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Ang belief ba ay minamana sa magulang o resulta ng sariling experience?
Ano ang masama sa nakikiuso o minamana ang pananampalataya?
Ano ang masama sa nakikiuso o minamana ang pananampalataya?
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Why do you believe what you believe? Minana mo lang ba?
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-para sakin pwedeng maging masama ang dulot kung nakikiuso lang oh minana lang,base on my experience ang pananapalataya ko ay nagmula sa sarili ko,may sarili akong pagiisip at alam ko kung ano ang totoo,tama oh mli,although syempre nagkakamali din nmn ako pero still alam ko kung ano ang ikakabuti
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Belief is different from understanding. One can understand EVIL but not BELIEVE it...
"Belief is different from understanding."
It seems you misunderstood me. My answer was very simple; why do I believe what I believe? So that I may understand. I did not say or even implied that they are the same.
"One can understand EVIL but not BELIEVE it."
Interesting statement though I find it hard to accept. How can such a person not believe in something that he understands? Personally I will consider that person a dunderhead although it simply means he does not truly understand. Please do elaborate what you mean by this statement.
It seems you misunderstood me. My answer was very simple; why do I believe what I believe? So that I may understand. I did not say or even implied that they are the same.
"One can understand EVIL but not BELIEVE it."
Interesting statement though I find it hard to accept. How can such a person not believe in something that he understands? Personally I will consider that person a dunderhead although it simply means he does not truly understand. Please do elaborate what you mean by this statement.
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kung ikaw ay hindi pa nagpapalit ng relihiyon, oo, minana mo ito sa iyong magulang and beyong...
isipin naten, BAKA hindi kristiyano ang karamihan sa pinas kung hindi ito sinakop ng kastila, baka tayo muslim lahat or iba pa...
at nung pinanganak ka, ikaw ay walang relihiyon hangga't hindi ka pa nabibinyagan.
siguro, kung ikaw ay nagkakaisip na at may kakayahang kumilos, pwede mong saliksikin ang iyong belief... tama ba ito o mali, may diyos ba o wala.
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Why do we believe what we believe?
Simple: we human beings who are such impressionable creatures even to the point of gullibility, always look up to figures of authority and consciously or subconsciously pick up their habits. By figures of authority, I mean to include all those who strike us as people worthy of our esteem, respect, and emulation: our older brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, all the way to elders of our immediate community and the whole society at large. Growing up, we usually find ourselves emulating many of the things that comprise their being: their mannerisms, their beliefs and outlooks, their prejudices, biases, their hatred of certain manners or groups of people, etc. Heck, our minds even play dirty tricks on us: we subconsciously pick up negative behaviors that we hate, which ironically consume us in the later stages of our lives.
Historically, two figures of authority have always dominated the minds of people: the priestly classes (shamans, monks, holy persons, sages) and the ruling classes (mighty warriors, powerful persons). Those two usually dictate how people think, even what people should think, and how people should behave among each other. They hold power over peoples and nations either separately or in union, so that we have the divine rulers in some stages of human history. This last phenomenon is usually the time when we could see the most tumultuous periods of our history. For proof, look no further than the Holy Roman Empire era, or the divine monarchies of Japan in relatively modern times. In combination, they form the deadliest of forces in society, able to force people what to believe under threat of the sword (or gun, of course). So we have the bloodiest episodes of conquest and colonization during the imperial periods, which either get people converted by those holy books, but failing that, the almighty persuasive power of the sword takes over
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Given this, all of us will always only have two major trajectories of life: the conformist-conventionalist, who sticks to and abides by the old system of customs and traditions, and the iconoclast-nonconformist, who, at one time or another, catches the disease of questioning the old beliefs and decides to blaze a new trail altogether in life. Of course, there will be those who happen to have a mixture of the two, much like the Brits who are well-known for playing it safe about dismantling old traditions that happened to be successful for them in the past. About this last group, there are those who manage to practice all the faults of their times, while trudging on with the other "newer" parts of their lives.
Now, going back to what started this thread: why do we believe what we believe?
From the given discussion, we believe those parts of belief systems that we just accept as they are and thus have not questioned, but choose another way after removing out those parts that have not passed our questioning, strictly stringent or not. In religion or other aspects of our lives.
Simple: we human beings who are such impressionable creatures even to the point of gullibility, always look up to figures of authority and consciously or subconsciously pick up their habits. By figures of authority, I mean to include all those who strike us as people worthy of our esteem, respect, and emulation: our older brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, all the way to elders of our immediate community and the whole society at large. Growing up, we usually find ourselves emulating many of the things that comprise their being: their mannerisms, their beliefs and outlooks, their prejudices, biases, their hatred of certain manners or groups of people, etc. Heck, our minds even play dirty tricks on us: we subconsciously pick up negative behaviors that we hate, which ironically consume us in the later stages of our lives.
