Chess Thread

[Stormer0628]

Yes, but I seem to remember that Karpov's camp wanted to continue the game nevertheless as initially stipulated in pretournament rules. It was supposed to be a test of mental and physical fortitude but Campomanes, the Filipino head of FIDE then, overruled a continued play. The rest is history, and Karpov couldn't seem to rediscover his mettle vs. Kasparov ever since. But it could also be argued that it was just Kasparov finally showing his true potential.

It could be a case of around peak Korchnoi vs. cantankerous Fischer, but either way the number of games does not justify a conclusive head-to-head pattern. I would be surprised if peak Korchnoi stood a chance against Fischer in a championship match.

 

[anishgiri]

Yes, but I seem to remember that Karpov's camp wanted to continue the game nevertheless as initially stipulated in pretournament rules. It was supposed to be a test of mental and physical fortitude but Campomanes, the Filipino head of FIDE then, overruled a continued play. The rest is history, and Karpov couldn't seem to rediscover his mettle vs. Kasparov ever since. But it could also be argued that it was just Kasparov finally showing his true potential.

It could be a case of around peak Korchnoi vs. cantankerous Fischer, but either way the number of games does not justify a conclusive head-to-head pattern. I would be surprised if peak Korchnoi stood a chance against Fischer in a championship match.

Kasparov and Karpov have valid points sa pagtutol nila sa reset ng match nila.

Korchnoi reached his peak in 1978, so that Korchnoi that Fischer faced is not peak Korchnoi. No doubt Fischer will be the favorite against Korchnoi, but anything can happen. It is not far fetched to think that Korchnoi will beat Fischer in a match. No one expected Alekhine to beat Capablanca. Saka it is well known that Fischer's weakness is a double edge messy positions. Magaling si Korchnoi sa mga double edge messy positions. Pero gaya ng sabi ko, Fischer will be the favorite against Korchnoi.

 

[godspEEd000]

Chess Player Here. One of My Favorite Sports. Sirngayon yung sinasabi nyong 50 Move Rule hindi na applicable ngayon. Wala na ngayong 50 Move Rule sa School kasi hindi na yan ginagamit kahit sa Distict Meet. Chess Coach po kasi ako sa School. By the way I;'m a Teacher.

 

[anishgiri]

Chess Player Here. One of My Favorite Sports. Sirngayon yung sinasabi nyong 50 Move Rule hindi na applicable ngayon. Wala na ngayong 50 Move Rule sa School kasi hindi na yan ginagamit kahit sa Distict Meet. Chess Coach po kasi ako sa School. By the way I;'m a Teacher.

Sa mga school competitions(hindi Philippine or FIDE rated), maaring hindi gamitin ang 50 move rules. Minsan nga sa mga school competitions ay wala pang clock na ginagamit(mas maganda kung may chess clock). Pero sa mga official FIDE rated tournaments sa Philippines, ginagamit ang 50 move rule. Pero bihira lang ang mga games na mapupunta ka sa 50 move rule. Kasi maraming games na may mga kainan or bago pa umabot ng 50 ay tapos na ang game.


Kasi imagine this, kung may increment ang clock, tapos walang 50 move rule, pwedeng hindi matapos ang laban, kasi mag iikutan lang kayo.

For clarity post ko uli kung ano ang 50 move rule

The fifty-move rule in chess states that a player can claim a draw if no capture has been made and no pawn has been moved in the last fifty moves (for this purpose a "move" consists of a player completing their turn followed by the opponent completing their turn). The purpose of this rule is to prevent a player with no chance of winning from obstinately continuing to play indefinitely, (Hooper & Whyld 1992:134), or seeking to win by tiring the opponent.

 

[anishgiri]

Bago iyung tournament comeback sa August ng chess legend na si Kasparov, here are some of his great achivements.

Defended his title many times.
7-1 vs 4 2600 Israeli GMs in a simul.
50-0 vs Shirov, Adams, Gelfand, and Bareev.
Chessmatrics has 17 2820+ tournament performances for Kasparov.
Garry dominated for 20 years
Kasparov won many tournaments with all the best players present.

