How to make your own home solar. With Pictures + solar book

[ronnel25]

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yup... pwedeng pwede!

hohoohohohoho

galing galing
aus n my mggmit n ako,,
ndi nmn siguro mallolobat nan ang bat

pede b ang ganun parallel series?

salamat

 

[awinahe]

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hohoohohohoho

galing galing
aus n my mggmit n ako,,
ndi nmn siguro mallolobat nan ang bat

pede b ang ganun parallel series?
salamat

ano ba yun tinatanong mo na parallel series?

 

[ronnel25]

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ano ba yun tinatanong mo na parallel series?

nyaahahha kulang uli ako,,

2 fan po ang illagay q sana

parallel series b?

 

[awinahe]

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nyaahahha kulang uli ako,,

2 fan po ang illagay q sana

parallel series b?

hehehe... dapat in parallel

 

[ronnel25]

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hehehe... dapat in parallel

ok n ok n



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working

 

[awinahe]

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ok n ok n



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working

Nice

 

[cherrymac]

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boss pano pag tatlo ang panel panu po connection nito sa isat isa.? parallel din ba boss....???

and kaya ba ng 50watts panel ang isang 100ah battery.? direct charge...

 

[awinahe]

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boss pano pag tatlo ang panel panu po connection nito sa isat isa.? parallel din ba boss....???

and kaya ba ng 50watts panel ang isang 100ah battery.? direct charge...

yes to both questions!

 

[wazzink]

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ma'am cherrymac...

let me help by citing the case of ronnel25...

in the beginning.... ronnel setup is 100W panel >100Ah batt >20A charge controller >1000VA inverter... the load is 65W electric fan

but... ronnel wanted the panel to be "fast charging"... so he removed the controller =

... 100W panel >100Ah batt >1000VA inverter... the load is 65W electric fan... and so the charging is faster than before..

but... ronnel wanted to use the electric fan for longer hours... and so he is planning to add 1 more 100Ah battery

to be continued (not yet tested)

... as you can see... ronnel can use or NOT USE the controller...

if you use the controller, then you will not MANUALLY monitor the charging of the battery (it is the job of the controller)

if you will NOT USE the controller, then you physically became the CHARGE CONTROLLER yourself.

.... alien?

i believe Tristan promotes here the use of charge controllers, and so am i
risky kung deretso sa batt ang panels, mlamang mashorten ang batt life, lalo na pag high power panels.
mahal pa man din ang battery.
imagine an intersection na walang traffic law enforcer at wlang traffic light, siguradong magiging accident prone area yun.

 

[awinahe]

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i believe Tristan promotes here the use of charge controllers, and so am i
risky kung deretso sa batt ang panels, mlamang mashorten ang batt life, lalo na pag high power panels.
mahal pa man din ang battery.
imagine an intersection na walang traffic law enforcer at wlang traffic light, siguradong magiging accident prone area yun.

sure if the total panel wattage is equal or higher than the battery Ah... I'm using my battery banks 360 Ah with 150 watts panel without controller since more than one year... never have to add water, my bat charge at the same pace... the thing is the bat should always have a load to avoid fast charging and be always monitored....
I don't say that people should not use a controller, I just say it is possible without harm to the bat, to have a solar system without controller under certain conditions and with some precautions...

 

[cherrymac]

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i believe Tristan promotes here the use of charge controllers, and so am i
risky kung deretso sa batt ang panels, mlamang mashorten ang batt life, lalo na pag high power panels.
mahal pa man din ang battery.
imagine an intersection na walang traffic law enforcer at wlang traffic light, siguradong magiging accident prone area yun.

parang di naman po kasi working yung solar charger controller. parang di sya nag.cha charge sa battery...


diba ang controller 12volt ang coconect mo dun? example : a 12volts light or 12v TV. ryt? so ang inverter ba pwidi po saksak sa controller?

