How to make your own home solar. With Pictures + solar book

[awinahe]

mam yung extension double wire na no.16 kapag pinag isa ang dalawa ay magiging #awg no.8 na,plus yung isa pang stranded wire no.8,kapag pinag isa ang dalawang no.8 ay magiging #awg no.4,kaya meron akong dalawang #awg no.4 na wire para sa dalawang linya,tama po ba?kung solid wire ano pagkakaiba nito?
parang ganito;
2 wire no.16 x parallel connection=no.8
2wire no.8 x parallel connection=no.4

Actually there is no difference between the 2 regarding how the electricity flows... but solid wire is really safer to use for outside wiring as it is less prone to corrosion (that's why stranded wire is banned in the US outside because of fire hazard). Plus the plastic cover used for the #16 wire, here in the Philippines, is bad quality and it will not last long under the sun... once it starts to crack, that's when it starts to be dangerous!

 

[blackthief]

thanks po sa feedback
temporary wiring muna habang wala pang pambili malaking wire,

 

[poseidon]

17Ah/20HR Panasonic rechargeable battery
Ibig sabihin po ba hanggang .85 lang dapat ang discharge rate per hour? Hindi tatagal ang battery kapag lumampas sa sa .85? Assuming naka float charge ang battery at may load na mahigit 1ampere masisira din kaya ang battery?

 

[TristanWS]

sir poseidon

afaik, ang battery standard rating sa Pinas ay 20hr... (sa ibang bansa ay 10hr)... example the Panasonic 17Ah/20HR was tested by the company Panasonic under laboratory condition, by applying a load of 0.85A over the course of 20 hours until it is zero volts.... meaning kapag 12 hrs pa lang ay zero volts na, bagsak ang battery sa quality standard.

HOWEVER, ibang istorya naman ang PROPER charge/discharge rate ng lead acid battery... marami na akong post about this... at base sa mga readings ko sa internet, ang PROPER charge/discharge rate ng lead acid battery ay C/10 (capacity divided by 10)... so in the case of 17Ah battery, 1.7A (17Ah/10) ang DAPAT na charge/discharge rate... kapag ang load ay mahigit 1.7A, hindi na masaya ang nasabing battery.

 

[poseidon]

Ibig sabihn pala ay match lang or safe pa sa 17ah lead acid battery ko ang 15 watts 12vdc fan na load at 30 watts na solar panel. Gamit during peak sunny hours from 9am to 3pm. 1.6Ampere lang ang max charge rate ng 30watts panel ko. (Tanghaling tapat)

 

[TristanWS]

Ibig sabihn pala ay match lang or safe pa sa 17ah lead acid battery ko ang 15 watts 12vdc fan na load at 30 watts na solar panel. Gamit during peak sunny hours from 9am to 3pm. 1.6Ampere lang ang max charge rate ng 30watts panel ko. (Tanghaling tapat)

yes, match na match (one day backup)... at kung ang DoD mo ay 50%, less than 6 hours ay full charge na ang 17Ah batt mo...

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SM North Edsa, world’s biggest solar-powered mall
By Riza T. Olchondra, Inquirer.net, Nov. 21, 2014

Solar power system provider Solar Philippines is “energizing” SM North Edsa with a 1.5-megawatt (MW) solar facility, making it the world’s biggest solar-powered mall.

The solar plant at SM North Edsa will be formally inaugurated on Nov. 24 and augment the mall’s electricity requirements, Solar Philippines said in a statement. Last Sept. 20, Solar Philippines also launched the 700-kW Central Mall Biñan solar project, the first and biggest own-use solar rooftop power plant in Southeast Asia.

Seeking to demonstrate how solar power systems can be applied to modern urban settings, Solar Philippines outfitted the North Edsa parking building with 5,760 solar panels and 60 inverters covering more than 12,000 square meters. The 1.5-MW plant’s capacity, translated into more concrete terms, can power the basic needs of 2,000 Filipino homes.

