Do you believe that judeo-christian organized religion is male dominated?

[Chichun]

Do you believe that judeo-christian organized religion is male dominated?

I just want to ask a simple question. Iniisip ko ay baka mali ako. If mali ako ay maaaring magbago ang isip ko.

Ito ang karanasan ko kase noon. Mahilig ako magtanong-tanong. Noon sa kabilang forum which is international forum siya ay itinatanong-tanong ko about women's role in judeo-christian organized religion.

Maraming sumagot. Nakukulangan po kase ako. There is something missing lang naman. Then, one woman told me that she's happy to be a celtic pagan daw rather than to be in judeo-christian organized religion.

Then, dumaan ng maraming days. Ito naman isang high priestess ay ipinagtawanan niya ang two christian guys dahil they want her to convert in christian. Sabi ng high priestess ay ito.

It is a male organized religion so bakit magpapaconvert siya sa christian.

Then, this time ay meron na naman. She wrote a famous book. Sabi niya ay ito. If judeo-christian organized religion is abusive to women daw ay meron alternative pa naman para sa mga tao. Neo pagan religion ang alternative sa mga tao lalo na raw for women. Ulit. Ang sabi ay lalo na raw for women if women's role ay repressed in judeo-christian organized religion.

judeo-christian organized religion is lahat ng denomination. Kasama diyan ang Catholic, Protestant, Adventist, Ang Dating Daan, Iglesia ni Cristo, Islam at maraming-maraming iba pa.

The reason why I am asking this simple question ay dahil hindi pala ako mag-isa na nag-iisip ng ganito. I am not abnormal pala katulad ng ibinibintang sa akin ng ibang tao or dahil nasa judeo-christian society tayo kaya ang saklap ng treatment sa akin ng ibang tao?

So I just want to know the truth and nothing but the whole truth.

Is it true that judeo-christian organized religion ay male dominated? Yes or no?

Yes or no lang. Okay lang if gawin siyang poll without comment. If gusto niyo magcomment ay mas okay siya dahil kahit kagaano kahaba iyan, babasahin ko pa rin siya to the max.

Yes or no lang.

 

[Rejz45]

no

hindi kawawa ang mga babae sa Christian religion

ang katotohanan ay nakasulat sa Biblia-- 2 timothy 3:16,17, john 5:39

sana po maging open minded ka pa sa Christian,

naway tulungan ka ng Panginoong Diyos na sagutin ang mga katanungan mo..upang malaman mo ang katotohanan...kung may mga tanong ka pa handa akong sumagot upang tulungan ka ayon sa akin nalalaman sa kasulatan..

 

[Chichun]

Ganun ba? Totoo ba iyan or sadyang ikaw lang ang nagsabi nun?

Noon under ako ng *religious family* ng Christian ay *recorded* sa *mind* ko ang itinuro sa akin. Ang sabi ay *kawawa at lugi* daw ang babae. Bata pa ako noon. I really do not know why they taught me na *kawawa at lugi* kamo ang babae. Inosente ako noon at *agree* lang ako ng *agree* without questions.

Siyempre, nang naging *adult* na ako ay *nagbago ang perception* ko simulang meron ako *natuklasan*.

Anyway, kahit noon sa *mass media* ay pinoportray ng tao na *less than ang women sa men*. Ngayon lang ata medio ibinago-bago ang ganoon *theme* but still, hindi pa rin *nawawaglit* kung ano meron sa *culture* natin.

It is a reason why I am so curious if bakit nasabi mo na *hindi nga kawawa* ang women sa judeo-christian organized religion---interesting talaga---why nasabi mo na *hindi kawawa* ang women sa christian?

Curiousity arouse lang naman ako. Ano---ano---ano nga ba talaga meron?

" Ang katotohanan ay nakasulat sa Biblia--2 timothy 3:16,17, john 5:39 "

Ito ba iyon?

