iSHARE: NINOY + PEOPLE POWER: HIDDEN TRUTHS THE MEDIA IS NOT TELLING US!

[geezushaberdash]

All the points you have raised lack merit and are provably false. The major flaw in your argument is that you keep on projecting the problems of the countries you mentioned to the Philippines and assuming that just because those countries turned communist the Philippines would inevitably have fallen also into communism, and installing a pro-American dictator was the only way to prevent such a thing from happening, while ignoring the fact that the Philippines never had the same severity of threat of communist takeover as those countries faced nor was it anywhere close to the same political situation those countries were into.

To begin with, it was the local rebels through the support of the Chinese and Soviets that liberated Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos from French imperialism. The U.S. failed to help drive the Colonial French out of those countries so they turned to the Chinese and Soviets for help, and since China and the Soviet Union were communist, those three countries followed suit. Was the Philippines in a similar situation as those countries? Far from it. And ever wondered why Thailand didn't become communist unlike its neighbouring countries in Indochina? Because it was never colonized by France thus never had the same circumstances that would have led it to communism. On the other hand, the Soviet Union was in close proximity to Korea and Japan, and it actually occupied the two countries. The Philippines is an island nation that was 3,400 miles away from Soviet invasion so the same scenario wasn't at all realistic.

Ninoy Aquino was never established to have been a communist (that was a made up accusation by Marcos regime in order to persecute and arrest his political opponents) and the likelihood of him being the next president would not have resulted to a communist takeover, a coup or anything you imagine. He did help the communist but that was only because he had a common cause with them in fighting Marcos' dictatorship and that doesn't mean he was a communist for which he confessed that he was not. An excerpt of Ninoy's undelivered speech before he was assassinated:

"I was sentenced to die for allegedly being the leading communist leader. I am not a communist, never was and never will be."

All incidents Marcos used to justify the declaration of martial law were fabricated by him. The communist 'threat' was highly exaggerated. Communism was NEVER a serious threat in the Philippines during his time, unlike it was in other countries. A lot of the bombings in the run up to martial law were traced to the members of the armed forces, not to the rebels (except for only one incident). There was no civil unrest in many other parts of the country except Metro Manila. Even the ambush of Juan Ponce Enrile was staged (Enrile even admitted to it) and used as one of the grounds to declare martial law. There was ABSOLUTELY no need to declare martial law. The whole thing was planned by Marcos even before he became president and could have been avoided if he never came into power.

 

[Stormer0628]

All the points you have raised lack merit and are provably false. The major flaw in your argument is that you keep on projecting the problems of the countries you mentioned to the Philippines and assuming that just because those countries turned communist the Philippines would inevitably have fallen also into communism, and installing a pro-American dictator was the only way to prevent such a thing from happening, while ignoring the fact that the Philippines never had the same severity of threat of communist takeover as those countries faced nor was it anywhere close to the same political situation those countries were into.

To begin with, it was the local rebels through the support of the Chinese and Soviets that liberated Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos from French imperialism. The U.S. failed to help drive the Colonial French out of those countries so they turned to the Chinese and Soviets for help, and since China and the Soviet Union were communist, those three countries followed suit. Was the Philippines in a similar situation as those countries? Far from it. And ever wondered why Thailand didn't become communist unlike its neighbouring countries in Indochina? Because it was never colonized by France thus never had the same circumstances that would have led it to communism. On the other hand, the Soviet Union was in close proximity to Korea and Japan, and it actually occupied the two countries. The Philippines is an island nation that was 3,400 miles away from Soviet invasion so the same scenario wasn't at all realistic.

Ninoy Aquino was never established to have been a communist (that was a made up accusation by Marcos regime in order to persecute and arrest his political opponents) and the likelihood of him being the next president would not have resulted to a communist takeover, a coup or anything you imagine. He did help the communist but that was only because he had a common cause with them in fighting Marcos' dictatorship and that doesn't mean he was a communist for which he confessed that he was not. An excerpt of Ninoy's undelivered speech before he was assassinated:

"I was sentenced to die for allegedly being the leading communist leader. I am not a communist, never was and never will be."