Historically, two figures of authority have always dominated the minds of people: the priestly classes (shamans, monks, holy persons, sages) and the ruling classes (mighty warriors, powerful persons). Those two usually dictate how people think, even what people should think, and how people should behave among each other. They hold power over peoples and nations either separately or in union, so that we have the divine rulers in some stages of human history. This last phenomenon is usually the time when we could see the most tumultuous periods of our history. For proof, look no further than the Holy Roman Empire era, or the divine monarchies of Japan in relatively modern times. In combination, they form the deadliest of forces in society, able to force people what to believe under threat of the sword (or gun, of course). So we have the bloodiest episodes of conquest and colonization during the imperial periods, which either get people converted by those holy books, but failing that, the almighty persuasive power of the sword takes over
.Given this, all of us will always only have two major trajectories of life: the conformist-conventionalist, who sticks to and abides by the old system of customs and traditions, and the iconoclast-nonconformist, who, at one time or another, catches the disease of questioning the old beliefs and decides to blaze a new trail altogether in life. Of course, there will be those who happen to have a mixture of the two, much like the Brits who are well-known for playing it safe about dismantling old traditions that happened to be successful for them in the past. About this last group, there are those who manage to practice all the faults of their times, while trudging on with the other "newer" parts of their lives.
Now, going back to what started this thread: why do we believe what we believe?
From the given discussion, we believe those parts of belief systems that we just accept as they are and thus have not questioned, but choose another way after removing out those parts that have not passed our questioning, strictly stringent or not. In religion or other aspects of our lives.
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Halos lahat sa aspeto ng buhay ng tao ay minana natin, hindi lang religious beliefs, pati knowledge, culture, tradition, morality, norms, law, atbp, lahat minana natin sa mga naunang generation at sa iba't ibang society. Nilikha lahat ng mga yan, at ipinapasa at itinuturo sa bawat generationn para hindi na tayo mangapa sa dilim. Cultural imprinting ang tawag dun. Subukan mong lumikha ng sarili mong language sa halip na gamitin ang mga language na meron ngaun, o ikaw mismo ang tumuklas ng scientific knowledge sa halip na pag-aralan mo na lang ung mga naka-publish na sa mga libro, o gumawa ng sarili mong mga batas para sa bansa mo sa halip na i-adopt mo na lang ang political system ng West, kung magiging madali para sau ang ganun? Ang religion ay parang language lang. Magkakaiba sila ng expression pero pareho lang ang ibig nilang sabihin. Sabi sa Hinduism, lahat ng religion ay magkakaibang daan patungo sa nag-iisang katotohanan.
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Ewan kung nakaligtaan mo lang, pero masyadong static at passive ang version mo ng acquisition of belief/knowledge. Yung tinatawag na deposit/withdraw system. Mas dynamic ang totoong knowledge/belief acquisition kesa sa sistema na yan.
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Pinanganak ako sa Christian Family kaya naging Christian din ako for more than 19 years.
Pero 3 months ago, bigla na lang dumami tanong ko sa sarili ko na mahirap sagutin.
At eto from Christian to Agnostic to Athesit. Hahaha. Ang daming naitulong sakin ng pagiging Atheist.
And hindi din ako natatakot sa afterlife. kahit ano pa man mangyari =)
Pero 3 months ago, bigla na lang dumami tanong ko sa sarili ko na mahirap sagutin.
At eto from Christian to Agnostic to Athesit. Hahaha. Ang daming naitulong sakin ng pagiging Atheist.
And hindi din ako natatakot sa afterlife. kahit ano pa man mangyari =)
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Ang belief ay ipinapasa sa atin ng mga magulang base sa uri ng pinanggalingang environment. Kung ang environment ay Muslim syempre ang paniniwala nila ay nasa Koran. Ang result ng sariling experience ay nakabase pa rin sa setup ng isang environment.
I can't answer your question directly BUT eto lang ang question bakit sila makikiuso?
Yung minamanang pananampalataya ay nakukuha natin mula sa ating magulang nung bata pa tayo.
Parang mahirap ata yun pag nawala na sa'yo ang takot?? You could be careless in anything kasi hindi ka na takot diba??? Isang halimbawa sa magulang mo hindi ka takot eh di gagawin mo na lang ang lahat ng gusto mong gawin wala kang kinikilalang authority eh wala kang takot, so yun po ang aking pananaw about that.
