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Thank GOD merong thread ng mga tulad kong may kristo sa puso... sama ako dito ha brothers and sisters... im a baptist from gcf southmetro....
Thank GOD merong thread ng mga tulad kong may kristo sa puso... sama ako dito ha brothers and sisters... im a baptist from gcf southmetro....
pwede magtanong dito?
Kasi 4 years na kaming nagtitiis ng family ko.
I live in San rafael, Bulacan, and being a rural town, medyo dikit-dikit ang mga bahay sa mga baku-bakuran.
Now, My neighbor who is a cousin of my father has a daughter (married with three kids) who is a pastor of a certain born again group from las Piñas.
About four years ago, she started going back to San rafael and preach the holy book which is okay by us... until she decided to bring loud musical instrruments to their worship services (every sunday during that time, 2pm to 5pm) and we became affected. Sunday is our family's rest day being working weekdays so yun na nga, di na kami makapahinga, but we tolerated that.
After a year, the pastora decided to permanently transfer back to San rafael, and although we live in a residential area (kaya nga residential area ang tawag kasi tirahan ng mga tao) she decided to put up a church/chapel/sambahan sa tabi ng bahay namin. The problem is wala silang kisame, walang maayos na bintana, at walang soundproofing. so masyadong maingay para sa amin ang tambol, electric guitar at yung shouting.
Now I know you do this for the glory of God which I am not against.
ang problema ko is this, and i will illustrate:
Worship services and practice nila are these:
Sunday, 6:30am - little practice and fine-tuning ng musical instruments
Sunday, 7:00am-9:00am - worship service
Sunday, 9:00am-10:00am - tutorial yata sa mga myembro ng pagtugtog, tambol, gitara etc.
Sunday, 10:00am-12:00pm - worship services (second batch)
Sunday, 2:00pm-5:00pm - pagpapatuloy ng pagtuturo ng tambol, gitara, etc sa members
Sunday, 7:00pm-9:00pm -worship services (3rd batch)
Monday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice
Tuesday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice and guitar lessons
Wednesday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice and guitar lessons
Wednesday, 7:00pm-9:00pm - worship services (pang myerkules)
Thursday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice
Friday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice and guitar lessons and singing lessons
Saturday, 2:00pm-6:00pm - 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice, guitar lessons, etc.
Saturday, 7:00pm-9:00pm - Official practice ng choir and members for the worship services for the coming week
I am not exagerating. actually baka kulang pa nga yan kasi at times, sumisingit pa ng tambol sila sa umaga e. at may pagkakataon sa madaling araw, may pagtitipon sila na sumisigaw sila ng parang ganito: abarasikapapapapapapapapapa (parang ganyan)
nakakapinsala na sila sa amin.
Kinausap naman namin sila ng maayos nang una pa man kaso ang katwiran nila para kay Lord daw lahat ginagawa nila so hindi daw mali yun.
I reasoned na I agree na hindi mali kasi they have the right to worship pero paano naman kako yung right ko to be at peace pag nasa bahay namin, at makapahinga sa oras na gusto namin makapahinga.
very stressful ang kabog ng tambol, lalo pag sunday morning kahit gusto mo pa matulog, magigising ka sa tambol at gitara at kantahan.
ang pagitan ng bahay namin sa itinayo nilang chapel is about 4 meters lang so napakaingay talaga.
ang tanong ko sana is this: Meron ba kayong isang Governing Body na pwede ko pagdulugan ng problema ko regarding this?
I have a ten-month old baby na hindi makatulog pag nagsimula na silang mag-ingay e.
I have nothing against what you do, kung sana man lang magpasound-proof sila, kaso when I suggested this, ang katwiran ng pastora is: "gusto daw talaga nila marinig ng lahat ng tao sa paligid ang mensahe ng Panginoon"
Any idea what to do, aside from joining them, because I lost all interests in joining such because of them. Medyo nag-iiba na tuloy ang pagtingin ko sa mga taong "born again" kung tawagin because of this experience.
pwede magtanong dito?
Kasi 4 years na kaming nagtitiis ng family ko.