Solar Philippines added that the system was expected to operate for more than 25 years and offset an estimated 40,000 tons of carbon dioxide emission, or the equivalent of planting 200,000 trees.

Led by founder and president Leandro Leviste, Solar Philippines said it was taking the lead in accelerating the adoption of solar energy as a solution to climate change and the power crisis. The company’s mission is to make solar power affordable and accessible to every home and business in the country.

Read more:
http://technology.inquirer.net/39483/worlds-biggest-solar-powered-mall-in-ph
http://www.bworldonline.com/content...rgest-mall-to-tap-power-from-the-sun&id=98298

 

[awinahe]

SM North Edsa, world’s biggest solar-powered mall
By Riza T. Olchondra, Inquirer.net, Nov. 21, 2014

http://adserver.bworldonline.com/webpics/articles/image/20141120845e8.jpg
Solar power system provider Solar Philippines is “energizing” SM North Edsa with a 1.5-megawatt (MW) solar facility, making it the world’s biggest solar-powered mall.

The solar plant at SM North Edsa will be formally inaugurated on Nov. 24 and augment the mall’s electricity requirements, Solar Philippines said in a statement. Last Sept. 20, Solar Philippines also launched the 700-kW Central Mall Biñan solar project, the first and biggest own-use solar rooftop power plant in Southeast Asia.

Seeking to demonstrate how solar power systems can be applied to modern urban settings, Solar Philippines outfitted the North Edsa parking building with 5,760 solar panels and 60 inverters covering more than 12,000 square meters. The 1.5-MW plant’s capacity, translated into more concrete terms, can power the basic needs of 2,000 Filipino homes.

Solar Philippines added that the system was expected to operate for more than 25 years and offset an estimated 40,000 tons of carbon dioxide emission, or the equivalent of planting 200,000 trees.

Led by founder and president Leandro Leviste, Solar Philippines said it was taking the lead in accelerating the adoption of solar energy as a solution to climate change and the power crisis. The company’s mission is to make solar power affordable and accessible to every home and business in the country.

Read more:
http://technology.inquirer.net/39483/worlds-biggest-solar-powered-mall-in-ph
http://www.bworldonline.com/content...rgest-mall-to-tap-power-from-the-sun&id=98298

I was about to post the same info when I saw your post but this is GREAT

 

[busar]

Sir/Ma'am, pa advice/help naman po..ano magandang setup for: Panel, Cc at Battery..salamat

eto po yung load.
1. 10 dc lights 5w each (12hrs)
2. 1 dc fan 13w (8hrs)
3. 1 dc LED TV 24w (8hrs)

 

[jag2002]

Gud pm mam ts, o kung sino po nakakaalam kung ano po ang posible value ng regular capacitor para sa panel?series po ba o parallel connection?TIA

 

[neilpatrick12]

Re: You want to make your own home solar? Pasok!

Sir, Okay lang po ba kapag ganito

20 Watts Solar Panel
Power Controller
2x6v 4ah Battery
Power Inverter 12 - 220 600 Watts


Tama lang po ba or may mali po?
tulong naman po please salamat
at ano po kaya niyang paganahin sa tingin niyo po
Salamat.

 

[awinahe]

Re: You want to make your own home solar? Pasok!

Sir/Ma'am, pa advice/help naman po..ano magandang setup for: Panel, Cc at Battery..salamat

eto po yung load.
1. 10 dc lights 5w each (12hrs)
2. 1 dc fan 13w (8hrs)
3. 1 dc LED TV 24w (8hrs)

1rst: Where did you find your led tv in 12 volts, what size and how much

ok, now some computations:
10 x 5 w led lights running 12 hrs = 600 watts and 600 watts/12 volts = 50 amperes
13 watt fan x 8 hrs = 104 watts and 104 watts/12 volts = 9 amperes
24 watt tv x 8 hrs = 192 watts and 192 watts/12 = 16 amperes

So all in all, you will need a battery able to provide you 75 amperes, but, as you know, you cannot discharge a battery more than 50% of its capacity so you need a battery 2 x 75 amperes = 150 amperes. Then, we need to think of the inevitable loss, so let's say that with a 200 Ah battery you will have enough to power safely all your appliances and more pa!