2 Timothy 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Anong *kilalaman* ng women diyan sa bible verse? Ang mga *lalake* ba ang *gumawa* ng *bible verse*, kaya naging *one and true God* siya? Ang sabi ay e-teach, e-rebuke, e-correct at e-train ang women? Iyon ba iyon? Men must teach women or ano? Anong---anong connection about sa sinasabi mo na *hindi kawawa* ang babae sa *bible verse* na ibinigay mo sa akin?

---at saka, ito.

John 5:39 New International Version (NIV)

39 You study[a] the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me......

Anong *connection* sa sinasabi mo na *hindi kawawa* ang babae sa Christian?

Anyway, kasulatan...... kasulatan...... e...... papaano iyan? Based on bible ka lang pala? Hindi ka ba pwede mag-outside the bible para... para... para you know hindi siya maging *unfair*. Medio meron---alam mo na? Medio meron pagkasubjective kase if lahat nakasalalay on bible. E alam mo naman na medio *napapaloob* siya sa *politic issue* ang womens in judeo-christian organized religion, kaya napa-isip ako if magtatanong pa ba ako?

O sige. Magtatanong ako.

Sa pananamit ng babae ay *kasalanan* ba na mag-suot ng *sexy damit*, na tipong pang *seductive* ang kanyang klaseng pananamit, na tipong *nakaka-akit* tingnan, na tipong *kita ang cleavage*, na tipong *mga mini skirt* type na klaseng palda---basta---alam mo na iyon. So it is a *sin* ba siya?

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[Unknown Post]

Malaking No! po, Boss TS.

dahil nasasaad sa banal na kasulatan ay:

1Timothy 2:11-14

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;b she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner

at sa

1 Corinthians 14:34-35

34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.g

 

[Chichun]

" Malaking No! po, Boss TS dahil nasasaad sa banal na kasulatan ay:

1Timothy 2:11-14

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. "

A... e... *no* sa inyo iyan? I mean...... *no* talaga sa inyo iyan? I mean learn in *quietness and full submission* ang women to men? Then, *I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man*? Then, *she must be quiet*? Then, *Adam was formed first, then Eve*? Then, *Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was DECEIVED and became a SINNER*?

*No* talaga ang *answer* na *hindi mababa* ang piniperceive ng lagay ng babae diyan?

*No* it is not *male dominated* ang ganyan *bible verse*? Talaga?

Napa-isip ako. A little bit *weird* because *baligtad* ata but... but... but *napakamot* ako ng *ulo* dahil *no* ang *answer* mismo pero sa *bible verse* ay parang *male dominated* ang *result* pero... pero *no* ang *answer*.

Babae ang *una na-deceived* so kasalan ng babae at hindi lalake pero *hindi daw male dominated*.

Women is *kailangan submissive* to men pero *ang men ay walang nakalagay ng submissiveness* to women but hindi daw *male dominated*.

Wala lang.

It does not matter at all.

Okay.

Ang sagot ay *big no* although a *little bit weird* lang naman siya.

Accepted ko siya na ang answer is *no* even though deep inside my heart ay sinasabi niya na *disagree* ako but I accept na *no* ang answer kung sino man naniniwala na *hindi siya male dominated ang judeo-chrisitian organized religion*.

Whew.

Okay. Okay. Okay.

"......at sa

1 Corinthians 14:34-35

34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. "

Ouch! Kakaiba ang *bible verse* to women. Hindi siya *acceptable* sa *taste* ko.

Okay. Okay. Okay---fine. Okay na po siya. Don't tell me another *women's bible verse* na for *judeo-christian* is *no* for the answer na keyso it is not *male dominated* daw---I accept na you answer *no* sa lahat ng *napapaloob* ng *judeo-christian organized religion* because I realized that *it is total reversed* lahat for me na for *some people* who are in *judeo-christian* is total *okay* and it is not *male dominated* daw.

Okay.

All answer is appreciated ko na po siya.

Okay na po.

Tama na.

Tama na.

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Okay.

Alam ko na ang sagot.

It does not matter at all na.

Okay na po siya.