 

[ronnel25]

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parang di naman po kasi working yung solar charger controller. parang di sya nag.cha charge sa battery...


diba ang controller 12volt ang coconect mo dun? example : a 12volts light or 12v TV. ryt? so ang inverter ba pwidi po saksak sa controller?

ako man gumagamit ako ng controller, pero sa laki ng load, matagal ang charge ng battert while using
dahil nga malaki ang load q, inalis q muna ang controller q para kahit gamit ang battery while charging, medjo tumagal ang discharge ngaun

ang conntroller--nag cocontrol po sya ng overcharge, pagbalik ng charge sa panel, overvoltage,etc..

 

[TristanWS]

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... actually what i'm promoting here is the "sharing of knowledge"... to help us implement our own alternative source of electricity... kasi imposibleng TURUAN tayo ng ating sari-sariling electric company!

halimbawa ngayon... sa isyu na... NO CONTROLLER? or WITH CONTROLLER?... ito ang share ko:

maski naman sa AC battery charger ay dalawang klase rin...
1. manual battery charger... (bulk charge only, and have little (if any) voltage regulation)
2. automatic battery charger... (3 basic stages: Bulk, Absorption, and Float)

"Most garage and consumer (automotive) type battery chargers are bulk charge only, and have little (if any) voltage regulation. They are fine for a quick boost to low batteries, but not to leave on for long periods.".... meaning OFF mo na pag tapos ka na mag-charge.

Source: http://www.solar-electric.com/deep-cycle-battery-faq.html

Conclusion: kung wala kang oras na mag-monitor ng battery (katulad ko)... gumamit ka ng charge controller.... pero check mo rin kung talagang gumagana!

 

[ronnel25]

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off topic mga sir

ask q lng ano tawag sa pede sukatin ang init or lamig ng isang room?

saan ako pede mkabili nito

tnx

 

[arman666]

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nyaahahha kulang uli ako,,

2 fan po ang illagay q sana

parallel series b?

hi, ronnel25.

nag-backread po ako, correct me if i'm wrong.

eto po setup mo 12v batt, without charge controller, 2 pcs 12v cpu/cooling fan in parallel connection...

kung wala pong charge controller, voltage output po nyan ay 19-21v from panel, then nag-konek ka po ng 2 pcs 12v cpu/cooling fan in parallel connection sa battery...malaki po chance na sirain yang fan nyo!kasi po from panel ay 19-21v.

now,solution ko po dyan is a 6ampere diode sa positive po ng wire ng 12v cpu/cooling fan nyo po idugtong, ang task po ng 6ampere diode ay to release an stable 12v output from the battery to prevent na masunog yung maliit na motor ng 12v cpu/cooling fan.

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may polarity po ito, yung may white band po ay positive at yung kabilang dulo po ay negative.

yung connection po ganito...batt positive terminal->negative wire diode->positive wire diode->positive wire po ng 12v cpu/cooling fan.

mga P30 lang po yang diode, gawin nyo na po bago masunog yang maliit na motor nyo...ganyan din po kasi ginawa ko dito, mukhang 1 step ahead yata ako pagdating sa experimentation...palibhasa mga 3 pcs na rin nasunog kong ganyan, bago ko na-realize, lol...

yan din po solution sa mga starter battery(e.g. truck/car battery)

regarding sa connection po:

for parallel:12v+12v=12v

for series:12v+12v=24v

TRIVIA:
an ampere is defined as the amount of charge flowing per second...
source: http://www.nature.com/news/ampere-to-get-rational-redefinition-1.14512

ibig pong sabihin need natin ng mas mataas na ampere input|(e.g. panel w/o controller), para sa mas mataas na ampere output(e.g. ref, fan motor, CRT TV). madalas po ginagamit natin ay mga 20ampere controller...so, kung gusto po nating nag-tsacharge batt natin sa araw and at the same time ay gumagamit tayo ng appliances, masdan po natin kung ilang ampere ang input at output natin.