Now, if you don't want to use a controller and if you can monitor manually with a digital multitester the charge of your battery 2 or 3 times a day, you will just need 70 watt or 80 watt solar panel and you will be good to go!

If you cannot monitor your battery manually, you will need a charge controller to do it for you, In this case, you need more solar panels. If you can buy a 20 amp MPPT charge controller, you will need 200 watt solar panels. If you can buy only a PWM controller you will need 250 watt solar panels... MPPT controllers are more expensive but a lot better!!

Gud pm mam ts, o kung sino po nakakaalam kung ano po ang posible value ng regular capacitor para sa panel?series po ba o parallel connection?TIA

I'm not sure I understand your question... where to you want to put a capacitor? Between the panel and battery? As far as I know there is no capacitor sa panel mismo, maybe a diode?

Sir, Okay lang po ba kapag ganito

20 Watts Solar Panel
Power Controller
2x6v 4ah Battery
Power Inverter 12 - 220 600 Watts

Tama lang po ba or may mali po?
tulong naman po please salamat
at ano po kaya niyang paganahin sa tingin niyo po
Salamat.

What to you want to power? with this small 4 Ah bat you will not be able to power a lot, especially with a 600 watt inverter... the inverter by itself might consume the 4Ah of the battery! If you want to power lights only, you need led dc bulbs and no inverter... pls, tell us more on what you want to power...

 

[TristanWS]

Re: You want to make your own home solar? Pasok!

Sir, Okay lang po ba kapag ganito: 20 Watts Solar Panel, Controller, 2x6v 4ah Battery, Inverter 12 - 220 600 Watts - neilpatrick12

meron na ganyan ready made cdr king "solar power kit 150W", Php 4,580.00 (link below);
http://www.cdrking.com/index.php?pr...+power+kit&x=16&y=14&mod=products&type=search
ginagamit sa two 3W 12VDC led bulb, charging mobile phone, at small electric fan.

IMO, masyado maliit ang 8AH battery para sa 600W inverter... discharge agad yan maski wala ka pang pinapagana.

inauguration of SM City North EDSA's solar-powered rooftop today, Nov 24, 2014

This picture was taken during the inauguration of San Carlos Solar Energy plant, May 15, 2014.

... copy/paste ko yung parte ng speech ni Pnoy during the inauguration of SM City North EDSA's solar-powered rooftop today, Nov 24, 2014... meron daw incentives doon sa mga gustong mag invest sa renewable energy... sana ay totoo ito para mag-mura na ang presyo ng mga solar parts and components.

"By providing incentives such as tax holidays and duty-free importations on materials and equipment, government seeks to incentivize investments into renewable energy. Just last May, we inaugurated the San Carlos Solar Energy plant, which is the first large-scale commercially financed and commissioned solar power plant in the Philippines under our administration. Then, as today (Nov 14, 2014), we encourage all investors to study their options carefully and act before the cap on renewable energy has been met. Perhaps, they can also be inspired by the example of Mr. Leandro Leviste, who at 21-years old has taken it upon himself to play a role in maximizing the potential of the solar industry through Solar Philippines."

President Benigno Aquino lll leads the switching on of the solar rooftop project of SM Supermalls along EDSA North in Quezon City on Monday, November 24. Also in photo are House Speaker Sonny Belmonte, Energy Secretary Jericho Petilla, Solar Philippines President Leandro Leviste, and SM Prime Holdings President Hans Sy. Ryan Lim

 

[neilpatrick12]

Re: You want to make your own home solar? Pasok!