All incidents Marcos used to justify the declaration of martial law were fabricated by him. The communist 'threat' was highly exaggerated. Communism was NEVER a serious threat in the Philippines during his time, unlike it was in other countries. A lot of the bombings in the run up to martial law were traced to the members of the armed forces, not to the rebels (except for only one incident). There was no civil unrest in many other parts of the country except Metro Manila. Even the ambush of Juan Ponce Enrile was staged (Enrile even admitted to it) and used as one of the grounds to declare martial law. There was ABSOLUTELY no need to declare martial law. The whole thing was planned by Marcos even before he became president and could have been avoided if he never came into power.

You only have to check official foreign policy papers to verify my claims. I have access to most of them, but the thing is that these are not hidden in the public domains if you really want them. The main difference between us is that I am able to overcome party dogmatism and deeply-rooted propaganda materials written by local historians all tainted by their local experiences and thus unable to make the jump in their claustrophobic viewpoints. The thing about the Marcoses, Suhartos, Sekos, is that sometimes you have to consider the context of the times they came into power. Remember this is the time the extreme paranoidal position of the US was at its height, exemplified by the McCarthyism and the witch-huntings that went with it.

You can posit any weight of veracity in the local situations as much as you want, but you only have to remember one thing: to the eyes of the US, all these aforementioned capture by communism of these countries only mean one stark thing: they are losing global influence to the whole communist hammerhead, and it does not matter whether it is of the Lenin-Stalin or Maoist flavor. To the paranoid US, they appear surrounded, and this was brought to its head in the full-blown Kennedy-Castro confrontation in the Cuban Crisis.

You can also posit as many big or small details, true or not, in how Marcos secured the extension of his regime after his second term. These are meaningless details, really, especially to Marcos who had already seen the actions necessary to secure his regime. The thing is he had already steeled himself in for any consequences to his choices and actions. They were dark days in our history for sure, but there is this overarching idea playing in his head: it could be worse. And I mean to collect.

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And again, it is not important whether Ninoy was really a communist. What is important is that the US has already judged him in that light. To them, the global situation meant they could never afford to make even the thinnest margin of mistake in allowing another Communist to take over any of their allies, and a very staunch one at that.

 

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Na ikwento nang nanay ko noon na sinabi sa kanya nang uncle ko na isang Philippine Constabulary intelligence officer, parang wild fire daw yung widespread communist propaganda noon at karamihan sa kanila ay mga students.

 

[dodge2012]

Hindi masama si Marcos, kung wala pang konsensya si Marcos, nung time ng EDSA Rev. naghihintay nalang si Gen. Ber ng order ni Marcos kong shoot ba ang mga raleyista! Pero di nya ginawa yun! "yung Martial Law hindi si Marcos ang umaabuso , kundi ang mga Militar.

 

[creyzi4j]

Hindi masama si Marcos, kung wala pang konsensya si Marcos, nung time ng EDSA Rev. naghihintay nalang si Gen. Ber ng order ni Marcos kong shoot ba ang mga raleyista! Pero di nya ginawa yun! "yung Martial Law hindi si Marcos ang umaabuso , kundi ang mga Militar.

What do you expect?
Kontrolado nila ang media
TAHIMIK ang media noon about their sweet evil actions.

Rape, torture, massacre, theft, world-record-breaking extravagance. You name it, GINAWA YUN sa administrasyon ni Marcos. Hindi lang naikalat sa mga matatalino-daw na mga kabataan ngayon. Dahil masyado mahirap i-research ang mga kabalbalan na ginawa ni Marcos.

 

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What do you expect?
Kontrolado nila ang media
TAHIMIK ang media noon about their sweet evil actions.

Rape, torture, massacre, theft, world-record-breaking extravagance. You name it, GINAWA YUN sa administrasyon ni Marcos. Hindi lang naikalat sa mga matatalino-daw na mga kabataan ngayon. Dahil masyado mahirap i-research ang mga kabalbalan na ginawa ni Marcos.

Dahil wala pang PNP/civilian police noon at yung Philippine Constabulary ay para-military.