 

[anishgiri]

Starting a Chess Club at Your School or Place

Kailangan may mga chess clocks,boards and books sa club ninyo. Kailangan may rating system ang mga members ng club ninyo. Ang purpose nito ay ma segregate ninyo ang playing strength ng mga members ng club ninyo. With a rating system ma check din ninyo ang progress ng members ninyo. It will be better if you will follow the official FIDE/Philippine's NCFP.

Eto mga club actvities na pwede ninyo gawin

1. Play against each other(syempre naman)
2. Set up your own tournaments for members
3. Compete at chess tournaments outside your place or club
4. Study chess together by reading books and analyzing games.
5. Sa chess studies kasama na diyan ang pag solve ng tactics problems appropriate sa level ng players.
6. Help each other improve your game.

 

[anishgiri]

Nine-Year-Old Liran Zhou Breaks Record for Youngest Master at the Continental Open

I asked Liran his favorite players, and he named Tal, Fischer, and Kasparov as his favorites. His long-term goal is to join them as a World Champion. Given his astronomical early successes, you have to think he has a chance!

Liran attributes his success to reading many chess books, especially those with chess puzzles. He has a library of books from How to Beat Your Dad at Chess to the Grandmaster Preparation series, but his favorite book is How to Reassess Your Chess by IM Jeremy Silman.

Liran will be competing in the World Cadet Championship in Brazil from August 21 to 31. US Chess will be following the tournament. I’m sure we will all be rooting for Liran to bring home a medal!

https://new.uschess.org/news/nine-y...eaks-record-youngest-master-continental-open/

 

[Allego]

Starting a Chess Club at Your School or Place

Kailangan may mga chess clocks,boards and books sa club ninyo. Kailangan may rating system ang mga members ng club ninyo. Ang purpose nito ay ma segregate ninyo ang playing strength ng mga members ng club ninyo. With a rating system ma check din ninyo ang progress ng members ninyo. It will be better if you will follow the official FIDE/Philippine's NCFP.

Eto mga club actvities na pwede ninyo gawin

1. Play against each other(syempre naman)
2. Set up your own tournaments for members
3. Compete at chess tournaments outside your place or club
4. Study chess together by reading books and analyzing games.
5. Sa chess studies kasama na diyan ang pag solve ng tactics problems appropriate sa level ng players.
6. Help each other improve your game.

When you setup your own tournament, dapat magcontribute kayu at least P50 para sa prizes para ganahan naman maglaro ang mga players. Ganyan ginagawa namin noon sa school haha.

 

[Stormer0628]

When you setup your own tournament, dapat magcontribute kayu at least P50 para sa prizes para ganahan naman maglaro ang mga players. Ganyan ginagawa namin noon sa school haha.

Nung active ako sa chess and organizing tournaments, I always find San Mig, Coca Cola, Milo and others great sponsors. They would even provide us with chessboards and chess clocks. Kailangan maganda ang solicitation approach mo, hehe.

 

[anishgiri]

Nung active ako sa chess and organizing tournaments, I always find San Mig, Coca Cola, Milo and others great sponsors. They would even provide us with chessboards and chess clocks. Kailangan maganda ang solicitation approach mo, hehe.

Alam mo ba iyung Metropolitan Chess Club? Tagal na iyang club na iyan. They have Milo yata as sponsor. Hehe.

Ang dami ng chess tournaments ngaun sa Pilipinas. Hehe.

http://pinoychess.informe.com/forum...sity-team-try-outs-simul-chess-exhibition-f3/

 

[Stormer0628]

Alam mo ba iyung Metropolitan Chess Club? Tagal na iyang club na iyan. They have Milo yata as sponsor. Hehe.

Ang dami ng chess tournaments ngaun sa Pilipinas. Hehe.

http://pinoychess.informe.com/forum...sity-team-try-outs-simul-chess-exhibition-f3/

May mga nakilala ako dati galing sa Metropolitan Chess Club. Kahit sa provinces nakasubok din kami mag-organize ng tournaments. Madalas talaga mag-sponsor ng chess events ang Milo, so organizers should take note of that, hehe.