bali 8ah po kapag pinag sama yung dalawang battery. para po sana isaksak ko ito po https://www.lazada.com.ph/4-in-1-usb-port-fast-charger-21a-104449.html
ilan po ba mairerecommend niyo po sa akin na watts ng inverter? at tska meron po ba kayong alam na build in na solar set yung price 2 - 3k po. meron po kasi akong nakita GDLITE 8012 build in na po siya 60 watts pwedeng saksakan ng 220. meron pa po ba kayong alam na build in na may 220v salamat

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meron na ganyan ready made cdr king "solar power kit 150W", Php 4,580.00 (link below);
http://www.cdrking.com/index.php?pr...+power+kit&x=16&y=14&mod=products&type=search
ginagamit sa two 3W 12VDC led bulb, charging mobile phone, at small electric fan.

IMO, masyado maliit ang 8AH battery para sa 600W inverter... discharge agad yan maski wala ka pang pinapagana.

inauguration of SM City North EDSA's solar-powered rooftop today, Nov 24, 2014

http://media.philstar.com/images/th...o-aquino-emergency-powers-energy-shortage.jpg
This picture was taken during the inauguration of San Carlos Solar Energy plant, May 15, 2014.

... copy/paste ko yung parte ng speech ni Pnoy during the inauguration of SM City North EDSA's solar-powered rooftop today, Nov 24, 2014... meron daw incentives doon sa mga gustong mag invest sa renewable energy... sana ay totoo ito para mag-mura na ang presyo ng mga solar parts and components.

"By providing incentives such as tax holidays and duty-free importations on materials and equipment, government seeks to incentivize investments into renewable energy. Just last May, we inaugurated the San Carlos Solar Energy plant, which is the first large-scale commercially financed and commissioned solar power plant in the Philippines under our administration. Then, as today (Nov 14, 2014), we encourage all investors to study their options carefully and act before the cap on renewable energy has been met. Perhaps, they can also be inspired by the example of Mr. Leandro Leviste, who at 21-years old has taken it upon himself to play a role in maximizing the potential of the solar industry through Solar Philippines."

http://images.gmanews.tv/v3/webpics/v3/2014/11/640_2014_11_24_15_05_23.jpg
President Benigno Aquino lll leads the switching on of the solar rooftop project of SM Supermalls along EDSA North in Quezon City on Monday, November 24. Also in photo are House Speaker Sonny Belmonte, Energy Secretary Jericho Petilla, Solar Philippines President Leandro Leviste, and SM Prime Holdings President Hans Sy. Ryan Lim

Ang gusto ko po kasi ang sasaksakan ko eh 220 ano po bang mairerecommend niyo po sa akin? 2 -3k lang po budget. salamat

 

[TristanWS]

Re: You want to make your own home solar? Pasok!

sir neilpatrick12

marami solar power kit sa olx... yung iba ay may built-in usb charger na, kaya hindi mo na kailangan ang inverter... pero hindi ko pa tested personally... pls google "olx + solar power kit"... yung tested ko lang ay yung cdr king... if you want to DIY, isang battery lang ang gamitin mo, example 12AH battery para hindi ka na mag series connection tapos ay "car usb charger 2A" na lang ang gamitin mo para walang inverter.

 

[bongbenitez]

@Sir TristanWS,

Our house is a kilometer or less away from Sm North Edsa.....
Thanks sa set-up nila.....alam ko na saan direction ng solar panels namin and ideal nakatapat.

Antayin ko lumabas sa google maps para mas clear sa akin ang orientation.

yes, match na match (one day backup)... at kung ang DoD mo ay 50%, less than 6 hours ay full charge na ang 17Ah batt mo...

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SM North Edsa, world’s biggest solar-powered mall
By Riza T. Olchondra, Inquirer.net, Nov. 21, 2014

http://adserver.bworldonline.com/webpics/articles/image/20141120845e8.jpg
Solar power system provider Solar Philippines is “energizing” SM North Edsa with a 1.5-megawatt (MW) solar facility, making it the world’s biggest solar-powered mall.