The policy of martial law was initially well-received, but it eventually proved unpopular as the military's human rights abuses (use of torture in intelligence gathering, forced disappearances), along with the decadence and excess of Marcos allies, had emerged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law

 

[okamoto01]

magkocomment lang ako based sa mga nabasa kong comments, "Marcos is the best ever President in Philippine history". WTF! Kelan naging best president ang magpahuli,magpahirap at worst magpapatay sa mga kalahi nya na di sang-ayon sa mga pinaggagagawa nya? Simple as that.Sya po ang ninuno ng mga kurap na pulitiko dito sa atin. Tandaan nyo po yan.

To be fair.. i'll watch the video and i'll give my reactions then.

hahahaha... kulang ka tlga sa kasaysayan TS. may tanong ako, bakit ba nagdeclare ng MARTIAL LAW? d naman siguro gagawin ng isang napakatalinong presidente ang isang bagay na alam nya ikapapahamak ng knyang bansa! gnawa nya un kasi nalaman nya na tumutulong ang china na magsupply ng mga armas sa mga rebeldeng kumakalaban sa Gobyerno ang mga Komunista na nilason ng mga inggit sa marcoses ito ang limang senador sa time ni Marcos. KUMANDER "DANTE" ay pinamumunuan ni "D" Dyukno, "A" Aquino 'yan si Ninoy Aquino, "N" Natividad, "T" Tolentino at "E" Espinoza. Ito sila ang founder ng "CPP" Communist Party of the Philippines. Sino ang dapat mong sisihin ngaun ang MARCOS or ang mga NAGTAGUMPAY NA pABAGSAKIN ANG MARCOS na hanggng ngaun ay mas masahol pa tayo sa Diktador dahil 30years ng namamayagpag ang DILAWAN sa bansa pero may nngyari ba sa PILIPINAS AFTER NI MARCOS? umunlad ba tayo lalo? yan ang itanong mo sa sarili mo ngaun TS

 

[missingleak]

hahahaha... kulang ka tlga sa kasaysayan TS. may tanong ako, bakit ba nagdeclare ng MARTIAL LAW? d naman siguro gagawin ng isang napakatalinong presidente ang isang bagay na alam nya ikapapahamak ng knyang bansa! gnawa nya un kasi nalaman nya na tumutulong ang china na magsupply ng mga armas sa mga rebeldeng kumakalaban sa Gobyerno ang mga Komunista na nilason ng mga inggit sa marcoses ito ang limang senador sa time ni Marcos. KUMANDER "DANTE" ay pinamumunuan ni "D" Dyukno, "A" Aquino 'yan si Ninoy Aquino, "N" Natividad, "T" Tolentino at "E" Espinoza. Ito sila ang founder ng "CPP" Communist Party of the Philippines. Sino ang dapat mong sisihin ngaun ang MARCOS or ang mga NAGTAGUMPAY NA pABAGSAKIN ANG MARCOS na hanggng ngaun ay mas masahol pa tayo sa Diktador dahil 30years ng namamayagpag ang DILAWAN sa bansa pero may nngyari ba sa PILIPINAS AFTER NI MARCOS? umunlad ba tayo lalo? yan ang itanong mo sa sarili mo ngaun TS

im not about yellow or red, yang karapatang mabpost or magpahayag ng na saloobin mo ay utang mo sa peoples power nung 1986. Malamang kunin lang sayo cellphone mo ng nanay mo iyak ka na. OR ipambili ng nanay mo allowance mo ng mamahalin sapatos, anu kaya mararamdaman mo?

Alam mo ba estado ng Pilipinas around 1983? 40%++ unemployment, Marcos made investors go away. Isisisi mo na naman sa makakaliwa? Di ba say presidente kung time na yun? ibig sabihin inutil sya?

 

[geezushaberdash]

Ang hilig niyong maniwala sa mga conspiracy. Isang tao lang si Kumander Dante. Hindi un acronym ng pangalan ng limang tao. Hindi komunista si Ninoy Aquino at walang alam ang Amerika kung sino sino ang mga komunista sa Pilipinas. Walang pakialam ang Amerika sa pulitika sa Pilipinas. Hindi kapareho ang sitwasyon sa Pilipinas ng sa Indochina o sa South America kaya hindi nagkaroon ng kapareho rin na "Operation Condor" dito sa Pilipinas na katulad ng sa South America kung saan Amerika mismo ang nagpatalsik ng democratically-elected presidents at nag-install ng pro-American dictators sa mga bansang un. Inexaggerate lang ni Marcos ang communist threat sa Pilipinas para makapagdeklara ng martial law. Sinamantala niya ang sitwasyon para maging diktador. Matagal nang planado ang martial law at ang fake events na isasagawa para gawing grounds sa declaration ng martial law.