Sa panahon ngayon maraming way para mahasa ang chess play ng aspiring players, though iba pa rin talaga ang live games. Dami nagkalat online sites, pati analysis engines na bigatin talaga. Yung Stockfish and Houdini minsan hirap hulihin ng analysis nila sa complicated middle games.

 

[vicaccess]

Eto din paborito kong laro dahil makakatulong eto pampatalas nang isipan at decision making.

 

[anishgiri]

May mga nakilala ako dati galing sa Metropolitan Chess Club. Kahit sa provinces nakasubok din kami mag-organize ng tournaments. Madalas talaga mag-sponsor ng chess events ang Milo, so organizers should take note of that, hehe.

Sa panahon ngayon maraming way para mahasa ang chess play ng aspiring players, though iba pa rin talaga ang live games. Dami nagkalat online sites, pati analysis engines na bigatin talaga. Yung Stockfish and Houdini minsan hirap hulihin ng analysis nila sa complicated middle games.

kudos to you for organizing chess tournaments before. hindi madali mag organize. sa nakikita ko ang daming bata na sumasali sa mga chess tournaments. karamihan din ng mga sumasali ay buwan buwan sumasali sa loob ng maraming taon at ngaun ay sumasali pa din.hehe.

kailangan din familiarity chess official fide/philippine federation chess rules.ngaun sa mga rated tournaments ay bawal na gamitin ang dalawang kamay sa pagkain ng piyesa.hehe.


yup maraming paraan para mahasa ang mga players. pero i still prefer the old way of active learning from books by setting up the book positions on your chess board.hehe

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Eto din paborito kong laro dahil makakatulong eto pampatalas nang isipan at decision making.

while high iq does not really correlate on being a good player, nakakahasa talaga ng isip ang chess. hehe.

 

[Stormer0628]

kudos to you for organizing chess tournaments before. hindi madali mag organize. sa nakikita ko ang daming bata na sumasali sa mga chess tournaments. karamihan din ng mga sumasali ay buwan buwan sumasali sa loob ng maraming taon at ngaun ay sumasali pa din.hehe.

kailangan din familiarity chess official fide/philippine federation chess rules.ngaun sa mga rated tournaments ay bawal na gamitin ang dalawang kamay sa pagkain ng piyesa.hehe.


yup maraming paraan para mahasa ang mga players. pero i still prefer the old way of active learning from books by setting up the book positions on your chess board.hehe


while high iq does not really correlate on being a good player, nakakahasa talaga ng isip ang chess. hehe.

Matagal na rin ako active sa tournament organizing. Work and family life made sure of that, haha. Medyo disappointed pa ako wala sa mga kids ko ang nagkainteres sa chess. Pati sa guitar, hehe, another of my pastime. All they seem to do is cellphone, cellphone, cellphone, haha. They are missing so much I would think, but I'm all out supporting them whatever they choose to do with their lives.

Sayo ko lang din nalaman yung bagong rule na di na pwede dalawang kamay sa pagkain ng pyesa, hehe. Sabagay pasanayan lang naman yan. Favored ko yung one hand hawak sa pyesa, the other hand palipad sa chess clock, haha.

Yung mga books ko sa chess gathering dust and all sa bahay, hehe. Dati libangan ko set up two chess engines and watch them take on each other. Minsan sasalang ako against any one, and that is when I discovered that chess engines are way over humans in game play talaga. Let's say losing ako sa position, activate ko yung option na switch sides, eh kamukat-mukat mo winning na naman yung chess engine in a few moves. No wonder AI has taken over chess, Go, and now Dota daw, sabi sa news. What else kaya sa sunod...? Hehe.