The solar plant at SM North Edsa will be formally inaugurated on Nov. 24 and augment the mall’s electricity requirements, Solar Philippines said in a statement. Last Sept. 20, Solar Philippines also launched the 700-kW Central Mall Biñan solar project, the first and biggest own-use solar rooftop power plant in Southeast Asia.

Seeking to demonstrate how solar power systems can be applied to modern urban settings, Solar Philippines outfitted the North Edsa parking building with 5,760 solar panels and 60 inverters covering more than 12,000 square meters. The 1.5-MW plant’s capacity, translated into more concrete terms, can power the basic needs of 2,000 Filipino homes.

Solar Philippines added that the system was expected to operate for more than 25 years and offset an estimated 40,000 tons of carbon dioxide emission, or the equivalent of planting 200,000 trees.

Led by founder and president Leandro Leviste, Solar Philippines said it was taking the lead in accelerating the adoption of solar energy as a solution to climate change and the power crisis. The company’s mission is to make solar power affordable and accessible to every home and business in the country.

Read more:
http://technology.inquirer.net/39483/worlds-biggest-solar-powered-mall-in-ph
http://www.bworldonline.com/content...rgest-mall-to-tap-power-from-the-sun&id=98298

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@neilpatrick

Nakabili ako niyang GDLITE 8012. I use it mainly for night lights sa room and USB charging.
Kaya naman up to 4 hours every night.
Ang solar panel ay 10watts poly kaya matagal mag charge.
Di ko pa nasubukan yung 220v dahil maliit lang ang built-in battery nito: 7AH.
Ang suggestion ng seller kabit sa external battery then paganahin yung 220v.
Kaya ko binili ito ay dahil din may built-in 220v battery charger with indicator.....puwede dalhin kahit saan....with ac source or solar.


I have another solar set good for lights and USB charging. 10AH battery. Nabili noong Dec 2013 after Yolanda.
Gumagana pa rin but the battery ay pumapalya na.....nag blink na after several minutes of use kahit na more than 5 hours of sunlight and 2 pcs 20AH solar panels.
Na full charge ang battery based sa indicator but di na tumatagal ang lights.
I will change the battery to 18ah this December 2014 para after one year anniversary.

Yang 4ah battery mo pang 6v lights ang application niya because mayroon din ako niyan.
After connecting in series ang 2 pcs 6v 4.6ah batteries then charge ko sa 12v solar set namin, nag bloat yung battery after several days.

at tska meron po ba kayong alam na build in na solar set yung price 2 - 3k po. meron po kasi akong nakita GDLITE 8012 build in na po siya 60 watts pwedeng saksakan ng 220. meron pa po ba kayong alam na build in na may 220v salamat

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Ang gusto ko po kasi ang sasaksakan ko eh 220 ano po bang mairerecommend niyo po sa akin? 2 -3k lang po budget. salamat

 

[jag2002]

To mam ts, salamt po sa pagsagot naisip ko lng po yong capacitor kasi sinabi sakin ng kausap ko sa cdrking na customer, na mas mabuti daw lagyan ng capacitor, kc more than 20 yrs. na sya gumagamit ng solar at pati aircon nya run by solar. Hindi ko lng natanong kung san ilalagay sa panel o sa battery ksi nagmamadali. Maaring starting capacitor? Another tip na binigay nya sa kin maganda daw po gamitin ang royal wire kaso my kamahalan. So plan ko po mam ts na duplex na lng ciguro bilhin ko #12?
I have 100w panel at 100ah bat at CHR-SO27 controller with 75w inverter from cdrking.

 

[bongbenitez]

@Jag2002

Tignan mo maximum amps ng load port and solar panel port ng solar charge controller mo.
Read the manual.
Pag sinabi ang max amps ng load or solar panel ay 30amps, dapat match mo yung ampacity ng wire noon or exceed it.

https://www.gore.com/IndustrialCableConfigurator/popup_hfr_wirespecs.html

Royal cord/wire gagamitin mo ?
Read this:
http://www.phelpsdodge.com.ph/Home/Customer-Support/FAQS.aspx

Always think of safety in mind.