 

[rapidox]

Ang hilig niyong maniwala sa mga conspiracy. Isang tao lang si Kumander Dante. Hindi un acronym ng pangalan ng limang tao. Hindi komunista si Ninoy Aquino at walang alam ang Amerika kung sino sino ang mga komunista sa Pilipinas. Walang pakialam ang Amerika sa pulitika sa Pilipinas. Hindi kapareho ang sitwasyon sa Pilipinas ng sa Indochina o sa South America kaya hindi nagkaroon ng kapareho rin na "Operation Condor" dito sa Pilipinas na katulad ng sa South America kung saan Amerika mismo ang nagpatalsik ng democratically-elected presidents at nag-install ng pro-American dictators sa mga bansang un. Inexaggerate lang ni Marcos ang communist threat sa Pilipinas para makapagdeklara ng martial law. Sinamantala niya ang sitwasyon para maging diktador. Matagal nang planado ang martial law at ang fake events na isasagawa para gawing grounds sa declaration ng martial law.

Walang nag sabi dito nyan, pero totoo yung communist threat di kalang tlga nag rere-search o nag tatanung sa itay at inay mo.

"How NPA guerrillas lost China's support"

THREE years after the New People's Army founding on March 29, 1969, Communist Party of the Philippines chair Jose Ma. “Joma” Sison decided to send a delegation to China on an arms procurement mission for the NPA. He needed no persuading that the Chinese military aid would fast-track the Maoist revolution that he was credited with single-handedly bringing into existence.

The deployment of our mission was to reveal fault lines rippling beneath the façade of China's leadership.

Under the helm of Mao Zedong, China in the 1970s had pledged to support wars of national liberation then raging in Third World countries. Shortly after his second term began, President Ferdinand Marcos, who had campaigned with the battle cry, "This Nation Shall Be Great Again," began
adopting repressive measures against the mounting opposition in a bid to entrench himself in power. When the NPA fired the first shot of the revolution to challenge the growing dictatorship, China lost no time in throwing its support behind the Maoist rebels.

As a further sign of his sympathy for the insurgency, Mao approved the coming of the CPP mission in a letter to Sison relayed through Kang Sheng, the most powerful member of the Chinese Communist Party's politburo. "People of the World Unite and Defeat US Imperialism and Its Running Dogs!" was the ideological mantra being beamed from China at the time.

Days after our three-man delegation arrived in Beijing, we were officially welcomed by the CPP politburo that hailed our mission as one of the Filipino people's "first steps in their Long March to national freedom and democracy." The official who represented Mao was Geng Biao, the minister for the agency in charge of China's relations with global revolutionary movements. Geng was congenial, but after the customary exchange of pleasantries, he quickly turned solemn.

http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=2710.0

"Ex-communist leader gets sentimental as divers find sunken ship"

Corpuz referred to a stockpile of thousands of M14 rifles, rocket-propelled grenades, high-powered war-materiel, ammunition, and communication equipment that China shipped to the Philippines for the first time on board a Japanese vessel that was renamed “Karagatan,” a Filipino word for the sea.

In July 1972, Corpuz recalled that he and nine other comrades trekked for 71 days at the highest point of the Sierra Madre, not on the road but deep in the forest, to reach Digoyo Point, an isolated portion in Isabela to implement the grand arms landing.

http://gulfnews.com/news/asia/philippines/ex-communist-leader-gets-sentimental-as-divers-find-sunken-ship-1.1060318

keep on trolling

 

[geezushaberdash]

Ang sabi ko "inexaggerate lang ni Marcos ang communist threat," hindi walang communist threat sa Pilipinas. 350 lang ang mga miembro ng NPA nung 1972, hindi sapat na bilang para magdeklara ng martial law sa buong bansa. Sa katunayan, lalong dumami ang mga miembro ng NPA nang ideklara niya ang martial law mula sa 350 nung 1972 naging 22,000+ nung 1980s. At kung kelan pa dumami ang mga miembro ng NPA saka ni-lift ni Marcos ang martial law.