 

[ronnel25]

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hi, ronnel25.

nag-backread po ako, correct me if i'm wrong.

eto po setup mo 12v batt, without charge controller, 2 pcs 12v cpu/cooling fan in parallel connection...

kung wala pong charge controller, voltage output po nyan ay 19-21v from panel, then nag-konek ka po ng 2 pcs 12v cpu/cooling fan in parallel connection sa battery...malaki po chance na sirain yang fan nyo!kasi po from panel ay 19-21v.

now,solution ko po dyan is a 6ampere diode sa positive po ng wire ng 12v cpu/cooling fan nyo po idugtong, ang task po ng 6ampere diode ay to release an stable 12v output from the battery to prevent na masunog yung maliit na motor ng 12v cpu/cooling fan.

View attachment 879600
may polarity po ito, yung may white band po ay positive at yung kabilang dulo po ay negative.

yung connection po ganito...batt positive terminal->negative wire diode->positive wire diode->positive wire po ng 12v cpu/cooling fan.

mga P30 lang po yang diode, gawin nyo na po bago masunog yang maliit na motor nyo...ganyan din po kasi ginawa ko dito, mukhang 1 step ahead yata ako pagdating sa experimentation...palibhasa mga 3 pcs na rin nasunog kong ganyan, bago ko na-realize, lol...

yan din po solution sa mga starter battery(e.g. truck/car battery)

regarding sa connection po:

for parallel:12v+12v=12v

for series:12v+12v=24v

TRIVIA:
an ampere is defined as the amount of charge flowing per second...
source: http://www.nature.com/news/ampere-to-get-rational-redefinition-1.14512

ibig pong sabihin need natin ng mas mataas na ampere input|(e.g. panel w/o controller), para sa mas mataas na ampere output(e.g. ref, fan motor, CRT TV). madalas po ginagamit natin ay mga 20ampere controller...so, kung gusto po nating nag-tsacharge batt natin sa araw and at the same time ay gumagamit tayo ng appliances, masdan po natin kung ilang ampere ang input at output natin.

actually sir 1 fan lng gamit q ngaun ndi p ako na g 2 fan

ang battery while charging without load umaabot p ng 14v+

ewan q lng pag charging with load 12v cooling fan?

ganito ba sir
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[arman666]

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so ang inverter ba pwidi po saksak sa controller?

pwede po in theory, as long as ang controller ampere at panel ampere ay mataas, i tried a 3watts panel connected to a 12v dc or usb fan, w/o controller but with a 6ampere diode...so far gumana naman po. but yang tanong nyo po ay matagal ko ng gustong subukan, ang inverter nyo po kaya ilang ampere na yan plus pa yung ibibigay nyong load(eg. fan,tv, light)

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actually sir 1 fan lng gamit q ngaun ndi p ako na g 2 fan

ang battery while charging without load umaabot p ng 14v+

ewan q lng pag charging with load 12v cooling fan?

ganito ba sir
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opo, fast learner, batang genius, bonna kid, lol.

make sure po pala ng polarity, parang series lang yan, positive(+), negative(-), positive(+), yung image niyo po kasi nakalimutan nyong i-emphasize yung white band / positive

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happy b-day sakin bukas, same po kami ni pinoy,

 

[TristanWS]

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TRIVIA:
an ampere is defined as the amount of charge flowing per second...
source: http://www.nature.com/news/ampere-to-get-rational-redefinition-1.14512

ibig pong sabihin need natin ng mas mataas na ampere input|(e.g. panel w/o controller), para sa mas mataas na ampere output(e.g. ref, fan motor, CRT TV). madalas po ginagamit natin ay mga 20ampere controller...so, kung gusto po nating nag-tsacharge batt natin sa araw and at the same time ay gumagamit tayo ng appliances, masdan po natin kung ilang ampere ang input at output natin.

ito ba ang isyu na tinutukoy mo?

assuming na parehong 100Ah ang itsa-charge na battery, sino ang mas mabilis mag-charge? parehong w/out charge controller

1. si ma'am TS (3 x 50W panel).. or si
2. ronnel (1 x 100W panel)

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@ronnel25:"...ask q lng ano tawag sa pede sukatin ang init or lamig ng isang room?" .... sa mga digital wall clock, meron room thermometer display

===== back to sir arman...