To mam ts, salamt po sa pagsagot naisip ko lng po yong capacitor kasi sinabi sakin ng kausap ko sa cdrking na customer, na mas mabuti daw lagyan ng capacitor, kc more than 20 yrs. na sya gumagamit ng solar at pati aircon nya run by solar. Hindi ko lng natanong kung san ilalagay sa panel o sa battery ksi nagmamadali. Maaring starting capacitor? Another tip na binigay nya sa kin maganda daw po gamitin ang royal wire kaso my kamahalan. So plan ko po mam ts na duplex na lng ciguro bilhin ko #12?
I have 100w panel at 100ah bat at CHR-SO27 controller with 75w inverter from cdrking.

 

[TristanWS]

So plan ko po mam ts na duplex na lng ciguro bilhin ko #12?
I have 100w panel at 100ah bat at CHR-SO27 controller with 75w inverter from cdrking. - jag2002

... ang #12 wire ay kaya up to 20A, therefore ay OK pa yan gamitin sa 100W panel mo kasi about 6A lang ang Isc niyan... HOWEVER, warning lang kita sa CHR-SO27 controller ng cdr king... binuksan ko na yan at nakita ko na masyado undersize ang mga ginamit na wires, pero meron yan built-in na fuse na 7A lang, therefore kapag hindi na gumana, ibig sabihin pumutok na ang fuse...

 

[awinahe]

To mam ts, salamt po sa pagsagot naisip ko lng po yong capacitor kasi sinabi sakin ng kausap ko sa cdrking na customer, na mas mabuti daw lagyan ng capacitor, kc more than 20 yrs. na sya gumagamit ng solar at pati aircon nya run by solar. Hindi ko lng natanong kung san ilalagay sa panel o sa battery ksi nagmamadali. Maaring starting capacitor? Another tip na binigay nya sa kin maganda daw po gamitin ang royal wire kaso my kamahalan. So plan ko po mam ts na duplex na lng ciguro bilhin ko #12?
I have 100w panel at 100ah bat at CHR-SO27 controller with 75w inverter from cdrking.

Some people put capacitor between the battery and inverter but it's not regular capacitors, it's called supercapacitor or ultracapacitor. I saw already people using only a bunch of super capacitors instead of batteries! These capacitors are very expensive and difficult to find (wala dito sa Palawan!)
here is a link to learn about supercacitors:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/whats_the_role_of_the_supercapacitor

About the controller: it has a maximum solar input of 100 watts so your are already at its limits with your 100 watt panel... you should always have an extra amperage for safety and in case you want to add another panel. Plus with this controller, you will have a very hard time to charge your 100 Ah battery. This kind of controller use only a maximum of 60% of the electricity produce by the panel to charge the battery... it's like you have only a 60 watt panel to charge a 100 Ah battery which is not enough to charge properly...especially if you discharge it up to 50% (You must know that a battery cannot be discharge more than 50% of it's capacity otherwise it will be very fast damaged) With this kind of controller you need 200 watt panel to charge 100 Ah bat... and in case you have 200 watt panel, this controller is too small

The size of the wire from the solar panel to the controller depends on how far they are from each other... the farther, the bigger is the wire... but at least you should have a #10 wire

Your inverter is 75 watts... what to you want to run with it?

 

[TristanWS]

Your inverter is 75 watts... what to you want to run with it? - ma'am TS

... eto yan ma'am TS... http://www.cdrking.com/?mod=products&type=view&sid=17854&main=1 ... naka built-in na ang 75W inverter and 5V USB charger... ang issue dyan ay ang built-in controller na masyado maliit (5A MAX)... tapos ang PWM switch ay masyado maingay... actually ang 100W panel ay MAX na, hindi na pwede mag-add.

as per personal experience, jag2002 should NOT use cdr king's CHR-SO27 controller to charge 100AH battery... masisira agad ang nasabing controller... pwede lang ito na pang charge ng maliit na battery up to 50AH.