 

[kaito89]

350 yung malakas ang loob na nagsabing NPA sila pero maraming miyembro ang nagtatago bilang sibilyan kasama na ang ilan sa mga estudyante dyan at lumobo yan dahil nagsilabasan lang sila sa lungga nila dahil sa pagkakahuli ng mga commanders nila at patuloy na pagsugpo sa kanila ng gobyerno kaya lumantad at lumaban sila. Dun lang dineclare ang martial law dahil talagang lumantad na ang karamihan sa kanila para makapanggulo at marami rin paniguradong umanib na tao na galit sa administrasyon kaya mas dumami sila. Kung ikaw ba ang presidente na malaman mo na ganun pala sila karami at puro panggugulo pa ang ginagawa at mga armado pa e di ka mababahala. Mababahala ka dahil di mo alam kung sino pa ang kakampi o kalaban mo at nasa panig ng gobyerno. Ang NPA nga pala ay nabuo at nag base sa Capas Tarlac kung saan halos lahat ng lupain dyan e pagmamayari ng Cojuano at Aquino. Dyan nila pinatuloy ang mga rebelde. Pakibasa na lang din yung interview kay JMS.

ON NINOY AQUINO’S RELATIONS WITH CPP & NPA
01/10/2010 adminto interviews 0
Full Text of Interview of Prof. Jose Maria Sison

By Lisandro Claudio
For GMA News TV
24 July 2010

Note: This interview is the basis of Claudio’s direct and indirect quotations from Prof. Sison in the former’s article, “Ninoy networked with everyone, Reds included” in GMA News TV on August 18, 2010

1. Was there ever an alliance between the CPP-NPA and Ninoy Aquino? If so, could you comment on the extent of this alliance?

JMS Answer: There was no formal alliance between the CPP-NPA and Ninoy Aquino. By absence of formal alliance, I mean that there was no written instrument of alliance (document) and there was no organizational form to embody the alliance. But there was an informal and objective alliance. The CPP and NPA and Ninoy were informal and practical cooperators against the Marcos regime from late 1968 onwards up to his assassination by the military minions of Marcos and further on with his wife as ally after his assassination.

Even before the CPP was reestablished in 1968, Ninoy had maintained a certain amount of good relations with the old people’s army units headed by Bernabe Buscayno in Tarlac. Independently, I became friends with Ninoy in late 1967 through his young Senate aide Raul Roco who was then my neighbor in Sta, Mesa Heights. Ninoy had come to my house but I was not at home. Raul eventually brought me to Ninoy’s house in Times St. Ninoy and I exchanged ideas about the political situation. Cory served coffee.

I was then publicly known as chairman of Kabataang Makabayan, editor of Progressive Review and friend of most of the congressmen known as the Magnificent Seven opposed to the US war of aggression in Vietnam and the Philcag. Ninoy had no idea then that I and others were preparing for the reestablishmwent of the CPP and the founding of the NPA.

2. Would you recall why Ninoy sought you out for the first meeting? What did you talk about?

JMS Answer: Ninoy proposed that the two of us would make a hunger strike against the Marcos regime and make demands for reforms. I thanked Ninoy for the proposal but I declined because at that time I was extremely busy with labor, peasant and youth mass organizing. I did not tell him that I was kept most busy by the rectification movement within the old CPP against the Lava dynasty and the Taruc-Sumulong gangster clique and with the rebuilding of the CPP.

3. Below is an excerpt from a telegram sent by the US Embassy in the Philippines to the State Department. It is dated September 18, 1972. Would it be possible for you to react to it?

“In private conversations with two Emboffs Sept 12, Senator Aquino said that on Sept 7 he had met with Sison and several other members of CPP/ML Central Committee in house in suburban Makati. At meeting, he was presented with proposal to join broad opposition front including part of Liberal Party, CPP/ML, and other radical groups. According to Aquino, this proposition was premature since situation had not yet reached that stage of deterioration which would prompt him to take such a move. He did, however, agree to provide CPP/ML with statement of program and principles on which he invited their comments with view of established basis for possible future cooperation. He did not, however, show Emboffs copy of paper or discuss its contents.”