 

[anishgiri]

Matagal na rin ako active sa tournament organizing. Work and family life made sure of that, haha. Medyo disappointed pa ako wala sa mga kids ko ang nagkainteres sa chess. Pati sa guitar, hehe, another of my pastime. All they seem to do is cellphone, cellphone, cellphone, haha. They are missing so much I would think, but I'm all out supporting them whatever they choose to do with their lives.

Sayo ko lang din nalaman yung bagong rule na di na pwede dalawang kamay sa pagkain ng pyesa, hehe. Sabagay pasanayan lang naman yan. Favored ko yung one hand hawak sa pyesa, the other hand palipad sa chess clock, haha.

Yung mga books ko sa chess gathering dust and all sa bahay, hehe. Dati libangan ko set up two chess engines and watch them take on each other. Minsan sasalang ako against any one, and that is when I discovered that chess engines are way over humans in game play talaga. Let's say losing ako sa position, activate ko yung option na switch sides, eh kamukat-mukat mo winning na naman yung chess engine in a few moves. No wonder AI has taken over chess, Go, and now Dota daw, sabi sa news. What else kaya sa sunod...? Hehe.

Tinuruan mo ba ng chess ang kids mo?

Engines today are stronger than human. Pero iyung mga winning positions that are not messy, if you set up it with an engine ,ay kaya ng ipanalo ng strong human player. Hehe. Actually magandang gamitin ang engine at practicing winning a positions that is winning(lalo na sa endgame positions). May mga endgame positions na weakness pa din ng engine.


Pero if the player is beginner, in my opinion, wala masyado matutulong ang engine sa kanya for improvement. Kasi if the engine tells a certain position has the advantage, hindi naman maiintindihan ng beginner kung bakit may advantage. Tapos mga variations din ito, a beginner is also weak at tactics at calculation.


Iyung GMs din sa kanilang preparations, hindi nila lahat sinusunod ang suggestion ng engine. Halimbawa si GM Giri, may game siya na hindi niya sinunod ang engine suggestion during the game. Sabi niya he thinks daw mas tama iyung naisip niyang idea. Giri won that game. Malakas pa din talaga sa positional understanding ang human on certain situations, iyun nga lang may stress factor, at accurate talaga sa tactics ang engine. Engine can spot all the tactical mistakes even if the position is complex in a short period of time.

 

[Stormer0628]

Tinuruan mo ba ng chess ang kids mo?

Engines today are stronger than human. Pero iyung mga winning positions that are not messy, if you set up it with an engine ,ay kaya ng ipanalo ng strong human player. Hehe. Actually magandang gamitin ang engine at practicing winning a positions that is winning(lalo na sa endgame positions). May mga endgame positions na weakness pa din ng engine.


Pero if the player is beginner, in my opinion, wala masyado matutulong ang engine sa kanya for improvement. Kasi if the engine tells a certain position has the advantage, hindi naman maiintindihan ng beginner kung bakit may advantage. Tapos mga variations din ito, a beginner is also weak at tactics at calculation.


Iyung GMs din sa kanilang preparations, hindi nila lahat sinusunod ang suggestion ng engine. Halimbawa si GM Giri, may game siya na hindi niya sinunod ang engine suggestion during the game. Sabi niya he thinks daw mas tama iyung naisip niyang idea. Giri won that game. Malakas pa din talaga sa positional understanding ang human on certain situations, iyun nga lang may stress factor, at accurate talaga sa tactics ang engine. Engine can spot all the tactical mistakes even if the position is complex in a short period of time.

I tried teaching the kids chess, but to no avail. They didn't show the slightest interest in how the pieces are supposed to move, the objective, anything. So that was that for chess. Mahirap pilitin pa, hehe.

So true about chess engines and GMs not following their play to the letter. Much of it dahil di rin naman ganun kapredictable ang play against human opponents. Kahit yung high-level GMs are afraid to venture into chess engine thinking, di naman kase apektado ng psychological factors sila gaya ng tao. Usually pag intimidating ang tira ng kalaban, may nerve na sumasali in play, something that chess engines do not share. Kahit si Kaspa yan din ang napansin nya during his battles with Deep Thought/Deep Blue hehe.