I live in San rafael, Bulacan, and being a rural town, medyo dikit-dikit ang mga bahay sa mga baku-bakuran.
Now, My neighbor who is a cousin of my father has a daughter (married with three kids) who is a pastor of a certain born again group from las Piñas.
About four years ago, she started going back to San rafael and preach the holy book which is okay by us... until she decided to bring loud musical instrruments to their worship services (every sunday during that time, 2pm to 5pm) and we became affected. Sunday is our family's rest day being working weekdays so yun na nga, di na kami makapahinga, but we tolerated that.
After a year, the pastora decided to permanently transfer back to San rafael, and although we live in a residential area (kaya nga residential area ang tawag kasi tirahan ng mga tao) she decided to put up a church/chapel/sambahan sa tabi ng bahay namin. The problem is wala silang kisame, walang maayos na bintana, at walang soundproofing. so masyadong maingay para sa amin ang tambol, electric guitar at yung shouting.
Now I know you do this for the glory of God which I am not against.
ang problema ko is this, and i will illustrate:
Worship services and practice nila are these:
Sunday, 6:30am - little practice and fine-tuning ng musical instruments
Sunday, 7:00am-9:00am - worship service
Sunday, 9:00am-10:00am - tutorial yata sa mga myembro ng pagtugtog, tambol, gitara etc.
Sunday, 10:00am-12:00pm - worship services (second batch)
Sunday, 2:00pm-5:00pm - pagpapatuloy ng pagtuturo ng tambol, gitara, etc sa members
Sunday, 7:00pm-9:00pm -worship services (3rd batch)
Monday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice
Tuesday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice and guitar lessons
Wednesday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice and guitar lessons
Wednesday, 7:00pm-9:00pm - worship services (pang myerkules)
Thursday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice
Friday, 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice and guitar lessons and singing lessons
Saturday, 2:00pm-6:00pm - 4:00pm-6:00pm - drum playing practice, guitar lessons, etc.
Saturday, 7:00pm-9:00pm - Official practice ng choir and members for the worship services for the coming week
I am not exagerating. actually baka kulang pa nga yan kasi at times, sumisingit pa ng tambol sila sa umaga e. at may pagkakataon sa madaling araw, may pagtitipon sila na sumisigaw sila ng parang ganito: abarasikapapapapapapapapapa (parang ganyan)
nakakapinsala na sila sa amin.
Kinausap naman namin sila ng maayos nang una pa man kaso ang katwiran nila para kay Lord daw lahat ginagawa nila so hindi daw mali yun.
I reasoned na I agree na hindi mali kasi they have the right to worship pero paano naman kako yung right ko to be at peace pag nasa bahay namin, at makapahinga sa oras na gusto namin makapahinga.
very stressful ang kabog ng tambol, lalo pag sunday morning kahit gusto mo pa matulog, magigising ka sa tambol at gitara at kantahan.
ang pagitan ng bahay namin sa itinayo nilang chapel is about 4 meters lang so napakaingay talaga.
ang tanong ko sana is this: Meron ba kayong isang Governing Body na pwede ko pagdulugan ng problema ko regarding this?
I have a ten-month old baby na hindi makatulog pag nagsimula na silang mag-ingay e.
I have nothing against what you do, kung sana man lang magpasound-proof sila, kaso when I suggested this, ang katwiran ng pastora is: "gusto daw talaga nila marinig ng lahat ng tao sa paligid ang mensahe ng Panginoon"
Any idea what to do, aside from joining them, because I lost all interests in joining such because of them. Medyo nag-iiba na tuloy ang pagtingin ko sa mga taong "born again" kung tawagin because of this experience.
salamat po sa mga payo. Matagal na at paulit ulit kaming nkipag usap sa pastora. Pati nanay ko na matanda na ay nakiusap na sa kanila. After ng bawat pkikipag usap, maghihina sila sandali tapos habang tumatagal babalik sa dating ingay. Paliwanag nila pag daw sumapi ang holy spirit di mapipigil ang ingay. As i am replying now via cp, eto nagpapraktis ng tambol ngayon. Ang sakit sa ulo. Jesus Christ Son of the Most High God ang pangalan nila.