JMS Answer: It was Julius Fortuna (not me) who met Ninoy Aquino in the house of a big businessman (whose daughter was an activist) and who represented the NDF Preparatory Commission, the CPP and NPA and in effect or in a manner of speaking me. I did not meet Ninoy but it is highly probable that Julius told him that I sent Julius to him. Up to now, I do not understand why Ninoy told Enrile and others that I met him. I could only surmise that it was his way of stressing the importance of the meeting. Indeed, Julius discussed with Ninoy how to make a broad united front more effective against the Marcos regime.

4. I interviewed Rudy Salas and he claims that it was Aquino who introduced you to Dante. Is Salas correct?

JMS Answer: Rudy Salas was not in a position to know the details of my communications with Dante. It was Arthur Garcia who was closely assisting me. Ninoy did not introduce me to Dante.

5.Why did Yap help you arrange the trip to Tarlac? Was this because of a request from Ninoy?

It was Arthur Garcia. It was Rep. Jose V. Yap who at one time helped to arrange my trip to his province. The stories about Ninoy introducing me to Dante revolve around the trip arranged by Yap.

JMS Answer: Not because of a request from Ninoy. But because of a request directly from Dante (Bernabe Buscayno) to Mang Apeng Yap and I agreed through Arthur Garcia. You must understand that Mang Apeng has his own weight in dealing with progressives. He comes from a traditionally Huk town (Victoria, Tarlac) and has relatives who belonged to the old movement.

6. I would just like to know how Arthur Garcia knew Dante. Also, did Aquino provide any material support to the movement? Did he help finance or arm the NPA?

JMS Answer: Dante himself was interested in contacting me and the KM. He was happy when Arthur Garcia made contact with him through some activists in Tarlac. I did not have any direct contact with Ninoy Aquino regarding any material support from him. I can only cite his public statements directly or indirecttly supportive of the people’s resistance to Marcos. I cannot offer to you anyone who might have some direct personal kowledge regarding any material support from Aquino.

7. Salas claims that Aquino helped open up the Isabela region to the NPA via his connection with Faustino Dy. Is this a claim you can confirm?

JMS Answer: At that time Faustino Dy was indeed pro-Ninoy against Marcos. But it was not Ninoy who introduced the NPA to then Cauayan mayor Dy. It was Ka Ruben Tuason, a peasant leader and member of the CPP Central Committee, who introduced the NPA to Dy. Ruben and Dy had been boyhood friends in Tarlac. Prior to the introduction of the NPA to Dy, the CPP had already deployed a team of cadres headed by Ka Eddie Layug to do expansion work initially among the ex-Huks in the NARRA and forest region of Isabela. I had the honor of giving political education to the said team of cadres in Tarlac before it was dispatched to Isabela.

8. In my fieldwork in Hacienda Luisita, residents told me that the hacienda served as a safe haven for NPA troops in the 1970s. Can you confirm this? If it is true, did Aquino play a role in opening up Luisita? JMS Answer: Hacienda Luisita is a big place of several thousands of hectares. It was an area of mass work by the NPA. The peasants and farm workers welcomed the NPA. Ninoy did not have to open the place for the NPA. But certainly it was helpful that Ninoy was not known to be hostile to the NPA. His local loyalists did not run to the military to report the presence of the NPA.###

http://josemariasison.org/on-ninoy-aquinos-relations-with-cpp-npa/

Kahit medyo pinagtatakpan nya si Ninoy e maliwanag na may koneksyon at nakipagtulungan si Ninoy sa kanila para gumawa ng gulo at patalsikin si Marcos. Tandaan nyo nung Plaza Miranda Bombing lahat ng kapartido ni Ninoy nandun lahat siya lang ang di nakadalo dahil paniguradong alam nya na may mangyayaring matinding kaguluhan dun.