... hehe, nakalimutan kong mag-greet ng HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!... how young na ba sir?

 

[awinahe]

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Originally Posted by cherrymac
so ang inverter ba pwidi po saksak sa controller?

In theory it is possible but not recommended at all...the current draw by the appliance thru the inverter, in most cases, may be far too high for the solar controller to handle and could cause serious damage

hi, ronnel25.

nag-backread po ako, correct me if i'm wrong.

eto po setup mo 12v batt, without charge controller, 2 pcs 12v cpu/cooling fan in parallel connection...

kung wala pong charge controller, voltage output po nyan ay 19-21v from panel, then nag-konek ka po ng 2 pcs 12v cpu/cooling fan in parallel connection sa battery...malaki po chance na sirain yang fan nyo!kasi po from panel ay 19-21v.

now,solution ko po dyan is a 6ampere diode sa positive po ng wire ng 12v cpu/cooling fan nyo po idugtong, ang task po ng 6ampere diode ay to release an stable 12v output from the battery to prevent na masunog yung maliit na motor ng 12v cpu/cooling fan.

View attachment 879600
may polarity po ito, yung may white band po ay positive at yung kabilang dulo po ay negative.

yung connection po ganito...batt positive terminal->negative wire diode->positive wire diode->positive wire po ng 12v cpu/cooling fan.

mga P30 lang po yang diode, gawin nyo na po bago masunog yang maliit na motor nyo...ganyan din po kasi ginawa ko dito, mukhang 1 step ahead yata ako pagdating sa experimentation...palibhasa mga 3 pcs na rin nasunog kong ganyan, bago ko na-realize, lol...

yan din po solution sa mga starter battery(e.g. truck/car battery)

regarding sa connection po:

for parallel:12v+12v=12v

for series:12v+12v=24v

TRIVIA:
an ampere is defined as the amount of charge flowing per second...
source: http://www.nature.com/news/ampere-to-get-rational-redefinition-1.14512

ibig pong sabihin need natin ng mas mataas na ampere input|(e.g. panel w/o controller), para sa mas mataas na ampere output(e.g. ref, fan motor, CRT TV). madalas po ginagamit natin ay mga 20ampere controller...so, kung gusto po nating nag-tsacharge batt natin sa araw and at the same time ay gumagamit tayo ng appliances, masdan po natin kung ilang ampere ang input at output natin.

A 12 volt fan can handle the difference of voltage, it does not need a diode... actually a 12 volt fan (like some other few appliances as a water pump for example) can be connected directly to a solar panel without battery or controller as long as the panel is not more than 10 watts.
I have 2 of these small 12 volts fans plug directly to my battery bank, they run at least 12 hrs a day for several months and never burn!





A word about charge controller:
Many people dismounted already the cheap charge controllers we have here in the Philippines to found out that they act only like a switch when the voltage reach a certain point... but none of them do what they should: they don't charge the bat in 3 "intelligent" stages... meaning that with or without controller, the battery is charged in "bulk"... unless you buy the very expensive ones imported from Europe!

 

[ronnel25]

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pwede po in theory, as long as ang controller ampere at panel ampere ay mataas, i tried a 3watts panel connected to a 12v dc or usb fan, w/o controller but with a 6ampere diode...so far gumana naman po. but yang tanong nyo po ay matagal ko ng gustong subukan, ang inverter nyo po kaya ilang ampere na yan plus pa yung ibibigay nyong load(eg. fan,tv, light)

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opo, fast learner, batang genius, bonna kid, lol.

make sure po pala ng polarity, parang series lang yan, positive(+), negative(-), positive(+), yung image niyo po kasi nakalimutan nyong i-emphasize yung white band / positive

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happy b-day sakin bukas, same po kami ni pinoy,

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sir bago lahat

Happy b-day

ito n po sir ung bago gawa diagram q heheh

pede n ba ^_^
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