Pang advanced level lang din talaga dapat ang chess engines, not for beginners. Chess engines do not explain positions and tactical play well, something that beginner chess books are good at.

 

[anishgiri]

I tried teaching the kids chess, but to no avail. They didn't show the slightest interest in how the pieces are supposed to move, the objective, anything. So that was that for chess. Mahirap pilitin pa, hehe.

So true about chess engines and GMs not following their play to the letter. Much of it dahil di rin naman ganun kapredictable ang play against human opponents. Kahit yung high-level GMs are afraid to venture into chess engine thinking, di naman kase apektado ng psychological factors sila gaya ng tao. Usually pag intimidating ang tira ng kalaban, may nerve na sumasali in play, something that chess engines do not share. Kahit si Kaspa yan din ang napansin nya during his battles with Deep Thought/Deep Blue hehe.

Pang advanced level lang din talaga dapat ang chess engines, not for beginners. Chess engines do not explain positions and tactical play well, something that beginner chess books are good at.

At what age mo sila tinuruan? Usually mas madali and malaki ang chance na magustuhan nila ang chess pagtinuro ito ng maayos sa mga kids na ang edad ay between 3-8 years old. Ginagawa ko tinututuro ko lang ang basic opening principles, mga endgames, tapos sa loob ng ilang taon solve lang sila ng mga tactics problems na para sa level nila. Tapos sinasali ko sila sa mga tournaments(para mas ma appreciate nila). Enjoy sila sa mga tournaments. Tapos minsan sisingitan ko ng strategic concepts sa pagtuturo. Papakitaan ko ng mga instructive games ng great players.

If you set up equally strong engines, kaya nila talunin ang isat isa. Mamangha ka talaga sa depth ng chess. Ang mga engine na ito ay accurate sa tactics. And yet nanalo sila sa kapwa engine nila. This just shows the strategic depth of chess.

 

[Stormer0628]

At what age mo sila tinuruan? Usually mas madali and malaki ang chance na magustuhan nila ang chess pagtinuro ito ng maayos sa mga kids na ang edad ay between 3-8 years old. Ginagawa ko tinututuro ko lang ang basic opening principles, mga endgames, tapos sa loob ng ilang taon solve lang sila ng mga tactics problems na para sa level nila. Tapos sinasali ko sila sa mga tournaments(para mas ma appreciate nila). Enjoy sila sa mga tournaments. Tapos minsan sisingitan ko ng strategic concepts sa pagtuturo. Papakitaan ko ng mga instructive games ng great players.

If you set up equally strong engines, kaya nila talunin ang isat isa. Mamangha ka talaga sa depth ng chess. Ang mga engine na ito ay accurate sa tactics. And yet nanalo sila sa kapwa engine nila. This just shows the strategic depth of chess.

3–6 age range nila ng tinry ko tingnan interest nila sa chess. They were more interested playing with the pieces off the board, haha.

Naku, kung sinusubaybayan mo TCEC makikita mo gaano kadugo labanan ng mga chess engines. Nowadays medyo boring na, 3 chess engines na lang ang usually makikita mo nangingibabaw: Komodo, Houdini, and Stockfish, the latter especially because of the hyperactive involvement of its developers. Di na kaya ng human GMs anyone of these three.

 

[anishgiri]

3–6 age range nila ng tinry ko tingnan interest nila sa chess. They were more interested playing with the pieces off the board, haha.

Naku, kung sinusubaybayan mo TCEC makikita mo gaano kadugo labanan ng mga chess engines. Nowadays medyo boring na, 3 chess engines na lang ang usually makikita mo nangingibabaw: Komodo, Houdini, and Stockfish, the latter especially because of the hyperactive involvement of its developers. Di na kaya ng human GMs anyone of these three.

Yeah, human can't beat these engine in a full game. But these engines still make mistakes at endgames and there are situations in which human can still find better positional ideas.

 

[Naeioumy]

uy, share ko to sa kuya ko, salamat TS