 

[geezushaberdash]

Ang recruitment ng mga sibilyan at estudyante sa CPP-NPA ay effect ng martial law hindi ang cause ng declaration ng martial law. 1,000 lang ang estimate ng military na bilang ng mga miembro ng NPA nung 1972 pero nasa 350 lang ang actual number nila. Nagsimulang dumami ang mga miembro ng NPA (o mga civilian at student activist na umanib sa NPA) pagkatapos ideklara ang martial law dahil sa abuses ng military at repression ng freedom sa ilalim ng dictatorship ni Marcos. Maging ang mga rebeldeng Muslim, matagal nang may Muslim insurgency sa Mindanao pero naging organisado at armado lang sila (MNLF at MILF) pagkatapos ideklara ang martial law hindi bago ang martial law. Martial law mismo ang naging pinakamalaking recruiter ng mga rebelde.

 

[rapidox]

Ang sabi ko "inexaggerate lang ni Marcos ang communist threat," hindi walang communist threat sa Pilipinas. 350 lang ang mga miembro ng NPA nung 1972, hindi sapat na bilang para magdeklara ng martial law sa buong bansa. Sa katunayan, lalong dumami ang mga miembro ng NPA nang ideklara niya ang martial law mula sa 350 nung 1972 naging 22,000+ nung 1980s. At kung kelan pa dumami ang mga miembro ng NPA saka ni-lift ni Marcos ang martial law.

conspiracy!

 

[geezushaberdash]

Iisa lang ang layunin ng lahat ng mga rebelde at political opponents ni Marcos nung panahon ng martial law, ang labanan ang diktadurya niya. Nakipagsabwatan xa sa mga komunista dahil iisa lang ang layunin nila pero hindi xa komunista o miembro ng NPA.

 

[kaito89]

Iisa lang ang layunin ng lahat ng mga rebelde at political opponents ni Marcos nung panahon ng martial law, ang labanan ang diktadurya niya. Nakipagsabwatan xa sa mga komunista dahil iisa lang ang layunin nila pero hindi xa komunista o miembro ng NPA.

Bakit may post kayo na di communist at di kasabwat si Ninoy ng mga rebelde? Kahit di siya myembro e malaki parin ang naging parte nya para palakasin at suportahan ang mga rebelde. Aaminin ba nyan na myembro siya syempre hindi masisira pangalan nya. at isa pa di pa man din martial law e kasabwat na si Ninoy ng mga rebelde. Di pa nagdedeclare si Marcos ng Martial Law e nagpaplano na silang pabagsakin si Marcos. Ikaw ba naman magpatira ng libo-libong rebelde sa hacienda luicita anong tawag mo dun? Kung di ka myembro at di ka maka communista e di mo hahayaan yun na mangyari. Mas maraming napaniwala ang mga aquino sa mga bagay na salungat sa katotohanan.

 

[geezushaberdash]

Hindi komunista si Ninoy. Xa mismo ang chief manager ng hacienda luisita at ginawa niya ang lahat para hindi mawala sa kanila ang lupaing un. Hindi ka pwedeng maging komunista kung isa kang bureaucratic landlord. Nakipagsabwatan si Ninoy sa NPA nung panahon ni Marcos dahil meron silang parehong layuning labanan si Marcos, pero hindi sila pareho ng layunin na gawing komunista ang Pilipinas. Presidential emissary to the Supremo si Ninoy nung panahon ni Magsaysay. Xa mismo ang nagsilbing messenger ng gobyerno sa mga komunista kaya matagal na xang may interaksyon sa mga komunista pero hindi nangangahulugang komunista xa.

Nilalabanan na ni Ninoy si Marcos kahit bago pa ang martial law dahil alam na niya lahat ang plano ni Marcos na magdedeklara un ng martial law. Un nga ang "Oplan Saggittarius" na si Ninoy mismo ang nagbunyag.

 

[kaito89]

Hindi komunista si Ninoy. Xa mismo ang chief manager ng hacienda luisita at ginawa niya ang lahat para hindi mawala sa kanila ang lupaing un. Hindi ka pwedeng maging komunista kung isa kang bureaucratic landlord. Nakipagsabwatan si Ninoy sa NPA nung panahon ni Marcos dahil meron silang parehong layuning labanan si Marcos, pero hindi sila pareho ng layunin na gawing komunista ang Pilipinas. Presidential emissary to the Supremo si Ninoy nung panahon ni Magsaysay. Xa mismo ang nagsilbing messenger ng gobyerno sa mga komunista kaya matagal na xang may interaksyon sa mga komunista pero hindi nangangahulugang komunista xa.

