dios, siya'y igigiba ng Dios; sapagka't ang templo ng Dios ay banal, na ang templong ito ay kayo."

This speaks of those who die in mortal sin: unjustified. They will be lost.

1 Corinthians 3:17 is quite significant to this discussion. It demonstrates that the context of 1 Cor. 3 deals with sins. This is important. If 1 Cor. 3:15 indeed refers to a man who is suffering loss (punishment) for his sins and being saved by fire (as it is), then there is no doubt that it is referring to Purgatory.

In an attempt to escape that conclusion, some non-Catholics who deny Purgatory argue that the context of 1 Cor. 3 doesn’t deal with sins, just bad works. They construct a (false) dichotomy between sins and bad works, as if they are two separate categories. They say that there are bad works which are not sins. But that attempt fails miserably in light of 1 Cor. 3:17 (above). 1 Cor. 3:17 demonstrates that the context deals with sins for which some of them are being destroyed (damned). Further, the New Testament does not teach that there is a difference between sins and bad works.

All of this establishes that the lesser sins or the satisfactions or imperfections which are left over for some and burned up in 1 Cor. 3:15 are indeed punishments for sins in Purgatory..