Now going back to the topic... I was born and raised in Catholic faith... Naging Catholic ako nang walang ka malay malay... Unga lang at dede ang alam ko noong bininyagan ako, at habang lumalaki na wala pa rin akong deeper knowledge sa pananampalataya ko, simba lang ako tuwing sunday, ok lang kahit hindi, until such time na nakapanood ako ng isang programa sa TV exposing the truth in the Bible, dun pumasok ang aking curiosity sa religion, and I day may narinig ako dun sa preacher na nakaramdam ako ng takot sa puso ko... Oo nga naman what if dumating ang time na wala na akong pagkakataon, so Then I searched for the truth, at awa ng Dios eto nasumpungan ko naman, Now I am blessed with 3 beautiful kids, hindi sila nabinyagan sa simbahang Katoliko, sinasama ko sila sa aming mga pagkakatipon, now when the right time comes sila na ang bahala magdesisyon sa kanila if anong paniniwala ang gusto nilang sundin basta ako I am doing my job as a parent to them... Sabi nga turuan mo ang bata sa daan na dapat niyang lakaran at pag lumaki man siya hindi niya hihiwalayan... So ang maipapamana ko sa kanila ay ang mabubuting aral ng Dios na aking natutunan sa aking natagpuang pananampalataya... Kung matatanggap nila pag laki eh di salamat sa Dios pero sila pa rin ang magdedesisyon sa sarili nila all I have to do is guide them...
Parang mahirap ata yun pag nawala na sa'yo ang takot?? You could be careless in anything kasi hindi ka na takot diba??? Isang halimbawa sa magulang mo hindi ka takot eh di gagawin mo na lang ang lahat ng gusto mong gawin wala kang kinikilalang authority eh wala kang takot, so yun po ang aking pananaw about that.
Now going back to the topic... I was born and raised in Catholic faith... Naging Catholic ako nang walang ka malay malay... Unga lang at dede ang alam ko noong bininyagan ako, at habang lumalaki na wala pa rin akong deeper knowledge sa pananampalataya ko, simba lang ako tuwing sunday, ok lang kahit hindi, until such time na nakapanood ako ng isang programa sa TV exposing the truth in the Bible, dun pumasok ang aking curiosity sa religion, and I day may narinig ako dun sa preacher na nakaramdam ako ng takot sa puso ko... Oo nga naman what if dumating ang time na wala na akong pagkakataon, so Then I searched for the truth, at awa ng Dios eto nasumpungan ko naman, Now I am blessed with 3 beautiful kids, hindi sila nabinyagan sa simbahang Katoliko, sinasama ko sila sa aming mga pagkakatipon, now when the right time comes sila na ang bahala magdesisyon sa kanila if anong paniniwala ang gusto nilang sundin basta ako I am doing my job as a parent to them... Sabi nga turuan mo ang bata sa daan na dapat niyang lakaran at pag lumaki man siya hindi niya hihiwalayan... So ang maipapamana ko sa kanila ay ang mabubuting aral ng Dios na aking natutunan sa aking natagpuang pananampalataya... Kung matatanggap nila pag laki eh di salamat sa Dios pero sila pa rin ang magdedesisyon sa sarili nila all I have to do is guide them...
mahina pananampataya nito kaya nagkaganto to. tsk tsk tsk
Mahina ba?? Baka mahina talaga aral ng Katolisismo...
Eh di ngaun subukan mo pananampalataya ko... Tingnan natin sino mahina!
Nauto ba o naalis pa pagka ignorantehan sa Biblia??nauto in other words
Ni hindi mo nga matutulan yung natanggap kong pananampalataya after ng pagiging Katoliko ko...
1 Juan 2:19
Kahit na sila’y mga dati nating kasamahan, ang mga taong iyon ay hindi natin tunay na kasama. Sapagkat kung sila’y tunay na atin, nanatili sana silang kasama natin. Ngunit umalis sila, kaya’t maliwanag na silang lahat ay hindi tunay na atin.
huwag ka daw aalis sa catholic church
1 Juan 2:19
Kahit na sila’y mga dati nating kasamahan, ang mga taong iyon ay hindi natin tunay na kasama. Sapagkat kung sila’y tunay na atin, nanatili sana silang kasama natin. Ngunit umalis sila, kaya’t maliwanag na silang lahat ay hindi tunay na atin.
huwag ka daw aalis sa catholic church
hahaha catholic church daw! saang parte dyan ang catholic church??
Ni hindi mo pa nga naibibigay kung saan mababasa ang catholic church sa Bible!
Sige try mo uli!
hahaha catholic church daw! saang parte dyan ang catholic church??
Ni hindi mo pa nga naibibigay kung saan mababasa ang catholic church sa Bible!
Sige try mo uli!
kawawa ka naman, walang kaalam alam sa history
very pround ka pa sa dyan sa INCORPORATED
sabi naman sa bible huwag ka daw aalis,
pero umalis ka
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bumigay kasi sya sa pagsubok sa kanyang pananampalataya.. ayun nauto.. hinuhutuhutan na ng kwarta
pag di ka nagbigay ng kwarta di ka na maliligtas,
buti pa sa katoliko, tuwing misa kahit piso pa ibigay mo sa offering walang magagalit sa yo,
kahit huwag ka ng magbigay, wala pa ring magagalit sa yo