Nilalabanan na ni Ninoy si Marcos kahit bago pa ang martial law dahil alam na niya lahat ang plano ni Marcos na magdedeklara un ng martial law. Un nga ang "Oplan Saggittarius" na si Ninoy mismo ang nagbunyag.

So di rin palang pwedeng maging communista si Jose Maria Sison dahil galing din siya sa kilalang angkan sa Ilocos Sur na nagmamayari ng malaking mga lupain? Isa siguro sa dahilan dyan e yung pag push ni Marcos sa Agrarian Reform. Takot silang maipamahagi ang mga lupa nila sa mga magsasaka. Luicita lang yata di nakasama dyan pero maraming lupain ang naipamahagi sa mga magsasaka. Yung tatay ng tito ko isa sa nakinabang dyan. Nabahaginan siya ng malaking lupain na sakahan dahil sa batas na yan.

 

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Ang kaibahan ni Ninoy ay hindi xa pabor sa revolutionary war sa pagitan ng peasants/workers at landlords na xang layunin ng CPP-NPA. Layuning pabagsakin ng CPP-NPA ang (fascist/right wing) dictatorship ni Marcos at palitan ng sarili nilang (communist/left wing) dictatorship samantalang tutol si Ninoy Aquino sa kahit anong form ng dictatorship, mapa left o right man. Tutol ang CPP-NPA sa capitalism at US intervention sa Pilipinas at gusto nilang buwagin ang private ownership sa bansa. Walang problema si Ninoy sa private ownership at US influence sa bansa basta hindi naisasakripisyo ang interest ng marami. Pwersa ang paraan ng CPP-NPA para maisakaturan ang layunin nila habang demokrasya simula't sapul na ang ipinaglalaban ni Ninoy. Marami nang beses sinabi ni Ninoy sa speeches niya na hindi xa communist o miembro ng CPP-NPA. Isa xang democratic socialist (parang si Bernie Sanders na candidate sa Democratic nomination sa US presidential election). Fascist capitalist naman si Marcos. Pabor xang ipamahagi ang lupain at ari-arian ng iba sa ibang tao maliban sa sarili niyang lupain at ari-arian.


Marcos = fascist / extreme right / authoritarian

Ninoy = democratic socialist / center-left / democratic

CPP-NPA = communist / extreme left / authoritarian

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Kung tutuusin kapareho ng political orientation ni Ninoy Aquino si Rodrigo Duterte. Democratic socialism din ang ideology ng PDP-Laban na political party ni Duterte. Pareho silang leftist at kaibigan ng mga komunista pero hindi sila komunista.

 

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Ang importante dyan malaki ang naging parte ni Ninoy at NPA para mapilitang i-push ang martial law para magulo ang gobyerno at mapatalsik si Marcos. Pansariling interest lang ang hangarin nila gaya ng mga gusto nilang isalbang malaking lupain nila at malalaking negosyo na napunta sa gobyerno. Di nila ipinaglaban ang kapakanan ng bayan kundi pansariling kapakanan lang. Yun lang yun. Mali parin makipag deal ang isang kawani ng gobyerno sa mga maka kaliwa para pabagsakin ang sarili niyang gobyerno. Maraming maka demokrasyang paraan di sa paraang marahas at may masasaktan. Karamihan ng pumunta at nakiisa lang naman sa people power e mga rebelde at mga aktibista. Maraming nagagawang pagmamanipula ang mga manunulat at media sa mga tunay na pangyayari. Kung maraming nagagalit sa mga Marcos e bakit ngayon nagdikit sila ng boto ni Leni di ba? Yung mga bumoto kay Leni e dala lang yan ng yumao niyang asawa pero kung hindi tingin nyo ilalaban ba ng LP yan kahit maganda ang records ni Leni? Kung ganun baka sakaling si Bongbong pa nanalo kung di ganun ang sitwasyon.